MAN, I haven't been here in a looooooong time. Hello to Gantry, Sucka and all the others that I posted with months ago!
Anyway, down to business.
I was playing a rare game of RBI 2 last night and it may have given me an answer to a question that came up about RBI 1 once upon a time.
Someone once asked what the dimensions of the RBI field are.
Everyone knows what a wallzie is right? The homer through the wall. Well, it just so happens, that the same "glitch" occurs in RBI 2. However, when you homer in RBI 2, it gives you a distance along with the fireworks. I hit a wallzie with Tony Fernandez down the left field line and it put up a distance of 353 feet. I played a couple of more games for the sole purpose of getting a good look at the dimensions of the field. It looks as though the fields are similar if not the same. Anyway, when that happened, I knew that I had to check in here and tell you guys....and say hello!
On a humorous side note, I was playing against the Angels and they brought in Jim Abbott in relief. The RBI 2 programmers have him as a righty. If I'm not mistaken, Jim Abbott lacked a right hand?!?
Where the hell have you been, jail?
No, dude
I took a new job at a new school. I signed on to teach Science, but am currently teaching 4 Science classes plus I'm the acting High School Principal/Disciplinarian.
Time is of the essence for me at this point. We are in the middle of semester exams, so I'm taking advantage of a bit of "free time"
The worst thing is that I had a sweet Internet connection at my old school, so I could download ROM's and MP3's, but here I have neither the time or capability, which means, no RBI at school :'(
Welcome back ed, good to see you're still alive! Jobs and keeping the kids educated takes precedence over RBI, so we completely understand. So you came on to teach science and are now the principal?
On the RBI note, how would you compare the sizes of the RBI field to RBI2? Give us your wallzie estimate for the original RBI...
I've seen the same thing in RBI 2/3, but I couldn't remember what exactly the distance was. I think the centerfield fence is about 405, but you can't do wallsies with that, so I'm not positive.
BTW, what's the longest HR you've managed in those games? From my experience, 476 is the max; I've done it a few times with Ryno (he's a powerhouse in RBI 3, and I use the Cubs most often) and once or twice with other players.
Comparing the sizes of the fields was completely visual. Down the line, the fields appear to be almost identical. The power alleys are questionable. The field does not appear to have changed from RBI 1 to RBI 2. There are a couple of (umpire placement, being able to see 3rd base and the left field wall in the same screen, that made it look like the same field. The game play is not the same (less homers/power + shorter homers) which make the RBI 2 field SEEM larger, but after playing games specifically looking at the dimensions, they seemed very similar, if not the same! I suppose it's still a judgement call, but it's the best answer I've come up with
btw...good to be back, Gantry. I'm insanely busy, but it's mostly fun. How have things been going for you? Looks like things are lively here + lots of new frequent posters! That's great!
They should really teach about RBI in school.
I agree. ED, you should use your influence as teacher/disciplinarian to teach RBI to all. Start them early. It may never end.
You guys will love this:
1st week back from Christmas Break, we do a week called J-Term. We offer mini-courses that don't necessarily apply to a typical school day.
One of my classes is a Nintend - O - Lympics. I will have 5 TV's set up playing, Tecmo Super Bowl (NES), NFL Blitz (64), NBA Live 95 (Sega), Mario Kart (64), and OF COURSE RBI Baseball (NES)
We will have daily tournaments to see who reigns supreme in our school! I specifically set up the class with an odd number of people, so I'd be "forced" to enter the tournament ;)
Why couldn't I have gone to that school?
That's truly ED, you are a fine testament to the American education system. RBI in the classroom, perhaps I should start some non-profit organization to promote it. Get some lobbying muscle behind it...
So would you say about 353 down the lines in RBI1? Would make a good FAQ question...
Are there any spots open in your school?
I can't imagine being the principal. Then again, if you give them RBI, they'll love you.
Mr. Clark, I mean EDavis, would you say that you're the HNIC?
"They used to call me Crazy Joe, now they can call me batman!"
I'm giving 353 as my best guess with as much "research" as can be done on the subject (by me anyway) Feel free to put it in the FAQ. I don't know if there will ever be any sure way to know. I would feel 95% confident that the fields are similar enough that 353 is a good estimate
vgp...that's a great quote! I'd have to say that I'm the HHIC....
Head Honky In Charge
Have you guys heard about Petco Park in San Diego? 396 to dead center. Klesko will be in hog heaven.
Wrigley field is considered a hitters park (at least when the wind isn't blowing in) and is 353 and 355 down the lines. The foul lines distances generally don't determine a hitters park. Usually look at the alleys (wrigley is only around 370 to the power alleys) to determine if a park is hitters or not.
In my opinion RBI fits with the cookie cutter stadiums of the 70's like riverfront something lke 335 on the lines 375 alleys 400 to center, though maybe the games are in Colorado causing the balll to carry :)
I seem to recall someone comparing the OF fence to the distance between the bases in RBI and finding that it was something ridiculously low, like 225. Anybody else remember that? I'll do some checking on the forum archives and see if I can find it.
That would make sense because it doesn't take an outfielder much longer to traverse the entire vertical portion of his territory that it does for an average runner to get from 1st to 2nd. I think we need to be prepared for the fact that those Wacky Tengen Programmers may have been a little illogical in their construction of the RBI field, preferring something that looked like a baseball diamond to something that actually represented it.
I found it (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=624)! Check the third post in the thread, by "beanball". He's noticed that it's less than 3 basepath distances from home to the LF wall, and he estimated it was about 230. I don't know that I'd go that low, but I'll have to do some research, and by "do some research" I mean "play some RBI".
Again, I say think about RBI in comparison to other baseball games. For instance the original Baseball on NES has an out field distance not much greater than 1.5 times the basepaths and the RBI field isn't much bigger than that. On the other end of the spectrum think of modern games which never even show half the field at once and we know have realistic dimensions. I think the comparisons would say that RBI has a short field.
I agree with what you guys are saying that the stadium is small and a band box at that, but when calculating the distance, you have to take into account the perspective that you have looking at the field. probably from a "view" section or whatever the equivelent in your home MLB park.
since we're looking at it from an angle, then the distances from the basepaths are going to be different farther down the line because they're farther away. i hope that makes sense.
I can't stress how damn important this topic is :), but also RBI and RBI2 have different stadiums, look at the grandstands, nowhere near the same, unless we want to assume remodeling of the stadiums.
what do you guys think, is it the same stadium even? (I don't care what they're called, just notice the way they look)
I agree.....I think RBI 2 is not played on the beautiful "Tegen field"...But much like the rest of the game is a poor look a like field.
And I feel that the supposed "long home runs" in RBI are really a result of unbelievable hitting displayed by the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond...
Well, I guess I stand corrected--sort of. Isn't Wrigley based on wind? Blows out when it's easy to jack one over the fence and blows in when it's a pitcher's park? It is in the "windy city," after all.
I think if you took the wind factor out of Wrigley, it wouldn't be a crackerbox of a stadium...but you are right, it also has to do with the power alleys.
bump.... here's my tidbit relating to discussion today that is posted above:
"I agree with what you guys are saying that the stadium is small and a band box at that, but when calculating the distance, you have to take into account the perspective that you have looking at the field. probably from a "view" section or whatever the equivelent in your home MLB park.
since we're looking at it from an angle, then the distances from the basepaths are going to be different farther down the line because they're farther away. i hope that makes sense."
perfect sense TBG!
Those homers in RBI that go through the wall....I wonder if that's a bug or the programmers purposely did that. It's cool, nonetheless. Those have to be about 210-220 feet if those dimensions are what they're said to be.
I just realized something too. The bats in RBI are aluminum, not wooden. Geez, took me that long to figure it out!
I'd love to see the RBI guys hit in the RBI 2 or 3 stadiums.
500-foot homers are very possible in RBI 2 & 3. but it's mostly because of the bench-substitute trick.
The farthest homer I've hit in RBI 3 without doing that was 496 feet by Darryl Strawberry of the 1990 National League All-Stars.
My farthest by using the trick was 512 by Jannetty of the Tengen Team.
Quote from: fknmclane on 12/17/03, 06:06:29 PM
Have you guys heard about Petco Park in San Diego? 396 to dead center. Klesko will be in hog heaven.
Cute.
Definitely a solid prediction on my part.