Well after three years of near daily RBI, it finally happened today. I was the RedSox, playing my roommate JRob, he was the Mets. Gooden pitching to Bruce Hurst... he ripped one right down the line that didn't arc at all. It went through the wall at the foul pole (about 3/4 of the way up the wall) for the first pitcher homerun I have ever seen. JRob was so demoralized I ended up hitting 10 homeruns against him and cruised to an easy win. I know its been discussed before, but how many other people out there have actually hit a HR with a pitcher?
Lies.
I swear on Donnie Moore's grave that I, RockRaines4life, hit a homerun on December 19, 2003 with Bruce Hurst against Doc Gooden. It was one of the greatest moments of my life.
Never done it. Hurst has some pop. The pitcher HR is the white whale of RBI.
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I hate to go around calling people liars.
But you're a liar!
Just kidding--I hope it's true. It gives hope to all of us.
no not possible. Reggie Jackson will go back to the Hall of Fame and change his yankees cap in for a A's cap before a pitcher hiots a homerun in RBI
Hey, I understand everyone might not believe its true, because it is so rare. But this homerun took place in the playoffs of our third season, each season being 27 games for each team. That means we have played over 400 games of RBI in the last two years. This is the first time I have ever witnessed a pitcher HR, in probably about 1000 games of RBI in my life. I should also mention that we always throw straight down the middle to opposing pitchers, in an effort to eventually see what we witnessed this afternoon. I hope my history as a poster here gives me some credibility.
I believe that it can happen even though I've never seen it and also have played in the 1000 game range. It is funny that this topic got so much response so fast.
Lies.
Because we pitch down the middle to pitchers we have had some close calls before. Viola hit one that bounced off the base of the wall once, but the computer chose not to make it a wallzie for some reason. I wish I had somehow been recording the game when it happened.
No offense Rock, but this is the kind of thing we have to see to believe. That being said, I'm curious if the pitch you hit was a fastball or a regular pitch or blooj. Gooden's got some heat, so maybe the velocity of the pitch effects how far it is hit?
It was a regular pitch... we always give the opposing pitcher a regular pitch down the middle of the plate. I understand that you might not believe me, but I don't have a system set up to record RBI so you'll just have to take my word for it or remain skeptical of the fact that pitchers can indeed hit wallzies. Hopefully it can happen for everyone at some point during their RBI careers. I suggest instituting our down the middle rule to pitchers. It took us two years of down the middle pitches but we finally got it.
Quote from: RockRaines4life on 12/19/03, 02:45:14 PM
It was a regular pitch... we always give the opposing pitcher a regular pitch down the middle of the plate. I understand that you might not believe me, but I don't have a system set up to record RBI so you'll just have to take my word for it or remain skeptical of the fact that pitchers can indeed hit wallzies. Hopefully it can happen for everyone at some point during their RBI careers. I suggest instituting our down the middle rule to pitchers. It took us two years of down the middle pitches but we finally got it.
Lies....i'm watching you rock. careful.
Hang on. We have discussed this many times. We have established that pitchers can hit walzies like you just discribed. I myself have bombed a walzie with B. Saberhagen off Uncle Jesse Orosco. That can be done but is rare. No one has ever hit a legit over the fence shot with a pitcher though. I will also echo that this is probably the touchiest subject in all of Dee-Nee land.
I think Dove has it right on. The HR was a wallzie, as I said, about 3/4 of the way up the wall and right down the line. I don't know that an over the fence HR by a pitcher is impossible but I have certainly never witnessed it. How rare are pitcher wallzies?
That pitcher walzie that I hit was the only one I have ever seen. I have no clue how many games I have played but certainly more than 500. Maybe if someone has a better estimate of how many games they have played we could guess the average ab's per games for pitchers and come up with a ratio. Just from previous conversations a few of us have witnessed/performed a pitcher walzie, but no one has ever reported hitting an over the wall blast. I once thought I saw one but my buddy reminded me that I was drunk and it was just a walzie.
I've never seen a pitcher wallzie. I think it's bullshit.
Quote from: dvldog on 12/19/03, 03:26:12 PM
Is there some way to post a picture of it or an animation - to prove it?
Impossible. How would we know that it wasn't a ROM where someone jacked up the pitcher's hitting stats?
As far as my HR today goes, I don't have anything hooked up to my TV to record NES... but maybe a video capture of a pitcher wallzie exists somewhere.
Quote from: vgp100 on 12/19/03, 03:14:03 PM
I've never seen a pitcher wallzie. I think it's bullshit.
quoted for truth...it looks as if we have two dividing camps.
I think these pitcher wallzie stories are a bit of wishful thinking. Maybe everyone wants it to be true so much that they really believe.
As George Costanza said: It isn't a lie if you believe it.
Well I suppose that I could use my camcorder to record every game of RBI that I play from here on out. I think there is enough claims from truthful men (such as myself) to substantiate the pitcher walzie... we can definatively say that no pitcher over the wall homerun has ever take place right?
Quote from: Glassjoe on 12/19/03, 05:17:04 PM
I consider a wallzie to be legit.
I consider a bodyblow follwed by an uppercut legit.
A walzie is a piece of shit. If anyone hits a walzie against me I want to throw my controller with dead-eye accuracy directly at the reset button. Especially if it is a game winner. Then I'm probably swinging an empty bottle at somebody/thing.
It's a part of the game...settle down. :)
I agree, a wallzie is one of those things in RBI that makes the game what it is. One thing I like doing os calling the wallzie before the liner gets to the outfield because you can usually tell if it going to be one.
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Because I just gave you a case of Belles Wallzie
(I don't know what that means though)
Wallzies are legit. They're part of the game. Plain and simple.
While never actually pulling it off myself and probably playing over 1000 RBI games, I do believe The Rock. But this is definitely the touchiest of all subjects here in dee-nee land. It's like (and to continue the Seinfeld references by VGP) Mickey telling Kramer that communism is a sensitive issue.
Dammit, I thought I was cool cause i hit a bomb with Ozzie Smith tonite but I guess I'vee been outdone. Anyway, congrats to anyone who hits one out w/ a pitcher.
Congrats Rock, I am still desperately awaiting my pitcher dinger. The Dee-Nee house will go nuts when that happens, especially if Lipitz hits it. We have a rule that anyone giving up a pitcher homer has to retire from RBI...
I don't like to aceept there's something in RBI I haven't done, but I've been able to acknowledge the pitcher dinger. Still doesn't make it right though...
Since we use your drinking game rules we also abided by the rule that giving up a HR to the pitcher means retirement. I had to grant amnesty to my roommate though, because having him not play anymore would drastically cut down on my RBI time.
I hit an homer with Boggs today and he pitched a couple of times. Does that count?
Yeah, the retirement rule would probably get cut back on appeal. Maybe a 6-month ban or something...
Or it could just be changed to the 1000 drink HR. I could go for that, then I'd be more anxious to give one up than to hit another myself.
Quote from: Gantry on 12/21/03, 11:24:29 AM
Yeah, the retirement rule would probably get cut back on appeal. Maybe a 6-month ban or something...
I would think an alternate punishment would be in order. Maybe a beer buying penalty, or order bitch (guy that always had to get the door when the food comes). We used to play Half Life & the person with the lowest score when the food arrived had to pick it up. The person with the second lowest score had to get the drinks.
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I think lifetime ban is pretty tough. I too would be fucked as far as RBI time went.
Look. As much as it sucks to give up a pitcher dong, it is cruel and unusual punishment to be banned for life. That is a hyperbolistic sentence meant to bring levity to such a demoralizing situation. Now if you gave up an over the wall to the pitcher. You should shut down permanently.
The banned for life rule initially started because we really didn't think the pitcher dinger was possible. I like some sort of beer bitch rule or 6-months with no Dt/Ca/Bo, something like that...
I'd say a St louis only rule would be good.
In my days as a young lad, I heard many stories of myths and legends. There were huge lies told to millions of children such as Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.....Only to have my dreams crushed as a I realized there men and creatures were little more than deceptions used by parents and other adults as a way of keeping children in line...
Even as I grew older and just slightly wiser there were and essentially are tall tales, such as the Sasquatch or abominable snowman, even the Loch Ness Monster. These are diffreent types of illusions....these are the types of illusions that really serve no one any real purpose...peole just love to believe them. These serve no historical relevance...and really only serve the minds of crackpots and idiots....for anyone with a stable mond and a little common sense would easily see that none of these can be true....
In nearly everyone's life on a daily basis tales of fantasy reign in on decisions thatmust be made....religious orthodoxy, fish stories, and pure hogwash influence major life events world wide constantly...It seems the world likes to follow works of mytholiogical fiction rather than just thinking on their own...
But not all of these are total lies...many of these parabolic superstitions are little more than historical fact that over time has been horribly misrepresented....Now....After all of this rambling, I suppose I should get to my point....thank you for taking the time to read this far...
With something so pure as RBI Baseball why should we allow untruths and facts surface with all of the legendary things that have occured...and will occur in the future of this game...Let us not fall prey to silly stories, and use our own intuitions and knowledge on this touchy subject of fabrication....I think if we all look deep down in our hearts...and remember how many games many of us have played.....we all know the truth....a non-all star pitcher...hitting a wallzie?
Well, yes Virginia, there is a Santa Clause....but you know what......
THERES NO FUCKING WAY THIS EVER HAPPENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Truly that was a great post. But I have said it before and will say it again. Under no Dee-Nee inquisition will I ever recant the fact that I have hit a walzie with Brett Saberhagen. I will take it to my grave. I will freaking swear a lifetime of beer drinking on it.
I'm sure this won't be a popular response, but I find your disparaging comment of religious orthodoxy, i.e., soundness of religious faith, to be insulting. :-\
I think you may have missed the point....but I stand with my entire statement the way it is written....
what is the point?
That there is no possible way that a non all star pitcher hit a homer....I thought that much was clear...
GoReds, if you're saying it's possible to hit a homer with an all-star pitcher than you're also saying in a bass ackwards way that it's possible to hit a homer with a non-all-star pitcher. Little help here? I'm almost certain they all have the same hitter rankings (power, contact.)
I think it's possible to hit a homer with a pitcher. I've come dangerously close MANY times. Everything must go right for it to happen. The planets must be aligned and the moon must be in the right spot or some shit.
But damnit, if we have TWO dee-nee members, both respected and not total morons, who say they have seen it with their own eyes then I have to believe them.
I don't get why everybody is so hard up about this issue. It really is like freaking powderkeg. I do not believe that a pitcher over the wall homer is possible by anyone, all-star or not, but if it happened I would believe it. As for walzies, I believe any pitcher can do it cause I've seen one.
Still contemplating the pitcher homerun, I was looking through the dee-nee archives and found that there are at least 3 (maybe more) old threads dealing with this controversy. I guess it just won't die. Thought I'd like to this one since it actually contains my very own first few posts. Dammit, I was drunk then too.
http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=575;start=msg6069#msg6069
Dove, thanks for posting that post. That sentence makes no sense. Did you really win a game with a grand slam pitcher wallzie? I think I would freely retire if I gave that baby up. Wow.
Yes I did. I was drunk at the time and didn't realize it was a walzie, but the other facts are true.
Its sweet you hit one out but for it to count, it must not be in the wall type homer - over fence would be tight and I have never seen it either!
H-bomb,
That is the point of all this posting. I will bring you up to speed.
We have established that no one has yet (and we theorize cannot) hit an over the wall homer with ANY pitcher. Several of us have hit or witnessed through the wall homers (walzie) with pitchers. Some do not believe those claims but it happens. This is probably one of our most hotly contested topics.
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The pitcher homer is the powder keg of all dee nee subjects. You touch it and kaboom.
In all of my years of RBI, I have yet to see a pitcher home run.
Quote from: japetus462 on 01/05/04, 02:07:54 AM
In all of my years of RBI, I have yet to see a pitcher home run.
Thank you. Pitcher home runs are totally bullshit. Its a myth...just like the freaking lock-ness.
>:( I just wish I could understand why so many people are in total denial about this.
Bobby Ojeda hit an HR for me, hooked down the line wouldve hit the fair pole. We have been playing RBI since at least 1988 and just sat there in stunned silence. We thought nothing could top a 21-inning NYM-STL game but it did. You cant make this shite up
Thank you, worst leadoff hitter in the game (well, he's up there.)
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Doc Gooden hit one for me back in the 80's.
My 7 year old claims he hit a HR with Sutcliffe recently. He did not understand the rarity of a pitcher HR, but when he described the HR to me he certainly describe a walzie, so I believe it happened. It was on the arcade version with the Cubs.
Wow, you should get that kid an agent ASAP
Bravo, young ult