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General => RBI Baseball => Topic started by: OctoFranco on 07/03/06, 06:54:38 PM

Poll
Question: How do you bunt?
Option 1: Traditional squaring with bat straight out votes: 2
Option 2: Squared with bat at angle votes: 3
Option 3: Stutter-swing (see below) votes: 0
Option 4: I don't bunt.  It's a matter of principle. votes: 0
Option 5: I have accidentally laid down a bunt with Tony Armas WITH pinch hit bonus on multiple occasions votes: 1
Title: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: OctoFranco on 07/03/06, 06:54:38 PM
After reading in another thread that a notable Dee-Nee'er intentionally struck out with his pitcher in a non-bases-loaded situation, I am making this thread to make sure such a mistake is never made again.

Allow me to introduce the stutter-swing.  Now I'm sure there are already those in the Dee-Nee community who have already figured this out, but I have yet to see it mentioned.

The stutter-swing involves swinging the bat like you normally would at a pitch, but then rapidly releasing, then re-depressing the A button mid-swing.  This has the effect of a bunt when the ball meets the bat, and if you do it fast enough, there will have been no visual indication that the swing was temporarily stopped.  We have all at least seen this happen accidentally on a fucked up check-swing.

Anyway, this strategy is advantageous for numerous reasons.  1) I am convinced it results in fewer pop-ups and foul balls than just squaring to the plate with the bat motionless and hanging out.  2) Your opponent does not realize it's a bunt until the ball has been put into play, giving your runners a better chance.  And 3) (and in my opinion the most important advantage) IT ALLOWS YOU TO CONTROL WHICH BASELINE YOU HIT THE BALL DOWN.  This is CRUCIAL in a situation where you have runners on first and second with less than two out and the pitcher at bat.  Bunting the ball down the third base line will almost always result in a force out being made at third.  But bunting the ball down the first base line (combined with making sure at least the guy on second has a running start, i.e. is stealing) a successful sac bunt can be accomplished almost all the time.

This should be a puhl.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 06:57:21 PM
I know this is coming EVERY TIME yet I think I've only been able to get the lead runner 5% of the time.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 08:37:10 PM
I require video of said stutter-swing.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 09:12:25 PM
I was thinking of finding some video of Octo and I playing RBI to send to TBT, I'll probably end of grabbing it tonight and sending out a copy.

It really is brilliant.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: TbT on 07/03/06, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 07/03/06, 09:12:25 PM
I was thinking of finding some video of Octo and I playing RBI to send to TBT, I'll probably end of grabbing it tonight and sending out a copy.

It really is brilliant.

thanks, id like that.

also if you happen to have an documentation of who is who in the games, that would be helpful as well.  if you dont have my addy pm me.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 09:16:38 PM
Sadly enough, I'll probably go through and figure out who's who.

I tend to be the classy one who runs out his home runs, whereas Octo tends to show up the pitcher by sitting at first and watching the home run.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: TbT on 07/03/06, 09:23:44 PM
ha.  ive never done that.  thats something special i'll save just for nate.  he'll be so pleased to know my batter is admiring the homerun.

we do a lot of crap to each other just cause were friends that we wouldnt do while playing people we dont know.  crimany, feel free to requote that one.

anyways, lots of shit talking, taunts, and things like that.  i'll break it out next time.

Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 09:56:04 PM
Any chance I can get a copy of this video, too?
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 09:58:05 PM
Zero.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 09:59:19 PM
Quote from: TBT on 07/03/06, 09:23:44 PM
ha.  ive never done that.  thats something special i'll save just for nate.  he'll be so pleased to know my batter is admiring the homerun.

we do a lot of crap to each other just cause were friends that we wouldnt do while playing people we dont know.  crimany, feel free to requote that one.

anyways, lots of shit talking, taunts, and things like that.  i'll break it out next time.

I doubt that Octo even knew I took notice to the admiring of the home run before he read my post.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 10:02:01 PM
Alright--TBT can I see the vid after you see it?  Bastards all around me...
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 10:05:00 PM
I live the most exciting life ever.

After swinging by my mom's house to pick up the video, I grabbed five unmarked videos.

The first three were boring home movies, the fourth was a bootleg copy of Slap Shot, and just when I was down to little hope, boom, at least a three hour tape of RBI.

Another note, I tend to be the team that starts with a reliever.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 10:05:34 PM
For the record, I bunt square with the bat straight out, but I move the batter in/out of the box depending on which way I wish to direct the baseball...
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 10:15:20 PM
Watching the first four innings of a Detroit/Cali game, I've noticed a few quirks.

Octo: Always running his fielder as close to first as possible before making the throw on ground balls.

Me: I typically cut off throws from third to first with my pitcher if it's a slow runner, I usually run my guys back to the dugout after the third out. I also hit BOMBS with Bill Madlock.

Both: We both get the ball out of our gloves really quickly after a fly out, and turn an imaginary two with a slow runner and a groundball to a middle infielder.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 10:19:05 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 07/03/06, 10:15:20 PM
Both: We both get the ball out of our gloves really quickly after a fly out, and turn an imaginary two with a slow runner and a groundball to a middle infielder.

Brothers McCormick do this on every single ground ball...
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: TbT on 07/03/06, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/03/06, 10:02:01 PM
Alright--TBT can I see the vid after you see it?  Bastards all around me...

yeah i'll get em out right after the tecmo tapes come your way.

actually i have some items i was gonna give you at the cotut, that i need to mail.  the deodorant stone, some size XL shit stained undies, and something else.  i'll see about getting that packaged up tomorro.

did i spell tomorro right?
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Attezz on 07/03/06, 10:38:54 PM
Awful two first games by me, awful base running, some terrible defense (you can tell my "A" button was sticking quite a bit).

Second game I was ten run ruled.

I'm interested to see how this series ends up, I know for a fact there are at least two good NY/MN series on this tape.
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: TbT on 07/03/06, 10:46:10 PM
i can assume this is 1 sp games?
Title: Re: Bunting with a stutter-swing
Post by: Stock on 07/04/06, 01:37:40 AM
I almost always bunt with my bat pointing at the opposite power alley wall.  I never try to bunt for a hit, and this seems to be almost full proof when sacrificing.
SP

Another trick I like to do in str8 pitch.
With a righty pitcher, like to stand as close as I can to the plate and then hit the ball up the first base line.  If done correctly it will appear like a perfectly placed bunt up the first base line, that only the pitcher will have a chance at since the 1B will be covering.

Or my favorite thing to do to a human opponent will happen (if it is hit too hard)...
It is hit right at the 2nd baseman, but he will be on his way to cover 1st, and the 1st baseman has no chance.
Nothing is better than getting a hit with a pitcher against a human opponent.