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Title: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: The_X_man on 03/01/02, 05:21:18 AM
I had an inside the park homerun against the computer with bruce hurst last night, and it made me wonder if anyone has ever hit one out with a pitcher.  I don't recall ever doing it in the early days of my RBI career.

Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/01/02, 09:21:39 AM
The_X_Man has arrived after numerous password delays, good to have you...

From the FAQ http://dee-nee.com/rbi/faq.shtml#PITCHERHR

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Is it possible to hit a home run with the pitcher?

Apparently, it is. I have received a couple emails and read bulletin board messages confirming the pitcher homer. In every case I've read, the ball is lined down the left/right field line and goes through the top of the wall. Most of these cases involved all-star pitchers (twice by Sutcliffe, once with Righetti), though I doubt they are any more powerful than regular pitchers. That being said, nobody I know personally has ever hit a homer with the pitcher.

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I have recieved a few emails on this subject (probably more since the faq), but I would like to hear other people's RBI stories.  Perhaps I think too highly of myself, but I sill have  a hard time accepting this is possible given all the years/games we've played.  I know these people aren't lying, but I want my own pitcher homer dammit...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: GPines on 03/01/02, 01:27:41 PM
I have never had or seen one, I would love to see it some time, I dont' know if I beleive it.

...I think I would have a better chance of seeing the Loch Ness Monster or that damn sascuatch. But I will keep trying.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Dill on 03/01/02, 09:26:13 PM
I have never even heard of anyone ever hitting a homer with a pitcher.  Personally, I don't think it is possible.  Like Gantry, I have played thousands of games and it hasn't happened yet.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Stuart on 03/01/02, 09:26:56 PM
Dill and I have noticed that Nolan and the Rocket have the most pop.  Nolan has come very close a few times.  They always seem to make decent contact at least.  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/02/02, 03:28:47 PM
while it is very possible to hit an inside the park dinger against the computer,(who field groundballs like they are playing death) until i see it done with my own eyes or someone with credibility attests to seeing it done i am also of the opinion that it is impossible.  if it did happen, it would have to be the one that goes through the fence at the foul pole.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/05/02, 04:49:55 AM
It's strange that none of the hardcore players here have hit a dinger, but I still have to believe that all those people weren't lying...

One thing I noticed over the weekend is that right-handed pitchers hit balls much further when a lefty is on the mound.  Perhaps that is the key - lefty pitcher on the mound and a righty pitcher at the plate...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/05/02, 11:25:03 AM
that might be the secret   yet is is odd that you guys and us out here have been playing forever and have yet to witness it... still doesnt mean its impossible   just rbi folk lore.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Lips on 03/05/02, 03:15:26 PM
Gantry, I sort of have the same opinion as you do about the pitcher stroke.  I've always thought a pitcher had a better chance to homer if he got pitched to inside.  The inside pitch to the pitcher so rarely happens when we play, but when it does I've always noticed more stroke...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/05/02, 03:24:50 PM
Perhaps it's time to take one for the team and start throwing some inside.  Of course the retirement rule would have to be eliminated, but I'm game...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/05/02, 04:13:22 PM
yeah... i would think that we should do a case study and throw puss inside pitches to the pitchers to see if they get lucky and hit one through the wall.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Burnzky on 03/05/02, 06:27:56 PM


   I also have never seen a pitcher hit one in the stands, but when we play the only person who ever takes a decent swing with the pitcher is the computer.  But i have seen them get close to making it over.  I guess its just one of those rbi mysteries that makes the game still fun  to play after 15 years.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/05/02, 06:39:00 PM
fifteen years huh burnzky... remind us how old you are?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: GPines on 03/05/02, 06:42:22 PM
what is that Dog years Burnzky?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/05/02, 06:44:51 PM
he must have started in the womb.   hey greg what do you think about the case study to see if we can get a pitcher to hit a homerun?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/12/02, 04:43:35 PM
I was firing to Lipitz inside last time we played and he was defintiely hitting them higher and further, though none were near homer level.  I think I'm gonna have to break out the big stick with Donnie Sutton and get somebody retired!!

The pitcher homer will happen for us.  Oh yes, it will happen...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/12/02, 06:22:26 PM
a positve attitude is the beginning...   i havent had a chance to begin the case study yet for i have no competition at the moment.  once he returns, we will test the hypothesis.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Lips on 03/13/02, 12:45:47 PM
Let me throw this out there too...

I just don't think the pitcher hit will happen, UNLESS it's inside (like we have already said), AND the pitch is a fastball.  That adds a whole lot of distance to the hit.  The thing is...so rarely does a pitcher get a fastball thrown his way.  It just doesn't happen.  Maybe against the computer opponent, though.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 01:44:12 PM
so you think it has to be an inside fastball if the pitcher is going to hit one out.  that sounds like a theory that needs to  be tested out.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 01:54:19 PM
I am new to this site, but god almighty, it is the greatest thing I have e're seen....quite possibly the most professional and, dammit ill say it, vital webiste around....me and my roomate todd have played almost everyday for the last year...most of the time 2 or 3 seven game series....all resulting in some sort of argument/celebration....but i thank you guys for putting this together...

anyhoo....i have once, and only once, hit a homer with a pitcher...it was wille hernandez of the detriot tigers...it was right down the line and through the wall....qutie cheap...but a homer nonetheless....and speaking of monumental homers, me and todd have a rule that if anyone hits a homer with ozzie smith, the other has to buy him a cd....thank you again for this site...ill write often...Bban
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 01:56:52 PM
i know that if a homer does occur with the pitcher, it will be of the variety that bban just described.  those phantom homers that go through the wall.    i like the cd idea...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/13/02, 03:28:30 PM
Welcome bban, you sport a solid resume...

Every person who wrote about the pitcher home has described just like you, though this is first I've heard of Guillermo going yard.  Do you remember who was pitching?

We've just started up a set of death tonight, I'll be sure to fire some inside heaters to Lips, assuming he beats Potsie...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 03:44:55 PM
relievers might have more of a chance than the guy who starts the game... maybe that has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 03:46:09 PM
thanks sir....it is an honor...

i believe at the time i was playing against the AL allstar team and tom henke was on the mound....or as we called him "henke-panky"...he can bring the heat, but has no action...even more amazing that willie "the next donnie moore" hit his homer during an "any pitch" match....it was by far the most amazing thing ive seen on the game....that is except for the time just two days ago when, once again in real pitching game play, todd worrell of the angels let up 6, count them, 6 consecutive homeruns to the detroit tigers...starting with Kirk Gibsons 3 run shot and ending with tom brookens, my personal hero and style mentor....that was probably my shining moment, for my roomate t was just getting back into it and the wheels fell off....i nominate, however this may not be prevelant here, these next pitchers as the biggest game blowers out there....aka the rod beck all star pen

1) Scotty Grelts...the guy has no action and throws it so had that spike owen can and has taken him deep

2) Donnie Moore.....dave hendersons homer in 86 was just the beginning....he has (no pun intended) never recovered...he just cant keep a lead

3) Worrell---the aforementioned atrocity is the prime example....the guy pretty much sucks...

4)  Jesse Orosco vs the Red Sox....once again, 86 is the start of something....the sox know that orosco shut them down to win the series....and ever since, everytime T brings in this sidearmed hack....he loses the game

(to be fair to all above pitchers, they have all fallen victim to having todd as their manager....the guy has fallen in love with spilman and lindeman...ill give him that....but he has many flaws....(sorry for going on and on, but i am more than enthusiastic about this game)

1) when he talks shit, almost before the sentence is done, something bad will happen to his team

2) he will consistently allow his pride to get the best of him....he will trot his pitcher out in the 7th knowing fully he is going to piss away the game, but insists he can go the distance.....this has been the cause of many a blowout

3) he throws the ball on the outside corner to wally joyner...and meat is hands down the best outside hitter in the game....throw it there and it will be a basehit to right or a homerun....nearly everytime

ill end it there..bban
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 03:59:14 PM
wow bban... guess you know your stuff... where do you and todd contest your matches... as far as garelts... he is the only pitcher on frisco that i like...   he seems to get the job done for me.  worrell,  rarely have to use him cause tudor goes so deep into every game...  donnie moore, yes, its true... dead guys can't pitch.  
another reliever who absolutely sucks is dave smith...  
he has no fastball and his ball has no movement.

Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 04:11:58 PM
hey gwynnie...we are located in worcester ma....somewhere about 30 minutes west of boston...quaint little city....dirty

anyways...we play serious games with serious pitching and it usually ends in us hating eachother for a while....we have a few rules...we have to use the starters (first two on the list) to start...and you cant sub in a starter in a game...you have to use the relievers...you have to pitch directly to the pitchers...no funny stuff...otherwise, everything is game....we play 7 game series....i have traditionally been on the winning end of these....but they are close....t has this thing with using the cardinals....which is nice if they are hitting, but if you get by jack clark and lideman, usually they have no chance....but with the mets and giants he gives us a great series...im either the tigers, the angels or the sox....and an ocasional twins....oh yeah...a nickname for frank viola is "sweet music"...and for al pedriq, we like to call him lou....bban
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/13/02, 04:36:37 PM
You are going to make a solid addition to the RBI Forum bban, plenty of experience there...

Bring Todd along as well, any from of Spilman is a friend of mine.  So Harry can hit in curve style?  

Henke-panky is a quality nickname, I'm putting it in after this post...

Just lost to Potsie, who's on fire tonight.  My 16 dingers weren't enough - I had potatoes with the bases loaded in the 9th and he grounded out.   Was going for his 5th homer too, ass...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 04:45:07 PM
seems like we have a lot of chowds playing rbi   bban look out for mookie and stuart up at uconn... they are regulars on this forum and they take their rbi-age seriously.  


as for potatoes grounding out with the sacks packed...
dont know what to say..

what about his appearance in naked gun where he is supposed to shoot the queen... how funny is that.  

even though they use 3 different stadiums to shoot the game.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 05:34:34 PM
I feel as though ive finally found a home (weepping, holding tom brookens card in hand, staring lovingly at the horizon of a new day)

phew....so, spilman can hit almost anything...t has a knack of putting in timely subs...one of our favorite stories has to do with spilman

it was the 8th innning...i had to be up by 7-9 runs...and t loaded the bases....he had to hit for his pitcher...so i suggested he put in speier...or however you spell it....he has always hit well for me...so t, once again pride overflowing, puts in spilman (his virgin run for t) and states, quite unapologetically "fuck you b, ill do it my own way"....the "y" or way had not left his mouth and spilman emptied the bases with a grand slam....and t was elated...however he lost the game...but i will definately tell t to get on here....he likes to talk alot about rbi....he is the one who found the site....he cant get enough...

is this the place to voice opinon about any subject?...cause i feel as though one man has been overlooked in most assesments of talent...im not saying he should be on the legend list (which got rave reviews from both me and t)...but there is one man who isnt mentioned much...as a detroit tiger seasoned veteran....i feel that mike heath is the man...he is fondly refered to as "a professional hitter"...ive also dubbed mr madlck on the tigers as "the best pure hitter in baseball"...what are your views on that??

my last note for this blurb....another great moment was when me and todd got so intense, that we decided that after each series, we would have to draft an article going over the events....those were classic...after one such article, t , in an uproarious and thrilling series, won in 6 games...with the cardinals....after which he signed a lifetime deal with the cardinals and signed jose oqendo to a 4 year. 400 million dollar contract.....

oquendo now rides the bench.....
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/13/02, 05:46:58 PM
Great stories t & bban...
 
Mike Heath is well liked in the dee-nee house, though he never starts.  I think he's better than Madlock, though Lips is the expert on Detroit matters.  Heath is a one-AB hitter, but it's usually quality....
 
I like Jose Oquendo more than most, he hits well for me.  Yes, I have gotten a couple dingers with him - but for a powerless lefty he gets way more hits than his counterparts (Coleman, Pettis, Ozzie).  Half the time I play with St. Lous (which admittedly isn't very oftern) Jose will take Pena's place...  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 05:49:28 PM
mike heath is a good hitter but is often overlooked cause he is on a stacked team...  madlock and sheridan usually get the full time slots leaving bergman and heath to pinch hit late.  

oquendo is truly ass-  the only difference between he and a pitcher is he is "B" speed instead of "A".  so whoever his agent was that got him the  $400 million
contract should get a raise.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/13/02, 05:56:17 PM
I can lay the smack down with Oquendo, he typically gets me 2 hits a game.  To be fair though, I don't play with him or St. Louis that often.   So if I played with Oquendo and the Cardinals consistently, he would probably suck.  But for now he's decent....

Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 05:57:15 PM
hey lips....t is a big fan of tony pena....he claims he has the best arm in the game...and he was pretty clutch for him...either its a homerun or an out.....however, i have recently got in t's kitchen by stating that tony pena has no heart...and has been playing so lately....

this is my detroit lineup....

trammell, gibby, sweet darrell, fatty matty nokesssssssssssssssss, madlck, cheddar, louis, God

i put in madlck because hes always pounded the ball for me...he has hit 5 HRS in one game, on crazy pitching...a feat never matched in our play....ive had great luck with him....and larry herndon should die a slow and agonizing death....i use heath only as a pinch hitter...and he is a professional hitter...so he produces in clutch moments....

i used to play, as a kid, the straight pitch way....and i can say, and maybe this is because im a complete freak, that i never lost...i used to play all the time...keep stats...seasons....i was a lonely boy....but t gave me the first game...and then he beat me....and it was great to know i had someone who could actually play...that kid can pitch....and to his credit...he brings the best out of the st louis cardinals....although he has lost to the astros in a series with the giants...he also is the master of the hard toss from the outfield....i suck at it...im the master of the rainbow....i feel for you lipz....

we also play it on a huge screen tv....which makes everything incredible...i still want the scientific explination on how men with no knees can run.....
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 06:00:49 PM
thats another reason why the original will never be beat.  the fat, pudgy players with the color coordinated bats.  who could ask for anything more?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 06:12:33 PM
in response to the oquendo thing....t gave him the contract...he should be institutionalized...

here is the webpage for my hero.....tom brookens....i think he should be put on some sort of legendary status....

http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/4390/brookens.html

he is the reason for my quote at the bottom....he is a todd killer....and leads me to say "how many times has he beatcha t?" when he comes up...and he usually does....
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 06:17:05 PM
hey bban... have you looked at the mustache forum.. there are some other pics of your hero
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/13/02, 07:10:56 PM
t here, bban's primary RBI competition and sidekick, and i have been waiting patiently to put in my 2 cents worth on what i feel is the greatest video baseball game in existence.

but first: gantry - i love your work, and it warmed my heart to stumble upon this site and realize, for perhaps the first time in my life, that bban and i were not alone in our love for RBI. you have done the online world a great justice with your dee-nee efforts. i thank you.

bban has no doubt told you of my affection for mr harry spillman, oquendo (i signed him to the $400 million contract under the influence of illegal drugs), and john lindeman. however, there is one cat who has been overlooked. his name is morris, blank morris as we call him, and he rides the pine for the homerless cardinals. i start him for herr, and in non-straight pitch games (which is our style), he performs well and hits the jesus out of the ball. try him out. he'll win you games. of course, only if vince decides it would be best for the team if he were to hit the fucking ball on the ground. also, scotty garrelts has lost me more games than anyone else. the worst pitcher in the game. his fastball is alive, but it goes nowhere but over the wall, and fair.

there is so much else to write. i hope that in some capacity, bban and i can contribute to your site - perhaps as advanced scouts and talent evaluators. we love the game. we're actually going to get a game in right now.

thanks again.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/13/02, 07:36:44 PM
todd,  looks like you need to get your own id for the forum so you dont have to gravytrain off of bban...  welcome to the site.  john morris is a step up from tommy herr.  jim lindeman is also a good sub...  unfortunately, you are fond of tony jala-pena.  he doesnt see the field for me... lindeman provides a little bit of power and that goes a long way for the red birds.

Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: t on 03/14/02, 04:57:07 AM
i've got my own ID finally, and i'm ready to roll. this forum will certainly help get me through the workday.

gwynn-
in my many losses at the helm of the saint louis cardinals, i have found the following players to have a little more pop than i first anticipated:
morris, pendleton, ford, and pena. clark and lindeman are obvious longball candidates. i have also hit four homers with the wizard - and those might just be his only hits for me. he's mired in a 4-458 slump right now, but he's swinging the bat well.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/14/02, 07:33:49 AM
just to update....there were a mere 2 games played last night...in the first game, the tigers took a commanding opening game victory on the back of darrell evans (3HRs, single, 4rbis) and Maddog (2HRs, 3 hits, 4 RBI's)...professor plumb went the distance to win the game 9-4.....in game two, a tightly contested game between danny cox and jack and coke....God went deep in the 3rd to break the ice, but a timely hit by vince coleman knocked in a run to tie it in the 6th....we come to the top of the 9th and allen trammell takes todd worrell (see worst releivers ever) out of the stadium to seal the deal....a 2-1 win and a 2-0 series lead for the tigers.....
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: t on 03/14/02, 09:43:51 AM
....but the tigers know we can compete now.

no, but i didn't have an answer for darrel evans or madlock. hell, or anyone else. i did get the professional hitter, mike heath, out. that was a confidence booster.

some games the cards just suck. i can usually tell early whether they'll have a chance depending upon how (or if) vince and the wizard are hitting. they set the table.

my cardinals lineup:

coleman
smith
morris
clark
mcgee
pendleton
ford
pena

i should play lindeman more, but i usually use him as a pinch hitter if there are ducks on the pond. oquendo usually get's an at-bat, as well. i seldome use "riki" lake. anyone know anything about him?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: mookiewilson on 03/14/02, 11:06:31 AM
No homers ever hit by a pitcher up here at Uconn.  If someone was to ever do it, i think it would probably be either Frankie V or the Crackhead Doctor.  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/14/02, 02:53:34 PM
i guess when ozzie does hit it he makes it count.   what does 4 for 458 amount to... that average has to be miniscule.  

that tigers cards game looks to be a little onesided yet todd is adament in his loyalty to the impotent redbirds.  

you have to repsect his dedication.


Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: t on 03/15/02, 04:45:35 AM
Quoteyou have to repsect his dedication.



thanks, gwynn.

the road i have chosen is not an easy one by any means, nor does it afford me much gratification - but when the redbirds are on, they can turn any game inside out. i suppose i have a soft spot for tony pena, too.

and i don't know if you are aware, but bban buys me a cd for every homerun ozzie hits, and there is nothing quite like watching a grown man slump to the counter of the nearest record store with a david bowie cd that t doesn't yet have, knowing the wizard had just taken him deep moments ago. words simply fail it.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/15/02, 05:34:11 AM
First off, thanks for the kind words t...  I felt the same way when I found rbibaseball.com in college.  It was great, but was never updated.  So I needed to learn html awhile back, and I figured an updated RBI site would be the perfect way to go.  And it just kept growing....

As for the Cards, they just can't hang in straight pitch.  Though with curves and Tudor being a good pitcher, it seems like you can put up a good fight.  With our style though, it's just plain impossible to win with St Louis over the big 3 (Boston, Cali, Detroit).  They would probably lose 90-95% of the games.  But keep on fighting!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: t on 03/15/02, 05:39:51 AM
fight i will! besides, everyone on the cards with the exception of jack clark is due for a big game at some point in the near future.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/15/02, 07:46:28 AM
jack clark has been glossed   obiwon kanobe because he is their only hope to hit a home run...  he usually doesnt though.

for you star wars buffs out there, i apologize if i butchered the spelling
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/15/02, 09:15:01 AM
as my fiercest (and quite frankly only) competior, i have nothing but respect for mr. richardson and his game play...he has remained somewhat true to his lifetime contract with the cardinals and we have great games....in curve pitching, having the big bats doesnt guarntee you a win....proof of that is t's many victories against me and my series win with the lowly houston astros....however, i feel as though t needs a change...i say this t as a freind and a coutnerpart...you need to move your team to minnesota or san fran....enough with this redbird garbage...as we stated the other day....your team has tony pena disease...no heart whatsoever....oquendo is just playing out his contract....mcgee is buttugly....pendelton and morris are asking the front office to be traded....vince coleman and ozzie smith combined may be able to hit it out of the infield and curt ford is wishing he was curt flood....t, its just time to move........just admit it
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/15/02, 09:39:46 AM
hey todd, sounds like your opponent thinks that you need to upgrade your team in order to compete.   all i know is that it takes gumption to keep picking those weak redbirds... but if you want to give yourself a chance... take the sox and represent your chowd heritage.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Dill on 03/18/02, 12:03:04 AM
I commend anyone that sticks with a national league team, and tries to steal a victory from those fat, DH-loving American leaguers.  There is no strategy.  No, let's not hit-and-run, let's just sit back and swing from our damn heels and try to hit a 3 run jimmy jack!  American league pisses me off, yet my favorite team in real life is the Tigers and has been for 15 years.  Go figure.  I like playing with the Cards also.  I love the speed, and it takes some real skill to get Vince and Ozzie on so they can run.  Some timely substituions, and you can win a ballgame or two with them.  BTW, Stuart hangs his hat in Arkansas, not UConn.  And he has only visited 9 states in his entire life.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/18/02, 07:10:20 AM
my bad i got stuart confused with the uconn group...  those guys are probably pissing themselves after their school made it to the sweet 16 and are too intoxicated to make any posts.  needless to say, i bet a few students are skipping out on classes today.  i myself would love to but i have to find out how poorly i did on my art history test....  uggh!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Craig341 on 03/19/02, 07:08:09 PM
I never have myself, although I just gave up a rocket  grand slam shot to Clemens. In 1P mode, though. I don't have many friends.  :)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/19/02, 07:44:03 PM
craig... you saying that you just gave up a grand slam to the computer... to a pitcher no less...  you need to practice...  i didnt know pitchers could hit shots... as far as the legend goes,  the only homeruns they are capable of are the ones that go through the wall at the foul pole.  give us more information.

i am sorry that you dont have much of a social life...  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Craig341 on 03/20/02, 07:48:33 AM
Yeah. I kinda do suck at the game. But for some reason, I like playing it anyway.

Anyway, I think the pitch was an inside fastball (I wasn't really paying attention, I was telling my sister to go away), next thing I know, I see the pitch taken deep to right for a grand slam. I guess the moral of the game is to PAY ATTENTION.  :)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/20/02, 05:33:54 PM
i was having a hard time believing you that roger clemens hit a homerun off of you but now i am sure you are fibbing cause there is no way in hell that a pitcher is going to go oppo....  i find that really hard to believe.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Craig341 on 03/21/02, 11:02:18 AM
They might have had a pinch-hitter. I wasn't paying attention because like I said, I was arguing with my sister(which takes up about 90% of my waking hours anyway. :) ).
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/21/02, 08:15:06 PM
now that sounds more like it... the computer can suprise you with their substitutions...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Dill on 03/24/02, 12:15:10 AM
You scared me.  I thought the Rocket swung inside-out and took you deep, for a grand slam.  I was going to permanently decertify you from playing the game ever again.  Nobody is that bad.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/24/02, 08:18:08 AM
he cant be that bad and the rocket sure as hell isnt that good.  the guy cant swing worth shit.   the only thing that red ass can do with the bat is throw it at unsuspecting hitters.  oh that's right, he thought it was the ball... then why didnt he chuck the bat at tino over at first... roger, you are an ahole and you know damn well what you are doing.  i hope you dont reach 300 wins.  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Dill on 03/25/02, 12:14:58 AM
I hate real world Clemens so much, but I have to disagree aboot his hitting abilities on RBI.  I have always had him in the top three among the best hitting pitchers, along with Nolan and Doyle.  Seems to get a hit per game.  One game he had two gappers that went for two bags each.  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/25/02, 07:49:00 AM
I'm back....

Lips is a big fan of Clemens at the plate, he can get the hits on occasion.  The only two pitchers I find to be better than the comp are Don Sutton and The Doctor.  Nobody else rings a bell for being above-average, at least for me...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/25/02, 03:47:20 PM
for me, all pitchers are weak and the chances of getting a hit are the same... slim and none and slim just left.  

when they do get one it is almost always with nobody on... however those rare occurances where they do get an rbi are satisfying.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 03/29/02, 10:28:54 AM
i very well may be repeating myself here...but doyle alexander is the best hitting pitcher in the game, followed up by his teamate and clubhouse leader jack morris....i also hit very well with mike witt...on occasion others pop a hit here or there...but those three can hit....
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/29/02, 02:07:09 PM
i have said this before but i dont think there is any noticable difference between pitchers when it comes to their hitting.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Dill on 03/30/02, 12:39:00 AM
Hell yes there is a noticeable difference.  Doyle is definitely a top 4 hitting pitcher, along with Nolan, the Rocket, and the newly crowned "best hitting pitcher", British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith.  Some of our thought process on who should start a game depends on the pitchers' ability to hit because our games are so close.  A timely pitcher hit could make the difference (see previous post on Davey Boy's accomplishment).  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/30/02, 10:03:25 AM
if you are so sure that there is a difference,  why dont you start keeping track...    

i will do the same and will report back later.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 03/30/02, 11:40:27 AM
It would be interesting to break out some scientific pitcher analysis, but we're too lazy for that.  Like I said, I think Don Sutton is the best hitting pitcher in the game, though I have no proof...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 03/30/02, 06:07:36 PM
i am going to play statistician for a couple of weeks...  i will monitor each hurler's achievements at the plate and will relay the results to the forum.


Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: king_jason on 04/02/02, 02:33:28 PM
i hit a bunt triple w/ doug corbett once. ha ha.

i've never even had a pitcher hit it within an inch of the wall on the fly before. i haven't played rbi nearly as much as some of you guys, but i've never come close to seeing it happen.

if anyone cares, in later versions of rbi, jason grimsley hit a fly ball of the wall for me in rbi 3, and dan pleasc hit one into the seats in one of the sega genesis games. however, in the classic original version, no hr's by the moundsmen.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Burnzky on 04/02/02, 09:07:35 PM


   Whether there are pitchers that are better hitters than other pitchers, i really dont care.  For me Sullivan or Davidson is better than taking a chance on a pitcher.  At least Sullivan has the pinch hitter luck working for him.  Pinch hitters always have one good hit in them.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 04/03/02, 09:33:51 AM
i would have to agree with you burnzky,  pinch hitters have the mojo going for them especially in their first swing... and it dwindles after each successive swing.  
wasnt it sullivan who took you deep the other night burnzky?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Burnzky on 04/03/02, 08:09:06 PM


  Ya sullivan has taken me deep a couple times lately.  But i think his stats caused me to go easy on him.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 04/04/02, 09:54:59 AM
id rather use a pitcher than sullivan....sullivan is a piece of garbola....not a real big fan....and nothing is sweeter than a dinkfuck through the left side by a pitcher that you just cant get to
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 04/04/02, 03:50:20 PM
i used to share your opinion bban...  however, recently i realized that while sully is not gonna get the job done regularly, there are those few occasions where he come up big.  there is no occasion where a pitcher has done that.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 04/08/02, 12:10:02 PM
ill agree that a pitcher is not going to come up big usually....but with the way we play (you have to throw down the middle to the pitcher), there is a better chance of a dink single with the pithcers than by swinging and mising with sullivan
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gwynn3k on 04/08/02, 12:35:02 PM
we dont have any rule mandating slop to pitchers.  however, i usually throw puss to them in order to save my pitcher's arm.  as long as you know that you will get something easy to hit, i would probably stick with the pitcher rather than use sullivan.  
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 04/09/02, 05:52:16 AM
much like the pheonix rising from the sand, sullivan has had a rebirth...ill take you through it

game two, boston vs detroit....t goes up two runs going into the 9th....he brings in king, i tell him that i own king, he scoffs at me and goes at me anyways....tony armas, base hit to left....he grooves one down the middle to sullivan, mocking my choice to put him in, single to the gap in left, runner to third.....burks strikes out, then with two strikes, dave henderson takes one deep to left,a three run homer to win the game...

game five....the chowds up in the series 3-1, but reeling from a tiger game 4 victory and a two run lead in the seventh for the boys from detroit....clemens has pitched well, but once again, im feeling something...so i put in sullivan, with two on, and once again he comes through...this time with a three run bomb into the left center bleachers...puts the chowds on top....that was followed by an ellis burks homerun, his second shot of the game and the tigers went on to win the game and the series...the man may have just saved his career
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Gantry on 04/09/02, 09:02:41 AM
Sullivan can bring it, he just needs the proper settings.  I bet he's not too high on t's list right now...
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: B on 04/09/02, 11:28:25 AM
no...t is not a huge fan....and after the hysteria of last nights games ended, i still realized that he is 3-207 for me all time, so hes not that great...but he did have his moment in the sun for me
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: TbT on 10/13/06, 12:43:11 AM
bumpst for an old school thread.   ive read a shit ton of old, old rbi posts, and this one had all the critical old school dee-nee'ers. Gwynn3, bban, Gpines, Dill, Burnzsky....and i think there was another regular that ive read a ton of posts by.

these guys were tearing it up long before we came into the fold.  long live thier early pioneering efforts that got the post counts climbing in the early stages.


its funny to read all the old myths and things they didnt have concrete facts about.  nightwulf is the man.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/13/06, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: bban7700 on 03/13/02, 03:46:09 PM
thanks sir....it is an honor...

that is except for the time just two days ago when, once again in real pitching game play, todd worrell of the angels let up 6, count them, 6 consecutive homeruns to the detroit tigers...starting with Kirk Gibsons 3 run shot and ending with tom brookens, my personal hero and style mentor

WTF

First of all Worrell is on the Cardinals, 2nd of all he either hit 7 straight HRs, or started with Evans and ended with Brookens for it to be 6.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/13/06, 10:50:29 AM
props to TBT for the bump.  best week of dee-nee quality by far.  awesome stuff this week. 
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 10/13/06, 11:09:47 AM
I don't remember, is there a video out there of a pitcher HR?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BDawk on 10/13/06, 11:13:30 AM
myth
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/13/06, 11:14:10 AM
No video, but plenty of word of mouth proof IMO.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/13/06, 11:25:53 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on 10/13/06, 11:09:47 AM
I don't remember, is there a video out there of a pitcher HR?

The closest I know of is that during one of the first Fantasy RBI seasons, Jimmy Key hit one off the bottom of the wall that appeared to be just a few pixels from being a wallzie.  That, along with the testimonials of others here, has led me to believe that it's possible.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 10/13/06, 11:30:59 AM
somebody do it and post a video!!!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: TbT on 10/13/06, 12:51:31 PM
IIRC baines swears that in arcade version there was one hit over the wall....but he does drink a lot.   ;D

i'll say that someone like baines id trust on that.  so either it did happen or they lost track of who was at bat and it was the #8 or #1 hitter.

on a few occasions id temporarily get lost in the order vs the computer and get all excited when the #8 guys would get a hold of one, only to realize that im a wishful dolt.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/13/06, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: TBT on 10/13/06, 12:51:31 PM
IIRC baines swears that in arcade version there was one hit over the wall....but he does drink a lot.   ;D

Nope, it was a wallzie.  Here's the thread. (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=8248.0)
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/13/06, 03:05:46 PM
The drunk over the fence Pitcher HR was claimed by Doverbi, then ridiculed by his friends then next day because he was too drunk to know what was going on.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Darky on 10/13/06, 08:12:56 PM
Pure myth. I have one hopped the fence, but that was the closest I got. I have seen my apprentice one hop the fence also, but I firmly believe that it is next to impossible.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Metal King on 11/02/06, 01:18:39 PM
Well hello there again everyone, sorry I haven't been here (as if you cared....just kidding)!

I've hit homers for every regular hitter before, I've never been really close with a pitcher though, and there are 40 of them in the game!

I think some of the pitchers with actual lifetime homers (Gooden, 8) might be able to hit a homerun more, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BeefMaster on 11/02/06, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: Metal King on 11/02/06, 01:18:39 PM
I think some of the pitchers with actual lifetime homers (Gooden, 8) might be able to hit a homerun more, but I doubt it.

All pitchers have the same hitting abilities - 640 power, 64 contact, 120 speed.  Santana has 708 power, to put that in perspective.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 11/02/06, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on 10/13/06, 11:30:59 AM
somebody do it and post a video!!!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: camuyarenas on 01/07/07, 01:21:03 AM
Mine was with Nolan Ryan off Fernando Valenzuela, my friend was in shock; so was I. Of the others, I hit well with Clemens, Gooden, Valenzuela, Sutcliffe, Krukow, Don Robinson.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Stock on 01/07/07, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: camuyarenas on 01/07/07, 01:21:03 AM
Mine was with Nolan Ryan off Fernando Valenzuela, my friend was in shock; so was I. Of the others, I hit well with Clemens, Gooden, Valenzuela, Sutcliffe, Krukow, Don Robinson.

I'm calling bullshit.
Everyone knows Alexander is the only pitcher than can go yard.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BDawk on 01/07/07, 12:53:07 PM
No, Don  Robinson is absolutely the best hitting pitcher in the game
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 01/11/07, 08:12:18 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on 11/02/06, 02:49:33 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on 10/13/06, 11:30:59 AM
somebody do it and post a video!!!
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/11/07, 11:43:03 AM
Rdub once got very close to hitting a HR with a pitcher, but he got held up at third base.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/11/07, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/11/07, 11:43:03 AM
Rdub once got very close to hitting a HR with a pitcher, but he got held up at third base.

I already gave out my POW today (to rdub, no less), but this post was indeed savage.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: broiler on 01/11/07, 03:38:22 PM
Rags got pop
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: TβG on 02/15/07, 10:31:08 PM
i just hit a foul ball that one-hopped the wall in foul territory.

it was moore off of bedrosian.  man, it looked close.  he really got ahold of it.  alas, i still don't think a pitcher homerun is possible. 
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Briznock on 02/17/07, 09:12:40 AM
There has got to be a mathematical formula to see what the percentage is for a guy to hit a homerun.  If I knew more about gaming code I would figure it out for everyone and finally put this myth to rest.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: General Zod on 02/17/07, 11:53:30 AM
I've played so many games of RBI and the closest a pitcher has ever gotten was warning track power.  I do agree that Nolan Ryan has the most pop in his bat.
Title: I know it doesn't count... R.B.I. 4
Post by: redfanrod on 02/17/07, 01:22:45 PM
You guys can shoot me for adding this one to this "NES R.B.I. only site." I've homered in R.B.I. 4 for the Sega Genesis with at least one pitcher (can't remember who as it was about 15 years ago). The ball really flies in that game (those players must have been on steroids in 1992) and the game measures the home run distance. I think it was pretty typical to regularly smack balls 500-600 feet in that game and my homer pitcher went yard at about 380-420 feet as I recall.

Overall, it is a fun two-player game (play curve, not straight pitch) with all the major league parks. Too many "automatic" outs (i.e. pop-ups that hang for days) and you might get bored quickly with the one-player version.

But, boy, that game was juiced.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Metal King on 02/22/07, 09:53:27 PM
The "Tettleton" also seems to work for pitchers, I guess it's the only chance you'd have to hit one out, using that technique.

I hit a pretty good one with Gooden one time, to left field, it was caught on the fly I'd say about, an inch or two on the screen away from the LF wall.

Would those "Through the wall" homers count as actual homers for pitchers?  It would be incredibly tough hitting one over the actual wall.

I might mess around with my Game Genie sometime soon, maybe there's a code I can come up with to maybe speed up the game or hit the ball farther.  I already made a code (PUPKOX) where any ball hit keeps rolling THROUGH the wall if untouched by a fielder, but you have to still manually run the bases to get credit for the homer.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Nacho on 02/22/07, 10:59:03 PM
I believe both Canseco and Oquendo have pitched in MLB games, so does that count?
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 02/23/07, 07:42:56 AM
Boggs, too I think
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Briznock on 02/23/07, 08:11:28 AM
I hit an over the fence homer with John Tudor last night.  It was on a black cartridge on regular nintendo.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Nacho on 02/23/07, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: Briznock on 02/23/07, 08:11:28 AM
I hit an over the fence homer with John Tudor last night.  It was on a black cartridge on regular nintendo.

I call bullshit.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BeefMaster on 02/23/07, 09:45:49 AM
Quote from: Nacho on 02/23/07, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: Briznock on 02/23/07, 08:11:28 AM
I hit an over the fence homer with John Tudor last night.  It was on a black cartridge on regular nintendo.

I call bullshit.

I second.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Big Hath on 02/23/07, 09:46:58 AM
post a video
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/23/07, 10:14:32 AM
I assumed he was either joking, or too high/drunk to remember correctly
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Briznock on 02/23/07, 10:36:53 AM
Whatever.... I was playing and used my drink pitcher to press the button to swing and the pitcher's name is John Tudor. 

On the game, it was Tony Pena.
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: broiler on 02/23/07, 12:43:19 PM
so funny i forgot to laugh
Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: Briznock on 02/23/07, 12:57:32 PM
Hey... I am just working on becoming the least funny member....

Title: Re: Has anyone ever homered with a pitcher?
Post by: BDawk on 02/23/07, 01:07:41 PM
Quote from: Briznock on 02/23/07, 12:57:32 PM
Hey... I am just working on becoming the least funny member....



Watch it...that job's taken