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Poll
Question: Which player most deserved to be included on RBI?
Option 1: Phil Neikro votes: 0
Option 2: Rickey Henderson votes: 7
Option 3: Robin Yount votes: 2
Option 4: Ruben Sierra votes: 0
Option 5: Orel Hershiser votes: 1
Option 6: Eddie Murray votes: 4
Option 7: Bo Jackson votes: 3
Option 8: Barry Bonds votes: 0
Title: Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: seddrah on 01/29/04, 11:49:08 PM
Polls are cool
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: Baines on 01/30/04, 12:19:08 AM
Since all of the players are ones that would have appered on all star teams in RBI, I had to go with Rickey as being the biggest snub.  Hershiser also would have made sense as he pitched 2 innings and Fernando never appeared in the game.

Heres a box score I found from the game:
http://www.sportingnews.com/features/allstar/1987.html
There are a few players on each RBI team that never actually appeared in the game along with some notable snubs.  And I don't think anybody knows why the hell Al Pedrique is on the game.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/04, 12:38:28 AM
I would just love to see Bo Jackson play RBI.  If he would be half the player he is in the Tecmos then he'd be top 5 material for sure.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: Baines on 01/30/04, 12:42:11 AM
It would be worth it just to see him run over the catcher and have him bounce off and roll 10 yards like in the original Tecmo.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: seddrah on 01/30/04, 12:59:01 AM
Phil Niekro would have a sweet-ass knuckle on RBI.  But Bo Jackson would be your speed/power Jose Canseco-type guy.  fun stuff.

Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/04, 01:07:13 AM
I hate knuckleballers.
Besides, Bo would always hit the second pitch he saw into  The Void in center just like he did in the all-star game.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: Gantry on 01/30/04, 04:08:13 AM
I voted for Murray, I consider him and Dave Winfield the two guys from that era that had the most RBI-like qualities...

Jackson and Bonds were too early in their careers to be considered.  Bonds had a decent year in 1987 but including him at the time would have involved ESP into how his career would turn out...

Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: MarquisEXB on 01/30/04, 09:27:52 AM
Too bad the Toronto Blue Jays isn't an option. They should have been included, somehow. The 1987 team would give DET a good run for the money. After subbing McGriff for Iorg, you would have a fantastic lineup (7 spots with double digit homers & Tony Fernandez as leadoff), with Rance Mullinks & Cecil Fielder still on the bench.

Although I voted for Rickey. Super speed with good power. He hit 45 homers combined in '86 & '87, and would be as fast as Coleman.

Mike
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/30/04, 09:45:59 AM
I also went for Ricky, he'd be like a right handed Raines leading off for AL
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/04, 09:56:25 AM
Another Raines?  Dere's two of dem.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: BDawk on 01/30/04, 11:36:34 AM
Ricky and Raines--awesome. Who'd be better?
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/30/04, 11:39:13 AM
Well, speed and power should be about even, so it would mostly come down to the righty/lefty preference.

For speed guys I prefer lefties, so easy to hit the slow roller to the left side.  
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/04, 11:41:41 AM
Since this is a hypothetical question it's obviously pretty tough to answer.  But if you put Rickey's stats next to Rock's, Rickey's stack up better.  More power, maybe a hair faster, a la Vince.  I think he'd be like a faster Eric Davis.  Damn, that's a tough call.

Rock Raines
Lefty bias
Top 5 favorite player
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: GDavis on 01/30/04, 12:05:50 PM
I voted Yount.  The Brewers would've been a sweet team for RBI with Molitor, Yount, Rob Deer, Gorman Thomas, Dale Sveum and of course Schroeder.  Also Higuera and Nieves threw smoke, and Pleasac was a sweet closer in his day.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: sucka free on 01/30/04, 12:11:34 PM
As much as i love bonds...i had to vote for bo who was a sdavage back then
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: BDawk on 01/30/04, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: GDavis on 01/30/04, 12:05:50 PM
I voted Yount.  The Brewers would've been a sweet team for RBI with Molitor, Yount, Rob Deer, Gorman Thomas, Dale Sveum and of course Schroeder.  Also Higuera and Nieves threw smoke, and Pleasac was a sweet closer in his day.

That's the first time I've ever heard Dale Sveum and awesome in the same sentence.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: GDavis on 01/30/04, 12:40:36 PM
Sveum hit 25 bombs in 87.  He'd be a RBI stud.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: Baines on 01/30/04, 01:54:58 PM
A player that i wish was on the game is Walt Terrell.  He led the Tigers in games pitched and had a 17-10 record.  He was in my fraternity in the 70's at Morehead State and I drank a Falls City Beer with him at homecoming last year.  I'd love to be able to say I drank with an RBI player.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: seddrah on 01/30/04, 03:07:10 PM
I wish there was a Mariner included.  Sure they sucked in '86 and '87 and they had really shitty players, but I would have liked to see Mark Langston or Alvin Davis make it.

maybe that is pushing it--but it would have been nice to have a player from each team represent a portion of the AL and NL teams.

Langston was good enough to be traded for Randy Johnson and STILL have the city of Seattle pissed that they were getting screwed in the deal.

Fred McGriff and Dave Winfield, as mentioned should have made my poll.  And how do you forget Cleveland's Cory Snyder?

1986 stats: .272, 24 hrs, 69 rbi (as a rookie!)
1987 stats: .236, 33 hrs, 82 rbi

There is no question that Cory Snyder sucked and he probably has as a high of strike-out per at-bat ratio as any one who has ever played (including Kevin Maas and Rob Deer), but he 57 homeruns between 1986 and 1987 is pretty good.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: BDawk on 01/30/04, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: seddrah on 01/30/04, 03:07:10 PM
I wish there was a Mariner included.  Sure they sucked in '86 and '87 and they had really shitty players, but I would have liked to see Mark Langston or Alvin Davis make it.

maybe that is pushing it--but it would have been nice to have a player from each team represent a portion of the AL and NL teams.

Langston was good enough to be traded for Randy Johnson and STILL have the city of Seattle pissed that they were getting screwed in the deal.

Fred McGriff and Dave Winfield, as mentioned should have made my poll.  And how do you forget Cleveland's Cory Snyder?

1986 stats: .272, 24 hrs, 69 rbi (as a rookie!)
1987 stats: .236, 33 hrs, 82 rbi

There is no question that Cory Snyder sucked and he probably has as a high of strike-out per at-bat ratio as any one who has ever played (including Kevin Maas and Rob Deer), but he 57 homeruns between 1986 and 1987 is pretty good.

First of all, I haven't even thought the name Kevin Maas is so damn long. That's funny.
Second, you sort of have some Mariners. Spike Owen and Dave Henderson played the better part of 1986 on the M's.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: Baines on 01/30/04, 03:26:58 PM
Langston was one i meant to mention in my first post.  He pitched 2 innings in the game.  The only person with more was Saberhagen.  He definitely got screwed when you consider that Jimmy Key didn't play.
Title: Re:Who was most snubbed by RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/30/04, 03:33:04 PM
I was always pissed because Shawon Dunston got snubbed, he was my favorite player at the time,  why Pedrique, we'll never know.