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Title: Drop Pitch
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/02/04, 04:32:56 PM
I just want to confirm my assumptions on the knucleball, drop pitch, slow ball or whatever you call it:

1) There is nothing you can do to control if pitch drops or stays up.  For example, holding up the entire pitch doesn't make it more likely the pitch will drop

2)Pitchers with higher drop ratings are more likely to have their pitches drop, as a pitcher gets more tired, these pitches are more likely to stay up.

Can anyone confirm these as fact?
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 06:04:37 PM
If you play curve-pitch, you can significantly improve the chances of the pitch dropping by curving it sharply to one side as it nears the plate.    
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: Glassjoe on 02/02/04, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 06:04:37 PM
If you play curve-pitch, you can significantly improve the chances of the pitch dropping by curving it sharply to one side as it nears the plate.    

I'm not sure I buy that.
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: nightwulf on 02/02/04, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/02/04, 04:32:56 PM
2)Pitchers with higher drop ratings are more likely to have their pitches drop, as a pitcher gets more tired, these pitches are more likely to stay up.

Can anyone confirm these as fact?

Yes.

http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=426

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: Flood on 02/02/04, 07:59:13 PM
Quote from: Glassjoe on 02/02/04, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 06:04:37 PM
If you play curve-pitch, you can significantly improve the chances of the pitch dropping by curving it sharply to one side as it nears the plate.    

I'm not sure I buy that.

I gotta go with Glasshoe on this one
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: MarquisEXB on 02/02/04, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 06:04:37 PM
If you play curve-pitch, you can significantly improve the chances of the pitch dropping by curving it sharply to one side as it nears the plate.    

Funny that I do this as well. Someone will have to grab a pen & paper, throw about 20 pitches in a row with Mike Scott, per game for about 10 games without curving, and then the same with.

That should settle the debate.

Mike
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 10:41:35 PM
Well, I tried it with a bunch of pitchers for two innings or so each, throwing nothing but dropballs and curving it at the end half the time.  Heres what I got (I was too lazy to actually write down the result of every pitch, so I just unscientifically estimated):

Scott- dropped every pitch until I'd walked home five runs
Schiraldi- didn't drop one
Reushel- randomly dropped some
Sutton- didn't drop any straight ones, dropped about 1/4 of curved ones
Orosco- randomly dropped some
Saberhagen- seemed to drop more curved than straight, but not overwhelmingly
Alexander- randomly dropped some

So I guess I can chalk it up to random variation and superstition on my part- but I'll still keep curving it at the end when I need a good drop pitch, kind of like Boggs eating his chicken.
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: fknmclane on 02/03/04, 11:25:24 AM
I press the down button before it gets to the plate.  I'm not really sure it helps at all so I guess I'm like Rock in that its just a superstition.
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: MarquisEXB on 02/03/04, 11:44:05 AM
Quote from: RockRaines4life on 02/02/04, 10:41:35 PM
Well, I tried it with a bunch of pitchers for two innings or so each, throwing nothing but dropballs and curving it at the end half the time.  Heres what I got (I was too lazy to actually write down the result of every pitch, so I just unscientifically estimated):

Scott- dropped every pitch until I'd walked home five runs
Schiraldi- didn't drop one
Reushel- randomly dropped some
Sutton- didn't drop any straight ones, dropped about 1/4 of curved ones
Orosco- randomly dropped some
Saberhagen- seemed to drop more curved than straight, but not overwhelmingly
Alexander- randomly dropped some

So I guess I can chalk it up to random variation and superstition on my part- but I'll still keep curving it at the end when I need a good drop pitch, kind of like Boggs eating his chicken.

Whoa thats way too scientific for me.  :P
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: Flood on 02/03/04, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 02/03/04, 11:25:24 AM
I press the down button before it gets to the plate.  I'm not really sure it helps at all so I guess I'm like Rock in that its just a superstition.

That's weird because I do the same damn thing...I guess my brain thinks hitting the down button will make the ball drop.
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: fknmclane on 02/03/04, 01:16:36 PM
The common scientific term is dyslexia.
Title: Re:Drop Pitch
Post by: chubbrock on 02/06/04, 07:26:53 PM
I'm sticking with the curve method.  Even though we play over the plate, if you can move the ball from one side to the other, it's gotta a pretty good chance of hitting dirt.