Time for a new topic, who does everyone think the worst pinch hitter in RBI is?
Tough for me to say because there are a few guys I rarely use. I used to think it was Davidson on MN until I started playing with them, he can do the job for me now. At this point I'm going with Steve Lake on the Cardinals, I don't think he's ever done anything for me...
lake is one, davidson is pretty shitty, oquendo is crap, but for me, the worst sub in the game would have to be joel youngblood... the guy is pathetic.
Youngblood is pretty much worthless after his first at-bat, though Potsie is pretty good with "big stud" on a pitcher sub...
Spirer is no picnic either...
I know I'm gonna hear it for this pick, but Marc Sullivan is by far the worst sub, at least for me. He gets a pinch-hit opportunity every time I get to the 8th with Boston. I could probably count his total hit-count on one hand. He just flat out sucks!!!!
with those killer numbers, who'd of thought that marc sullivan would suck... i agree lips, the guy just doesn't live up to the hype. the odds are almost better if you leave the pitcher in.
those who think he is a cult-figure obviously are suffering from myopia.
The Sullivan needs clutch ABs, save him for the 9th. He is in a bit of a slump now, but he has proven himself...
Steve Lake, on the other hand, is one of the few RBI pinch hitters who have zero memories for me...
you probably remember him crushing a ground ball to short or hitting a pop up to left cause that is all that guy does. as far as allstars go... the worst subs are gwynn(for reasons i have already pointed out) and franco because he rarely comes through.
Ahhh, Sullivan. Once again, he failed to impress. Down 18-16 with one out in the bottom of the 9th...What do you think the Sweet Sweet Sully did? A ground-out to third base. Scrote MAGNET... Scrote MACHINE... SCROTE MAN-WHORE...
should have left your pitcher out there... at least then there is hope
Gwynn3k--
I think I noticed someone say something about Bill and Ted on this forum... But I didn't pay too much attention to it. All I want to say is, sweet quote...sweet movie...sweet sweet sweet. I wasn't that much a fan of the sequel, though. Non non non non non non heinous!!!!
its my all time favorite movie...
even as a history major... i have to admit that they did their research...
as for the second movie...
it is not the first but it is none the less a classic...
love the kiss song, "God Gave Rock n' Roll to you" that they play at the end.
id have to go out on a limb and agree with lipz on this one...marc sullivan should not be allowed to bat....ive never ever ever gotten a hit with him in the near 15 years of me playing this game....with the way we play, im keeping the pitcher in because at least i know im getting a ball down the middle of the plate....
however, if larry herndon was a pinch hitter...hed be the worst....
QuoteAt this point I'm going with Steve Lake on the Cardinals, I don't think he's ever done anything for me...
i agree, gantry. lake is useless. i've seen him hit a few out, but it had taken him about fifty at bats.
as far as i am concerned... most pinch hitters bring an added chance of hitting a homerun in their first at bat. however, there are those that just flat out sag... and arent even worth the effort of making the change. they include in no particular order...
oquendo, lake, youngblood, sullivan, heep, and davidson
I disagree with Danny Heep, but that's a pretty good list there. I'm also no big fan of Davey Lopes, though a few people here seem to like him. To be fair, he hasn't gotten too many chances for me...
i am still mad at lopes for being a hypocrite... remember last year when he got pissed at rickey cause rickey stole a base with a 7 run lead.... first off, that is not an insurmountable lead... (pittsburgh scored 8 in the 9th the very next day against houston) and second... lopes did the same thing as a player... check yourself davey...
as far as rbi goes... he is not getting the job done...
my houston lineup.
garner, jcruz, walling, gina davis, seabass, doran, reynolds, puhl,
on some occasions... dickie gets to play but lopes is strictly a late inning pinch hitter now.
the only thing i can say about lopes is that he has some quick feet....which pay off....garner is the true hero on that team....a true american original
garner has been so hot lately that i have even used him in place of denny walling... i know its hard to take a stud like that out of the lineup but garner has been on his game. lopes is fast and has a chance to score a big run with his legs... not his bat.
I finally lost last night out here in Az, one of my teamates has been playing me everynight, I got a little lazy and viola threw too many pitches too close to the plate, Joyner and Jackson each had 2 bombs, those are my nemises, no doubt about it. Final score 4-3. Minnesota bats were afraid.
I got my revenge mollywhopping him in the next 5 games though.
Also to note Garner and Lopes came up big in the 9th both hitting pinch hit HR's. Was down 1 in the ninth, they saved my ass.
sounds like you are getting some competition finally there piner...
as for me, i lost to my little brother for the first time thursday night 5-3 sf over ny.
Why all the negative talk about Davey Lopes? He is the man. Speed, hits for average and power, and a good glove wherever you put him. I like to sub him as the 1st batter, to give him more at-bats and to utilize his speed. But lately he has been in for Gina Davis. Just as much power if not more, plus he has speed. Puhl in the 3 hole gives you tons of speed in the first 6 batters (with Davey hitting cleanup). Puhl's not the fastest guy in hte world, but he has good baserunning smarts and, hell, he is not Walling.
Oh yeah, back to pinch hitters. Oquendo hit back-to-back pinch hit homers last time around. I put Lake in as a joke one game for Herr, and he had a quality game. Even hit a homer or two. Davidson sucks, so does Youngblood, Heep is good, Sullivan sucks.
dill i never considered yanking gina davis only because he is the only "legitimate" power. however, i am convinced that the guy flat out blows and does deserve some down time. maybe he has become complacent thinking nobody is going to take his job. this might give him some incentive to play harder... i will give it a whirl. as for davey, the guy is in a mondo slump...
When games are going badly, we like to "send a message" and bench some of the stars (not that Gina is a star in any way), but just to show them that their jobs are not insured against loss, theft, or seizure. Gina sucks balls and never decided to win her job back. I took her out just to send the message, but Davey loved hitting cleanup. Plus the opposing catcher doesn't think that a cleanup batter will steal, so he sits back on his heels, which gives Davey a couple of steals of second.
Some very interesting Houston strategies...
Looks like I'll have to give Lopes more of a chance. I typically put Terry Puhl Day at the leadoff spot because he hits the bombs. Garner will go 7 and Thon goes 8, but from what I've been reading Reynolds deserves a go in the seven spot. If we ever get some non-drinking games in, I'll put some of these new Astro strategies a go and see how they turn out...
Gantry, Reynolds must stay in, muchas pop. I only take out Ashby, put in Puhl, Garner saved for pinch hit bomb late in the game.
There's no way I can keep Hatcher in with our straight paitch games, he blows. But Reynolds will get a few chance to prove himself...
pines, why are you so high on billy hatcher... he is a typical lead off man as far as rbi is concerned... great speed, no stick and always hits it in the air.
Couple of things. Reynolds can only hit off of righties. Almost worthless against the southpaws. And Hatcher always stays in our games. We have to manufacture runs, and he is a good candidate to get on, then steal second, the get moved over on a bunt or a grounder to the right side, then score on a hit or sac fly. If he can do that twice a game, he is worth his weight in curvy RBI.
hatcher's speed would be beneficial if the guy ever hit one on the ground... too bad for him he can't get on top of the ball and hits them in the air. terry puhl is a great lead off hitter with an OB% near .400.
i have noticed that reynolds might be in need of a platoon vs. lefties... maybe that is a spot for dickie.
I guess you are just going to have to learn how to hit with Hatcher, because he gets on all the time. He's a force.
I can't ever see him being a force in straight pitch, but it's good to know he can hang in curve style...
goes unsaid that billy might get it done for you guys but he is on strike for me... oh well, the way puhl is playing right now he will never get his job back.
Terry Puhl Day is a monster in the leadoff spot, I don't think I could ever permanently replace him with Hatcher. Has anyone seen Puhl and Wilfong in the same room together?
Post #1000 in the RBI Forum...
considering that you and i have supplied more than half of those postings... dont you think i should become an moderator?
anyways, terry puhl is good, billy hatcher is not...
gina davis has become complacent... thus, he sits for phil garner.
the stros have played well since these moves were made.
Appreciate the offer, but these boards pretty much run themselves so far and another moderator isn't needed at this time. I've only modified one post out of 1000+ and there are no flamewars or idiot posters, yet. But if the time does come where more moderators are needed, you are the primary canidate...
As much as I hate Geena Davis, I can never quite pull the trigger and take him out. It is probably for the best though since he's really a 7 hitter batting cleanup...
geena davis will never live up to his performance in A League of Their Own where he dominated as a catcher. too bad he has since become a punch and judy first baseman... i think I am keith hernandez has more pop than that bitch.
kevin bass in the 5 hole is pretty weak too.
my most recent sucess with the stros, a veritable power surge by scoring around 5 runs a game....was provided by having lopes lead off.....leaving in 2-6...i may get some weird looks here...but cruz is a solid .300 hitter...walling proves that the sun does shine on the dogs as some days and hits a dinger....geena is always a threat to go deep....bass is one of the new masters of the "dink fuck" shot to left...and billy doran kills t...he is my catylist...after that, i put in garner, followed by phul...and just for the record....ashby is the worst player of all time...he may be a solid catcher, but he has dropped below sullivan because i got a hit with sullivan the other day....have yet to grab one with ashby....
sullivan is still the shittiest as far as i am concerned... boston would be better off with only three pinch hitters.
amen gwynn...in the way we play, i keep in the pitcher because i know im getting a straight pitch...and you can punch it through the hole....but with sullivan, youre just getting an out....
definitely for that reason. however, even in our versions where the pitchers get no breaks, i still would rather take my chances with them.
that definately changes things....the tough pitching to the pitchers makes my best hitting pitcher theory not as relevant....t makes the mistake of throwing tough pitches to my pitcher all the time, claiming he had no idea...but i dont really believe that...
Gwynn, is that why you make pointless posts all the time and feel obligated to respond to EVERY fucking post, because you were trying to become a moderator all this time? Anyway, I used to think that Andy Ashby was horrible, but he has had a great last couple of days going deep a couple of times and abusing the gap in right-center. I now keep him in. Hatcher, single-handedly, has won a couple of games in the past couple of days. I have so much confidence in him now. Geena sucks my ass and never sees the field.
fuck you dill
Be civil people... Locking this thread so the fighting ends here...