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Title: Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: seddrah on 02/13/04, 01:05:24 AM
Just a heads-up--I've thoroughly read thru the Nightwulf Rom Rating Tutorial (which is awesome, by the way), and I've learned that Right handed pitchers in RBI almost ALWAYS have a stronger curve the RIGHT than the LEFT.

Lefty pitchers are the exact opposite.

On this site's home page listing each team's roster and attributes the CL and CR columns are reversed.  In other words, all Righties have stronger LEFT curves and Lefties stronger RIGHT curves according to your chart.

Awesome work on the site!
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: nightwulf on 02/13/04, 01:58:30 AM
Wait, I never made a rating tutorial. Think you're referring to MarquisEXB's. ;)

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: MarquisEXB on 02/13/04, 08:17:07 AM
Actually I'm not sure if I have it right. We should double check by having someone make a 15/0 and a 0/15 curve pitcher.

Any takers?
Mike
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: Dryden on 02/13/04, 08:22:00 AM
Righthanders have a stronger natural left curve - that is, the ball breaks in on a left handed batter and away from a right handed batter, which makes it curve more TO THE RIGHT on the screen.  Left handers have a stronger natural right curve - in on a righty and away from a lefty, which makes it curve more TO THE LEFT on the screen.

If a pitcher is a screwballer, of course, these may well be reversed, or perhaps equal.
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: Dryden on 02/13/04, 08:27:58 AM
It's really more a question of definition - the values are fine, the names are fine, we just have to be really clear what "right" and "left" mean.  The names in Nightwulf's (and everyone else's) editor are correct from the pitcher's point of view, just not the hitters.  
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: Gantry on 02/13/04, 08:32:46 AM
The FAQ tells all again gentlemen:

http://dee-nee.com/rbi/faq.shtml#PITCURVE (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/faq.shtml#PITCURVE)

If you click any of the player stats (such as Cl) on the pitcher/batter tables, it takes you to the FAQ entry regarding that particular stat...

I think I have it right given Dryden's explanation...
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: nightwulf on 02/13/04, 10:23:37 AM
Actually, I always thought of it as curving toward one side of the screen or the other, from a "camera" point-of-view in lack of a better term.

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: seddrah on 02/13/04, 06:08:55 PM
I was referencing MarquisEXB's RBI Rom Tutorial, this is how it reads:

Regarding curves, lefties usually have a higher curve left than curve right & vice versa. So if you look at the curve ratings of all pitchers, the righties average 7.5 (CRV-R) and 4.5 (CRV-L), and the lefties are about the opposite (4.5 & 7.5).

Is this incorrect?  The Tutorial is very well written and it sure seems like he knows what he is talking about.  Does he have it reversed?

I've always thought of the CRV-R as the on that goes to the right side of the screen, i.e. the batter's right. But shit it could be the other way around.

anyway to confirm this?
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: nightwulf on 02/13/04, 09:51:00 PM
MarquisEXB certainly knows what he's talking about. :) The problem here is just the lack of a standard.

Anyone wanna put their foot down? Either way works for me.

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: TβG on 02/16/04, 09:37:33 AM
maybe we should go by the original rbi booklet.  does the intructional manual address this?
Title: Re:Gantry--your pitching ratings are reversed
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/16/04, 09:47:47 AM
If I remember correctly, I think the instruction booklet just grades the pitchers curve  A to F (A being best).  No individual grade for left or right curve