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Title: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/03/07, 12:09:06 PM
Hey, everyone.  I'm looking at starting up a 2007 playoff ROM, per fathed's request.  Quick items:

1) For the AL teams, do I make the DH start at 1B, or just take the top 8 hitters?  For example, if we require positions, Boston would have Lugo in the starting lineup, but with the top 8 strategy, Youkilis would start, Lugo would be on the bench, and there would be no shortstop in the starting lineup.

2) Is it worth the time to give the pitchers hitting stats?  I tentatively vote yes.

3) Roster construction hints appreciated for teams you know well - the team I follow isn't in the playoffs, so lots of this is semi-guesswork based on what I find on baseball-reference.

If nothing else, I'll save this as public so others can work on it.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/03/07, 12:26:48 PM
Playoffs2007 in the RBI Editor - I've loaded in basic team information and rosters/stats (but not ratings) for the Red Sox and Yankees.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: TβG on 10/03/07, 05:30:49 PM
my suggestion for the angels:

1 figgins 3b
2 cabrera ss
3 guerrero rf
4 anderson lf
5 kotchman 1b
6 kendrick 2b
7 matthews cf
8 napoli c
9 pitcher

(i vote for no dh in the lineup per traditional rbi)

bench:
willits
izturis
moralis
mathis

pitchers:
lackey
escobar
shields
rodriguez
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: fknmclane on 10/03/07, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 10/03/07, 12:09:06 PM
2) Is it worth the time to give the pitchers hitting stats?  I tentatively vote yes.

In the name of Micah Owings, yes it is.

1 - Chris Young - CF
2 - Orlando Hudson - 2B
3 - Eric Byrnes - LF
4 - Conor Jackson - 1B
5 - Mark Reynolds - 3B
6 - Chris Snyder - C
7 - Justin Upton - RF
8 - Stephen Drew - SS
9 - pitcher

Pitchers
Brandon Webb
Micah Owings (just so he can hit)
Brandon Lyon
Jose Valverde

Bench
Tony Clark
Chad Tracy
Miquel Montero
Augie Ojeda

NOTE: Bob Melvin shuffles his lineup...A LOT.  That's the closest to what his most consistent setup is though.  Also, Orlando Hudson is out for the year but started probably 120 games. Chad Tracy is on the bench because otherwise it's probably Jeff Salazar.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: fathedX on 10/03/07, 10:51:36 PM
The Rocks lineup today is the most common configuration:

Matsui - 2b
Tulowitzski - SS
Holliday - LF
Helton - 1B
Atkins - 3B
Hawpe - RF
Spilbourghs - CF
Torrealba - C

Bench
Sullivan
Carroll
Baker
Taveras (he's not on the NLDS lineup, but will probably join the team if they advance)

Pitchers
Francis - LH
Jimenez - RH
Fuentes - LH
Corpas - RH

Thanks for doing this!
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/03/07, 11:38:53 PM
NYY

1 Damon
2 Jeter
3 Abreu
4 Arod
5 Matsui
6 Posada
7 Cano
8 Mientkiewicz

PH Giambi
PH Cabrera
PH Phillips
PH Duncan

SP Wang
SP Pettitte (should be Clemens, for nostalgic reasons?)
RP Chamberlain
RP Rivera
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: nomaaa on 10/03/07, 11:51:22 PM
red sox (this is real hard without dh):

1. pedroia
2. youkilis
3. ortiz
4. ramirez
5. lowell
6. drew
7. tek
8. coco
9. pitcher

lugo
cora
ellsbury
hinske

beckett
schilling
papelbon
gagne


OR


1. lugo
2. pedroia
3. ortiz
4. ramirez
5. lowell
6. drew
7. tek
8. coco
9. pitcher

youkilis
cora
ellsbury
hinske

beckett
schilling
papelbon
okajima

i suggest the first, but you know how it goes.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/04/07, 10:46:03 AM
Progress Report:

Players/names/stats (no ratings) entered for Red Sox, Yankees, D'Backs, Rockies, Angels, Cubs.
All uniforms set (feel free to take a look and comment; the ROM is public on the editor)
No-DH lineups for all teams (David Ortiz and Travis Hafner will attempt to play first base)

I used Dee-Nee's suggestions for all teams, with the exception that the batting order I already had for the Red Sox was different from what nomaaa suggested, and I left that (I had Lugo 8th instead of leadoff, with Pedroia-Crisp at 1-2 - they've been keeping Lugo at the bottom of the order).

TODO
Ratings for all players
Names/stats for Phillies, Padres, Indians, and Tigers
Fielding stats - this is something I have no idea about, other than that I've been reading that the Rockies play really good defense.  Suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 10/04/07, 11:27:28 AM
As nomaa said, the "official" optimal Red Sox lineup starts off Pedroia-Youk-Ortiz with Crisp/Lugo batting 8 and 9, as neither Lugo nor Crisp has gotten the job done in the leadoff spot. Of course, if we can't have Youk in the lineup, Lugo or Crisp should technically lead off... though I'd be perfectly fine with them batting second so I could pinch hit Youk for them >_>

Based purely on fielding percentage, defensive ranks should be: Rockies, Red Sox, Phillies, Indians, Yankees, Cubs, Angels, Diamondbacks.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable_team_stats.jsp?c_id=mlb&baseballScope=mlb&statType=3&sitSplit=&timeSubFrame=2007&groupByTeam=true&Submit=Submit&timeFrame=1
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: bonny on 10/04/07, 01:27:07 PM
Royals

1. DeJesus cf
2. Grudz 2b
3. Teahen rf
4. Butler 1b
5. Gordon 3b
6. Buck c
7. Gathright lf
8. Pena ss
9. pitcher

b Brown
b Sweeney
b German
b Gload

sp Meche
sp Bannister
rp Greinke
rp Soria
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/04/07, 01:39:18 PM
Cubs

Soriano
Jones
Lee
Ramirez
Floyd or Murton
DeRosa
Kendall
Theriot

Floyd or Murton
Fontenot
Ward
Soto

Zambrano
Lilly
Marmol
Dempster
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: VEGAS on 10/04/07, 06:26:56 PM
F&#&#  GAGNE..


the other RP has to be okajima, right?



Quote from: nomaaa on 10/03/07, 11:51:22 PM
red sox (this is real hard without dh):

1. pedroia
2. youkilis
3. ortiz
4. ramirez
5. lowell
6. drew
7. tek
8. coco
9. pitcher

lugo
cora
ellsbury
hinske

beckett
schilling
papelbon
gagne


OR


1. lugo
2. pedroia
3. ortiz
4. ramirez
5. lowell
6. drew
7. tek
8. coco
9. pitcher

youkilis
cora
ellsbury
hinske

beckett
schilling
papelbon
okajima

i suggest the first, but you know how it goes.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: VEGAS on 10/04/07, 06:27:47 PM
savage

Quote from: Bonny on 10/04/07, 01:27:07 PM
Royals

1. DeJesus cf
2. Grudz 2b
3. Teahen rf
4. Butler 1b
5. Gordon 3b
6. Buck c
7. Gathright lf
8. Pena ss
9. pitcher

b Brown
b Sweeney
b German
b Gload

sp Meche
sp Bannister
rp Greinke
rp Soria
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: nomaaa on 10/05/07, 02:14:20 AM
i'm trying to think of how the sox will look in the nl games.
there's no way they can keep youk out of the lineup.
pedroia is a shortstop in the first place, and youk has played a few games at second (he started as a third baseman).

*for the team to be like this, at this point, is a blessing.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: JerryD on 10/05/07, 04:26:55 AM
Phillies

1: Rollins, SS
2: Utley, 2B
3: Burrell, LF
4: Howard, 1B
5: Rowand, CF
6: Victorino, RF
7: Dobbs, 3B
8: Ruiz, C

Bench
Werth
Iguchi
Bourn
Coste

Pitchers
Hamels
(Kendrick or Moyer)
Romero
Myers
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/05/07, 10:25:52 AM
I think Moyer is more in the mold of crafty RBI pitchers than Kendrick...
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: Attezz on 10/05/07, 10:37:29 AM
I don't think the Phillies should be allowed Johnny Bench as their first pinch hitter.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 10/06/07, 04:29:04 AM
Will stats be based off Arod's regular season or postseason >_>
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: nomaaa on 10/10/07, 02:28:46 AM
how's this coming?


(i'm not being impatient, just nosy).
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 10/28/07, 05:21:15 PM
On the other hand, I am impatient
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: nomaaa on 10/28/07, 09:26:19 PM
i'd like a late change.

1. ellsbury
2. pedroia
3. ortiz
4. ramirez
5. lowell
6. drew
7. varitek
8. lugo

youkilis
crisp
hinske
cora

beckett
schilling
papelbon
okajima
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: nomaaa on 10/30/07, 02:37:27 AM
hinske played for drew in the alcs a few times, but the homerun in the world series should probably give bobby kielty the nod.
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 11/01/07, 06:11:40 PM
So, who would teams 9 and 10 be?

Mets and Dodgers? >_>
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: Attezz on 11/01/07, 06:17:17 PM
AL and NL?
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: bonny on 11/01/07, 07:26:26 PM
I have a partially finished set of  roms based on end of season stats.  If anyone wants to work on it I can send it your way.
ROM 1
Bos
NYY
Tor
Bal
TB
Clex
Detx
Minx
CWSx
KCx

ROM2
LAA
Sea
Oak
TEx
CHC
Mil
SL
Hou
Cin
Pit

ROM3
Phi
NYM
Atl
Was
Fla
AZ
Col
SD
LA
SF
Title: Re: RBI 2007 Playoff ROM
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 12/11/07, 11:03:57 PM
So... who wants to finish this up for us? Because that'd be awesome... I just don't have the "zkillz" to do it.