A couple weeks ago I tried to go for an RBI world record: to finish every game against the computer as a no-hitter, shutout, and slaughter before the 6th inning (in the 1 player mode-what I call the World Series mode).
Although it's easy to do this against the computer in single games, this is a VERY difficult task to accomplish without restarting or taking breaks between games. And I nearly accomplished it. I ended up slaughtering every team before the 6th and shutting out every team, but I gave up 2 freakin' hits (one to Houston and the other to New York). Here were my final scores:
Dt 14 2nd Inning - No-hitter
Am 0
Dt 12 2nd Inning - No-hitter
Na 0
Dt 13 5th Inning - No-hitter
Ca 0
Dt 10 1st Inning - No-hitter
Bo 0
Dt 10 4th Inning - No-hitter
Mn 0
Dt 10 5th Inning - 1 Hit
Ho 0
Dt 11 2nd Inning - 1 Hit
NY 0
Dt 11 2nd Inning - No-hitter
SL 0
Dt 14 5th Inning - No-hitter
SF 0
Totals
Me 105
CP 0
CP Hits = 2
Average Inning Finished = 3.11
I took pictures of the screens as proof. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a digital camera to borrow, so it's on old school film. Also, the flash couldn't be turned off. So there is quite a bit of glare, but everything can be made out. I will try to scan these over the summer and post them.
If anybody has done or can do better, I'd like to hear about it. It took me an hour and 22 minutes. For the meantime I'm going to take a break from trying to go for the no-hitter, shutout, slaughter record again. But I'll give it another shot over the summer as this is my ultimate goal and probably the greatest feat that can be completed against the computer.
Beales
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That's pretty good...but how do you gloat about a 1 inning no-no? ???
I'm pretty sure the 1 inning no-no(s) aren't the feat...the feat is the aggregate of the no-nos.
That's kind of like saying to a pitcher who just pitched a perfect game:
"Some of those outs were strike outs of the pitcher--how can you gloat about striking out a pitcher?"
I think beating the computer in the 1st or 2nd inning is pretty good. I did this in 5 out of my 9 games. I understand your point, but isn't the offense important too? Am I supposed to let each game go the full 9 innings?
As JoeDirt said, it's the sum of everything that counts. Anybody can pitch a no-no in a single game, trying to do it in 9 consecutive games is the true feat.
Beales
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Don't get me wrong, that's good...but the one or two inning games seem just like that, one inning or two innings... ;)
This seems like something cool to try. I may give it a shot the next time i have a little bit of time on my hands. I had been working on the 9 inning no hitter w/o any errors or strinkouts but it was getting a little annoying having to quit hitting when you get up 9-0.
I'm assuming this is allowing strikeouts on the CPU?
Yes, strikeouts against the computer are allowed. You risk giving up hits if they make contact because you could end up committing a computer generated error.
I had a few of these errors, but all of them were against my pitcher or shortstop and none of them resulted in any hits.
Both hits they made were the results of line-drive shots just out of reach of my shortstop. Bummer.
Beales
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QuoteBoth hits they made were the results of line-drive shots just out of reach of my shortstop. Bummer.
I hate those. Thats how I usually end up blowing my no strikeout no-hitters. I jam the good hitters but a lot of times I'll just sail one right down the middle for the shitty hitters because i don't feel like wasting my time. Unfortunately, this has caused me a couple times to have one broken up on a line drive single from Pedrique type hitters.
This seems like an impossible task. Good luck. I never have the patience for more than two computer games in a row.
QuoteI hate those. Thats how I usually end up blowing my no strikeout no-hitters... this has caused me a couple times to have one broken up on a line drive single from Pedrique type hitters.
Oh I hear that. Neither of my hits were from sluggers. I believe my first hit was from either Hatcher or Reynolds and my second from Wilson.
QuoteI never have the patience for more than two computer games in a row.
I agree with that too, mostly because the games are boring and not a challenge. But it's not too difficult when the average game lenth is 9 minutes.
Beales
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It's been a long time since I've tried to strike out the computer, but as I remember, can't you pretty much strike out every batter? I think the skill against the computer is in no hitter without K's.
I think it's a worthy feat to go far, that and the 9-inning, no hit no K game as well. Two real computer challenges in one week, not too shabby so far...
It does seem like you can get a K on most hitters if you really want to by pitching inside for a ball then outside for a swing-n-miss. But I haven't tried it consistently. Either way, I know Beales wouldn't use a technique like this in his games, at least when going for a record of sorts...
All my pitches were outside for two reasons. 1) It'd take too long to go outside, inside, outside, etc. and that's not real baseball. 2) I need the practice for the tournament and I rarely pitch inside against competitors. It's just too much of a risk for a homer if you don't get the curve.
Beales
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Quote from: SmokedUBad13 on 04/15/04, 04:18:17 PM
All my pitches were outside for two reasons. 1) It'd take too long to go outside, inside, outside, etc. and that's not real baseball. 2) I need the practice for the tournament and I rarely pitch inside against competitors. It's just too much of a risk for a homer if you don't get the curve.
Uh, isn't that really 3 reasons?
Where's the third? I see a) taking too long and b) pitching outside as practice so as not to risk homers in the real tournament.
Beales
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Actually, looking at it, there are a shitload of reasons, not two and not three:
1) It'd take too long to go outside, inside, outside, etc.
2) that's not real baseball
3) I need the practice for the tournament
4) It's just too much of a risk for a homer if you don't get the curve.
Those are all reasons cited for not pitching inside/outside in an alternating fashion.
Ladies and gentlemen...Joe Dirt is on the muscle!
Semantics aside, I think we know what everyone is trying to say. Now lets see some computer feats broken so I can make a new entry to the FAQ - "how can I make playing the CPU more difficult?"
This is a sticky situation.
Let's examine the definition of a No Hitter.
"a game in which a pitcher allows the opposing team no hits"
In effect, a no hitter IS in fact when a pitcher throws consecutive innings of no hit baseball. In the MLB, the only thing you are remembered for are 9 game no hitters. Nobody remembers 6 no hit innings, then the hook.
So my last question, do the same innings standards apply to RBI for that apply to MLB? I say no.
The pitchers in RBI are, for the most part, simply incapable of throwing a 9 inning no hitter against a level of competition similar to the CPU. Simply put, if you are scoring runs, odds are you will score 10 runs before the 9th inning.
That is a fairly decent CPU challenge--a complete game no hitter with 1 pitcher. I'm positive I can achieve this without any trouble, but it might be fun to try...
I think if you are allowed to strike out the computer this would be fairly easy. I've come very close without stike outs.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 04/16/04, 11:42:10 AM
I think if you are allowed to strike out the computer this would be fairly easy. I've come very close without stike outs.
If strikeouts are allowed, then it shouldn't be too difficult. You can easily get through an inning with 9 pitches. 9 * 9 = 81. Well within the reach of the almighty Tudor, that's for sure.
Can you strike out a batter on three pitches every time? For me you have to brush the batter inside then thow on the outside corner. Rinse and repeat, so I can't do it in less than 5 pitches...
You can. The computer repeats itself. It has batting/swinging patterns that can be picked up.
But it's hard because I haven't found any pattern that determines whether or not they will swing at the first *just outside* pitch.
Beales
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so how many pitches does it take to strike the CPU on average?
Usually 4-5 pitches depending on the pattern. Sometimes it takes up to 3 pitches to figure out what pattern they're on. Then you can finish the batter off with the final three. That's an extreme example though with 6 pitches. Most are about 4.5.
It's all about the outside corner. If you pick up the pattern and know they're not going to swing, then you just want to clip it a little. Throwing the ball entirely over the plate defeats the purpose of the pattern and they'll swing.
If they are going to swing, then you just want to miss the outside corner. It's a hard pitch, but I think it's worth it when you get it down.
Beales
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If you put your pitcher on the inner half of the plate and do the sweeping curve across the plate and just miss the outer part of the plate, it seems like they'll swing every time.
True... the eventual problem with that method, though, is that once your pitcher tires out a bit, the ball doesn't always make it out of their swing range, and the slow pitch leaves enough time that the batter can make it across the box and hit something on the outside corner.
QuoteIf you put your pitcher on the inner half of the plate and do the sweeping curve across the plate and just miss the outer part of the plate, it seems like they'll swing every time.
Yes.
QuoteTrue... the eventual problem with that method, though, is that once your pitcher tires out a bit, the ball doesn't always make it out of their swing range, and the slow pitch leaves enough time that the batter can make it across the box and hit something on the outside corner.
Which is why you should always position the pitcher outside.
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