Many NES games are decided on the basepaths. Getting nailed in attempt to take an extra base can often win or lose a game between to hi-class players.
When visiting NYC, my games with Blyleven_No_No are battles in true National League form.
On the other hand, Burks_for_leadoff forces you to play an American League style of game
I think Dykstra Holic needs to pick up an NES
Baserunning is very important, when I play curve-style against someone good it's usually the person who makes the least amount of mistakes who will win.
I sometimes get to agressive with baserunning and waste outs.
alos sometimes playing against the computer we get in bad habits running the bases, because we can always run back and the computer wont throw.
baserunning does matter...especially against someone who can throw from the outfield....it makes things difficult....we dont see an awful lot of doubles anymore....and triples are less than scarce, unless someone completely misplays the ball....have you guys found that some players have better arms than others?..im not sure if this is at all true, but ive found that the st louis defense seems to play better than any other....
Very true, doubles are a rarity, only the real fast guys can get them. I have noticed that some players do have better arms than others, for example Drugs has a cannon.
I'm a big fan of Brunansky's arm, it's a cannon...
I must say that since visiting this site and learning the trick that pressing the base on the control pad and the A button simultaniously results in a hard throw, baserunning has not been as much an issue as it previously was. Its much easier to stretch a single into a double when the outfielder is rolling the ball in to 2nd base.
Quote from: GDavis on 08/08/02, 11:58:47 AM
I must say that since visiting this site and learning the trick that pressing the base on the control pad and the A button simultaniously results in a hard throw, baserunning has not been as much an issue as it previously was. Its much easier to stretch a single into a double when the outfielder is rolling the ball in to 2nd base.
What a pussy
I love BDawk pulling up threads from '02. I also love the Morrie's wigs signature... GoodFellas is on SpikeTV right now, and they just showed Jimmy Conway watching the commercial stonefaced. So good.
Baserunning means very little against good players. It's important against my retarded 10 yr old next door neighbor.
And by the way, have we had a Bly No No and Burks for Leadoff sighting lately? We played some good games back in the early '00's.
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/11/06, 09:37:55 PM
Baserunning means very little against good players.
Getting an extra base here and there is even
more important against good players.
>>>Getting an extra base here and there is even more important against good players.
I disagree. All of us know how to bear down with runners in scoring position.
I think baserunning is important against good players, but it's more a case of knowing when to take risks - in a high-level Anything Goes game, you can ill afford to lose runners on the basepaths, but that extra base can mean the difference between scoring a run or leaving a guy on third.
Baserunning is pretty basic and I would think most competent players have it down...so in a game of two high level players it shouldn't matter too much unless one of the players makes a stupid mistake...which again, shouldn't happen with two high level players. True though, baserunning requires more judgement in man v man because you can't just run towards the base and then run back if it looks like you'll be out. You have to know as you round a base whether you can make it to the next base.
Baserunning is important... rounding the bag, etc., but speed isn't that important in high level games.
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/12/06, 10:50:32 AM
but speed isn't that important in high level games.
What?
I think having Coleman, Ozzie Smith, Lopes, or Raines on base is huge
I think pitching and batting is underrated.
Fielding is the key. That's why it'scrucial to not try and throw too quickly and wind up with the "quick BOP".
Quote from: fightonusc on 10/12/06, 01:25:29 PM
Fielding is the key. That's why it'scrucial to not try and throw too quickly and wind up with the "quick BOP".
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Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/12/06, 10:55:09 AM
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/12/06, 10:50:32 AM
but speed isn't that important in high level games.
What?
I think having Coleman, Ozzie Smith, Lopes, or Raines on base is huge
Those guys are maybe the only 4 that can steal on competent players. Lopes always is trotting around the bases for me. I don't use all stars. Ozfest can't get on base. So it's really one guy, Coleman. As a result, speed in general is not important.
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/12/06, 10:50:32 AM
Baserunning is important... rounding the bag, etc., but speed isn't that important in high level games.
I almost forgot there are no high level player around here. Thanks for the heads-up. ???
Raines and Coleman are players you have to make a perfect throw on, and of course getting a good jump without giving yourself away in the batters box is crucial. Those two players can afford to be aggressive, because it is not wise to get them in a pickle/rundown. I have won many high level games with good base running. It can create momentum, especially with a double tag-up, double steal(if the pitch is a knuckle or regular speed curve) and scoring from first on a gapper combined with a bad throw over the cut off or to him. 1st and 3rd situations are huge in a tight game, and a bad decision cancreate a run. I am always aggressive but smart, because smart-aggresive base running can result in that game winning run. Some of you guys make me wonder how good you really are when I see such a display of arrogance of dismissing one of the games crucial fundamentals in RBI.
I am sticking with my point that runs are rarely manufactured in RBI. If an opponent gets a runner on base, I am going to strike out the remaining batters in the inning the majority of times. It's station-to-station baseball that i have seen among good players. Maybe you play a different brand, but I'd be surprised if having fast guys has helped you win many ballgames. SOME, yes. MANY, no. That's what I am saying it's not all-that important in quality play.
If you don't believe me then come to New York for the tournament.
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 10/13/06, 05:01:23 PM
I am sticking with my point that runs are rarely manufactured in RBI. If an opponent gets a runner on base, I am going to strike out the remaining batters in the inning the majority of times. It's station-to-station baseball that i have seen among good players. Maybe you play a different brand, but I'd be surprised if having fast guys has helped you win many ballgames. SOME, yes. MANY, no. That's what I am saying it's not all-that important in quality play.
If you don't believe me then come to New York for the tournament.
Station to station is how I go when I play upper echelon players. Obviously there are only two players who can steal about 70 percent of the time on quality opponents, and those steals are contingent on the speed of the pitch to home plate, cause upper level players know how to throw out runners. Those are the players that don't make bad decisions or throws. I prefer SF (anything goes) cause of pitching, but what separates me from all those dudes you strike out is my hand eye coordination. I can generate runs with base hits and balls hit in the gaps. I have two different hitting approaches in RBI:long ball and good contact-base hit ball. I never strike out more than 4 or 5 times a game max. So teams with above average speed benefit with contact ball and yes maybe an occasional bomb occurs. I am not saying there is one formula to win, it depends on your human opponent, the team you use, who you are up against, and the player you are using and are up against. It is all connected, but in high level games, I go back and forth depending on the situation and my gut feeling.
Dark Side, I wish I had that hand eye coordination. I am a guess hitter who swings for fences every time except for coleman, pettis (when i play him) and ozfest. (i don't play all-stars so no raines). I think I guess right more than most people, and that's my advantage. Rarely if ever small ball e.g. productive outs etc.
RBI is all mental. Guess right, and make the other guy guess wrong.