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Title: Triple play
Post by: Dryden on 06/24/04, 04:41:42 PM
Given how much time is spent wringing hands and hanging heads over such items as the wallzie and the pitcher homer, has anyone ever recorded a legit triple play (not when some idiot forgets to run back on a fly ball or something).

I almost had one today on a hot grounder down to third base, missed the guy at first by an inch.  It was close enough that I'm not entirely sure it's possible.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: sucka free on 06/24/04, 05:29:34 PM
I have done it several times after a line drive was hit during a double steal.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: doveRBI on 06/24/04, 05:45:08 PM
an inch on the screen is like 20 ft in real life.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Dryden on 06/24/04, 05:57:05 PM
Yeah, but that requires help from the other party...  Has anyone ever pulled off a straight up triple play?  (Ground ball leading to 3 outs with no baserunning fuckups)

Maybe it's even rarer than a pitcher HR?
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: fknmclane on 06/24/04, 07:10:24 PM
Chubbs and I do it every once in a while.  It's pretty rare, but requires slow runners at first and the plate.  Always happens with a scorched grounder to third.  Tag third, throw out Gedman at second, complete the trifecta with Armas at first.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 06/24/04, 09:00:34 PM
In the field I have never actually gotten this.  However, I have had made the play numerous times, it just always seems to be with 1 out already.  Hence, not actually a triple play.  Batting wise, the Cardinals are VERY easy to do this on, at least with how I sub.  With the combo of Lindeman/Pena at the 7/8 spot, followed by a pitcher, you have 3 brutally slow people in a row.  What combinations of hitters do you use that is prone to the triple play??
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: BeefMaster on 06/25/04, 07:52:58 AM
I've done it against the computer before - grounder to the SS/3B hole, 3B tags the runner and turns it.  I haven't done it by tagging third base, though, just the runner on his way there.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Gantry on 06/25/04, 12:13:08 PM
Definitely gotten the triple play via the lineout and tagging a runner on a grounder and throwing for another two.  As for the grounder to third, tag the base and throw for two more I am 90% sure we've done this on multiple occasions.  I need Lips or Sperling to verify but I'm fairly certain...
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Flood on 06/25/04, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/25/04, 07:52:58 AM
I've done it against the computer before - grounder to the SS/3B hole, 3B tags the runner and turns it.  I haven't done it by tagging third base, though, just the runner on his way there.
This is how my only triple play went down...almost makes it seem like a routine double play, but you get an extra freebie since the guy going to third runs straight at you.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: hdunlo on 06/26/04, 03:56:55 PM
the other day i trailed 17 - 16 in the bottom of the ninth with no outs. i had runners on first and second. i scorched a one - hopper to the second baseman who was in perfect position to tag the runner and then turn the triple play. game over.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Sperling on 06/26/04, 05:57:32 PM
I had one against Potsie in the RBI qualifier, so it does happen somewhat frequently.  He played Boston and hit a grounder to third.  You field the ball, run towards 2B, tag that runner out, throw to 2B, and finish it off with a throw over to 1B.  It's rather easy with a batter with "D" or "E" speed and when the runner going to 3B doesn't run back to 2B immediately.  By running back to 2B, it's harder to get the 1st out of the sequence thus throwing off the timing for the triple play.

The force at 3B, at 2B, and then the throw over to 1st base is much harder and requires quick throws.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/29/04, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: hdunlo on 06/26/04, 03:56:55 PM
the other day i trailed 17 - 16 in the bottom of the ninth with no outs. i had runners on first and second. i scorched a one - hopper to the second baseman who was in perfect position to tag the runner and then turn the triple play. game over.
Did you mean to the third basemen, I don't see how it happened if it went to the 2nd basemen.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: hdunlo on 06/29/04, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 06/29/04, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: hdunlo on 06/26/04, 03:56:55 PM
the other day i trailed 17 - 16 in the bottom of the ninth with no outs. i had runners on first and second. i scorched a one - hopper to the second baseman who was in perfect position to tag the runner and then turn the triple play. game over.
Did you mean to the third basemen, I don't see how it happened if it went to the 2nd basemen.

yep, who knows why i typed second baseman.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Mark on 07/04/04, 10:49:16 AM
I just got a triple play yesterday. A shot to the 3rd baseman, ran up and tagged out the man running to 3rd, then a throw to 2nd, then 1st. Just got the runner at first. Thank God for the slowness at the bottom of the Twins order.

Oh, this was against a very good human opponent. I am proud of myself.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 07/04/04, 02:33:23 PM
Congrats on the triple play, always exciting... did the person you were playing with run the guy going to third back to second?? I do this whenever there is an inevitable out and i am being chased down... usually it delays the throw just enough to allow my runner to get down to first... speaking of "running down" a runner, and how absurdly fast players become, does anyone with intimate knowledge of RBI player characteristics know exactly what speed the fielders run at? i mean, in relation to players in the game?  I feel like they are a half-step faster than vince, but have never really put it to the test...
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Baines on 07/05/04, 02:18:16 PM
I've had quite a few triple plays but usually the SS tagging the runner and then turning it.  I don't recall if I've had one with a force at each base but i would imagine it would be possible with a batter that was really slow but had some power like Armas.  I would think it would be harder to do with the pitcher because the ball would take longer to get to 3B.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Baines on 07/05/04, 02:23:26 PM
Anyone ever pull off an unassisted one?

I have but it pretty much requires a baserunning mistake.  I caught a linedrive at SS, tagged second and ran down the runner on his way back to first.  This was a result though of everybody being drunk and my friend not reacting fast enough to get his runner back to first.  Still, I was pretty pumped about it.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 07/05/04, 08:30:00 PM
I've made an unassisted a few times, but mainly just to be a pain in the ass.  It comes when I make a catch on a really well hit ball to the outfield (typically a web gem) and my friend had already sent his runners.  Since RBI Baseball does not allow a runner to retreat after touching the next base (a really odd quirk, by the way), I then run with the outfielder in and double (or triple) the other runners up.  He hates it, and its a slap in the face, but still satisfying to have one guy do it all.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: fknmclane on 07/05/04, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: OzzieLongBall on 07/05/04, 08:30:00 PM
I've made an unassisted a few times, but mainly just to be a pain in the ass.  It comes when I make a catch on a really well hit ball to the outfield (typically a web gem) and my friend had already sent his runners.  Since RBI Baseball does not allow a runner to retreat after touching the next base (a really odd quirk, by the way), I then run with the outfielder in and double (or triple) the other runners up.  He hates it, and its a slap in the face, but still satisfying to have one guy do it all.

When this type of thing happens in my house, the culprit usually gets kicked in the nuts and punched in the nose.  Very much frowned upon.  Actually, it's a cardinal sin of RBI.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 07/05/04, 11:32:17 PM
The only cardinal sin of RBI we have is that you cannot drop a clearly catchable fly-ball in order to get multiple outs... Anything else, no matter how demeaning, is totally inbounds..
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: fknmclane on 07/06/04, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 07/05/04, 10:01:56 PM
Quote from: OzzieLongBall on 07/05/04, 08:30:00 PM
I've made an unassisted a few times, but mainly just to be a pain in the ass.  It comes when I make a catch on a really well hit ball to the outfield (typically a web gem) and my friend had already sent his runners.  Since RBI Baseball does not allow a runner to retreat after touching the next base (a really odd quirk, by the way), I then run with the outfielder in and double (or triple) the other runners up.  He hates it, and its a slap in the face, but still satisfying to have one guy do it all.

When this type of thing happens in my house, the culprit usually gets kicked in the nuts and punched in the nose.  Very much frowned upon.  Actually, it's a cardinal sin of RBI.

Shit, my bad.  I completely misread your post.  I thought you drop the ball on purpose.  Once again, I'm an idiot.
The web gem triple play is a killer, usually resulting in a controller toss or slam.
Title: Re:Triple play
Post by: Mike D. on 07/07/04, 12:48:37 PM
My buddies and I used to call Marc Sullivan "TP" for his propensity for hitting into triple plays.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: Attezzobal on 03/13/05, 04:01:48 PM
Had a better than usual RBI night last night, including several games going at least 13 innings (including two 14 Inning game 5's, in five game series)

In one of the games, Baylor was on second, Evans was on first, Gedman at the plate, hard hit ground ball to third, stepped on third, threw to second to get Evans, threw to first to get Gedman...The amazing thing, we constantly steal, no matter who's on, no matter the situation, and this was on a double steal, but never-the-less was a 5-4-3 triple play, legit and all...We've even got a napkin diagram that I may try to scan and put up along with this post if I get the time...We've had many triple plays, this was the first without help from runners...
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: BeeJay on 03/13/05, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 03/13/05, 04:01:48 PM
The amazing thing, we constantly steal, no matter who's on, no matter the situation

I'm pretty sure that stealing has no effect on the runners once contact is made.  I timed Willie Randolph in the same situation both stealing and not, and he made it to second in right around 3 seconds each time.  The triple play is always a cool event though.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: JoeDirt on 03/14/05, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: BeeJay on 03/13/05, 04:27:20 PM
I'm pretty sure that stealing has no effect on the runners once contact is made. I timed Willie Randolph in the same situation both stealing and not, and he made it to second in right around 3 seconds each time. The triple play is always a cool event though.

I have a really tough to accepting this as fact.  Is there any way to verify this via code?
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: Nails on 03/14/05, 08:44:28 AM
It sounds weird, but I think BeeJay is right.  I noticed this too a few years ago, and started stealing and then intentionally hitting off fouls just to see where the position of the runner was.  I really couldn't tell much difference between stealing and letting the computer send the runner when the ball was hit.  They always seemed to be in the same location.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: ericdavisfan on 03/14/05, 09:01:42 AM
I'm positive that I've turned the triple play before, however, the only one that REALLY stands out in my mind is when I turned one, but didn't get credit for it.

Men on 1st and 2nd, screaming grounder to third.  Step on third, throw to 2nd, but the out doesn't register, because I try to make a quick throw to 1st.  Get the out at 1st.  2 outs, man on 2nd.  I remember it clearly, because it was on my arcade machine, and against a buddy.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: Nails on 03/14/05, 09:07:21 AM
Quote from: ericdavisfan on 03/14/05, 09:01:42 AM
Men on 1st and 2nd, screaming grounder to third. Step on third, throw to 2nd, but the out doesn't register, because I try to make a quick throw to 1st. Get the out at 1st. 2 outs, man on 2nd. I remember it clearly, because it was on my arcade machine, and against a buddy.

I hate the unregisted out more than anything else in that game.  Only pulled off a triple play once, myself.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: fknmclane on 03/14/05, 10:53:18 AM
So Beej, what you're saying is that if I start the runners they don't really get a head start off a batted ball?
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: BeeJay on 03/14/05, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 03/14/05, 10:53:18 AM
So Beej, what you're saying is that if I start the runners they don't really get a head start off a batted ball?

Yea, this is something I've always assumed but finally tested it out over the weekend.  It's sort of like the difference between a lefty and righty running to first base.  Once contact is made, everything is back to square one with no advantages.  I'm pretty sure it's this way for most of the NES baseball games if not all of them.  They're so simple that stuff like this wasn't figured into the game.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: ultimate7 on 03/14/05, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: BeeJay on 03/14/05, 12:46:48 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 03/14/05, 10:53:18 AM
So Beej, what you're saying is that if I start the runners they don't really get a head start off a batted ball?


Yea, this is something I've always assumed but finally tested it out over the weekend. It's sort of like the difference between a lefty and righty running to first base. Once contact is made, everything is back to square one with no advantages. I'm pretty sure it's this way for most of the NES baseball games if not all of them. They're so simple that stuff like this wasn't figured into the game.

I don't think this is true, I'll test when I get a chance, but try it with Coleman.  I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: BeeJay on 03/14/05, 01:35:23 PM
I looked at it again and I think I was doing something wrong.  Running on a pitch with Coleman seemed to be 2/10 of a second faster than not.  I'm still not sure though, it's difficult to time the run.  It's a very small advantage to run on the pitch if anything, that I've figured out.

Edited twice because I'm stupid

Edit: three times, I've reached McGrath status.
Title: Re: Triple play
Post by: ultimate7 on 03/14/05, 01:44:02 PM
I agree the advantage of running is small, unless the guy is really fast it usually won't avoid the Double play, but I think there is a difference.