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Title: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: TbT on 01/19/10, 01:20:34 PM
Trying to put together a list of 5 solid tactical options for those who are not enlightened in all things RBI.  Obviously the initial line-up subs is on here.  Going deeper than that....

-using relief pitchers as starters to stretch out their stamina as far as possible
-late bench sub power ups
-using base on balls to navigate through a tough line-up
-throwing strikes/out right challenging weak hitters to conserve pitch counts

What else?
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Shooty on 01/19/10, 01:25:25 PM
Don't use Houston
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BDawk on 01/19/10, 01:28:08 PM
Avoid lollipop throws by pushing the direction and the throw button. 
Stealing bases is nearly impossible if the fielding team isn't retarded
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: edfan on 01/19/10, 01:28:46 PM
I always try to have as many lefties in the lineup as possible.  I think that Gantry and crew follow this as well.

Pressing A and the directional arrow simultaneously to get a good throw
"Throwing to home" with the catcher to catch a speedy runner who is trying to steal 2nd base.  Just be sure to get the pitcher out of the way.

"The Tettleton"

I would argue that a better strategy than walking a tough batter is a beanball.  You waste less pitches that way and don't lose as much stamina.  If there is a guy that I don't want to face, I always try to hit him with the pitch


edited because I am slower than BDawk
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: TbT on 01/19/10, 01:44:57 PM
Quote from: edfan on 01/19/10, 01:28:46 PM
I always try to have as many lefties in the lineup as possible.  I think that Gantry and crew follow this as well.

I would argue that a better strategy than walking a tough batter is a beanball.  You waste less pitches that way and don't lose as much stamina.  If there is a guy that I don't want to face, I always try to hit him with the pitch

Yes, bean-balls when applicable are better than walks. 

The whole lefty thing is merely personal preference and seemingly more advantageous in straight pitch.  That chain if thought can change drastically when curve play is introduced into the equation.  In curve play, invariably some prefer same hand pitching/batting side while others prefer opposite sides in the pitching/batting match-up.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/19/10, 01:47:31 PM
Ignore the IF Fly Rule.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
Cocking the bat at 1/4 swing to get a faster swing response.  I'll do this if I'm facing a pitching speed change (like a fastball RP coming in for a spent SP) but generally don't use it since I often find myself in front of most balls anyways.  But there are some people who do this every at bat.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: fathedX on 01/19/10, 02:21:44 PM
That's 'The Tettleton' mentioned by edfan.  See, you learned something today!
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/19/10, 02:25:33 PM
Not sure it is possible to put the sweet spot of the bat on an outside corner pitch.
If this is true, never put a pitch down the middle.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BDawk on 01/19/10, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
Have you seen my baseball?
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/19/10, 02:25:54 PM
In high-level competitive RBI, how useful is the hit-and-run?  It use to be standard practice for me in my younger years to get a little head start when the ball was hit, but I mostly played slurve (we didn't refer to it as that, but that's basically what it was - very little trying to strike guys out), so the risk of getting caught in a rundown following a ball or strike wasn't all that high.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
I often find myself in front of most balls

Ha.

I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/19/10, 02:34:37 PM
That thing where you put in a pinch hitter for a starting relief pitcher, and you don't have to take him out of the game.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/19/10, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
I often find myself in front of most balls

Ha.

I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.

That can be dangerous, though, because the pitcher could try to sneak across strike 3 when the count fills.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: bigbrothermuscle on 01/19/10, 02:44:57 PM
Sub Wilfong for Pettis. I believe Gantry stated that and he's absolutely right.

I'd go as far to say Wilfong is the best pinch hitter ever. He may not hit bombers, but last time I played as California, Wilfong went 4-4 with 4 RBI's. Classic 'stache too.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.

Here's an ethical question that relates to the much heated JoeDirt infield fly debate...

If someone is trying to bean your hitter to avoid having to waste 4 pitches walking your slugger, is it ethical to swing to avoid the bean?
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/19/10, 02:50:49 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:53:16 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.

Here's an ethical question that relates to the much heated JoeDirt infield fly debate...

If someone is trying to bean your hitter to avoid having to waste 4 pitches walking your slugger, is it ethical to swing to avoid the bean?

No.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: edfan on 01/19/10, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.

Here's an ethical question that relates to the much heated JoeDirt infield fly debate...

If someone is trying to bean your hitter to avoid having to waste 4 pitches walking your slugger, is it ethical to swing to avoid the bean?


Let's ask Strassy.  Weeeeeeeellllllll....
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BDawk on 01/19/10, 02:54:18 PM
I see no problem with it.  You people and your defined rules for RBI.  It's supposed to be fun.  Just play and stop being such fucking dorks
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/19/10, 02:55:11 PM
Why would you want to let your opponent save 3 pitches on his stamina?
If he wants to put you on intentionally, then make him walk you.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: TbT on 01/19/10, 04:33:30 PM
I think its completely ethical to swing at attempted bean balls.  Fuck them!  Of course my friends and I play with an IF rule as well. 

I dont mind the If rule...with a ground ball at least you have a chance to beat it out...no chance in hell to beat out an IF with a runner trying to reach 2nd or 3rd.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/19/10, 04:56:00 PM
I personally observe the infield fly rule, but I agree that it is a problem in tournament situations where people are playing for money, so I have no problem with JoeDirt's stance.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Shooty on 01/19/10, 04:57:05 PM
Maybe people should just stop hitting so many infield flies.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/20/10, 07:50:57 AM
knocking the controller out of your opponents hand
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Attezz on 01/20/10, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/20/10, 07:50:57 AM
knocking the controller out of your opponents hand

The game allows it!
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Stock on 01/20/10, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: Tornado Bird:  Terminated on 01/19/10, 04:33:30 PM
I think its completely ethical to swing at attempted bean balls.  Fuck them!  Of course my friends and I play with an IF rule as well. 

I dont mind the If rule...with a ground ball at least you have a chance to beat it out...no chance in hell to beat out an IF with a runner trying to reach 2nd or 3rd.

Or, you could bunt the runners over.
I just don't agree with giving someone a benefit with hitting an in field pop up.  This is probably the worse thing you can do as a hitter, so I think you should get penalized to the max for doing so.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: JoeDirt on 01/20/10, 06:29:13 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
I often find myself in front of most balls

Ha.

I bet if you try to intentionally walk JoeDirt he makes sure it gets to a full count.

Situational.  But yeah, if the situation calls for it, I would.  Sometimes if you put 2 strikes on yourself, your opponent will be tempted to face the guy.

Also, Riley and I DO have our own set of rules...just not the IFR.  For example, if Riley says, "plunk 'em," then I crowd the plate and let him hit the batter.  So there.
Title: Re: Best RBI tactical innovations?
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/19/10, 02:18:09 PM
I often find myself in front of most balls anyways.

I bet you do.