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Title: The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: KerfieldRules on 07/08/04, 01:23:24 PM
I just found this site...AWESOME!!


Anyway...I was curious if anyone else has done this.   Back in 89, against the CPU (I know..it's not as hard) using Nolan Ryan I pitched a perfect, Perfect game.

27 Batters, 27 Strikeouts.  


Since none of my friends have done it....I have no idea how rare it is.

Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/08/04, 01:29:45 PM
I've never done it, but I've never tried I'm sure it is difficult.  Hardest thing is to have a pitcher throw 90+ pitches and still have enough left to srike people out.

Also I still want to try to get a perfect game with No K's.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Stevo on 07/08/04, 04:21:01 PM
I don't believe you.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Dryden on 07/08/04, 05:04:34 PM
I've done it with multiple pitchers, never just with one.  The most I've ever gotten w/ one pitcher is around 23 or so, but it's very hard to do so without giving up hits, as if you catch too much of the plate, it tends to be very well hit.

I don't doubt that it's possible, although the best pitchers to do it with tend to not be the hard throwers, like Ryan, but those with high curve ratings.  Once the ball gets down to 30 mph or so, it's all about just hitting the corners of the plate.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: KerfieldRules on 07/08/04, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Stevo on 07/08/04, 04:21:01 PM
I don't believe you.

Right...this was an elaborate plan of mine, to wait 15 years and tell this story when I found this RBI site.  Jeesh.

Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: KerfieldRules on 07/08/04, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: Dryden on 07/08/04, 05:04:34 PM
I've done it with multiple pitchers, never just with one.  The most I've ever gotten w/ one pitcher is around 23 or so, but it's very hard to do so without giving up hits, as if you catch too much of the plate, it tends to be very well hit.

I don't doubt that it's possible, although the best pitchers to do it with tend to not be the hard throwers, like Ryan, but those with high curve ratings.  Once the ball gets down to 30 mph or so, it's all about just hitting the corners of the plate.

When I use Ryan, I never use the FAST or SINKER pitch.  I only use LEFT/RIGHT on the mound, and curve LEFT/RIGHT.    Most of the time, the CPU will take a close 2nd strike, setting an easy curve away for Strike 3.   I clearly got REALLY lucky, that the CPU never hit those close 2nd strikes.

Ryan has good curve and if you don't use fast or sinker on him....he can throw hard till the 8th inning.   Remember, this was 15 years...but I do remember still having 70+ in the 9th inning.     I didn't throw very many non-strikes.....so that probably put me in the 89 pitch range, since 81 pitches would be the bare minimum.

This was way before digital cameras....but I did run to the store to buy film for an instanta matic.  I took some photos of the TV....but I've moved 5 times since then.....If I do find them, I will scan and post.

I guess by the replies...that this is not common. Until today, I only knew 4 guys who played RBI.  So I never really knew how rare it was.



Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Chinmusic on 07/08/04, 06:28:08 PM
Kerfieldrules Cheats.... don't trust him......

:P

Just got done playing my first game... SWEET!

Now to go online and dust off this kerfieldrule tard.

Wurd
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/08/04, 10:41:34 PM
Kerfield...how far is Granite Bay from LA?  We're trying to get together a huge tourney and would like you to be involved!
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Burnzky on 07/11/04, 01:21:47 AM


        Im not calling u a liar, but 27 strikeouts sounds pretty amazing.  I know there is a way to make them strikeout everytime, but when u start throwing slower they start hitting it.  
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: SmokedUBad13 on 07/11/04, 09:35:21 AM
I'm not buying this one either.  Especially with Nolan, he doesn't have the curve to hang in there long enough to strike out 27 batters.  If it was someone like Krukow or Tudor maybe I could believe it.

Beales
www.rbibaseballcotut.com - The R.B.I. Baseball COTUT
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Shooty on 07/11/04, 08:33:31 PM
In all my years of playing, I never even thought to try for a perfect game, so I attempted it tonight using SF vs. Houston.  27 batter, 27 outs, no errors, 18 K's.

However, one of the outs occured on a play at third.  In real baseball, obviously its a double, but on RBI, it doesn't count it.  Is this a perfect game or should I give it another go?

Also, while I think 27 K's in a game is quite possible, I have a hard time believing that anyone can do it by only facing 27 batters.  At some point, someone's going to get a hold of one that doesn't quite miss the plate enough.  
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: SmokedUBad13 on 07/12/04, 12:50:30 AM
Quote27 batter, 27 outs, no errors, 18 K's... Is this a perfect game or should I give it another go?

It's a perfect game in my eyes (if there we no hits).  However, it's not a "perfect perfect game" by KerfieldRules' rules since you didn't strike out all 27 batters.

Beales
www.rbibaseballcotut.com - The R.B.I. Baseball COTUT
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: JoeDirt on 07/12/04, 09:46:40 AM
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 07/11/04, 08:33:31 PM
However, one of the outs occured on a play at third.  In real baseball, obviously its a double, but on RBI, it doesn't count it.  Is this a perfect game or should I give it another go?

No way is this a perfect game...you gave up a double, dude.  Just because the game isn't advanced enough to recognize it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  Otherwise, you could wait to pick up the ball until the runner tries to advance on every single hit and throw the runner out at the next base...and the computer will say the hit never  happened.

So get back in there and try try again!   :D
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Dryden on 07/12/04, 10:00:41 AM
Just for laughs, gave this a shot yesterday, with Nolan vs. the Mets.  24 Ks, one infield single that led to a DP in the 7th, and one hit by the would be final batter (you guessed it)...

Roger McDowell.

Sad, sad, sad.  I think it's doable, but it's very tricky.  It would be easier with a righty pitcher vs. an all-lefty lineup in the late innings, you can throw it just down the lefthand side of the plate and miss by very little and usually get them to swing.  If they don't, though...  You would be very hard-pressed to K 27 and not walk anyone.  The risk of floating one just too close is really, really high, and at 30 MPH, they're just not going to go foul.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Shooty on 07/12/04, 05:53:16 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 07/12/04, 09:46:40 AM

So get back in there and try try again!   :D

OK...just got home and decided to try again and just pitched a legit perfect game.  9-0 victory BoSox over Houston.  Complete game by Clemens...12 K's after 4 innings but by middle of the 5th, he turned into a ground ball pitcher and ended up with 16 K's.  There was one fly ball the entire game.

Too bad the other perfect game was tainted or it would have been back to back perfect games.  Has that feat been accomplished yet?
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Dryden on 08/09/04, 01:26:05 PM
Just finished a 25 K 2 hitter, Nolan against the Mets.  All the non-Ks and hits came in the 7th.  Only threw 3 balls through 6.

The place I keep running into trouble is that uncertain point at which a pitcher's speed starts to drop, but you don't know for sure that it's coming so you don't alter your pitching style to fit.  Have to work on that.

I'm positive this can be done, though.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: _13eoWuLF__ on 08/09/04, 02:09:05 PM
hey i wanna belive but that sounds very very hard to do. seeing as even though you can easily set the computer up for a k the sheer number of pitchers is going to put your pitch count way up there even if every batter requires only 3 pitches. a more likey complete game will come with alot of grounders saving your stamina. That still would be sweet if someone did throw a game liek that even vs the computer.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: Dryden on 08/09/04, 02:39:00 PM
Of course it's easier to throw one against the computer than a decent human opponent, but the computer provides a baseline - it's the same for everyone.

Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: JoeDirt on 08/09/04, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Dryden on 08/09/04, 02:39:00 PM
Of course it's easier to throw one against the computer than a decent human opponent, but the computer provides a baseline - it's the same for everyone.

DJ Magic Mike used to provide a pretty solid baseline, too.
Title: Re:The "Perfect" Perfect Game (Curve Style)
Post by: capt_taco on 08/10/04, 04:55:00 AM
I've pitched bunches of perfect games before, but most were shortened by my offense leading to a slaughter. by the 4th or 5th inning.

I've done it for a full 9 innings several times, and more than once with Saberhagen or Clemens going complete games. But I've never struck out more than about 15-16 batters with one pitcher. Eventually they just get too slow to strike anyone out. Altohugh I could Saberhagen continuing to get K's for 9 innings, because of his funky pitching style.

JoeDirt: F.Y.I., Granite Bay is near Sacramento. I think that makes three of us now (Me, Kerfield and Noah G.) that are stranded up here in Northern California. If too many more show up, we may have our own tournament on our hands!