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Title: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 10:31:25 AM
I am new to the forums and need help. I cannot find any playable RBI 3 roms for my RockNES emulator on my PC. Every single RBI 3 rom that I download has no video, the screen is just black.  Help?????? !!!!!!           
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: TempoGL on 05/29/11, 10:34:33 AM
just a guess, but is it one of those ROMs that are really tough to emulate?

awesome user name, btw.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 10:36:36 AM
thanks, Its my knickname.  and i dont know about the rom, all that i know is that I cannot play RBI 3 and I am starting to tweak-out over it....My only other option is to hunt down an old NES and buy the dam game
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Gantry on 05/29/11, 10:55:21 AM
I have a feeling there was a bad RBI3 ROM and every other ROM site stole a copy of the same ROM and never tested.  Obviously this doesn't help you, but an explanation nonetheless...
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Gantry on 05/29/11, 10:55:38 AM
And welcome Bundy!
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 11:34:44 AM
oh ok thanks.. also thanks for the warm welcome.  I am a HUGE RBI baseball fan. RBI 2&3 mostly...I just wish I could find a good RBI 3 rom
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 05/29/11, 06:13:13 PM
Wow, rare to find people who prefer 2 & 3. Search bit torrent for a legit copy of the ROM, or try nestopia, which is really the best emulator out there. Mybe RockNES has trouble with it.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 08:01:28 PM
ok will do...and by the way, go Brewers!! I am from WI myself
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 08:10:57 PM
I have problems downloading Nestopia without gettting spammed....I have windows Vista, is that the problem?    Anyone know where to find a playable RBI 3 copy??
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 05/29/11, 08:15:57 PM
You can find a legitimate copy on my site here:
http://www.rbibaseball.us/downloads

Also, what part of WI are you from?
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 05/29/11, 08:57:03 PM
I actually figured out the problem...RockNES wasnt strong enough to handle the RBI3 rom or something...I just used JNES and it worked fine...thanks for all of your help guys!!! I am glad that I have found you all   lol       ANd I live about an hour north of Milwaukee and an hour south of Greeen Bay, right in the middle in a town called Fond du Lac
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Attezz on 05/29/11, 09:28:33 PM
I feel like I've had a pretty good beer from Fond du Lac...but I may just be confusing it with La Fin Du Monde.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 05/29/11, 11:53:53 PM
Yeah, La Fin Do Monde (one of my all-time faves) is brewed in Canda...

I know of Fondy...they were in our division back when I played high school football (I did not score 4 TD in a single game).  I pass through there on my way up north to visit my family (I grew up in Kimberly).
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 05/30/11, 12:37:33 AM
What do you like about RBI 3 vs. the original?
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Reds on 05/30/11, 08:57:15 AM
The naked women
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: ultimate7 on 05/30/11, 03:47:56 PM
I don't think Reds understood the question
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: BeefMaster on 05/31/11, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: Turd on 05/30/11, 12:37:33 AM
What do you like about RBI 3 vs. the original?

My answers to this:

- All 26 teams, plus all those division winners (even though some of them had some missing players)
- Full 24-man rosters
- DH support
- 7-game series with changing home teams (I think)
- Jumping/diving (I'll acknowledge this isn't a plus in everyone's eyes)
- An "end boss" team
- Home run distances
- Configurable hard mode (which was slightly harder, although still not a tremendous challenge) and mercy rule

Not all of them are hugely important, but they're all reasons why I prefer RBI 3 to the original.  Some of those have been added to the original with hacks, but they weren't native to the game, and they obviously weren't around when I was forming my opinion on the games as a kid.

Random observation - In addition to the DH, RBI 2/3 have positions for players (just IF/OF/C, nothing more specific).  I've always assumed that having too few of a position causes an increase in team error rate, but I haven't really noticed it in practice.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 05/31/11, 01:24:48 PM
Thos are all very nice, but to me the graphics on the later versions sucked.  Perhaps for nothing more than nostalgia, I prefer the simple, fat pudgy player models from the original.

Combine all that with the added features, and yeah, I could see it being a great game...
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: The Greeter on 06/02/11, 06:54:04 PM
I've got a copy of RBI3 that works.  Just tried it in NEStopia, runs fine.  Send me message with your email and I will send it to you, free of charge <grin>.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Bundy on 06/18/11, 03:15:31 PM
I agree with Beef Master 100% on why I prefer RBI 3 (and RBI2) over the first one. Now for the million $ question....Has anyone ever faced an invisible team at the end of RBI 2 or 3?   I have defetead this invisible team as a kid and never really thought much of it.. Now, when I look it up on the internet, there is no mention of such a team in any of the cheat codes or whatever...I cant remember if it was at the end of RBI3 or RBI 3...and now whenever I play and defeat the RBI 3 rom, there is no invisible team, just a TENGEN TEAM..anyone???
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Gantry on 06/20/11, 10:51:42 AM
Greeter - you can also zip the file and attach here.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: The Greeter on 06/27/11, 08:32:16 PM
Figure everyone here has plenty of original RBI (original, ROMs, etc).

But for those having trouble finding RBI2/RBI3, attached are ZIP files of each.  Run with any reasonable NES emulator.  Have tested both of these on VirtuaNES (http://virtuanes.s1.xrea.com:8080/) work fine.

Now if only we could get the graphics of RBI into some of the advance features of RBI2/RBI3........

Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Gantry on 06/27/11, 09:17:23 PM
I just realized taht I had both on the ROMs page
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: BeefMaster on 06/28/11, 10:07:21 AM
I think the ROMs page might also have one hacked by Nightwulf, in which he enabled the '85 Cardinals - their code is included in the game but they were apparently accidentally omitted from the team selection screen.

I'd note that many of the RBI 3 ROMs floating around the internet have a problem in the '87 Tigers - the power byte for Alan Trammell got screwed up and is something like 35000.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/14/11, 02:12:23 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/31/11, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: Turd on 05/30/11, 12:37:33 AM
What do you like about RBI 3 vs. the original?

My answers to this:

- All 26 teams, plus all those division winners (even though some of them had some missing players)
- Full 24-man rosters
- DH support
- 7-game series with changing home teams (I think)
- Jumping/diving (I'll acknowledge this isn't a plus in everyone's eyes)
- An "end boss" team
- Home run distances
- Configurable hard mode (which was slightly harder, although still not a tremendous challenge) and mercy rule

Not all of them are hugely important, but they're all reasons why I prefer RBI 3 to the original.  Some of those have been added to the original with hacks, but they weren't native to the game, and they obviously weren't around when I was forming my opinion on the games as a kid.

Random observation - In addition to the DH, RBI 2/3 have positions for players (just IF/OF/C, nothing more specific).  I've always assumed that having too few of a position causes an increase in team error rate, but I haven't really noticed it in practice.

I can see that. In later versions RBI 93 and 94 I liked the authorized stadiums as well as batting stances. I remember Rickey Henderson's crouch. Also for single player a full season and 7 game playoffs and world series. Plus specific fielding positions (i.e. 1B, SS, LF) don't know if it matted, cause I don't remember or know of any defensive ratings. I also like the fact you can change the batting line up and make substitutions before the game starts.

But in the Genesis versions (3,4, 93 and 94) the camera for defensive purposes was horrible. The zoom in effect did not improve it from the NES versions. In fact it was a detriment.

Though I like the original RBI, only having 4 pitchers was not a good look. When a chunk of the game is predicated on hitting power, and a lot of the pitchers lack stamina and it bothers me. Especially when playing back-to-back and one starter becomes inactive. I mean in RBI 3 I've thrown complete games with Dave Stewart.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/18/11, 09:48:06 AM
What do you mean they lack stamina?  In a normal game of 1 SP style play, the SP should make it to 6 innings of pitching on average, maybe less or more depending on your usage of fastballs and sinkers, and amount of hits you're giving up.  So, for that style of play, which is how most of us play on rbibaseball.us, losing a SP in the second game doesn't even matter because you can only use one per game anyways.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/19/11, 07:49:11 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/18/11, 09:48:06 AM
What do you mean they lack stamina?  In a normal game of 1 SP style play, the SP should make it to 6 innings of pitching on average, maybe less or more depending on your usage of fastballs and sinkers, and amount of hits you're giving up.  So, for that style of play, which is how most of us play on rbibaseball.us, losing a SP in the second game doesn't even matter because you can only use one per game anyways.

Well in comparison to RB2/3 (as it was asked why one liked those better). I played RBI 2 first as a kid, then RBI 3 I believe, before the original RBI. I hadn't played any until a couple of years ago when my dude got them onto a hacked PSP. So in RBI 2/3 I knew how to work starting pitchers, and getting into the 7th while still being effective was almost a given.

In the original RBI I can remember getting that far with Saberhagen and Clemens. Also in RBI there's a mode where you can play all 9 teams, but SP can't be used in back to back games, which in essence leaves you with 3 pitchers per game. And when starters (to me)  don't go as deep as RBI 2/3 it irritates me as sometimes I like to bring in a pitcher to face 1 or 2 hitters, or for a matchup. And I've learned to throw a myriad of pitches (fastball, cutter, slider, curve, change etc.), so I like to pitch, especially to "dangerous" hitters.

I used to play a style a kid with a neighbour who's rule every pitch must me thrown over the plate. That was for RBI 93 or 94 on the Genesis. I wasn't a fan of that cause I'd swing at everything knowing the pitch was going to be over the plate. Once you're timing was down, it became easy.

So as much as lack RBI it's not the sistein chapel (Mario Bros. 3 is) that some make it out to be. Is it great? Yes. A classic? Yes. Without flaws? No. Like I said I despised all of RBI versions (3,4, 93 & 94) on the Genesis cause of the zoom when playing defense. From short clips on youtube Famista 2009 and 2011 looks like the closest to the original RBI with a modern day look. Translate it to English, put MLB stadiums and teams in it, and you may have something.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/19/11, 10:26:13 PM
As much as I disagree with you (the first one for me is almost the holy grail, save for a few shortcomings), especially with the 30 team ROM...I'm intrigued by RBI3.  It seems pretty fun, and if we had the right information, I'd be willing to write an editor for it.  I found some data in a few old threads, but not enough for me to want to get started just yet.  If we can get the locations for the pitcher/batter data, as well as team name icons and uniform colors, writing an editor is a snap.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/21/11, 02:28:09 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/19/11, 10:26:13 PM
As much as I disagree with you (the first one for me is almost the holy grail, save for a few shortcomings), especially with the 30 team ROM...I'm intrigued by RBI3.  It seems pretty fun, and if we had the right information, I'd be willing to write an editor for it.  I found some data in a few old threads, but not enough for me to want to get started just yet.  If we can get the locations for the pitcher/batter data, as well as team name icons and uniform colors, writing an editor is a snap.

I wouldn't argue the original is the best in the series (some have said RBI 3), when I said holy grail I was referring the the NES as a whole, and that honour goes to Super Mario Bros. 3 as I mentioned. It is the Sisteine Chapel of video games!

Now as much as I like the original these are things it lack or could be changed/improved. I'm not going to compare it to PS3/360 modern games (that's insane with technology enhancements, but the modern Famista on the DS doesn't look that bad, but it's all in Japanese), but to the NES/Genesis standard which is somewhat of that era.

-Full 24 player rosters (having 10 pitchers on a staff in great for matchups and when you wanna think innings ahead like Tony LaRussa, hell I could live with 8 )
-DH (pitchers hitting are worthless), at least the AL had this, and the NL did for games played in AL parks
-Switch hitters - I think hacked versions have this, but not the original.... and on what planet was George Brett a right handed hitter???
-Stadiums (wasn't introduced 'til RBI 93 or 94), and I've seen a hacked New Yankee Stadium and Wrigley Field for the original which is great, but I'd like Fenway (green monster), or even to hit one into McCovey cove in San Francisco...... in  93 or 94 I could at least hit one into the waterfalls in Kansas City, give each team their home park
-Full season and playoffs (didn't come until RBI 93 I think)
-Home Run distances (was mentioned by a previous poster)
-Jumping & diving (was mentioned by a previous poster)
-Batting stances (I remember Rickey Henderson's crouch from RBI 93 or 94)
-Defence capabilities (read it was apparent in Famista 94 with shoulder for arm strength and def for range, and the new DS versions 2009 & 11 have it as well with "Arm Strength" & "Fielding Range" - all hitters aren't rated the same why should fielders?)


Now some of these were absent from RBI 3 as well. And as the series went on (3,4, 93 & 94 on the Genesis) and SNES it got worse and couldn't match up to the original, it had had certain features/aspects I wish the original had. I like the fact that you've been able to expand to a 30 man roster, but persnally I could live with 16 for the original 8 from the AL and NL and make "all time" teams. Like the Atari version, but they didn't get the rosters right, well not how I want them anyway.Houston had absolutely no business being in it.

Also RBI is predicated predominantly on power. Even you started a thread trying to figure out how to make contact hitters more viable and effective (try low 800's on power and very low contact... meaning they won't go deep consistantly, but they never lose power, just a thought).

Just my opinion.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/21/11, 04:07:16 PM
I think you already stated your opinions in a previous post. I was simply stating mine that RBI1 for me takes the cake as the holy grail, especially now that it has 30 teams.  It's missing a few minor things, mainly things that none of the other versions had either, so for my money, it's the original...but to each his own.  If you had read my post carefully, I was saying that I was actually intrigued by RBI3, and was not putting it down.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/23/11, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/21/11, 04:07:16 PM
I think you already stated your opinions in a previous post. I was simply stating mine that RBI1 for me takes the cake as the holy grail, especially now that it has 30 teams.  It's missing a few minor things, mainly things that none of the other versions had either, so for my money, it's the original...but to each his own.  If you had read my post carefully, I was saying that I was actually intrigued by RBI3, and was not putting it down.

Yeah I did state my reasons again, but I also said I would not argue against RBI1 being the best in the series. I don't know how much weight my opinion holds as the only ones I'd really play is RBI1 & 3. I saw your 30 team ROM (which I said was great), and on youtube there are vids where someone changed the feild to look like New Yankee Stadium and Wrigley Field. Like I said I was never a fan of the other versions (on the Genesis & SNES), but they had things that RBI (and even RBI3) didn't have.

You've expanded the amount of teams and even implemented switch hitters through hacks. Now if each teams roster could be expanded I'd be happy. As well as defensive ratings and arm strength. Stadiums, batting stances etc. are all cosmetic, nothing to do with the actual game (or gameplay), but why not? I'd like to play RBI1 in different ballparks. I mean you have a 30 team ROM for 2011, wouldn't stadiums with each team be nice? And a full season with playoffs/world series is just for me personally. RBI3 didn't have those, but 93/94 versions on Genesis did and you know I'm not a big fan of those versions.

Other than that, modernly, Famista 2009 looks good, but good luck hacking that as it's in Japanese.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: BeefMaster on 07/25/11, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: thalivest on 07/23/11, 07:42:35 PM
You've expanded the amount of teams and even implemented switch hitters through hacks. Now if each teams roster could be expanded I'd be happy. As well as defensive ratings and arm strength. Stadiums, batting stances etc. are all cosmetic, nothing to do with the actual game (or gameplay), but why not? I'd like to play RBI1 in different ballparks. I mean you have a 30 team ROM for 2011, wouldn't stadiums with each team be nice? And a full season with playoffs/world series is just for me personally. RBI3 didn't have those, but 93/94 versions on Genesis did and you know I'm not a big fan of those versions.
There were rumors a few years ago that we'd actually get something like this - there was an update to the ESRB (video games ratings board) site that included among its list of upcoming filings an "RBI Baseball", written by some unknown company.  I exchanged emails with one of the guys from the development company (summarized in this blog post (http://yourfaceisasportsblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/rbi-baseball-its-backofficially.html) by some of our other forum regulars), giving us a lot of hope, but it never materialized - I never saw so much as a screenshot make it online, and after a few months of hearing nothing, I found that their website no longer made any mention of the game, and follow-up emails to the developer went unanswered.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/25/11, 09:54:53 AM
Yeah, that was supposed to be for the XBox 360, right? I remember that.  Too bad, considering they did it with Tecmo, why not RBI?
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/25/11, 09:58:21 AM
P.S. Beef, did you keep in contact with the dev you were chatting with, or did that get severed? I'd like to know if it's completely dead, or just on pause.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: BeefMaster on 07/25/11, 10:45:35 AM
I emailed the guy again after not hearing anything for awhile, and he didn't return my messages.  I'm assuming it's completely dead, although I'd love to be wrong (especially since I have now acquired an XBox 360).
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Gantry on 07/25/11, 11:03:49 AM
Their website is incredibly spartan, doesn't look like a company that is spitting out games at a high rate.  Safe to assume it's dead...
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/25/11, 02:28:16 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. That sucks.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/28/11, 08:59:24 PM
Well I did a little search. First I went to the Six Degrees Games website, which had nithing regarding RBI Baseball. In fact another site said it halted production on RBI to focus on another "All Action Sports", which Six Degrees had a link to. Anyway I furthered my search of RBI/XBox 360/PS3 and found out that Six Degrees no longer publishes it. In fact a company Take 2 which is owned by 2K Sports is now handling it.....

http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103158 (http://www.achieve360points.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103158)

Other sites have said similar things so it's rumored, not definite. I read something about this being casually mentioned on ESPN. Well as far as 2k their tennis games have been sub par, but their NBA gaames the complete opposite, as well as their NHL versions, but really wasn't feeling shooting with the analog stick. Hope the don't have that analog stick swing like The Bigs (I think it was). But I will email them and when I know something you will.....

Well if the site gets fixed. The original site with FAQs/ROMs etc. doesn't come up. I have to take a back way and click  on link. Can that be fixed.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/29/11, 10:38:52 AM
That actually is really promising. I know the Six Degrees version had people from the original RBI dev team on there, so I hope 2K follows suit.  I'd pay for an update ever year if they did it right...
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: BeefMaster on 07/29/11, 10:55:31 AM
Nice work, thalivest, although I did notice that link was a couple years old... it'd be interesting to know whether there's still active development.

2K was the publisher for the American ports of MLB Power Pros - I have the '08 version on the Wii, which I liked quite a bit.  Maybe I'll also fire off an email to Take 2 or 2K... couldn't hurt to show them that more than one person is interested in eventually getting a new RBI Baseball.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/29/11, 11:02:09 AM
We should just get a couple of nerds together and rewrite it ourselves.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/29/11, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/29/11, 11:02:09 AM
We should just get a couple of nerds together and rewrite it ourselves.

I'd do the Atari/Arcade version. I just need 16 teams for the original leagues....
-AL (Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees, Indians, Athletics, White Sox, Tigers, Twins)
-NL (Cubs, Cards, Pirates, Phillies, Pirates, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Giants)

Cause the didn't get the rosters right the 1st time, plus Houston had no business being in it. And maybe a couple more for All-Star, Negro Leagues etc., like RBI versions had with division winners. Anyway....

http://www.2ksports.com/advocate/ (http://www.2ksports.com/advocate/)

You can send questions and inquires here. The regular "contact us" at 2ksports.com may give an automated response, but like Beef said, the more emails they receive, they'll know there's a demand for it and people are serious. Maybe it's possible.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/29/11, 02:23:54 PM
WHat do you mean you'd do the atari/arcade version? I'm saying we should rewrite the whole game in a modern programming language and have all 30 teams (or the ability to add teams/players/etc). 
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Attezz on 07/29/11, 02:27:29 PM
I think he means he'd recreate the game as an arcade or atari version.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/30/11, 01:42:27 AM
Quote from: Turd on 07/29/11, 02:23:54 PM
WHat do you mean you'd do the atari/arcade version? I'm saying we should rewrite the whole game in a modern programming language and have all 30 teams (or the ability to add teams/players/etc).

There's another version to RBI which had legendary players, Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle (Yankees), Mays, McCovey, Hubbell (Giants), Koufax, Campanella, Snider (Dodgers) etc. It's basically the same game, but with legends. I always liked that. So you could have legendary matchups like Pujols vs Mathewson  or Musial vs Halladay for eg. I just mean the legendary/all time teams. I'd do the rosters for those.

Really, I'm just lazy. With a 30 team league you have to keep updating year to year and when players get traded or sign elswhere. The only thing I'd have to do now is add Pujols to the Cards and they're set. I mean Rickey Henderson (Athletics) or Hank Aaaron (Braves) will never have to be changed. I'd like a 30 teams, but I'm too lazy to look up 24 man rosters for each.  And teams like Colorado, Seattle, Florida, Tampa even Toronto and Texas haven't been around long enough to create all time teams. They could have teams but they wouldn't match up with Yankees, A's, Giants etc., they'd get destroyed.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/30/11, 08:46:42 AM
Heh, yes, I know about that version. I was just more wondering why 16 teams. I like redoing the rosters each year. Either way, a complete rewrite would be awesome. Too bad I have a full-time job. Plus kids, no way I'd have time to pull it off.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/30/11, 02:24:49 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/30/11, 08:46:42 AM
Heh, yes, I know about that version. I was just more wondering why 16 teams. I like redoing the rosters each year. Either way, a complete rewrite would be awesome. Too bad I have a full-time job. Plus kids, no way I'd have time to pull it off.

16 teams... just when MLB formed in the early 1900's those were the teams that made up the league....
-AL (Orioles, Red Sox, Yankees, Indians, Athletics, White Sox, Tigers, Twins)
-NL (Cubs, Cards, Pirates, Phillies, Pirates, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Giants)

For no other purpose than that. You said you like REDOING the rosters each year, I'm different, I like HAVING THEM DONE. I just don't wanna have to do it all. I'd eventually get it done but I'd procrastinate. If you did, I'd help with a few teams, and maybe others would as well, to save you the time of looking up all the current rosters. Also in Madden they have historic teams, but I always found it laughable when I'd take ALL 49ers with Montana, Young, Rice etc. and go up against the ALL Bucs, Jaguars etc. That's just a blowout waiting to happen. I mean the ALL Yankess vs the ALL D'Backs, really? It's not about who wins, it's how much do the Yanks beat them by. The 16 teams is more for me personally. I'd still play a modern RBI with 30 teams as well.

I'm not the most savvy when it comes developing video games, but I was under the impression that a remake wouldn't be too hard, as the original blueprint is there. Just adding a little here and there, tweaking a little here and there. I mean adding replay for instance with different camera angles shouldn't be hard, as most games (Madden, FIFA etc.) have them. So why not incorporate it into RBI, if it's a staple (not an exceotion) in most modern games for the last 8-10 yrs or so. As far as gameplay, the simplicity is what made it great. A couple of minor adjustments. Keep the essence of the original game.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/30/11, 05:29:47 PM
I did Arcade Rosters for 10 teams on an Arcade II ROM (Twins, Whitesox, Orioles, Indians, Pirates, Phillies, Tigers), they are all pre 88 rosters like the original Arcade teams
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 07/31/11, 05:22:27 PM
All I could find from 2K Sports is this forum at 2K, where it was rumored to be for XBox Live and PlayStation Network as a download, which 2K/Take 2 have neither conformed or denied.

http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269895 (http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269895)

For what it's worth this is what the modern Famista (only in Japan) looks like...
Pro Yakyuu Famista 2011 3DS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Hhn_4txnI#) -For 3DS

And without 3D....
[Minna no NC] Pro Yakyuu Famista DS 2010 - Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ28zlALStE#ws) -

A possibility of what it may look like if modernized.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 07/31/11, 05:29:52 PM
Iveseen those before. I think these games look awesome. They havealot of the RBI flavor with updated graphics. Not too updated, but more modern nonetheless. The guys still cry and run away if they get thrown out. Too bad I can't read an of that Chinese.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 08/02/11, 02:43:35 PM
Cinese?!? It's Japanese, are you any better with that? Actually there's somewhat of a translation at gamefaqs.com. Anyway this is an email I got from 2K Soprts....
"At present we have no information regarding any future titles."

Whatever that means. No information regarding RBI specifically, or any future games from 2K. Or are they just not divulging any information. I'm not completely sure but this is what their response was.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 08/05/11, 07:10:28 PM
Well here's a translation guide from Famista 2009....
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/955682-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/faqs/56603 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/955682-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/faqs/56603)

Now if you can figure out how to change the players/teams to MLB ones and put MLB stadiums instead of Japanese ones, we'll have something. One thing I know is the Pacific League is like the AL (with DH) and the Central League is like the NL (no DH).
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: Turd on 08/05/11, 11:21:16 PM
What system  is that for?
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 08/06/11, 02:01:56 PM
What I could find out was that Famista 2011 was released for the Nintendo 3DS in Japan. As for 2009 (and 2010 for that matter) it was released on the DS in Japan, not sure if there was a North Amrican or Europe release. But I found some roms just by googleing it...

2009
http://www.romsite.net/3607-Pro-Yakyuu-Famista-DS-2009-(JP)-nds.html (http://www.romsite.net/3607-Pro-Yakyuu-Famista-DS-2009-(JP)-nds.html)
http://ndsdl.com/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/ (http://ndsdl.com/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009/)
http://www.nasrom.com/2009/04/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009-japan.html (http://www.nasrom.com/2009/04/3607-pro-yakyuu-famista-ds-2009-japan.html)


Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 08/14/11, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: Turd on 07/19/11, 10:26:13 PM
As much as I disagree with you (the first one for me is almost the holy grail, save for a few shortcomings), especially with the 30 team ROM...I'm intrigued by RBI3.  It seems pretty fun, and if we had the right information, I'd be willing to write an editor for it.  I found some data in a few old threads, but not enough for me to want to get started just yet.  If we can get the locations for the pitcher/batter data, as well as team name icons and uniform colors, writing an editor is a snap.

Well I came across this....

http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-93/screenshots/gameShotId,453029/ (http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-93/screenshots/gameShotId,453029/) -don't know waht "D" or "S" denotes
http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-94/screenshots/gameShotId,405645/ (http://www.mobygames.com/game/genesis/rbi-baseball-94/screenshots/gameShotId,405645/) -RBI 94 player cards (also in Famista 2009), don't know what "S" means

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot1.png (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot1.png) -RBI 94
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot2.png (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/genesis/images/759screenshot2.png) -RBI 94

It should be similar to RBI 3 as the speed rating is all the same (from 0-20). And in RBI 2 Rickey Henderson's spd was 20 and was 18 in RBI 3. You can see what you can do with that, but personally I would like it if you (or anyone) could hack Famista 2009. What I can tell you from that is their ratings look like....

HITTERS
Contact (0-100)
Power (0-100)
Bunt (0-100)
Speed (0-100)

DEFENSE
Arm Strength
Fielding Range
Feilding Range & 2nd Position

PITCHERS
Velocity (km/h)
Curve L
Curve R
Drop
Stamina
*and I think there's another category*

Although their speed is in km/h that's simple math converting to mph. Also their field dimensions are meters not feet, but again that;s just math. I think ther are 12 teams/stadiums (from Japanese leagues). So if you could get 30 teams in RBI, I assume it's possible here. And if MLB stadiums could be put in place of Japanese ones, that would make me happy. I don't know if this is possible, but only if we could speak Japanese.
Title: Re: WHy is every RBI 3 rom "blacked out" ??
Post by: thalivest on 08/27/11, 01:15:21 AM
Quote from: Turd on 07/18/11, 09:48:06 AM
What do you mean they lack stamina?  In a normal game of 1 SP style play, the SP should make it to 6 innings of pitching on average, maybe less or more depending on your usage of fastballs and sinkers, and amount of hits you're giving up.  So, for that style of play, which is how most of us play on rbibaseball.us, losing a SP in the second game doesn't even matter because you can only use one per game anyways.

Nah it's not me. I've been running tests the last couple of days. In RBI 3 I put up these #'s.....

Bob Welch OAK (W 5-1) vs '83 BAL - 8.1 IP, 8 H, 1 ER, 2 K's
(Pitched 8 shutout innings before giving up a run in the 9th, then Eckersley finished up getting last 2 outs)

Dave Stewart OAK (W 3-1 [10]) vs CIN - 10 IP, 7 H, 1 ER, 4 K's
(Yes a Jack Morris-esque effort. Pitched 7 shutout innings before surrendering only run in the 8th. R. Henderson tied it in the top of the 9th with RBI triple, and Steinbach hit a 2 run HR, after a Harold Baines single to give A's lead in the 10th. Stewart was only throwing in the mid 50's in the 9th and 10th, but was still effective, only gave up 1 hit. Retired the side in order in the 10th, while last 2 innings he faced, Morris, Larkin, Sabo, Davis & O'Neill)

Dave Stewart OAK (W 10-2) vs NL - 9 IP, 3 H, 2 ER
(Gave up a 1st inning solo HR to Sabo, then did not allow another hit until Dawson hit a solo shot in the 8th, retiring 21 straight and 22 of the first 23. Both HR were mistakes, not hitting my location. Ozzie Smith beat out an infield single to short for the 3rd "official" hit. Will Clark actually doubled with 2 outs in the 9th, but was thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, it's a hit but RBI doesn't count it as such).

Bob Welch OAK (W 8-0) vs CIN - 9 IP, 7 H, 4 K's
Funny thing was I scored all 8 runs in the first inning. R. Henderson led of game with a double, and scored, then came up again with the score 6-0 and hit a 436 ft blast just to the left of the scoreboard in center.
As for RBI....

Saberhagen is effective, but by 4th (5th is a stretch) becomes much less effective, but did throw 2 gems for me....
vs SF 6 IP 1 ER (gave up 2 runs, but one was unearned)
vs CAL 7 IP, 2 ER

Doyle Alexander pitched well into the the 6th leading Minnesota 10-2, but by then was throwing in the 40's so Morris came in, had a horrible 7th surrendering home runs to Laudner and Gaetti. Struggled through the 8th with both Puckett and Hrbek flying out deep to center field but didn't give up a run. Allowed a hit in 9th, but DP took care of that making the final 10-6.

Clemens can also get into the 5th for me. But when there are only 4 pitchers and some (Righetti) are complete ass, it irritates me. In one game I led CAL 4-1 going into bottom of the 3rd. By the start of the 7th I was down 14-6. Somehow I came back to win 22-17, George Bell broke the 17 all tie with a 3 run blast in top of the 9th. Key was effective til 3rd/4th inning and Henke was lights out in 8th and 9th, but Righetti again was complete ass. And with a capital ASS!!!!!!!

Now this is only based on a handful of pitchers so it not the most accurate assessment, nor is it a complete science.