One aspect of my ROMs I want to improve/tweak/etc is that of contact hitters. Guys who hit into the 300s but don't possess the power to go yard on a regular basis. I'm conducting my own research, but I also thought I'd open up a discussion to see what you original ROM guys thought from your experiences...do you have a guy who consistently hits for you on contact, but rarely hits HRs? I'm sure straight pitch guys would have some good insight into this because its all about contact...
I'm trying to figure out what a good power level is that lets an occasional ball go deep, but keeps them in the park. Something with enough ball speed to send it past an infielder...
220; 221.
That's just silly. 200 is way lower than even the pitcher power in the original game. Something tells me you aren't taking this seriously.
Whatever it takes...
Quote from: Turd on 07/14/11, 11:38:26 AM
One aspect of my ROMs I want to improve/tweak/etc is that of contact hitters. Guys who hit into the 300s but don't possess the power to go yard on a regular basis. I'm conducting my own research, but I also thought I'd open up a discussion to see what you original ROM guys thought from your experiences...do you have a guy who consistently hits for you on contact, but rarely hits HRs? I'm sure straight pitch guys would have some good insight into this because its all about contact...
I'm trying to figure out what a good power level is that lets an occasional ball go deep, but keeps them in the park. Something with enough ball speed to send it past an infielder...
It's really tricky because there's really no "base hit" settings, power or nothing. So you are basically stuck with a super low contact and possibly giving them more speed than they deserve, far from ideal but the closest you can come.
Yeah, I know...that's why am trying to find as good of a number as I can...
I think speed and low contact (while inflating high contact for bigger power guys) is the best way, though perhaps you can find a "sweet spot" number. Look at guys in RBI 1 whose hitting style matches what you want and duplicate.
Looking at some of the lineups, I'm thinking 815-835 may be that "sweet spot" - Keith Hernandez is an 843 and he's got a good blend of pop with the occasional dinger but not too many...
Yes, that is what I was posting this for, to see if any of you guys had recommendations on original ROM players you think fits this bill...
I wonder if there's something in the code that indicates what a good number is for this...I'll see what I can get out of that...
Quote from: Gantry on 07/14/11, 12:26:14 PM
Looking at some of the lineups, I'm thinking 815-835 may be that "sweet spot" - Keith Hernandez is an 843 and he's got a good blend of pop with the occasional dinger but not too many...
I think that fits in with what I was thinking as well...
Yep Brenley is an 820 & Spilman is an 830, so that range with low contact would make a solid player without a ton of dingers.
low 800s (800-810)
It's tricky, but then again RBI baseball is not real MLB Baseball, and is all about the long ball.
I think you can compensate a bit by giving them a little more speed with just enough power to go yard every once in a while.
Thinking like T.Herr.
Quote from: Turd on 07/14/11, 11:38:26 AM
One aspect of my ROMs I want to improve/tweak/etc is that of contact hitters. Guys who hit into the 300s but don't possess the power to go yard on a regular basis. I'm conducting my own research, but I also thought I'd open up a discussion to see what you original ROM guys thought from your experiences...do you have a guy who consistently hits for you on contact, but rarely hits HRs? I'm sure straight pitch guys would have some good insight into this because its all about contact...
I'm trying to figure out what a good power level is that lets an occasional ball go deep, but keeps them in the park. Something with enough ball speed to send it past an infielder...
780-810 with a contact level of 18 an lower. Not empirical since I have seen some weird things with guys with +30 contact and 790 range power. I would never say they are consistent in watch mode, since their numbers reflect that, but if they have speed (+138), then they can be really productive, when they produce. Contact hitters will piss you off in the end. Power is paramount. Good contact hitters (watch mode) who have no speed kill you on the base paths, they get thrown out on doubles, going first to third, second to home and second to third. This is not an opinion, I have the numbers to back up that assertion. Long story short, ditch your project meathead...
The flaw in that assessment is that "contact" really has nothing to do with actual contact (ie... like it does in baseball stars).
The only thing a contact tells you in RBI is how much weaker a ball will be hit if not on the sweet spot.
ie.. A power guy with 850 power and 50 contact will ALWAYs outperform a batter with 799 power (regardless of his contact rating).
"Contact" in RBI is really just a measure of consistent power numbers.
pat sheridan is another good example, althogh he may have too much power. gary pettis/dan gladden --they are speedy though.
Quote from: Stock on 07/14/11, 09:46:14 PM
It's tricky, but then again RBI baseball is not real MLB Baseball, and is all about the long ball.
I think you can compensate a bit by giving them a little more speed with just enough power to go yard every once in a while.
Thinking like T.Herr.
I would agree power/HR does take precedence over anything in RBI Baseball. I was thinking Alan Trammell, he's a good contact with power but not monstrous power, and he was around 830 I believe. Trying to relate it to other versions of RBI doesn't help as they don't use the same rating, it usually goes from 1-100.
BTW, Rickey Henderson from RBI 3 would eat Alan Trammell. Trammell is good, but if Henderson from RBI 3 was in RBI, he'd be a problem. I mean a .325 avg with more power and speed than Trammell. Contact, power and speed. One of the best all around players in the series.
You guys are pretty much confirming my assertions on this matter, so thanks for the replies. Darky, I think I shall not ditch my project, as I have been doing it for a few years now and I really enjoy it, but thanks anyways.
Those all sound like good suggestions - I would've suggested around the same power rating. I also do like Stock's suggestion about giving them a little extra speed to help them get infield hits (raising their batting average), although that has the negative of making them a bit more unrealistic once they're on base.
Ahem, I was the one who originally brought up extra speed not that doofus Stock. Please acknowledge and apologize at once...
Bump for Beefy's apology...
Already did this for the all-time fantasy RBI draft over 3 years ago.
http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=19222.msg438621#msg438621 (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=19222.msg438621#msg438621)
Gantry - I am sorry you are so desperate for an apology.
Accepted...
It took a strong man to admit that, Beef