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Title: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: capt_taco on 08/12/04, 08:29:34 AM
Since everyone was white in RBI, and my baseball knowledg was still far from complete, I was very surprised when I eventually found out certain RBI players were black guys. Among them:

1. Lou Whitaker
2. Andre Dawson
3. Donnie Moore
4. Dave Henderson
5. Kirby Puckett
6. Harold Baines
7. George Bell

Anyone else remember the same thing? If so, for whom?
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Gantry on 08/12/04, 08:48:03 AM
I personally followed baseball around the time of RBI, so I knew who most of the players were.  I think I always assumed Rupperto was white until I researched his legend page (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/heroes/ruppert.shtml) though, only guy I can think of...
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeefMaster on 08/12/04, 08:49:45 AM
You didn't know that a guy named "Andre" was black?!

I'd probably vote for Donnie Moore.  He was dead by the time I started really following baseball, so I'd never seen him play.

This reminds me of the "Reggie Cleveland Group", an idea started by Bill Simmons - guys who you think they're black when you hear their name but aren't.  Marcus Giles and Khalil Greene are prominent current members.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Mike D. on 08/12/04, 09:08:32 AM
I partied with Khalil Green at Clemson not too long ago.  He doesn't have much of a problem picking up chicks, to put it mildly.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: fightonusc on 08/12/04, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: Mike D. on 08/12/04, 09:08:32 AM
I partied with Khalil Green at Clemson not too long ago.  He doesn't have much of a problem picking up chicks, to put it mildly.

So, you're saying he's gay?
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BDawk on 08/12/04, 11:51:45 AM
Like my boy tells me...
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Dryden on 08/12/04, 12:20:51 PM
How about the poster child for this, Troy O'Leary?
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: fknmclane on 08/12/04, 12:40:59 PM
Dude, every RBI player is white.  I'm not really sure what you guys are talking about.  Fuckin weirdos.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 08/12/04, 02:42:28 PM
just outta curiosity taco, did you also think that every player was grossly overweight??
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: GDavis on 08/12/04, 02:48:05 PM
I was surprised when I found out that Gary Carter was black.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BDawk on 08/12/04, 03:06:08 PM
Mookie Wilson is black????
Whaaa??
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: capt_taco on 08/12/04, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: OzzieLongBall on 08/12/04, 02:42:28 PM
just outta curiosity taco, did you also think that every player was grossly overweight??
Well, not so much... although the RBI characters were pretty accurate for Puckett and Gwynn.

And to whoever else it was up there, how the hell would I know "Andre" was a black guy's name? I was something like 8 years old. I suppose I also should've known "Weinberg" or "goldstein" would be Jewish names.. Yeesh.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Jawls on 08/12/04, 05:24:18 PM
imagine the shock of finding out that real baseball bats aren't curved and colored.

Edit - Remoed monster-sized sig pic...
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeefMaster on 08/12/04, 05:46:11 PM
Sorry, capt_taco, that was me - I just thought it was funny, and of course you're right.  No offense was intended.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: nightwulf on 08/12/04, 05:48:36 PM
Uh, could we not attach pictures to every post that have no relevance? Particularly when they're that big ...

Nightwulf
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Gantry on 08/12/04, 05:56:55 PM
QuoteUh, could we not attach pictures to every post that have no relevance? Particularly when they're that big ...

Agreed...  Some attachment pics are fine in small doses.  But super-size pics are not going to fly unless they are relevant to the discussion.  No offense...

The pic has been removed....
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 08/12/04, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: capt_taco on 08/12/04, 08:29:34 AM
Since everyone was white in RBI, and my baseball knowledg was still far from complete, I was very surprised when I eventually found out certain RBI players were black guys. Among them:

1. Lou Whitaker
2. Andre Dawson
3. Donnie Moore
4. Dave Henderson
5. Kirby Puckett
6. Harold Baines
7. George Bell

Anyone else remember the same thing? If so, for whom?
I'm speechless, you didn't know who any of these guys were?  Am I just getting old?
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: capt_taco on 08/13/04, 02:14:46 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/12/04, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: capt_taco on 08/12/04, 08:29:34 AM
I'm speechless, you didn't know who any of these guys were?  Am I just getting old?
Well, I'd heard of most of these guys but never really seen them or noticed whether they were white or black, I guess. I was into baseball as much as the next kid; I don't know, maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 08/13/04, 09:34:59 AM
Taco I totally understand where you're coming from... i was THREE years old when RBI was released, and grew up playing the game with little more knowledge than the New York Mets team (who happen to be in the game)...  I too remember being caught off-guard the first time I saw that some of these players were black.. I mean it isn't rational to assume that everyone in that game is white, but i was a freakin little kid... it wasn't rational that I buried my parents car keys either.. your point is well-taken, although it was really too long ago for me to remember who specifically jolted me by not being white..
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: capt_taco on 08/14/04, 05:42:51 AM
I still think Whitaker was the biggest surprise for me, since the first four letters of his name are the first four letters of "W-H-I-T-E."

Yeah, it's silly, but then again so are a lot of things little kids think.

For example, to this day, when I think of McGwire, Canseco, Valenzuela or Saberhagen, I sometimes envision the six-letter names McGwir, Cansco, Vlnzla and Sbrhgn. Whatever.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Baines on 08/14/04, 11:26:45 AM
QuoteI partied with Khalil Green at Clemson not too long ago.  He doesn't have much of a problem picking up chicks, to put it mildly.

I was at the Reds-Padres game last night and he doesn't have much of a problem singlehandedly destroying the Reds either.

Also getting back to the names, we were talking about how for the longest time we never knew Danny Graves was Vietnamese.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: fknmclane on 08/14/04, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: Baines on 08/14/04, 11:26:45 AM
QuoteI partied with Khalil Green at Clemson not too long ago.  He doesn't have much of a problem picking up chicks, to put it mildly.

I was at the Reds-Padres game last night and he doesn't have much of a problem singlehandedly destroying the Reds either.

Also getting back to the names, we were talking about how for the longest time we never knew Danny Graves was Vietnamese.

Actually, Baines, Graves is half Filipino.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Vitb6 on 08/15/04, 12:00:33 AM
Donnie Moore was black?!?!  Damn, seriously never knew that.  Didn't think that black people commited suicide.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Jawls on 08/15/04, 12:38:13 AM
hey guys, sorry for the jumbo-tron sized picture, it was actually a mistake. i apologize. i had meant to put a different one in. ....ah, fuck it.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Baines on 08/15/04, 10:50:57 AM
QuoteActually, Baines, Graves is half Filipino.

Didn't know that.  Actually I think I had always just seen where he was born in Vietnam and assumed.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: TβG on 08/17/04, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Vitb6 on 08/15/04, 12:00:33 AM
Donnie Moore was black?!?!  Damn, seriously never knew that.  Didn't think that black people commited suicide.


hey, whether we're black or white, brown or yellow, we all bleed the same blood, right donnie?    ...donnie?  DONNIE!!!
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Flood on 11/09/04, 08:14:38 AM
I saw a picture of Pettis a couple weeks ago...and the fucker was black!!!  I had no idea...I had always assumed he was white.  
But I'm still not gonna let the cheesedick hit.  
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 11/16/04, 02:00:21 PM
Bump for BeeJay, see the original list, to me, unbelievable
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:11:57 PM
That is pretty ignorant not to realize that Pettis was black, I mean, just look at his speed on the basepaths.....brings up another interesting trivia question:

Fastest white player in the game??

Gotta be Kirk Gibson hands down
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: JoeDirt on 11/16/04, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:11:57 PM
That is pretty ignorant not to realize that Pettis was black, I mean, just look at his speed on the basepaths.....brings up another interesting trivia question:

Fastest white player in the game??

Gotta be Kirk Gibson hands down

Surely (Shirley) you don't think Gibson is faster than Coleman???
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: defen on 11/16/04, 02:15:16 PM
I think Trammell is the same speed as KG, as well.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: what_foul_pole on 11/16/04, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:11:57 PM
That is pretty ignorant not to realize that Pettis was black, I mean, just look at his speed on the basepaths.....brings up another interesting trivia question:

Fastest white player in the game??

Gotta be Kirk Gibson hands down

LEN DYKSTRA
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:17:04 PM
Coleman ain't white there kiiiiid.....
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: defen on 11/16/04, 02:18:03 PM
a winner is you.

i think it's:
dykstra
gladden
trammell + gibby
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: JoeDirt on 11/16/04, 02:18:47 PM
Yeah but he does throw firecrackers at people...

...oops, I didn't see the "white" qualification on that one.  :(
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:24:09 PM
Posted by: defen  Posted on: Today at 02:18:03pm  
a winner is you.


nice Pro Wrestling reference.  There is no way Dykstra is faster than Gibson, and I don't think Gladden is faster than Kimmy Gibler either for that matter
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: defen on 11/16/04, 02:25:27 PM
After dykstra was posted, I looked at the stats, and I was right.

Dykstra - 142
Gladden - 140
Trammell, Gibson - 138.

Numbers don't lie.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:29:44 PM
Hey Defen, where do those numbers come from????

I honestly don't understand, can you explain??
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Bonny on 11/16/04, 02:30:21 PM
I dont know how you could not know the race of any RBIer. Unless you didnt follow baseball then, or you were 4yrs old.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: defen on 11/16/04, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:29:44 PM
Hey Defen, where do those numbers come from????

I honestly don't understand, can you explain??


The website which forums you are visiting.  The team pages have all the stats grabbed from the ROM.  
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeeJay on 11/16/04, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 11/16/04, 02:00:21 PM
Bump for BeeJay, see the original list, to me, unbelievable

Thanks for the bump ultimate.  I can't believe it either.  I'm only 23, and I remember seeing almost all of these guys play.  Guys like Pettis make sense, since most of us would have never heard of them without rbi, but Andre Dawson and Kirby Puckett?  Amazing.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: JoeDirt on 11/16/04, 02:34:52 PM
Didn't you guys collect baseball cards as a kid?  If you did during the rbi years, you'd know!
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:34:56 PM
yeah, but I am not sure they are accurate for the NES version, I really don't think that Gladden is faster than Gibson in the NES version, maybe he is faster in a 100 yard dash, but I really think that Gibson is a better baserunner, and it shows when stealing bases
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 11/16/04, 02:36:17 PM
I once heard that Jack Morris was the fastest man on the '84(I think that was the year) Tigers.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: defen on 11/16/04, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 02:34:56 PM
yeah, but I am not sure they are accurate for the NES version, I really don't think that Gladden is faster than Gibson in the NES version, maybe he is faster in a 100 yard dash, but I really think that Gibson is a better baserunner, and it shows when stealing bases

The ROM which the stats are grabbed from is the NES version.  They are one and the same.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 03:23:32 PM
I believe you, i'm just not buying it.  I feel like Gladden gets hosed when running the bases whereas Gibson takes second easily.....maybe opponents focus more on the leadoff hitter than the #2 hitter???

Who knows???  Thanks for the info defen!
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Dryden on 11/16/04, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 11/16/04, 02:36:17 PM
I once heard that Jack Morris was the fastest man on the '84(I think that was the year) Tigers.


He was used as a pinch runner quite a bit, as can be inferred from his record at baseball-reference.  A bunch of runs scored, with no at-bats or anything to go along with them.
Title: Re:RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Gantry on 11/16/04, 05:38:05 PM
The speed stats are accurate, like I said Blyleven it'll take awhile to have some RBI truths debunked....
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeeJay on 01/02/06, 02:51:47 PM
This thread is amazing.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Flood on 01/03/06, 03:21:30 PM
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 03:23:32 PM
THE SKY IS BLUE?!?!  I DON'T BUY IT!

Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: erhajj on 01/06/06, 07:58:17 PM
I am very disapointed that I have not been mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: RedBarron on 01/06/06, 10:19:58 PM
well, for what it's worth, every person I know named "erhajj" is black.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: nomaaa on 01/09/06, 02:16:39 PM
i know i was shocked (and a little bit appalled)
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: erhajj on 01/10/06, 07:39:38 PM
Appalled that you now have negro taint?

MamaNomaaaaaaaaaa: "Nomaaa, what is wrong?  What is wrong my son?"
Nomaaaaaaaaaaa: "I have been talking on an internet forum with a negro."
MamaNomaaaaaaaaaa: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BDawk on 01/10/06, 07:46:39 PM
Quote from: erhajj on 01/10/06, 07:39:38 PM
Appalled that you now have negro taint?


I have a negro taint. Chicks like it
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: nomaaa on 01/11/06, 03:18:50 PM
Quote from: erhajj on 01/10/06, 07:39:38 PM
Appalled that you now have negro taint?

MamaNomaaaaaaaaaa: "Nomaaa, what is wrong?  What is wrong my son?"
Nomaaaaaaaaaaa: "a black man imposed his fried (vegan) chicken / watermelon diet on me."
MamaNomaaaaaaaaaa: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeeJay on 10/06/06, 07:39:50 PM
The RBI forum used to be so entertaining...
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Big Hath on 10/06/06, 10:30:24 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/12/04, 08:48:03 AM
I personally followed baseball around the time of RBI, so I knew who most of the players were.  I think I always assumed Rupperto was white until I researched his legend page (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/heroes/ruppert.shtml) though, only guy I can think of...

I also thought Mr. Jones was a cracker
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/07/06, 09:27:02 PM
For the Arcade Version:

Jackie Robinson
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: JoeDirt on 10/12/06, 10:33:15 PM
Sort of along these lines...I just found out that BDawk is not black...see, I did not know that.  That rocks my world.  Am I the only one, here that thought he was a brother?
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BDawk on 10/13/06, 10:58:59 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 10/12/06, 10:33:15 PM
Sort of along these lines...I just found out that BDawk is not black...see, I did not know that.  That rocks my world.  Am I the only one, here that thought he was a brother?


I'm only black where it counts...
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BeefMaster on 10/13/06, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: BDawk on 10/13/06, 10:58:59 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 10/12/06, 10:33:15 PM
Sort of along these lines...I just found out that BDawk is not black...see, I did not know that.  That rocks my world.  Am I the only one, here that thought he was a brother?


I'm only black where it counts...

Your cold, cold heart?
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: BDawk on 10/13/06, 12:12:00 PM
yes
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/14/13, 07:23:01 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/12/04, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: capt_taco on 08/12/04, 08:29:34 AM
Since everyone was white in RBI, and my baseball knowledg was still far from complete, I was very surprised when I eventually found out certain RBI players were black guys. Among them:

1. Lou Whitaker
2. Andre Dawson
3. Donnie Moore
4. Dave Henderson
5. Kirby Puckett
6. Harold Baines
7. George Bell

Anyone else remember the same thing? If so, for whom?
I'm speechless, you didn't know who any of these guys were?  Am I just getting old?

Just found out that Ralph Garr was black
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Brookensrules! on 10/15/13, 06:10:28 PM
Donnie Moore, I probably didn't know he was black because I wasn't familiar with the player.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/15/13, 07:42:55 PM
Did you know he was dead?
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Brookensrules! on 10/16/13, 07:10:35 PM
 :(
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Shooty on 10/19/13, 11:04:13 AM
I will always remember this card as its the first time I saw flip up glasses and it made him look badass:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HO8GPxnR44I/S-TKCcXPRNI/AAAAAAAAByY/C2M7J-z3WvI/s1600/scan0008.jpg)
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Shooty on 10/19/13, 11:05:07 AM
He even made shorts look badass:
(http://karamaxjoe.webs.com/Garr,%20Orioles.bmp)
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Gantry on 10/21/13, 02:06:05 PM
Looks alot like Richard Pryor in the first pic
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/19/18, 10:18:09 PM
I always assumed Dan Driessen was white until I saw a baseball card recently.  He played into the era that I collected cards, but I had no recollection.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: TβG on 11/06/18, 02:35:17 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 10/19/13, 11:04:13 AM
I will always remember this card as its the first time I saw flip up glasses and it made him look badass:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HO8GPxnR44I/S-TKCcXPRNI/AAAAAAAAByY/C2M7J-z3WvI/s1600/scan0008.jpg)
He looks like a Disco version Devon White.  Which would also be an awesome nickname.
Title: Re: RBI player you were most surprised to find out was a black guy
Post by: Gantry on 11/06/18, 02:44:37 PM
Love the old discussions - guy who didn't know that Kirby Puckett and Andre Dawson were black and another guy who didn't want to believe the raw speed numbers pulled out of the ROMs.