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Title: Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: Shooty on 08/17/04, 01:41:48 PM
Hopefully you guys can follow me on this, but here it goes...

Here's something I have always wondered...whenever you start up RBI Baseball in your NES, is there anything in the code that dictates the play.  I have played probably a good few thousand games of RBI Baseball and I have always thought that within the first inning, you usually know how the game is going to go.  Some days, the balls just fly out of the ballpark and you mercy every team within the first 2 innings.  Other days, you get nothing but shitty grounders and pop ups and are lucky to score 10 runs in a game.  Maybe its just a matter of perception, but I have always thought that your ability to make good contact with the ball was at least in some part predetermined by what the game was going to let you do that day (or specifically for that length of time until you turned the power off).

And hitting RESET never seemed to change the shitty hitting, but turning the Power OFF and ON would.

Am I mental or not?

 
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: ultimate7 on 08/17/04, 01:44:14 PM
I think you are mental, I guessing it is just a case of whether or not you've got you're timing down, and once you are missing, it goes to your head and you just can't hit.
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: fknmclane on 08/17/04, 03:13:15 PM
If you're referring to "computer assistance" as in Tecmo Super Bowl or NBA Jam, I think you're nuts.  Sometimes you got it, sometimes you don't.
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: BeefMaster on 08/17/04, 04:29:19 PM
Actually, it could be possible that the NES's random number generator is seeded when the power is turned on, thereby affecting every use of a random number in the game and helping determine power and whatnot.

But I don't really think that's the case.
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: T Roogs on 08/17/04, 04:49:11 PM
you've played a few thousand times, well that's miniscule to my million. and on top of being a computer genius, that's the craziest thing i've ever heard.
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: nightwulf on 08/17/04, 04:59:29 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 08/17/04, 04:29:19 PM
Actually, it could be possible that the NES's random number generator is seeded when the power is turned on, thereby affecting every use of a random number in the game and helping determine power and whatnot.

But I don't really think that's the case.

The RNG seeds (located at $15, $16, and $17 in RAM) are reinitialized any time the reset vector runs (on power-up or reset, in the case of RBI). They have to be, as does any other location in RAM. However, a new random number is generated and the seeds are modified at least once per frame. Watch those three locations in RAM while the game is running.

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: OzzieLongBall on 08/17/04, 08:12:00 PM
on a similar note... my friend and I, being die-hard RBI players, but not knowing any die-hards outside of ourselves, often wondered if other cartridges played the EXACT same as ours.. obviously the statistical ratings/input didnt change, but some guys just "have it"... meaning, was Ruppert Jones really that beastly elsewhere?  Does anyone else find Harry Spielman the answer to San Fran's lead-off problems?  Obviously, my discovery of this site answered all of our questions... but it was fun  to joke around about who might be the gem on somebody else's cartridge...

by the way, we each have used one and only one cartridge and console (one at each of our places) for all 10 years of our RBI playing... i dunno how everyone else stacks up, but i think thats pretty solid.. knock on wood...
Title: Re:Do you get different abilities each time you turn on the NES?
Post by: Baines on 08/17/04, 11:38:49 PM
Quoteby the way, we each have used one and only one cartridge and console (one at each of our places) for all 10 years of our RBI playing... i dunno how everyone else stacks up, but i think thats pretty solid.. knock on wood...

Still using the one I bought right after it came out in 88.  I ordered it from Sears with money from my paper route.  Damn those were the good ol days.