I don't know if it's noted anywhere on the site, but is it just my RBI or is detroit's defense insane. every arm in the outfield throws either line drives or those flies where the ball gets bigger. I refuse to run on any of those arms. and the 3B is scott rolen of the 80's.
by far the best defense in the game.
Check out the BOPs explained thread. By the numbers Det is the worst fielding team and, if I remember correctly, everyone has the same throwing arm in this game. I know, it doesn't seem that way, but Wulf/the numbers don't lie.
Incidentally, Terry Pendleton gets my vote as the best defensive 3rd baseman in the game. At least when he plays against me, he's diving and barehanding everything that comes his way. Brookens isn't bad on D, he's just not TP. I like Brookens more for his bat (3 bombs for me last night).
i don't care what the #'s say. their defense is great. I mean oquendo hits a homer almost every 1st at bat, similar to armas but with less power.
You're an idiot.
Quote from: T Roogs on 08/18/04, 09:27:39 AM
i don't care what the #'s say. their defense is great. I mean oquendo hits a homer almost every 1st at bat, similar to armas but with less power.
These aren't stats, Nightwulf looked into the ROM numbers. So as much as all of us would like to say otherwise, these numbers aren't up for debate.
oh, i know you are referring to ROM, i still don't believe in those #'s. i mean c'mon, voting this year in some places will be computer based, are you going to believe all those #'s? i won't.
Quote from: T Roogs on 08/18/04, 10:03:49 AM
oh, i know you are referring to ROM, i still don't believe in those #'s. i mean c'mon, voting this year in some places will be computer based, are you going to believe all those #'s? i won't.
Look, the game doesn't work by magic, there is a program that was written which the game operates on. Nightwulf is looking at the actual code that runs the game, those numbers are fact.
wow, relax folks. just trying to create friendly conversation and get your opinion on the best defense. the code maybe say strawberry is the best player in the game, but we all know alan trammell is.
Roogs, the strength of your throw has to do with your techinique. Press the button of the base and A simultaniously and you'll get a strong throw everytime with any team.
Quote from: GDavis on 08/18/04, 10:26:38 AM
Roogs, the strength of your throw has to do with your techinique. Press the button of the base and A simultaniously and you'll get a strong throw everytime with any team.
Correctamundo. If you're good at your technique, your team will have arms like cannons. If you're shitty with your technique, your team will throw like a bunch of little girls.
I fucking hate Detroit's defense. Trammell and Sweet Lou are good for a couple of BOPs per game for me and Chubbs. I've mentioned this before: they've committed 4 errors in one inning, twice.
Usually, their offense makes up for their lack in the fielding department but I am BOP intolerant. I have no tolerance for BOPs, and I won't stand for it.
well kevin mitchell has one hell of an arm. remmeber the bare handed over the head catch he made while with the reds, i think the reds. that was great. web gem of a life time.
Quote from: T Roogs on 08/18/04, 11:41:00 AM
well kevin mitchell has one hell of an arm. remmeber the bare handed over the head catch he made while with the reds, i think the reds. that was great. web gem of a life time.
It was with the Giants. I think he hit 50+ that year. Tubby bitch.
Kevin Mitchell catch good. Kevin Mitchell kill cats good. Kevin Mitchell throw like shit.
Bo Jackson throw good.
do you just copy and paste some else's message. how do you do that with the box around it?
Use the "quote" button at the top right of the message
One of my all time favorite posts from GDavis on the haiku thread: (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=345;start=0)
cupcake injury
Kevin Mitchell is a tard
nice barehanded catch
"Hey, here's something new about the game. Here's the actual code that makes this work, and why. Here's how you can test it out for yourself, even if you're not familiar with the language. If you think it's incorrect, here's how you can test it for yourself and come to me with information if it turns out I was wrong."
"I don't care. You're wrong because I say so."
A little reading goes a long way.
Nightwulf
Quote from: T Roogs on 08/18/04, 10:03:49 AM
oh, i know you are referring to ROM, i still don't believe in those #'s. i mean c'mon, voting this year in some places will be computer based, are you going to believe all those #'s? i won't.
I like this guy. Don't take no shit off nobody!
back to the mitchell catch.... i know it's trivial, but i'm 99% sure he caught that foul ball off the bat of ozzie smith.
Teddy, you are correct - it was an ozzie smith drive.
-In two games last night, Detroit had 9 errors, including 2 that would have been inning ending double plays that allowed BO to score 6 runs. Det's D is horrible, I want nothing to do with that team.
god i admire you
::)
It's a two percent difference between Boston and Detroit. Please stop drama queening over two fucking percent.
Nightwulf
Well if you use Detroit instead of Boston, then you are 70% more likely to have a BOP on each fielding play, that is a significant difference.
Yes, and if I buy two lottery tickets instead of one, I'm twice as likely to win a jillion dollars.
Nightwulf
Quote from: nightwulf on 08/19/04, 03:00:56 PM
Yes, and if I buy two lottery tickets instead of one, I'm twice as likely to win a jillion dollars.
Nightwulf
haha
Nightwulf must have tried to stop smoking or something...very easily irrate! :D
Detroit D is just unparalled to any other team.
Beales
Quote from: SmokedUBad13 on 08/19/04, 09:35:12 PM
Detroit D is just unparalled to any other team.
Beales
FINALLY! someone in agreement. there are many BOP's, but arms like no other
Quote from: JoeDirt on 08/19/04, 09:25:51 PM
Nightwulf must have tried to stop smoking or something...very easily irrate! :D
Nightwulf is pissed off
He hates all stupid people
He drinks lots of beer
I would have to disagree with the statement that Detroit has the best D. I personally play with Detroit and if it was not for their offense they would suck. Their defense is slow as shit which causes too many balls to squeak by the third baseman. Hell, my second baseman dropped two pop flys in a row against my brother today. I believe that since throwing is so similar between the teams that speed is the biggest factor in the quality of defense. Which Detroit sucks at. They also seem to have more errors too than other teams . (Not sure if it is just me or actually programmed into game)
There are so many ways to pick this apart, it hardly seems worth it...
Gantry, is there a way to make people read the FAQ before they can post on the site? This is getting a mite silly, methinks.
Dear Herndon Sucks,
All teams are the same speed on D. It's just your imagination that it isn't. Throwing is identical, too. If one team throws better, it's because you happen to have better technique. You can make a better or worse throw, read the FAQ. Detroit does make more errors, it is programmed into the game. Whether you think they do or not, it's probably all in your head, since the difference is barely observable.
Have a nice day.
Dryden, will you marry me?
Nightwulf
why does everyone have to be so serious all the time...if he wants to think detroit is the best D, let him think that. so when you play him you can kick his ass!
Quote from: Dryden on 08/24/04, 12:35:26 AM
Detroit does make more errors, it is programmed into the game. Whether you think they do or not, it's probably all in your head, since the difference is barely observable.
I don't believe the difference is barely observable, in fact many of us observed Detroit making more BOPs before it was even known as fact. If you commonly match up Boston and Detroit you will notice significantly more errors made by Detroit.
But then there are all the games where they make no errors...
Look, based on Nightwulf's numbers, Detroit will make 47 errors per 1000 chances, and Boston will make 27 per 1000. In a 9 inning game, I usually get about 45-50 AB (you may be a much better player than I am). So Detroit averages about 2.5 errors per game for me, while boston has about 1.5. It's observable, certainly, but when people say that they had Detroit make 3 errors in one game, it's just chance. Measure over several hundred games (and really measure - don't just say "It seemed like blah") and the results should bear this out.
I have no idea why we're even still discussing it. Jim, this horse is dead.
Correct, 1 game is not a sample size, but with the quantitiy that many of us have play it certainly can be noticed.
damn, I guess your right. After reading your post I went and played and realized that the speed is the same for the teams. I must have just never payed much attention. But, I would argue that Detroits errors are more than barely observable compared to other teams.
I agree with Ultimate that Detroit's error % is siginificantly higher than the rest of the field. I don't think you can look at it in terms of only 1-2% points higher than the rest; rather, it must be evaluated in relative terms--as almost 2x as high as the other teams...
For example, is there much of a difference between a .260 batting average and a .300 batting average? Technically speaking, a .300 average is "only" 4 percentage points higher than a .260 batting average...
Jeepers folks, this is starting to get ugly... PS - Welcome Herndon Sucks!
Part of the problem is that the FAQ is horribly outdated in some areas. My goal today is to add at least 3-4 new questions about fielding in the FAQ, because this stuff needs to be put on the main site. All I have right now is 3 entries for throwing and even those are a bit vague. So you bitches check up on me, make sure I have added to the fielding part of the FAQ today....