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Choose 4 teams you feel have the best batting line-ups.

This is in the context of 1 starting pitcher play(best of 3 or 5 series), including the bench players inserted into the line-up.
Feel free to list your top 4 as well in a post.

I'm starting to look into ranking the line-ups on the site and curious about some outside opinions.

So... was it intentional that you listed the teams in the order of their lineup strength?  I chose the top four on the list in this puhl and the bottom four in the other one.

I've always thought NL was the best - Raines is awesome, and if I can bring myself to sub out Ryno (which I usually can't), they end up with a great combination of power and speed.  The speed is my big complaint about Boston - lots of power, but they're a double play machine, and they don't even have the token Gladden-type somewhat fast guy at the top of the order.

Boston, NL and Detroit were no brainers for me.  4th is down to AL or Cali - the breakdown:

Cali - 10 guys over 800 power, 7 guys 850 or higher (counting Hendrick at 849), 1 guy over 900
AL - 6 guys over 800 power, 5 guys 850 or higher, 3 guys over 900

I guess it's a matter of quantity over quality.  The big 3 for AL are a terror, but after that their best power is 855.  Cali has a consistent lineup of semi-powerful guys with Jackson and Rupperto anchoring.  I'm going Cali in 1SP, I think AL has a better case in 2SP for that 4th spot. 

I also picked the first four, but in different order.
Detroit, California, National, Boston.

Detroit:  Their lineup is just awesome.  Using my player ranking formula, they have by far the best average starting lineup (which is key since you don't really NEED to use up your bench to have the best lineup).  They also have a top 4 bench, btw AND have the best worst bench player.  It's really not even close what team has the best lineup.

California:  Using my player ranking formula, they have the 2nd best raw starting lineup.  However, I like to put in Wilfong and Jones immediately for Pettis and Grich... giving all their starters a power rating of 816 or higher.

National:  When utilizing (and almost exhausting) the bench, they have the best top-to-bottom lineup in the game and the best leadoff hitter in the game.  Just two things that keep them from the top.... 1) You are left with only Gwynn on your bench, and 2) I leave Santiago in the lineup which means they likely have the worst #3 batter in the game that stays in the lineup.

Boston:  They have far from the best starting lineup (7th best).  However, they by far have the best bench in the game.  When replacing Barrett and Owen for Burks and Armas, you have a banging lineup and still have Henderson on the bench with that power bonus just waiting for a big inning with runners on base.

American?:  Was tough to put Boston ahead of them considering they have 3 top 10 players on their team (Mac, Bell, Canseco).  However, when you immediately have to put McGwire in for Randolf, they have the shittiest bench on the game.  And, it's just personal preference but after you get past their top 4 hitters (unbeatable in the game), Ripken is decent and I just do shitty with Baine, Brett, Shroeder.  And since their bench is so horrible, you don't even gain much by subbing any of those guys out.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/28/12, 07:58:31 AM
So... was it intentional that you listed the teams in the order of their lineup strength?  I chose the top four on the list in this puhl and the bottom four in the other one.

Not really, but it came out that way as my mind sort of rated them as I pulled out team names from the air to create the puhl.

Surprised that nobody has gone with AL yet

I also almost went with AL (prior to reading the thread), but yes that list seems pretty close to the correct order.  Arguments could be made for one spot change here or there, but that's about it.