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Poll
Question: Do you sub out Jose Cruz in RBI?
Option 1: Yes, subbed immediately. votes: 0
Option 2: Usually, but I typically give him at least one at bat votes: 2
Option 3: Nope, he stays in.   votes: 9
Title: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 07:14:42 PM
It's time we had some RBI discussion. 

Do you keep Jose Cruz in?  If not, who do you sub him for? 

I personally always keep him in, seems to outperform his 768 power in straight pitch.  But then again lefty hits are big with Houston since their power is so fkn anemic.  Same player as a righty and he's likely worthless. 

Also, look at my dee-nee.com entry for Houston.  His nickname is Cheo?  I don't even know what that means, nobody ever gave him that nickname.  Why did I make shit up?  What the fuck is wrong with me? 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fightonusc on 06/29/17, 08:19:28 PM
Nope, you are correct.

Also, No. 2 spot is time for the DickieThon.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fightonusc on 06/29/17, 08:21:44 PM
Gonna need Strassy's help here, but I think the translation might be a bit light.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTBayqucyzk
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 09:43:27 PM
A HA!  So I'm a genius for tracking down his real nickname.  Got it...
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: fightonusc on 06/29/17, 08:21:44 PM
Gonna need Strassy's help here, but I think the translation might be a bit light.

Hell I'm going to try without cheating or using subs. 

Well, it's true I love Whataburgers -- es verdad?
It's one of my favorite places for me to eat  --  think he says mi sitio
Whataburgers are pure beef __ good spice/warmth  -- se vido bien calientitos?

Don't understand a word of this line - maybe starts with acá and ends with pariña, though I don't know if that's a word

All the ingredients are fresh like the lettuce, tomato __ and the onions  -- las pepeninos?
___ exactly how I like
My favorite Whataburger is made with Jalapeños  -- though "hace que tiene" confuses me.  More like "does have?"
But the best is that when I'm in a hurry I Cruuuz through the drive-thru window, how nice


Holy fuck I'm terrible at spoken Spanish, probably listened to it 15 times to barely get half.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 10:12:05 PM
Well he's Puerto Rican, so I feel a little better since I haven't heard them speak much. 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 10:16:44 PM
Turning on the subtitles:

servido bien calientido - served nice and warm probably.  Now that I know it's servido it's so fkn obvious
parrilla?

YouTube does not do a good job subtitling that. 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/29/17, 10:18:17 PM
parrilla is a grill, adding to my flash cards. 

IS EVERYONE HAPPY THAT I MADE YET ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT MYSELF??!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: TempoGL on 06/30/17, 01:08:31 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 06/29/17, 10:09:44 PM
Quote from: fightonusc on 06/29/17, 08:21:44 PM
Gonna need Strassy's help here, but I think the translation might be a bit light.

Hell I'm going to try without cheating or using subs. 

Well, it's true I love Whataburgers -- es verdad?
It's one of my favorite places for me to eat  --  think he says mi sitio
Whataburgers are pure beef __ good spice/warmth  -- se vido bien calientitos?

Don't understand a word of this line - maybe starts with acá and ends with pariña, though I don't know if that's a word

All the ingredients are fresh like the lettuce, tomato __ and the onions  -- las pepeninos?
___ exactly how I like
My favorite Whataburger is made with Jalapeños  -- though "hace que tiene" confuses me.  More like "does have?"
But the best is that when I'm in a hurry I Cruuuz through the drive-thru window, how nice


Holy fuck I'm terrible at spoken Spanish, probably listened to it 15 times to barely get half.

Here's my (spicy) take:

"Well, it's true.  I love Whataburger.  It's one of my favorite places to eat.  Whataburgers are made with pure beef and they come hot off the grill (he's saying parilla, which means "grill")

All the ingredients are really fresh, like the lettuce, the tomatoes (he used a weird puerto rican word but that's what it's got to be), the peppers, and the onions.  And they make my Whataburger exactly how I like it.  My favorite Whataburger is one that has jalapenos (why he makes a "ooh that's hot" gesture is beyond me, must have been hamming it up for the camera)

But the best part about Whataburger is when I am in a hurry, I Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzz through the drive through.  How great!"

Gantry and I had some small differences but I'm not saying those parts were wrong on his end, there's always some poetic license in translation as it rarely is word-for-word.

As for Jose Cruz in RBI, I always leave him in.  I've probably played as Houston more than anybody on earth, but I don't claim to be the expert, as everyone's style of play is different.  Stu and I always play curve pitch, and you can only use your second starter until the 14th inning or later, so pinch hitting is more important than it may be in other styles.

My Astros lineup:

1. Hatcher
2. Cruz
3. Lopes or Garner (Walling will hit if there's two outs and no one on, as to not waste the PH bonus)
4. Davis
5. Bass
6. Doran
7. Reynolds
8. Lopes or Garner

Puhl and Thon are left to pinch hitting for the pitcher's spot.  It is a bit wasteful to leave them only for one at-bat apiece, but our games are almost always low scoring affairs and you will often need one of them in a pinch (get it?)
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/30/17, 08:44:06 AM
Got closer than I thought, holy cow "ellos hacen" - they make.  Would have never heard it on my own - now I can't unhear that, weird how that works.  What word is he saying there for peppers?  Almost sounds like pepeniño or something. 

I found it interesting you take Walling out immediately then I looked at the numbers.  He has the worst power numbers out of any Houston starter, even Hatcher.  I had no idea...

What determines if you go Lopes/Garner in three or eight? 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: TempoGL on 06/30/17, 09:10:22 AM
Situational. If speed is likely to be of importance, I go Lopes. If not, Garner
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fknmclane on 06/30/17, 12:25:26 PM
Cruz stays.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fknmclane on 06/30/17, 12:25:48 PM
Lopes comes in for the bottom half of the pathetic order.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fknmclane on 06/30/17, 12:26:09 PM
Maybe even bring Lopes in for Denny Walling. God, Denny Walling fucking sucks.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: TempoGL on 06/30/17, 12:59:11 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 06/30/17, 12:26:09 PM
Maybe even bring Lopes in for Denny Walling. God, Denny Walling fucking sucks.

If memory serves, Walling was the last guy to hit a home run on either side when Nacho and I attempted 24 hours of RBI.  Turns out I was wrong, Nacho still needed to hit a lot more home runs:

https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=14578.msg292439#msg292439
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 06/30/17, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 06/30/17, 12:26:09 PM
Maybe even bring Lopes in for Denny Walling. God, Denny Walling fucking sucks.

He really really does
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Nacho on 07/08/17, 02:54:09 PM
We need to do another RBI marathon sometime.

Cruz has good speed and there are worse Astros in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Flood on 07/08/17, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 07/08/17, 02:54:09 PM
We need to do another RBI marathon sometime.

Cruz has good speed and there are worse Astros in the starting lineup.

Yep...Cruz stays. What a shitty lineup.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: GDavis on 07/08/17, 05:32:07 PM
I used to sub out Reynolds and Ashby and use the other 2 pinch hitters situationally.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/11/17, 07:42:47 AM
Denny Walling is so bad, honestly didn't know his power #s were that low
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/12/17, 07:08:50 PM
Cruz stays in, Lopes for Walling then Garner usually goes in the 7 or 8 spot.  Hatcher can also get subbed.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/12/17, 07:10:33 PM
Five votes, really?  REALLY? 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: GDavis on 07/12/17, 07:46:00 PM
There was a poll?
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fknmclane on 07/12/17, 11:32:48 PM
Could swear I voted. Fixed.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Shooty on 07/13/17, 07:22:44 AM
Stays in.  HOU is garbage.  Lopes is really the only bench player I sub in on a regular basis.  Usually for Ashby.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
Some observations after looking at Hou's page:

* Lopes and Garner are very close in power, wouldn't have guessed that.  Which clearly makes Lopes the #1 bench guy. 
* Ashby's 777 power is terrible, but he's lefty and tops Hatcher, Cruz, Walling and Doran in the lineup.  Decent argument to keep him in.
* Terry Puhl day has the same power and a slightly worst contact & speed than puhl. 
* Just want to repeat how awful Denny Walling is

Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: TempoGL on 07/13/17, 09:47:00 AM
Kerfeld fucking rules
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: fightonusc on 07/13/17, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
Some observations after looking at Hou's page:

* Lopes and Garner are very close in power, wouldn't have guessed that.  Which clearly makes Lopes the #1 bench guy. 
* Ashby's 777 power is terrible, but he's lefty and tops Hatcher, Cruz, Walling and Doran in the lineup.  Decent argument to keep him in.
* Terry Puhl day has the same power and a slightly worst contact & speed than puhl. 
* Just want to repeat how awful Denny Walling is

Whoa...
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Shooty on 07/13/17, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: fightonusc on 07/13/17, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
Some observations after looking at Hou's page:

* Lopes and Garner are very close in power, wouldn't have guessed that.  Which clearly makes Lopes the #1 bench guy. 
* Ashby's 777 power is terrible, but he's lefty and tops Hatcher, Cruz, Walling and Doran in the lineup.  Decent argument to keep him in.
* Terry Puhl day has the same power and a slightly worst contact & speed than puhl. 
* Just want to repeat how awful Denny Walling is

Whoa...

Gantry is referring to his brother Barry Puhl.
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/13/17, 10:57:54 AM
Some impressive programming to pull that off...
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Big Hath on 07/13/17, 11:26:41 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
* Terry Puhl day

should be a national holiday if it isn't already
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/13/17, 11:34:42 AM
Which nation Hath, WHICH NATION? 
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Big Hath on 07/13/17, 12:11:34 PM
all the nations
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Gantry on 07/13/17, 12:15:04 PM
Fair...
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: Shooty on 07/13/17, 12:58:45 PM
But especially in Canada where he's the Jackie Robinson of baseball.

Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: ultimate7 on 07/13/17, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: GDavis on 07/12/17, 07:46:00 PM
There was a poll?

Quote from: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
* Terry Puhl
Title: Re: Jose Cruz
Post by: GDavis on 07/13/17, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/13/17, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: GDavis on 07/12/17, 07:46:00 PM
There was a poll?

Quote from: Gantry on 07/13/17, 08:24:20 AM
* Terry Puhl


What means this?