What is it about the yankees that makes them so easy to hate?
For me its the fans. You never meet a yankee fan that admits he didnt pay attention to the team when they were sucking it up in the early 90s. No, every fucking yankee fan loved donny baseball when they were growing up and still went to the games despite the fact that the bombers werent competative. Couple that with their (yankee fans) braggart attitude and minimal understanding of the game and you get a mob of self assured bandwagoneers who are always talking about destiny and the mystique of pinstripes. They can all suck mike mussina's little pink dick.
Derek Jeter doesn't help. Fuckin flamer.
They are consistently good, and they don't have a likeable star.
Since Paul O'Neill.
Paul O'Neil ... nice guy in the booth but a real bitch at the plate. Nothing was a fucking strike to him. Always crying
Paul Oneill hasn't been likeable since he played for the Reds.
The Yankees have been so good for so long, that they have created an anti-fan base. I think it comes down to the fact that they have ruined so many teams' chances in the postseason. They're like the bully on the playground.
It's the insane financial advantage (which is a problem with MLB's financial structure more than anything). They're expected to win. Bill Simmons put it best - rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for the house in blackjack.
MLB Payroll Stats (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=nyy)
I'd like to believe that the Yankees are not good because of the money they spend, but it's hard to argue with these numbers.
The Red Sox are usually in the 2-spot here, so they shouldn't be a surprise.
Interesting numbers.
Wow - the Yankees' third baseman's average salary is equivalent to 90% of Milwaukee's payroll.
I wonder who on the Marlins gets that extra $42. And how does a guy making $500k a year bargain for an extra $42?
Im starting to hate the Red Sox more. Fucking annoying. Pedro, Manny. It is kind of hard to hate any of the individual Yanks, except ARod.
I think people would hate the Red Sox more if they won the World Series.
Quote from: Bonny on 09/26/04, 07:14:57 PM
It is kind of hard to hate any of the individual Yanks, except ARod.
I've thought this as well, with similar thoughts about the Braves, who I also hate. The Yanks generally seem like decent guys, except Sheffield, whose reputation as a dick isn't erased by a year in pinstripes.
At the game last night, ARod was such a prick. After he caught a foul pop to end an inning, he pretended like he was going to throw the ball into the stands for a kid, then popped it back in his glove and gave a smug smile. Dick. Then, when the Yanks were getting killed, he came out of the dugout and gave the #1 sign. I wish DeNiro could have Juan Primo-ed him.
I hated P.O.
Aaaayyyy, Bobby!
I loved Paulie.
Sheffield has done a lot for his reputation this year, at least in my eyes. He's played hurt, said all the right things, and hit the cover off the ball. When they signed him I was pissed, but he'd done a great job and he's been their only consistent threat.
Isn't Paul Oneill mildly retarded? I'm just sayin' I don't know.
Quote from: fknmclane on 09/27/04, 10:13:41 AM
I loved Paulie.
Sheffield has done a lot for his reputation this year, at least in my eyes.
Yeah, he signed with the Yankess :)
Seriously though, I was at a White Sox/Yankees game in April, there was a double hit by the Sox, can't remember exactly what happened, but the baserunner started for third because no one was close to covering second, then retreated to 2nd, but almost got thrown out at 2nd because Sheffield had run in from RF to cover 2nd. The throw was just late, but I'm in the stands thinking, here's an all-star stud hitter, that just ran in from RF to cover 2B, I was impressed. But I still hate the Yankees.
Check out Gammons' column today on ESPN. Nothing but good things about Sheff coming from his team.
Sheffield is the MVP this year by a close vote.Manny is having a batter season,but Sheffield has come up with more big hits when they need it.
I just threw O'Neill out there since he's the only Yankee player I've liked in the past 15 years. Of course this is probably only because of his years with the Reds.
Even if you find a "likeable" Yankee, you'll have trouble getting a Red Sox fan to admit it.
Not true. I like Bernie Williams and Hideki Matsui. Solid players, not dicks like AJob.
I like Kevin Brown. He's funny because he's stupid.
I have a lot of respect for Jeter. The guy plays too hard to be hated on. He plays ball and he's a good leader. That said I am looking forward to when he's too stiff to play short effectively and hes batting .268 with an OBP under .320 in the last couple years of his huge contract.
Jeter swallows.
Quote from: Mike D. on 09/28/04, 09:45:19 AM
Jeter swallows.
Jeter could have easily pulled up on that foul ball he ended up diving into the after he caught it, he took about four steps without trying to slow down, Jeter is a great player but he is always doing unnessary actions to make plays look spectacular
Quote from: ShitPaw on 09/27/04, 10:28:31 PM
Even if you find a "likeable" Yankee, you'll have trouble getting a Red Sox fan to admit it.
Don Mattingly? How could/can anybody hate him?
ps...how is this topic "rbi related?"
Quote from: malnuboy on 09/28/04, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: Mike D. on 09/28/04, 09:45:19 AM
Jeter swallows.
Jeter could have easily pulled up on that foul ball he ended up diving into the after he caught it, he took about four steps without trying to slow down, Jeter is a great player but he is always doing unnessary actions to make plays look spectacular
your right, Jeter plans it all out. Before that game he said, "if there is a pop foul on the 3rd base side, if I time my sprint just right, I can get myself all kinds of busted up. It will look spectacular!"
...because you just mentioned Mattingly.
I don't like him because every freakin yankee fan thinks he was the greatest player during the 80s.
He was good, but not as good as yankee fans think he was.
I don't like him because there's a push for him to get into the Hall of Fame.
Mattingly shouldnt get in HOF. He had a good 4 year run, and is helped by the fact that he was a Yankee. Hype. Other than that he is Cecil Cooper.
Coop was a smooth brother
Everyone likes the Yankees. Thats why you hate them. Not everyone gets to grow up loving the best team in baseball.
the yankees will not win the world series
Neither will the Red Sox
we aren't supposed to win. you are.
Yeah, yeah. That's not what I keep hearing from all the sports experts. And with the second highest payroll in the league, the expectations are pretty high.
you guys can't rely on your history one minute, then discard it when some expert discredits you.
the problem with yankee fans is that they are not well-rounded baseball fans. you may be able to handle winning, but losing is hard to swallow. red sox fans can handle both.
this is why so many red sox go to the yankees. you don't see as many yankees going to the red sox.
the same goes for fans.
and i am drunk, but i can still type.
and there is a fire alarm in my building, but i already heard someone say we are going to have a fire alarm today which means i am not going outside because i know the builiding is not on fire and i want to keep drinking.
(i accidentally wrote "i know the building is on fire" - that was funny)
Quote from: ShitPaw on 10/04/04, 10:34:35 PM
the problem with yankee fans is that they are not well-rounded baseball fans. you may be able to handle winning, but losing is hard to swallow. red sox fans can handle both.
This is a fairly good point. Red Sox fans have been losing for quite some time now. But I do know what it's like to cheer on a shitty team. Look no further than Pags, Roberto Kelly and Donnie Baseball on those shitty as 80's teams.
they won the world series in 1978. you guys need to experience a drought. the biggest drought they've had in your lifetime is like 20 years. you guys don't have a curse attatched to you. and once again i will use the bully in the playground analogy because you guys claim to apply the curse to us year after year.
yankee fans are synonymous with bandwagon. every drooling retard i know will tell the sox suck, but cant tell me how many homers lou gehirg hit.
i am a red sox fan because i can deal with the losses, can stick with a team, love history, love the game, and can quote stats at the drop of the hat. i like to drink and throw things at the tv, and when they play the red sox facilitate that. i like to be a little different, which is why i wear my sox hat in a sea of braves paraphenelia here in the godamn south (i hate the fucking south and all these obliviously self-rightous morons)... i forgot my rant so ill go now
Is Arkansas part of the south?
This thread needs to be moved.
yes it is, and south carolina is still fighting the civil war
the moral of the story is that if Major League is on and the fire alarm goes off, stay inside and finish the movie
Shit, I live in the south.
I would have guessed Kansas City or Pittsburgh for some reason...
No, but seriously, the south sucks.
The company I work for transferred me to the Fayetteville AR area from KC 2months ago.
I play baseball for the KC PIRATES.
ShitPaw had a few too many...
How many homers did Yaz hit? And why does it make you more of a fan for knowing that? ;)
Quote from: ShitPaw on 10/04/04, 11:02:50 PM
yankee fans are synonymous with bandwagon. every drooling retard i know will tell the sox suck, but cant tell me how many homers lou gehirg hit.
I'm tired of cry baby Red Sox fans attacking my character (in regard to baseball) because they cannot attack the baseball team that I love, who is also their rival.
Get a life, ShitPaw. Start talking about things other than the stereotype you place upon me, because I am a Yankee fan. Stop talking about how I need a serious drought--20 years IS a long time, when you're in your 20s and 30s (like McLane and I are). Stop acting like you have suffered through the Red Sox drought since 1918. The reality is, the longest drought McLane and I have is 18 years ('78 to '96); the longest drought you have is your age (what, 24?). There's not that big of a difference.
Are you running for office or are you trying to talk baseball? ...then don't speak to the made up "bad" things about me and/or my team--speak to the things that make your Sox so beloved in your heart.
yankee fans are also too sensitive
Quote from: fknmclane on 10/05/04, 12:48:33 AM
ShitPaw had a few too many...
How many homers did Yaz hit? And why does it make you more of a fan for knowing that? ;)
the point is that they don't know shit about their team. (outside of this site) it's hard to find a yankee fan who has claimed to be a yankee fan when they weren't doing so well.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 10/05/04, 07:19:17 AM
I'm tired of cry baby Red Sox fans attacking my character (in regard to baseball) because they cannot attack the baseball team that I love, who is also their rival.
what the hell are you talking about. i'm talking about bandwagon fans; the millions of bandwagon fans. if you aren't one of these it doesn't apply to you.
That's a joke. Did the Yankees draw any crowds in the 80s and early-mid 90s?
Most Yankee fans my age grew up with these teams and can quote stats.
I might as well just start saying that all Red Sox fans are cry babies, if you can generalize that all Yankees fans are bandwagon fans.
Cry Baby! :'(
you can say whatever the fuck you want
Quote from: ShitPaw on 10/04/04, 11:02:50 PM
yankee fans are synonymous with bandwagon.
This is what I'm talking about.
Great retorts, ShitPaw. :-\
i didn't mean to claim all yankee fans. there is clearly a contingent that does not follow the team just because they win games. every team has true fans like this.
this is about the yankee team, and i hate them because they attract so many bandwagon fans.
high attendance during their weaker seasons doesn't prove the strong contingent of yankee fans. it just shows that people in new england like them, and seeing a yankee game is still a tourist attraction. when the yankees sucked, and i was a kid, none of my friends liked them. but, in 96 they all started sporting NY hats and bashing the Sox.
i'm not whining; i'm not a crybaby. i'm attacking yankee fans, and there is a difference.
I'm just defending my people.
It's all good...Yankee/Red Sox banter is what the rivalry is all about...and it's why I hope the two meet in the playoffs this year!
Quote from: JoeDirt on 10/05/04, 07:50:08 AM
I'm just defending my people.
It's all good...Yankee/Red Sox banter is what the rivalry is all about...and it's why I hope the two meet in the playoffs this year!
I'm a Twins fan, so I hope they don't :-)
Im really starting to hate the Red Sox, nice work ShitPaws
as an angel fan, we hate them both! haha. but we took more games against the redsox at our house this year, and weve owned the yankees for who knows how long. we're looking to reverse 86 and repeat 2002.
DAVE HENDERSON
Quote from: Bonny on 10/05/04, 08:47:50 AM
Im really starting to hate the Red Sox, nice work ShitPaws
I didn't know I was supposed to be building a fan base. I can't stand the Red Sox bandwagon either. We aren't as big, but when the playoffs come around, I see a shitload more Sox paraphenelia. People talk about reversing the curse, but think Bronson Arroyo is a Cuban.
I just hate the phrase "Red Sox Nation." I think I've mentioned this before. It makes me want to puke.
I hate the guys that come up with the Red Sox slogans...
Cowboy Up is completely homosexual
Red Sox Nation is nonsensical
Dirt Dogs - I don't get it
BoSox are about the best name we have. There are many people associated with the Red Sox whom I hate. I think the true nature of a Red Sox fan is to indiscriminately hate things - which I do.
Really, you just say The Sox.
There really is only one Sox. Sorry- The White Sox don't count.
true
Does Mussina's looking through the legs at runners at first bother anyone else? That really irritated me in the first inning.
does anyone hate sheffield now, or do we all hate barry?
Sheffield has always been a tool. Anybody remember when he first got up to the bigs how he had "G S" in gold on his front teeth?
i hate you gary. i hate you.
Quote from: ShitPaw on 10/05/04, 07:39:19 PM
does anyone hate sheffield now, or do we all hate barry?
why pick when you can hate both ?
gantry, can we move this thread, i mean, the yankees aren't even in RBI --thankfully.
Ooh, another reason to hat them is that god damn announcer.
'Yankees suck. Daaaaaaaaa Yankees suck!"
You're a loser.
I think there is valid reason to leave this in the RBI forum, now that the Yankees are up against 3 RBI teams for the AL championship. Also every post season team is in either the NES or the Arcade version with Hou, STL, and Boston doublling up.