we were blessed with more teams. the players lost weight and started looking gay. the gameplay suffered but the music rocked. discuss this game please.
the ability to dive and jump while fielding was a huge improvement. i also liked seeing how far the home runs went. rbi 3 was pretty good too. everything was the same as rbi 2, except there were updated rosters and the pennant teams dating back to 1983, which was key. the '83 white sox were the shit. that was the year ron kittle won the rookie of the year award and you can't forget their leadoff batter. i have no idea who the hell he is, but his name is parsons, he batted .200 with 0 home runs and he is one of the fastest players in the game. you won't believe the number of inside the park homers you can hit with him
I could never get into RBI 2, those skinny batters didn't do it for me. Diving and jumping were an improvement, but the hitting style just lost something. I think Baseball Stars took the basic concepts of RBI and expanded them in a much better way than RBI2...
And those Instant Replays were obnoxious...
F RBI 2.
F Fred.
Baseball stars has got to be the next best baseball game for the NES. With the Salary's, earning money with wins, climbing the wall, you can't go wrong, the only problem is the rosters, if they were major league rosters it would be a solid game.
As for RBI 2 and 3, Tengen must have celebrated too much after the release of RBI, cause it just went downhill from there.
QuoteI could never get into RBI 2, those skinny batters didn't do it for me. Diving and jumping were an improvement, but the hitting style just lost something. I think Baseball Stars took the basic concepts of RBI and expanded them in a much better way than RBI2...
And those Instant Replays were obnoxious...
I agree about the instant replays
I think it's disrespectful to Gantry to post anything about RBI 2 on this exceptional forum devoted to the world's best game
RBI II IS STRAIGHT POO... WHAT AN ENORMOUS LET DOWN...JUST LIKE IN MOVIES, THE SEQUELS NEVER LIVE UP TO THE ORIGINALS... LONG LIVE rbi 1!
It was fun but mild simulation fun...
2 & 3 were cool because I'm a Jays fan & they owned both games 8)
But the gameplay scuked.
& don't even get me started on Super RBI Baseball for SNES
Impressively ancient bump, RBIwut.
I always liked RBI 2 and (especially) 3, but I am in a very small minority here.
Terrible game. I don't care what features they add (dive) it is horrible. I would rather play Bases Loaded then this piece of crap. It is shameful to have the RBI name in the title.
You'd rather play Bases Loaded?! Take that back! TAKE IT BACK, DAMMIT!
RBI 2 was a big step up from the original, I liked that there were all the teams & bigger rosters & there's the home run distances and the dives & the cleaner more crisp look to the game. But I still like the original the best, just something about it. RBI 3 is alot better than 2, all the past division winning teams are fun to use, the graphics are worse but pretty much the same. And the 1984 Cubs are probably the best team in the whole game. Hidden home run power by just about every one, even the zero homer guys, I've hit 450-footers with Billy Hatcher (.111 Avg, 0 hr) before.
RBI 2 still is pretty solid though.
once again, metal king disappoints me
I liked the instant replay
Quote from: RBIwut on 11/20/08, 10:14:33 PM
2 & 3 were cool because I'm a Jays fan & they owned both games 8)
You're not a Canadian, are you?
Quote from: Metal King on 11/21/08, 11:46:13 AM
And the 1984 Cubs are probably the best team in the whole game. Hidden home run power by just about every one, even the zero homer guys, I've hit 450-footers with Billy Hatcher (.111 Avg, 0 hr) before.
Most of the players in that game have ratings directly based on their stats (for example, the top HR guy in the league gets 945 power, and it goes down from there, I think), but there must've been a Cubs fan doing some of the ratings work, because they have high-power guys throughout the lineup.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/21/08, 10:23:27 AM
You'd rather play Bases Loaded?! Take that back! TAKE IT BACK, DAMMIT!
Bases Loaded was truely horrible wasn't it? Good lord was it tough to time the hitting. The only thing I liked about it was when you strike out you here a voice saying, "you bum"
The pitching/hitting was the only good part of the original Bases Loaded (other than the fact that you could get guys to charge the mound). The fielding was absolutely horrific - everyone moved like they were on skates, balls didn't seem to fall at the right speed - making fly balls really hard to judge - and bounced off the field like they were made of rubber, and they switched the B and A buttons from every other baseball game in existence.
Bases Loaded 3 was fairly enjoyable, however, and endorsed by Ryne Sandberg. While the lack of season mode was disappointing, it was one of the few sports games that you could actually "beat" - you were judged on how well you played the game (avoiding errors, pickoffs, etc.), and the goal was to play a perfect game and win against an opponent on the highest difficulty level.
i was just going to talk about bases loaded 3.
rbi
rb3
bases loaded 3
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complete shit after that.
Quote from: Shooty on 11/21/08, 01:32:31 PM
Quote from: RBIwut on 11/20/08, 10:14:33 PM
2 & 3 were cool because I'm a Jays fan & they owned both games 8)
You're not a Canadian, are you?
Yes I are
Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/21/08, 02:54:28 PM
The pitching/hitting was the only good part of the original Bases Loaded (other than the fact that you could get guys to charge the mound). The fielding was absolutely horrific - everyone moved like they were on skates, balls didn't seem to fall at the right speed - making fly balls really hard to judge - and bounced off the field like they were made of rubber, and they switched the B and A buttons from every other baseball game in existence.
Bases Loaded 3 was fairly enjoyable, however, and endorsed by Ryne Sandberg. While the lack of season mode was disappointing, it was one of the few sports games that you could actually "beat" - you were judged on how well you played the game (avoiding errors, pickoffs, etc.), and the goal was to play a perfect game and win against an opponent on the highest difficulty level.
i think bases loaded has some good tunes...their background music that sound a lot like RBI's is good, as is the "other tune"...i whistle it in preparation for every baseball season. the bullpen cart is cool, and i also like saying "PLAY BALL" in an odd fashion, as they do. the game itself blows, other than the pitching motions (i like the herky-jerky pitching motion) but it's good to put in once a year or so to view all the extras.
I loved RBI 2.
I was a huge fan of Bases Loaded 2 --- bio rhythms, etc made it fun. The view was odd, but once you got used to it, it was fun.
i actually grew up on RBI 2 instead of the original. my dad bought the game for himself, so I had no choice. diving and jumping is fun, as well as knowing how far your dingers go, but that wont make up for how good the original is.
Quote from: nomaaa on 11/21/08, 07:02:55 PM
i was just going to talk about bases loaded 3.
rbi
rb3
Baseball Stars
Baseball Simulator 1.000
bases loaded 3
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complete shit after that.
Baseball Simulator and Baseball Stars were both quality games - the team creation was pretty cool, especially in Baseball Stars where you had to earn money to improve your players. Baseball Simulator had very RBI-like gameplay, but with season mode, and the computer could be a challenge if you used a regular team against the Ultra Teams (which had better stats and super powers).
Not sure if Little League Baseball qualifies for this list - it had the same quality gameplay engine as Baseball Stars.
There were a lot of crappy baseball games, though - Bo Jackson, Roger Clemens, and the original Bases Loaded come immediately to mind.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/24/08, 09:40:21 AM
Quote from: nomaaa on 11/21/08, 07:02:55 PM
i was just going to talk about bases loaded 3.
rbi
rb3
Baseball Stars
Baseball Simulator 1.000
bases loaded 3
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complete shit after that.
Baseball Simulator and Baseball Stars were both quality games - the team creation was pretty cool, especially in Baseball Stars where you had to earn money to improve your players. Baseball Simulator had very RBI-like gameplay, but with season mode, and the computer could be a challenge if you used a regular team against the Ultra Teams (which had better stats and super powers).
Not sure if Little League Baseball qualifies for this list - it had the same quality gameplay engine as Baseball Stars.
There were a lot of crappy baseball games, though - Bo Jackson, Roger Clemens, and the original Bases Loaded come immediately to mind.
I forgot about baseball simulator and baseball stars. Stars was tough from what I remember. Simulator was too but too gimmicky with the special features. I never played Bases Loaded 2 I don't believe since the first was so awful.
Anybody play Tommy Lasorda baseball? I have it for Sega Genesis. Cool game but does take some time to play a full game. You can do things like shift the outfield which is cool.
Quote from: Brookensrules! on 11/24/08, 10:32:21 AM
I forgot about baseball simulator and baseball stars. Stars was tough from what I remember.
The AI was much better for this game than RBI and Baseball Simulator, helped by a few innovations like not having you control every fielder at the same time (you got either the closest guy or an infielder and an outfielder, I think, and the computer took the others, setting up cutoff men and backing you up). Once you got your team powered up, they could get really good, and the computer would be pretty easy, but you had to beat up on the Lovely Ladies for awhile to get them there.
Quote from: Brookensrules! on 11/24/08, 10:32:21 AM
Simulator was too but too gimmicky with the special features.
If you used the other teams, it was a pretty solid game, kind of like RBI with a season mode. The AI was just as bad as RBI's, though, so I usually made a custom league with one regular team and five Ultra Teams just to make things a little more even. Another negative of this game was that the computer vs. computer simulations took a long time - several minutes.
Quote from: Brookensrules! on 11/24/08, 10:32:21 AM
I never played Bases Loaded 2 I don't believe since the first was so awful.
I have also never played 2 - in fact, I've never even seen it anywhere. You may want to give 3 a try - once you get used to the upside-down fielding perspective, it's a pretty neat game, and the Bases Loaded pitching setup gives it a little more realistic style of game.
i always feel like i needto mention bad news baseball when we discuss other games. i don't think many people know of this game, but if you have an emulator, look it up. (i know i've posted it here before too). i feel it's the best game next to rbi. the defense is better and the individual players have arm strength and speed attributes. you can custom pick your allstar team. there's also a complete other league if you hold b on controller two while the opening screen comesup (look it up, i don't remember it exactly, i have the save stat saved for my rom). so it's a pretty awesome game. the only thing better would beif there was an editor for it. the roseters are bigger, and i'm pretty sure it's 12 teams as opposed to 10 in rbi. i believe the game is ALMOST better than rbi, but i just can't go that far.
I think Roger Clemens Baseball is ok, the made up names are weird, but the season stats are the same I think. Bo Jackson Baseball, that's different. The "GUCCCCCH" sound of the ball hitting the bat, the digitized voices "HE WAS SAFE BY A MILE!" and the animated scoreboards are amusing, but swinging the bat is so slow, it's hard to get the timing down, and I can't remember if you can move the batter around in the box or not, I don't think you can.
Baseball Simulator 1.000 was the shit when I was a kid (well after RBI). I once played a 165 game season using just one team. The watch games take forever, either way you do it. The hitters get so weak near the middle & end that you can only pretty much bunt to score runs, but I was using Detroit.
I just tried Bases Loaded a while back, that game really does suck. Graphically impressive and the sounds are crisp & clear, but it's just too damn hard for me to hit a pitch....
Baseball Stars is the only one I could compare to RBI, I had a friend who had B.S. and it was like the coolest thing.
Major League Baseball has to be the worst of the bunch. It's fun smacking homers, but I dunno, the game is just fucking terrible. The fielders throw so slow and anything hit to the left side of the infield is always a hit, and all grounders stop on a dime, it's stupid!!!!