What trades have taken place that consisted only of RBI players being swapped for other RBI players???
For example, the Tommy Herr for Tom Brunansky would work.
I should broaden it to include trades that have at least one RBI player on each side of the trade
FYI....I only know two instances but I am sure there are more
oops, 3 including the Herr/ Brunansky trade
Jer,
Is one of the 2 you are thinking of...
future CY Young Mike Scott for Danny Heep ???
Or how about Frank Viola for my main man Rich Aguilera ???
...for the RBI Pirate...
it's Rick, not Rich (TYPO)
Aguilera is not in RBI
No he is not in the game, the Heep for Scott deal is a good answer though
he's not a reliever for the Amazins'?
Nah B, McDowell and Orosco in that pen
Wasn't there a 3 way trade involving Cal Ripkin, George Brett and Al Pedrique? It's a fair trade since they're all all-stars.
you're right. my bad. It's McDowell in the pen. My bad, my NES was smashed into 300 pieces last April at Bally's Vegas. I took $210 in action against "Bert No_No," as he defeated the Bachelor.
Kevin Bass for HOFer Don Sutton
Quote from: what_foul_pole on 11/16/04, 02:05:49 PM
Or how about Frank Viola for my main man Rich Aguilera ???
awesome display of RBI knowledge. i'm the dumbass though. LOL.
Perhaps you're both dumbasses? ;)
Uh, I guess I'll be the one to officially drag Vit into this argument, since that's what I seem to do...hello Vit. Nice argument you have going in the Anything goes section.
Good times. ::)
Quote from: JoeDirt on 11/16/04, 02:27:25 PM
Perhaps you're both dumbasses? ;)
Uh, I guess I'll be the one to officially drag Vit into this argument, since that's what I seem to do...hello Vit. Nice argument you have going in the Anything goes section.
Good times. ::)
I am a self-proclaimed moron, which makes foul pole seem even more pathetic.
RBI Pirate:
We welcome you to create a MLB trivia question as it pertains to RBI....
you seem to have a keen ability to reverse look-up your stats online in a quick-fashion (your cubicle must be in 'Storage B')
creating RBI trivia is not that easy. Go ahead.
you have the same post in the other thread
Quote from: what_foul_pole on 11/16/04, 02:40:47 PM
RBI Pirate:
We welcome you to create a MLB trivia question as it pertains to RBI....
you seem to have a keen ability to reverse look-up your stats online in a quick-fashion (your cubicle must be in 'Storage B')
creating RBI trivia is not that easy. Go ahead.
i have done this. no, i did not "reverse look up" my statistic. an example off the top of my head was the most RBIs in a season by an RBIer, which i knew the answer to.
research is not overated. you clearly need to do some.
Alright, since there was minimal interest in my thread (which I thought was a good one) I will share the ones that I had.
Tony Armas/ Phil Garner
Tony Armas was traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Doug Bair, Dave Giusti, Rick Langford, Doc Medich, and Mitchell Page to the Oakland Athletics for Phil Garner, Tommy Helms, and Chris Batton
And even more amazing, a trade that swapped two RBI legends in Twinkie Town, who end up on the same team at Tengen Field:
Greg Gagne/Roy Smalley
Roy Smalley was traded by the Minnesota Twins to the New York Yankees for Ron Davis, Paul Boris, and Greg Gagne.
Nice work, Blyleven, I think the lack of interest was due to the fact that we all had no clue what the answer was.
Quote from: Blyleven_No-No on 11/16/04, 03:30:54 PM
Alright, since there was minimal interest in my thread (which I thought was a good one)
I agree that this is a good idea for a thread. Often, great threads receive few responses on topic.
Keep these threads coming. You've been on a roll lately.
I believe that this is a complete list of every trade that involved two or more RBIers being traded for each other as part of a deal. All trade information comes from Baseball Reference.
Don Baylor:
April 2, 1976: Traded by the Baltimore Orioles with Paul Mitchell and Mike Torrez to the Oakland Athletics for Reggie Jackson, Ken Holtzman, and Bill Van Bommell (minors).
Tony Armas:
March 15, 1977: Traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Doug Bair, Dave Giusti, Rick Langford, Doc Medich, and Mitchell Page to the Oakland Athletics for Phil Garner, Tommy Helms, and Chris Batton.
Calvin Schiraldi:
November 13, 1985: Traded by the New York Mets with John Christensen, Wes Gardner, and La Schelle Tarver to the Boston Red Sox for Tom McCarthy, Bob Ojeda, John Mitchell, and Chris Bayer (minors).
George Hendrick:
December 12, 1984: Traded by the St. Louis Cardinals with Steve Barnard (minors) to the Pittsburgh Pirates for John Tudor and Brian Harper.
Rob Wilfong:
May 12, 1982: Traded by the Minnesota Twins with Doug Corbett to the California Angels for Tom Brunansky, Mike Walters, and $400000 cash.
Don Sutton:
August 30, 1982: Traded by the Houston Astros to the Milwaukee Brewers for players to be named later and cash. The Milwaukee Brewers sent Kevin Bass (September 3, 1982), Frank DiPino (September 3, 1982), and Mike Madden (September 3, 1982) to the Houston Astros to complete the trade.
Matt Nokes:
October 7, 1985: Traded by the San Francisco Giants with Eric King and Dave LaPoint to the Detroit Tigers for a player to be named later, Juan Berenguer, and Bob Melvin. The Detroit Tigers sent Scott Medvin (December 11, 1985) to the San Francisco Giants to complete the trade.
Mike Heath:
November 10, 1978: Traded by the New York Yankees with Sparky Lyle, Larry McCall, Dave Rajsich, Domingo Ramos, and cash to the Texas Rangers for Dave Righetti, Juan Beniquez, Mike Griffin, Paul Mirabella, and Greg Jemison (minors).
Mike Scott:
December 10, 1982: Traded by the New York Mets to the Houston Astros for Danny Heep.
Tom Brunansky:
April 22, 1988: Traded by the Minnesota Twins to the St. Louis Cardinals for Tom Herr.
Greg Gagne:
April 10, 1982: Traded by the New York Yankees with Paul Boris and Ron Davis to the Minnesota Twins for Roy Smalley.
Roy Smalley:
June 1, 1976: Traded by the Texas Rangers with Mike Cubbage, Jim Gideon, Bill Singer, and $250,000 cash to the Minnesota Twins for Bert Blyleven and Danny Thompson.
Jose Uribe:
February 1, 1985: Traded by the St. Louis Cardinals with David Green, Dave LaPoint, and Gary Rajsich to the San Francisco Giants for Jack Clark.
John Tudor:
August 16, 1988: Traded by the St. Louis Cardinals to the Los Angeles Dodgers for Pedro Guerrero.
Usc is quickly becoming a true dee-nee forum legend, good stuff!
You guys think I should make a page about this on the Miscellany page?
Yeah. It's interesting stuff.
Speaking of "stuff," did you know that a guy is 10x more likely to say "stuff," and a woman is more likely to say, "things."
Ah, marketing statistics. :-\
Quit making stuff up
Quote from: Gantry on 11/16/04, 05:29:52 PM
Usc is quickly becoming a true dee-nee forum legend
True, but keep in mind that he did try on women's shoes.
Also, I should admit that I did take the EasySpirit Challenge once - they DO look like a pump but feel like a sneaker!
Quote from: Gantry on 11/16/04, 05:29:52 PM
Usc is quickly becoming a true dee-nee forum legend, good stuff!
You guys think I should make a page about this on the Miscellany page?
Nice work USC, I would say this should be added.
Rob Wilfong:
May 12, 1982: Traded by the Minnesota Twins with Doug Corbett to the California Angels for Tom Brunansky, Mike Walters, and $400000 cash.
Interesting stuff, who got the better edge in this deal??? I know Brunansky is a horse for the Twins, but getting Wilfong AND Corbett in return??? That would be a solid pickup. Wilfong is kind of like a poor man's Brunansky.
I'll add the trades to the misc page today, you guys reply/PM if I don't get it done...
git r done
Booyah! Linked from the RBI Miscellany Page (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/misc.shtml):
http://dee-nee.com/rbi/misc/trades.shtml
i wonder why no trades occured after 88.... that's some drop-off. fighton, did you not search for the years after that? just wondering
That is a weird, though you have to remember there are only 160 players in RBI, as players retired and stopped playing the # dropped making trades involving them much less likely.
Combine that with escalating salaries and the fact that many of the remaining RBIers were strong players less likely to be traded.
I think that Ultimate7's assessment seemed pretty accurate. Keep in mind that a lot of RBI players were in their final few seasons, and a lot were retired by 1988. This makes it less likely that a trade involving one RBI player would involve another RBI player in return. And also, a lot of the RBI for RBI trades happened when both players were part of a multiple player deal, usually when they were in the earlier stages of their career.