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Title: Julio in the Hall?
Post by: GreatScott on 12/03/04, 09:44:33 AM
If Julio ever retires, should he be elected to the hall?
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: Gantry on 12/03/04, 09:46:05 AM
I don't think he has the raw stats to get more than a handful of votes.  If he plays until 50, a feat haven't seen in a REALLY long time (Paige?) then perhaps he'll get a small amount of consideration.  But it is very unlikely unless he wins a batting title or two before he retires...
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/03/04, 09:52:43 AM
He currently has 2457 career hits (99 last year) with a .300 career batting avg.  If he really plays 5 more years (then he will be 50) and averages 110 hits/yr while maintaining a .295 career average, he would have 3000 hits.  I think you got to put him in the HOF.

Note all the above is a long shot.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: T Roogs on 12/03/04, 10:46:23 AM
Does 3000 hits mean HOF? I know 500 Hr's does, but its not the same, especially when you play 36 years in the majors.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: Bonny on 12/03/04, 11:02:23 AM
Every member of the 3000 hit club is in the HOF. Except for Rose.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/03/04, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: T Roogs on 12/03/04, 10:46:23 AM
when you play 36 years in the majors.

I think playing 36 years in the majors should automatically put you in the HOF.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: fknmclane on 12/03/04, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 12/03/04, 11:10:19 AM
Quote from: T Roogs on 12/03/04, 10:46:23 AM
when you play 36 years in the majors.

I think playing 36 years in the majors should automatically put you in the HOF.

This is tought to argue.  And if he can miraculously rip off 3000 hits, the guy is a fucking lock.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: GreatScott on 12/03/04, 03:34:03 PM
I think Julio deserves to be in the HOF if he plays another 3-5 years, regardless of whether or not he hits 3000.  He resurrected his career in the late 90s at the age of 40 after bumming around the mexican league for a while.  We will probably never see another player playing this well at age 45+ ever again.  And in reality he might even be older.  I think there is something to be said for a guy who just goes out and plays until its just goddam impossible for him to run, catch, or swing.  Its in stark contrast to most guys who want to go out 'honorably' or right after winning a championship.  Julio goes out there and quitely puts up the numbers.  Nobody really cares, but hes still plugging ... playing better than most guys in the league that are half his age.  Julio plays because he loves the game.  I think his career and the example he sets is worth remembering.  
It would be a bronze plaque worth reading, which is more than one can say for many of the uninteresting shmos that have been enshired.  
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: what_foul_pole on 12/03/04, 04:19:05 PM
If he gets to 3000 hits, he will be a first ballot inductee.  Good luck with that Julio.

Two RBI's will be forgotten and toil away into obscurity, ALTHOUGH THEY BOTH BELONG IN THE HALL OF FAME.....

ANDRE DAWSON
JACK MORRIS

The Hall is losing credibility when Tony Perez and Orlando Cepeda are in and the above two have been and will continue to be snubbed.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: Gantry on 12/03/04, 06:28:18 PM
I can't see Franco playing 5 years more, and even if he does he won't be averaging 110 hits a year...
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: Ryno23 on 12/03/04, 07:03:41 PM
Julio's a toker?
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: BeeJay on 12/03/04, 07:12:54 PM
Quote from: Ryno23 on 12/03/04, 07:03:41 PM
Julio's a toker?

Yea, a midnight toker.  I think Julio's going to be playing Blernsball in a few years.
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/03/04, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: GreatScott on 12/03/04, 03:34:03 PM
I think Julio deserves to be in the HOF if he plays another 3-5 years, regardless of whether or not he hits 3000.  He resurrected his career in the late 90s at the age of 40 after bumming around the mexican league for a while.  We will probably never see another player playing this well at age 45+ ever again.  And in reality he might even be older.  I think there is something to be said for a guy who just goes out and plays until its just goddam impossible for him to run, catch, or swing.  Its in stark contrast to most guys who want to go out 'honorably' or right after winning a championship.  Julio goes out there and quitely puts up the numbers.  Nobody really cares, but hes still plugging ... playing better than most guys in the league that are half his age.  Julio plays because he loves the game.  I think his career and the example he sets is worth remembering.  
It would be a bronze plaque worth reading, which is more than one can say for many of the uninteresting shmos that have been enshired.  

Complete speculation, sure--but if I had to guess, I'd guess Julio is juiced, too.  He probably got it with/from Sheffield in Atlanta...

...that would change things.  AND more importantly, that'd grow the known RBI steroid users to three:

Canseco, Santiago...
Title: Re:Julio in the Hall?
Post by: Shooty on 12/06/04, 02:38:05 PM
No way.  Someone like Al "Scoop" Oliver would be more deserving...and he ain't getting in (and he has closer to 2,800 hits and he wore zero as a number).  You can't get better than that.