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Title: Glossary
Post by: Big Apple RBI Champ on 07/25/02, 07:06:05 AM
Let me once again give mad props to Gantry for his site.  I just looked at the Glossary for the first time.  It is chock full of excellent terms.  Let me make one submission.  What you call "Tettleton", we call "Knoblauch".  The stance works surprisingly well, but can often result in pulling balls foul.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Gantry on 07/25/02, 07:47:40 AM
Added Knoblauch to the Tettleton definition as an alternate term....

I like to use the Tettleton with powerful righties that I'm slumping with.  Though you have to make sure the bases are empty, because the Tettleton hits are much m ore ground-ball prone...

My best Tettleton moment was when I hit one with Davidson.  It was the first dinger I ever got with him, off Potsie of course...
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: TβG on 03/09/05, 01:28:37 PM
i'd like to add two terms, see what you guys think:

Spiderman:  when the first baseman moves laterally to catch a low line drive then returns to firstbase to step on the bag because he's anticiapating NOT catching the ball.  I think this only happens with human controlled players.  What this looks like is the fielder does the "saturday night fever" stab with his glove, but the immediate motion as he moves in the opposite direction to run to first base gives the appearance that he has snagged the ball with a web shooting out of his hand.

fire hydrant:  when you hit a line-drive directly back the the pitcher and he catches it without moving.  the pitcher just stands there and doesn't extend the glove or anything to catch the ball.  becuase of his portly stature he's just standing there with the ball, looking like a fire-hydrant.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/09/05, 03:29:05 PM
Forgot to mention his earlier.  Last night was playing my ex college roommate.  I had Burlsn pinch hitting for Witt.  He hit a long hooking line drive down the line.  The left fielder was up against the wall right where the fair line meats the left field wall.  The left fielder caught the ball, but it was called a HOME RUN.  I have never seen this before.  Do we have a term for this?  It is not quite a Wallzie since it never went through the wall.
Antother thing that was odd about this, is the ball was clearly a half a body length foul by where the left fielder was holding the ball up after catching it.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: JoeDirt on 03/09/05, 03:37:23 PM
was this online or on NES?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/09/05, 03:39:17 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 03/09/05, 03:37:23 PM
was this online or on NES?

Online.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/09/05, 03:29:05 PM
Forgot to mention his earlier. Last night was playing my ex college roommate. I had Burlsn pinch hitting for Witt. He hit a long hooking line drive down the line. The left fielder was up against the wall right where the fair line meats the left field wall. The left fielder caught the ball, but it was called a HOME RUN. I have never seen this before. Do we have a term for this? It is not quite a Wallzie since it never went through the wall.
Antother thing that was odd about this, is the ball was clearly a half a body length foul by where the left fielder was holding the ball up after catching it.

Bizzare.  I've seen something similar with popups behind home plate.  The catcher catches it at the wall, ball in hand, and it's called foul.  This is probably common knowlegde of course, and i'm wasting everyone's time reading this.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: BeefMaster on 03/09/05, 04:13:04 PM
Quote from: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:00:14 PM
Bizzare.  I've seen something similar with popups behind home plate.  The catcher catches it at the wall, ball in hand, and it's called foul.  This is probably common knowlegde of course, and i'm wasting everyone's time reading this.

I've seen this with popups down the baselines, too.

Stock's glitch is crazy, though - I've never seen that.  It sounds similar to the glitch Nails mentioned, just on the opposite fence.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/09/05, 04:13:22 PM
QuoteBizzare.  I've seen something similar with popups behind home plate.  The catcher catches it at the wall, ball in hand, and it's called foul.  This is probably common knowlegde of course, and i'm wasting everyone's time reading this.

That is EXACTLY what it was like, except called fair.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:17:42 PM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/09/05, 04:13:22 PM
QuoteBizzare.  I've seen something similar with popups behind home plate.  The catcher catches it at the wall, ball in hand, and it's called foul.  This is probably common knowlegde of course, and i'm wasting everyone's time reading this.

That is EXACTLY what it was like, except called fair.


It's kind of like the evil opposite of the grand slam out (which i've never seen either).  Weird wild stuff.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/09/05, 04:20:54 PM
What's the grand slam out?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/09/05, 04:20:54 PM
What's the grand slam out?

From the glossary (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/glossary.shtml):

Hitting a grand slam that is called out - This has happened twice, both times to Lipitz. I only saw one, where he hit a granny to left that stayed in the stadium and was called out as soon as it hit the ground. This has to be the worst glitch out there.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: TβG on 03/10/05, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Teddyballgame113 on 03/09/05, 01:28:37 PM
i'd like to add two terms, see what you guys think:

Spiderman:  when the first baseman moves laterally to catch a low line drive then returns to firstbase to step on the bag because he's anticiapating NOT catching the ball.  I think this only happens with human controlled players.  What this looks like is the fielder does the "saturday night fever" stab with his glove, but the immediate motion as he moves in the opposite direction to run to first base gives the appearance that he has snagged the ball with a web shooting out of his hand.

fire hydrant:  when you hit a line-drive directly back to the pitcher and he catches it without moving.  the pitcher just stands there and doesn't extend the glove or anything to catch the ball.  becuase of his portly stature he's just standing there with the ball, looking like a fire-hydrant.

can i get some reaction from my first point?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/10/05, 10:55:16 AM
Quote from: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/09/05, 04:20:54 PM
What's the grand slam out?

From the glossary (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/glossary.shtml):

Hitting a grand slam that is called out - This has happened twice, both times to Lipitz. I only saw one, where he hit a granny to left that stayed in the stadium and was called out as soon as it hit the ground. This has to be the worst glitch out there.

I don't think this is a glitch.  This happened to us in college a few times, then we figure out why this happened.  If you hit a high fly home run ball, but are screwing around with your base runners, sometimes you will end up with 2 base runners on the same base right before the "Home Run" is called.  This will result in an "OUT".
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Nails on 03/10/05, 10:58:57 AM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/10/05, 10:55:16 AM
I don't think this is a glitch. This happened to us in college a few times, then we figure out why this happened. If you hit a high fly home run ball, but are screwing around with your base runners, sometimes you will end up with 2 base runners on the same base right before the "Home Run" is called. This will result in an "OUT".

Anythings possible.  You'd have to get Gantry or Lips' thoughts on that.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Nails on 03/10/05, 11:00:36 AM
Quote from: Teddyballgame113 on 03/10/05, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: Teddyballgame113 on 03/09/05, 01:28:37 PM
i'd like to add two terms, see what you guys think:

Spiderman:  when the first baseman moves laterally to catch a low line drive then returns to firstbase to step on the bag because he's anticiapating NOT catching the ball.  I think this only happens with human controlled players.  What this looks like is the fielder does the "saturday night fever" stab with his glove, but the immediate motion as he moves in the opposite direction to run to first base gives the appearance that he has snagged the ball with a web shooting out of his hand.

fire hydrant:  when you hit a line-drive directly back to the pitcher and he catches it without moving.  the pitcher just stands there and doesn't extend the glove or anything to catch the ball.  becuase of his portly stature he's just standing there with the ball, looking like a fire-hydrant.

can i get some reaction from my first point?

I think they're great suggestions.  That is all.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Lips on 03/10/05, 11:28:39 AM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/10/05, 10:55:16 AM
Quote from: Nails on 03/09/05, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: stockw19 on 03/09/05, 04:20:54 PM
What's the grand slam out?

From the glossary (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/glossary.shtml):

Hitting a grand slam that is called out - This has happened twice, both times to Lipitz. I only saw one, where he hit a granny to left that stayed in the stadium and was called out as soon as it hit the ground. This has to be the worst glitch out there.

I don't think this is a glitch. This happened to us in college a few times, then we figure out why this happened. If you hit a high fly home run ball, but are screwing around with your base runners, sometimes you will end up with 2 base runners on the same base right before the "Home Run" is called. This will result in an "OUT".

We have touched on this before, and while what you (stockw19) say has merit and may possibly be right...I'm not 100% sure.  I mean, either the Dee-Nee house's older Nintendo or cartridge was nutty.  Gantry used to always get the "Fucked up substitution" glitch too.  Although, we don't play as much as we used to...I can't even remember the last time Gantry or anyone else got that glitch.

One thing that I do know is...I don't fuck around with my baserunners as much, just in case that was the problem.

But if it was the problem, the one thing that I question is...why would I, BOTH times, fuck up the baserunners if there were 2 outs?  I would either be sending them or not touching the controller.  If there were two outs, I shouldn't have been doing the run back and forth thing.  Of course, I could have been drunk (or stupid) both times, not knowing how many outs there were.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Lips on 03/10/05, 11:31:58 AM
The reason why I mention two outs is because both times that the "Hitting a grand slam that is called out" glitch occured, 0 runs scored.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: TβG on 03/11/05, 02:37:08 PM
Quote from: Teddyballgame113 on 03/09/05, 01:28:37 PM
i'd like to add two terms, see what you guys think:

Spiderman:  when the first baseman moves laterally to catch a low line drive then returns to firstbase to step on the bag because he's anticiapating NOT catching the ball.  I think this only happens with human controlled players.  What this looks like is the fielder does the "saturday night fever" stab with his glove, but the immediate motion as he moves in the opposite direction to run to first base gives the appearance that he has snagged the ball with a web shooting out of his hand.

fire hydrant:  when you hit a line-drive directly back the the pitcher and he catches it without moving.  the pitcher just stands there and doesn't extend the glove or anything to catch the ball.  becuase of his portly stature he's just standing there with the ball, looking like a fire-hydrant.


i wanted to see if gantry would add these, i'd like to contribute to the glossary for posterity... and by "posterity," i mean i'm an attention whore.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 03/11/05, 04:43:39 PM
Never seen the "spiderman" before.  Still trying to picture what this would look like.

We have always just referred to the "firehydrant" as a "look what I found".  When there is a "bop" on an attempted "firehydrant' we call it a "Fleming" because of the time Dave Fleming got nailed in the head with a line drive.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Baines on 03/11/05, 07:36:31 PM
QuoteWe have always just referred to the "firehydrant" as a "look what I found".  When there is a "bop" on an attempted "firehydrant' we call it a "Fleming" because of the time Dave Fleming got nailed in the head with a line drive.

We've always called that a Bill Swift.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: bigbrothermuscle on 01/22/10, 08:38:08 PM
Ladies and gentlemen of the Dee-Nee Forums, I'd like to offer a new term suitable for the Glossary if possible. I present to you...the "Counsell"

How to perform the Counsell is this as explained by my friend Kyle.

"Before the pitcher begins his motion, you press and hold the A button so that the batter's body is contorted and the bat is seemingly straight up. You're now in the Counsell stance. Release A as the pitcher begins his windup and swing as the pitch comes across the plate."

He uses this is as a timing mechanism against fastball pitchers (eg Ryan, Clemens). Oddly enough, it works. Named for the truly awful and awkward batting stance used by former Diamondbacks 1st baseman Craig Counsell. It is also a great stance to use to taunt your opponent, especially if your opponent is crucially being slaughtered.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Turd on 01/22/10, 08:59:13 PM
Counsell is fucking clutch.  He SHOULD have a term named after him...
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: TbT on 01/22/10, 09:35:12 PM
A buddy and I played RBI tonight.  Late in the game he brings in Franco(NL) and is met with "the greeter" solo bomb.  Good times. 
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: fknmclane on 01/22/10, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: bigbrothermuscle on 01/22/10, 08:38:08 PM
Ladies and gentlemen of the Dee-Nee Forums, I'd like to offer a new term suitable for the Glossary if possible. I present to you...the "Counsell"

How to perform the Counsell is this as explained by my friend Kyle.

"Before the pitcher begins his motion, you press and hold the A button so that the batter's body is contorted and the bat is seemingly straight up. You're now in the Counsell stance. Release A as the pitcher begins his windup and swing as the pitch comes across the plate."

He uses this is as a timing mechanism against fastball pitchers (eg Ryan, Clemens). Oddly enough, it works. Named for the truly awful and awkward batting stance used by former Diamondbacks 1st baseman Craig Counsell. It is also a great stance to use to taunt your opponent, especially if your opponent is crucially being slaughtered.

Sounds like a cousin of the Tettleton.  I like it.  Has to be a bitch to hit like this.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: bigbrothermuscle on 01/23/10, 02:41:03 PM
It's the most awkward and wild swing, but it works most of the time. Kyle beat me in our most recent game. He was Boston and I San Francisco. Put it to you this way, he used the "Counsell" with Jim Rice. Rice went deep twice with 5 RBIs and the second homerun hit didn't come down.

Naturally, he was the MVP of that game, and oddly enough, he used it with Spike Owen too and got an RBI triple out of it. I'd recommend it personally to see what you all think.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 02:42:08 PM
Counsell hit a home run against the Reds in honor of Dee-nee fest last summer.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: fknmclane on 01/23/10, 08:14:57 PM
Quote from: bigbrothermuscle on 01/23/10, 02:41:03 PM
Naturally, he was the MVP of that game, and oddly enough, he used it with Spike Owen too and got an RBI triple out of it. I'd recommend it personally to see what you all think.

The Counsell working to perfection is all well and good, but why is Spike Owen getting even one at bat?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: nomaaa on 01/23/10, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/23/10, 02:42:08 PM
Counsell hit a home run against the Reds in honor of Dee-nee fest last summer.

seriously, it was a laughable homerun, if one exists
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: bigbrothermuscle on 01/25/10, 06:47:51 PM
Oh, Spike Owen got a few AB's because Kyle liked to taunt me while I played him with a way-off San Francisco team (Kevin Mitchell's "week" was to suck at the plate big time.)

I didn't see Counsell's homerun, but it must've been awkward as hell.

What do the powers that be think of "The Counsell"?  Only the best terms are accepted, aka Gantry's Gauntlet.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/26/10, 08:19:21 AM
The Counsell is an interesting idea.  I think it would screw me up to use, but I'm going to try it against the computer just to see.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: ultimate7 on 04/25/11, 12:44:39 PM
I'm trying to picture the Counsell, wouldn't it work only in straight pitch?  In curve you could just throw one a foot off the plate and it would be a swinging strike, right?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/11, 01:14:01 PM
Yep, similar to how you miss a bunt.  But I'm guessing you can bring it back and if you don't "reswing" then it would be a ball. 
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 04/25/11, 03:32:26 PM
Yeah, it seems like a way to try to time the pitch.
I think it would just screw me up more than anything though.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: The Greeter on 06/04/11, 03:21:08 PM
I'd still like to add to the glossary "The Greeter", the source of my screenname. 

"The Greeter" refers to the high likelyhood (though never officially proven) that the first pitch frrom a relief pitcher in RBI gets launched into the stands for a Home Run.  Followed always by the required cry of "The Greeter!"  Based purely on years and years of RBI experience.

My former RBI friends (in California) were so convinced of this that we almost ALWAYS threw the first pitch from a reliever in an unhittable spot (way outside or in the dirt) to avoid "The Greeter".  Now that I'm in Chicago NW suburbs, will have to find a new group that likes (1) beer and (2) RBI to keep this term alive.

Happy RBI'ing.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Attezz on 06/04/11, 03:40:25 PM
Very few RBI players who like beer in Chicagoland.

Good luck though!
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Gantry on 06/06/11, 03:11:59 PM
Where in the NW burbs?
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Stock on 06/06/11, 03:21:06 PM
I like the "greeter".

We have also noticed this playing in college, and anytime this happened, it would be followed by, "WELCOME TO THE GAME, BITCH".

Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: fightonusc on 06/06/11, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 06/06/11, 03:11:59 PM
Where in the NW burbs?

Granted, I'm not totally familiar with Chicago geography, but I believe The Greeter is currently living inside your mom.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: TβG on 06/07/11, 11:37:06 PM
a hearty chuckle was had...
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Gantry on 06/08/11, 03:42:47 AM
AT MY MOTHER'S EXPENSE!!!
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: The Greeter on 06/10/11, 08:34:43 AM
Ahh, my "Greeter" reputation continues it seems <ROTFL>.

Not sure this goes into the glossary, but we also have a ritual involving the song at the beginning of an RBI game.  Not sure how best to describe it:  Music starts, and goes through three "stanzas", followed by a quick pause, and then the main song plays.  At the quick pause, we require a high five timed with the pause between the sections.  To not do the high five is considered seriously taboo, like breaking a chain letter (!).

NW Suburbs = Lake Zurich.  Local RBI'ers, anyone?

BTW - New Glarus brewery, awesome.  Got to cross the border into WI to buy it, but worth the trip. 
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: rbichamp on 06/10/11, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 07/25/02, 07:47:40 AM
Added Knoblauch to the Tettleton definition as an alternate term....

I like to use the Tettleton with powerful righties that I'm slumping with.  Though you have to make sure the bases are empty, because the Tettleton hits are much m ore ground-ball prone...

My best Tettleton moment was when I hit one with Davidson.  It was the first dinger I ever got with him, off Potsie of course...


We just called it "the stance."  I don't know if its a bias of seeing Dwight Evans so many times on WSBK in the 1980s, but the stance kind of reminds me/us of him.
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: BDawk on 06/10/11, 09:00:22 AM
I just said "cocked bat".  As in "I hit it with the cocked bat"  Mainly because I pretend my bat is a cock
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: Reds on 06/10/11, 09:56:58 AM
oquendo
Title: Re: Glossary
Post by: ultimate7 on 06/11/11, 02:38:04 PM
Isn't Zorba in Lake Zurich?  Don't think he plays RBI though.