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Title: Name the Player
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/17/04, 02:24:27 PM
This NES RBier came up as a Catcher but never got more than 250 ABs in a season and only had 303 career hits.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: Flood on 12/17/04, 02:41:43 PM
without cheating....Steve Lake?
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: defen on 12/17/04, 02:43:28 PM
That's who I would have guessed, too.

Other guesses:
Bill Schroeder
Stinky Sullivan
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/17/04, 02:47:19 PM
Schroeder is correct

Sullivan had 67 career hits
Lake had 267 career hits

If it weren't for Pedrique, I think Shroeder would get quite a lot more heat for being an All-Star, he played in only 75 games in 1987 (as Milwaukees back up catcher), though he did have decent offensive stats for that year.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: Flood on 12/17/04, 02:48:53 PM
The RBI developers were on crack
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/17/04, 02:51:15 PM
I kinda think they weren't more than just casual baseball fans...mixing up Ellis Burks with Tim Burke and the selections they made.  They went purely for ratios--so if a guy and 5 HRs in 50 abs, he's a stud and has more power than a guy that hit 30 HRs (considered "power hitter" back then) in 500 abs.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/17/04, 02:57:55 PM
I think it was more random then that (I'm not sure the used ratios), also I'm not sure the Tim Burke - Ellis Burks thing is related.  Most of the programmers were Japanesse and probably didn't know MLB very well, I don't think they spent much time on the data, I don't think they ever expected it to be seen.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/17/04, 03:01:32 PM
Maybe so, but even if they didn't plan on it being seen, there's no way Lindeman should have more power than Baines...or Brookens more power than most players on the game...
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/17/04, 03:06:30 PM
So what about Tom Brookens, 13th most Power in the game, 1987 13 HRs in 444 AB, not a good ratio, I'm going with CurtFlood's crack theory.

Lindeman 8 HR 207 AB (this yields about 20 HR for a year).

Spilman 1 HR 90 AB (yields about 6 HR for season)

Simply put the data is somewhat random, not a lot of thought was put into, or the programmers simply had personal favorites.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: defen on 12/17/04, 03:10:03 PM
They just made most of the shit up, or gave extra power bonuses for bitchin mustaches.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/17/04, 03:46:32 PM
My whole point is that the programmers could not have been anything more than casual fans...your statistics above prove my point.  Thanks Ultimate.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/17/04, 03:47:36 PM
I think you just cheated in this discussion, but I'm not sure exactly how or when.
Title: Re:Name the Player
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/17/04, 03:53:08 PM
I WIN!  I WIN!  :)