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FightonUSC sent this to GreatScott and I, and I think he has already made his decision, I really hope he doesn't mind me posting it now, but just wondering what everyone else thought:


OK, I've run into a situation in your game today. I'm also sending a message to GreatScott to get his input as well. At the end of the day, my decision's going to be final, but I want your feedback as well. Just so you aren't biased in your thoughts, we will call the two teams Team A and Team B:

It's the eighth inning, and Team A has a runner on second with one out. Team A's batter hits a liner that just falls in front of the LF. But the runner on second is hesitating between going to third and staying. After fielding the ball, Team B's LF throws to the 3B. Meanwhile, the Team A runner on second is just frozen, not moving a few steps off of second base. The Team B 3B doesn't run at the runner or throw the ball to second; he's just frozen there as well.

The options here are:

a) call the game (as if it were a rain-shortened game)
b) replay the entire game (even though it went seven and 1/2 innings)
c) take control of the fielder and throw back to second base

Which option is the most logical for you? I hate to call the championship game early, but I also hate having "God" get involved.

Even if it were my team getting screwed by the play, I'd still say take control of the fielder and throw the runner out.   I just don't like the idea of ending games prematurely, and replaying simply voids 7.5 valid innings.

please explain further.  i am confused.  this is a watch game?  how do you re-take control of fielder?  and if you can re-take control of fielder, why can't you just hold the ball so it is runners at first and second?

I agree that getting "God" involved sucks, but taking control of the fielder seems like the most fair option, for the reasons Nails mentioned.

Big Apple - This is indeed a "Watch game".  You can take control of a team in watch mode by using one of the controllers.  When you quit, the computer picks up where you left off, I think.

I was writing a very long winded answer to this when I was automatically logged out.  But to make a long reply short, I think getting 'god involved' is the best solution.  Activate the third baseman and throw to second so the game goes on.  Its the only right way to solve this problem.

Throw his ass out.  It's the only way.

i don't understand why youy would throw him out.  if the game didn't glitch, the LF would throw to the 3B and the runner would go back to 2B, right?  why should he be out?

unanimous ... game on

Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 01/19/05, 10:24:08 AM
i don't understand why youy would throw him out. if the game didn't glitch, the LF would throw to the 3B and the runner would go back to 2B, right? why should he be out?

Because of this glitch, there's no way to force the runner to go back to 2nd.  He's just stuck there inbetween bases.  The game will sit there forever until the runner is either thrown out or the game is reset.

Whatever USC does is fine with me, I sure he's probably done it by now, I would have chosen what everyone else did, to take control of the fielder

Well we do know it went to the pens ...  cant wait to see what happened.

Quote from: GreatScott on 01/19/05, 11:38:56 AM
Well we do know it went to the pens.

I wouldn't have expected anything less

how has your pen faired this season ultimate7?  I figure it hasnt seen much action considering how many teams youve blown out

Early on all my games were close, Orosco has 4 wins, but like all bullpens inconsistent.

I told usc to end the game as it was a reset, but I'm glad he didn't take me advice.  Looks like everyone digs the throw option and I can't argue with that.  I just think of it as a premature ending of a game, but I still don't like my answer...

Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 01/19/05, 10:24:08 AM
i don't understand why youy would throw him out.  if the game didn't glitch, the LF would throw to the 3B and the runner would go back to 2B, right?  why should he be out?

Good point but not sure if it qualifies here.  I originally had the same thought.  It all depends on whether or not the computer thought it was a line drive or was running on contact.

With a line drive, the computer will obviously come off the bag a little and then go back if the ball is caught.

But if the computer for some reason was hauling ass on contact, thinking it was dropping anyway, he would be going to third and would get thrown out.

Ignoring all of the above, the fact is, if this happened in a game between two human players, the player stuck at second would be fucked.  That's why I voted to fuck him.

I say automatic forfeit to whichever team is Ultimate's...he's a philthy good for nothing cheater.

I wonder if USC is still waiting for the game to continue on its own, he still hasn't visited Dee-Nee today, I can see him just staring at the screen, waiting for the guy to finally return to 2B.

The suspense is killing me!

Sorry, I was out sick from work today, and the video and box score is on my work computer.

I had went ahead and taken control of the fielder and thrown to second as a provisional action. I figured if we decided to call the game, it didn't matter. So, video, recap, etc. to be hopefully posted tomorrow assuming that my sinuses clear up.

(And yes, it is a classic game. In Mexico, they might have even called it a Superclassico

This is one of the great dilemmas of our time.  After much deliberation, I've decided I would reset the game and start over.  I just think it's unfair to throw the guy out.  Too important of a situation.  I don't envy your predicament though.  Tough call.