I'm thinking of putting together an RBI ROM with 2005 rosters/teams, but I'd like some help. My main issue is with batting orders. I can just put together something based on stats and what I know about the players, but I'd like them to be accurate if possible. If there's a team you know especially well (the Twins are the only one I have complete mastery over), let me know.
Also, I'm planning on including the playoff teams from last year, which leaves two spots open. Right now, I'm planning on the A's and Giants, since they had the next-best records last year, but I'm open to suggestions if you think there would be better candidates based on this year's rosters.
Cubs (potential if you decide to included)
Note: As I write this I realize that I have no idea what actual order will be and Dusty probably doesn't know yet either,
Walker
Garciaparra
Patterson
Ramirez
Burnitz
Lee
Hollandsworth
Barrett
Really Lee should hit higher, possibly switching Lee and Patterson, even though that woudl leave 3 lefties in a Row
I wouldn't be surprised to see Patterson, Walker, and Garciaparra as the top 3 in 2005. But i'm not a Cubs fan, so I might be way off.
ESPN has team lineup pages from 2000 - 2004. You might want to use the 2004 lineups as a guide to getting started. The Cubs lineup page is here (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/lineup?team=chc), and you can switch teams using the "change team" drop down list in the upper right corner of the page.
Since the As and the Giants were the two teams that were in the playoff hunt until the last game, that would make sense. They other option would be to follow the RBI model of AS teams based on players from teams not represented.
A couple of tools for finding a line-up that reflects the bulk of the 2004 season (as a guideline):
Baseball Reference will give you the starting line-ups for each team, so you can see who played the most games at each position. For example, here is the NY Yankees' starting nine, including the DH. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/pos.shtml)
You can take that list and cross-reference it with the situational stats from each starting player from Yahoo Sports. For example,looking at Alex Rodriguez's stats, you can see that he had the majority of his ABs while batting third. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlbpa/players/5275/situational) You should be able to work out a starting line-up and batting order doing that.
Or, you could just take the starting line-up each team had in their first playoff game (or in the case of the Giants/As, in their last regular season game that mattered.)
Based on what I know about this season so far, here would be the Giants' batting order for this season:
1. Ray Durham (2B)
2. Omar Visquel (SS)
3. Marques Grissom (CF)
4. Barry Bonds (LF)
5. Moises Alou (RF)
6. Edgardo Alfonso (3B)
7. J.T. Snow (1B)
8. Mike Matheny (C)
Bench - Pedro Feliz
Bench - Michael Tucker
Bench - Deivi Cruz
Bench - Yorvit Torrealba
SP - Jason Schmidt
SP - Kirk Rueter
RP - Jim Brewer
RP - Armando Benitez
Here's my guess at the Cubs' line up:
Hairston Jr LF
Walker 2b
Nomar SS
A Ram 3b
Burnitz RF
Lee 1b
C Patt CF
Barrett C
This lineup is working well for me in mvp 2005 :D
I don't know if you guys remember, but the Cubs didn't make the playoffs last year.
Quote from: BeeJay on 02/25/05, 01:19:24 PM
I don't know if you guys remember, but the Cubs didn't make the playoffs last year.
But they are a fairly popular team.
There's 2 non-playoff openings on the ROM too.
Cardinals would probably be:
1. David Eckstein (SS)
2. Larry Walker (RF)
3. Albert Pujols (1B)
4. Scott Rolen (3B)
5. Jim Edmonds (CF)
6. Reggie Sanders (RF)
7. Mark Grudzielanek (2B)
8. Yadier Molina (C)
Bench - John Mabry
Bench - Roger Cedeno
Bench - Hector Luna
Bench - So Taguchi
P - Mark Mulder
P - Chris Carpenter
P - Ray King
P - Jason Isringhausen
As much as I dislike the Yankees, It would be cool to have Randy Johnson in RBI.
2B. Tony Womack
SS. Derek Jeter
3B. Alex Rodriguez
RF. Gary Sheffield
LF. Hideki Matsui
1B. Jason Giambi
C. Jorge Posada
CF. Bernie Williams
PH. Tino Martinez
PH. Ruben Sierra
PH. Bubba Crosby
PH. Rey Sanchez
SP. Randy Johnson
SP. Mike Mussina
RP. Tom Gordon (or Mike Stanton to add another lefty to the mix)
RP. Mariano Rivera
Your Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim:
1. Chone Figgins (2B)
2. Darin Erstad (1B)
3. Vladamir Guerrero (RF)
4. Garrett Anderson (LF)
5. Steve Finley (CF)
6. Orlando Cabrera (SS)
7. Dallas McPherson (3B)
8. Bengie Molina (C)
(Note: Adam Kennedy probably isn't coming back untl mid-season from his knee injury, so I'm not including him here.)
Bench: Rob Quinlan
Bench: Jeff DaVanon
Bench: Lou Merloni
Bench: Juan Rivera
SP: Bartolo Colon
SP: Kelvim Escobar
RP: Brendan Donnelly
RP: Francisco Rodriguez
Los Angeles Dodgers:
1. Izturis (SS)
2. Werth (LF)
3. Drew (CF)
4. Kent (2B)
5. Bradley (RF)
6. Valentin (3B)
7. Choi (1B)
8. Ross (C)
Bench: Ladee
Bench: Grabowski
Bench: Bako
Bench: Perez
SP: Weaver
SP: Lowe
RP: Brazoban
RP: Gagne
I like the idea of 2 all star teams, the best of the rest like they did in the original. You could maybe even handicap them so that they're only slightly better than the other teams. In the wild card era, I just don't think that the teams that don't make the playoffs are very good at all. Both the Cubs and the Giants made late pushes last year, but neither had a good team. I also think it's good to give Cubs fans one more thing to complain about.
You grossly underestimate the typical Cub fan's tolerance for pain / complaining.
I just filled in player stats for the Giants, and I don't care for all-star teams, so I think I'll keep two non-playoff teams for now. I like the Cubbies, but I don't think they're going to make the cut. Sorry.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/25/05, 11:00:00 AM
Cubs (potential if you decide to included)
Walker
Garciaparra
Patterson
Ramirez
Burnitz
Lee
Hollandsworth
Barrett
Are you saying this is what you think the line up will be? I really doubt Garciaparra will hit 2nd and Hairston won't lead off...
Plus, Lee should hit 5...not saying he will, but he should...
lee will hit 2nd or 6th.
Remember, the Cubs have Dunsty Baker.
When Burnitz is hitting .210 with 3 hrs and 4 RBI's (in late june), dunsty will probably have him hitting 3rd or 4th.
Dusty is okay at managing line ups...his biggest weakness, IMO, is his inabilitity (yes, I said inabiltity) to pull a SP at the right time...he seems to wait until it's too late far too often...
Quote from: JoeDirt on 02/25/05, 06:55:38 PM
Dusty is okay at managing line ups...his biggest weakness, IMO, is his inabilitity (yes, I said inabiltity) to pull a SP at the right time...he seems to wait until it's too late far too often...
Dusty hit Lenny Harris lead off in 2003. That's inexcusable.
He left Sosa in the 3 hole for the better part of last year.
He refused to take advantage of a hot DLee in June and July of last year, insisting that he hit 6th or 7th, but NEVER 3-5
While Grudz couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag, but Todd Walker was busy leading all NL 2b in OPS and homers (in limited action) during the first half, Dusty thought it would be a good idea to bench Walker in favor of Pudz.
Dusty is the biggest fuck up in the majors right now.
I think DUsty is decent at managing lineups and I don't think he is terrible at managing his pitchers, he does seem to leave guys in too long, but they've really had no serious injuries since he's been there (knock on wood). I think his real weaknesses are his propensity to have his hitter swing away in lieu of being patient, and his refusal to use young players (especially those that like to be patient like Choi and Bellhorn)
I just went through the Braves' lineup - their bench (other than the esteemed Mr. Franco) has just about no MLB experience. I am seriously tempted to put Mike Hampton as one of their pinch-hitters (Hudson and Smoltz have the SP slots) - his .172 with 2 HR is actually better than the guy filling the last slot on their bench right now.
Braves Lineup:
Furcal
MGiles
CJones
AJones
LaRoch
Estrda
Mndesi
Jordan
Franco
NGreen
EPerez
Betmit (Wilson Betemit, the .170/0 guy; he had the most MLB experience of the other backups listed on the Braves' depth chart (http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=atl))
Hudson
Smoltz
Ritsma
Kolb
Just because I haven't posted it yet, here's the Twins:
Stewrt
JJones
Mauer
Mrneau
Hunter
Cuddyr
Rivas
Punto
Ford
LeCroy
Castro
Ojeda
Santana
Radke
Rincon
Nathan
I think you should put the teams together the best you can and then adjust them at the start of the season. And then adjust and change to teams that make the playoffs at the end of the season with end of the season stats. I know of the Yankees suggestion that Bubba may not even make the team.
You can start with my ROM that has all end of year stats with a few minor mistakes. I think Womack's stats may need to be fixed. And Bonds bats from the wrong side on the all star team.
2004 End of Season Stats Zip File (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;id=558)
Quote from: Scroope on 02/26/05, 09:32:44 AM
I think you should put the teams together the best you can and then adjust them at the start of the season. And then adjust and change to teams that make the playoffs at the end of the season with end of the season stats. I know of the Yankees suggestion that Bubba may not even make the team.
You can start with my ROM that has all end of year stats with a few minor mistakes. I think Womack's stats may need to be fixed. And Bonds bats from the wrong side on the all star team.
2004 End of Season Stats Zip File (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;id=558)
I don't know that I have the ambition to keep modifying this all season... I was just planning on putting this together to get us back in the mood for baseball now that it's Spring Training time again.
Put it together the best you can and someone will surely make the adjustments.
Here's the first draft of the ROM.
Notes:
I didn't know if any of the pitchers were sidearm, so I left them all overhand.
Pitchers' batting statistics are correct for last season. The only rating modification from the default pitcher batting skills was a boost to Jason Schmidt's power rating, since he had 2 homeruns last year.
Pitcher ratings are fairly arbitrary, because that's something I'm not really knowledgable about.
Hitting ratings are mostly based on last year's stats (2003's, in the case of Mark Ellis), although I took some liberties based on ABs and what I know of the players.
Let me know if you have any suggestions. I'm sure I'll make some tweaks along the way as well.
I just played NY v. Boston. Randy Johnson hit for the cycle. (In the park HR). Good ROM. How did you get all of the stats onto the text document? Do you have some kind of easy way to insert stats besides for individually typing each players stats? You should post a link to the text to the forum page about the new Family Stadium ROM.
Quote from: Scroope on 02/27/05, 08:48:19 AM
How did you get all of the stats onto the text document? Do you have some kind of easy way to insert stats besides for individually typing each players stats?
Nightwulf's RBI Editor automatically sets up the text file. To do it for your own ROMs, on the Download/Export page under Export, click Export to: Player Stats. That will create a .txt file just like the one I posted. For some reason, I couldn't get Firefox to save the document directly, so I just selected the whole screen and pasted it into Notepad.
Quote from: Nails on 02/25/05, 03:14:45 PM
As much as I dislike the Yankees, It would be cool to have Randy Johnson in RBI.
2B. Tony Womack
SS. Derek Jeter
3B. Alex Rodriguez
RF. Gary Sheffield
LF. Hideki Matsui
1B. Jason Giambi
C. Jorge Posada
CF. Bernie Williams
Don't you mean:
2B. Tony Womack
SS. Derek Jeter
3B. Alex Rodriguez
RF. Gary Sheffield
LF. Hideki Matsui
1B. Jason Giambi*
C. Jorge Posada
CF. Bernie Williams
By the way, I have to say I had a hell of a time playing this ROM. I almost laughed my ass off when I picked Houston, and there was Clemns, the #1 starter. Same for when I hit a home run with Julio Franco, 18 years after the fact.
The one shame-on-you thing I'd say is that John Franco isn't in the game, even though he's still on the Astros' depth chart. You have to give a little love to an original RBIer if he's on one of the teams in the ROM. The only glitch I've found so far is when I'm playing LA, if I pinch-hit three batters in a row with one strike and a guy on base (all one after the other, without a pitch being thrown), it resets the game sometimes. Pretty minor, though.
Oh yeah, one other thing: Comparing the stats between this and the original, can you honestly say half the guys AREN'T on steroids now? When every team looks like the AL All-Stars, and the sixth guy on a shitty team has 30 homers, it does kind of jump out at you.
Makes you wonder if Cansco was really making everything up after all...
I thought about John Franco at one point, then forgot about him when I actually put together the ROM. I may correct that in version 2.
The glitch must be something in the original RBI code... I didn't make any changes other than rosters and team names/colors.
The Yankees are the best example of your steroid comment, I think - 7 of the 8 starters have 20+ homers. Not much room to pitch around people.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/28/05, 08:26:07 AM
The Yankees are the best example of your steroid comment, I think - 7 of the 8 starters have 20+ homers. Not much room to pitch around people.
Steriods, and a very large wallet.
Quote from: capt_taco on 02/28/05, 06:48:42 AM
Don't you mean:
2B. Tony Womack
SS. Derek Jeter
3B. Alex Rodriguez
RF. Gary Sheffield
LF. Hideki Matsui
1B. Jason Giambi*
C. Jorge Posada
CF. Bernie Williams
Actually, that would be:
2B. Tony Womack
SS. Derek Jeter
3B. Alex Rodriguez
RF. Gary Sheffield
*LF. Hideki Matsui
1B. Jason Giambi
*C. Jorge Posada
CF. Bernie Williams
Quote from: capt_taco on 02/28/05, 08:06:14 AM
The only glitch I've found so far is when I'm playing LA, if I pinch-hit three batters in a row with one strike and a guy on base (all one after the other, without a pitch being thrown), it resets the game sometimes. Pretty minor, though.
Are you sure this wasn't a coincidence, I'm still trying to understand exactly why you did this, you waited for 1 strike for all 3 guys?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/28/05, 12:12:31 PM
Quote from: capt_taco on 02/28/05, 08:06:14 AM
The only glitch I've found so far is when I'm playing LA, if I pinch-hit three batters in a row with one strike and a guy on base (all one after the other, without a pitch being thrown), it resets the game sometimes. Pretty minor, though.
Are you sure this wasn't a coincidence, I'm still trying to understand exactly why you did this, you waited for 1 strike for all 3 guys?
What happened was, I had batted through to the #8 hitter my first time up, and I hadn't checked out any of the pinch hitters yet. So I subbed them in, one after another, just to see their stats. (The computer didn't even get to throw a pitch during this time. And the #8 guy had fouled off the first pitch and led me to believe he was a little bitch, which was why I decided to do the subs right then.) When I put the third guy in, the game reset for some reason.
I tried to duplicate it a couple of times with some other teams, and it didn't work. It did work one more time when I tried it with L.A.
Anyway, this is a pretty minor glitch, since I don't know why you'd ever make substitutions like that unless it was your first time playing with that team...
A couple small corrections:
For Oakland, Rincon is a left-handed pitcher, not a righty. Also, I don't think Kielty is on the A's anymore. I don't know who you'd replace him with that has actual MLB stats, though. Didn't like Eric Chavez's power too much, but that's OK, because in this version, Eric... Byrnes... is... God. And we all know that's the truth.
On the steroids front, I also started noticing that there are no more teams that can beat you with speed. St. Louis, New York and Houston sucked in the original, but from a real-baseball perspective, power has taken a lot of "team" concepts from the '80s out of the game. Instead of Vince Coleman and Lenny Dykstra giving you fits on the basepaths, you have Mark Bellhorn smacking the ball off the screen.
Did anyone notice that Bellhorn has more power at second base than Ryno did in the original version? Something about that just isn't right.
Bumpst, because I'd like to update this for the end of Spring Training and post a final version for Gantry to release into the wild through the ROMs page.
I made the change to Ricardo Rincon as capt_taco requested (Kielty is still on the A's, according to the roster on their official website), and I also replaced Nick Punto with Jason Bartlett on the Twins, since Bartlett has captured the starting SS job and Punto may not make the roster (I adjusted his contact and speed both upward slightly, but his power is equivalent to Punto's). I also saw that Dallas McPherson didn't make the Angels' Major League roster - does anyone know who will start for them at third base now? Their official depth chart wasn't updated, and I only learned about McPherson's demotion in a passing mention with no details (like who the new starter was).
Any other suggested tweaks or roster changes would be appreciated. I believe the first version's rosters were posted in a text file earlier in this thread.
I took issue with the Cubs roster. . . . :(
Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/31/05, 02:49:10 PM
Bumpst, because I'd like to update this for the end of Spring Training and post a final version for Gantry to release into the wild through the ROMs page.
I made the change to Ricardo Rincon as capt_taco requested (Kielty is still on the A's, according to the roster on their official website), and I also replaced Nick Punto with Jason Bartlett on the Twins, since Bartlett has captured the starting SS job and Punto may not make the roster (I adjusted his contact and speed both upward slightly, but his power is equivalent to Punto's). I also saw that Dallas McPherson didn't make the Angels' Major League roster - does anyone know who will start for them at third base now? Their official depth chart wasn't updated, and I only learned about McPherson's demotion in a passing mention with no details (like who the new starter was).
Any other suggested tweaks or roster changes would be appreciated. I believe the first version's rosters were posted in a text file earlier in this thread.
Rob Quinlan is going to start at third while McPherson rehabs from his back injury. They expect him to be back by mid-April, meaning he might only miss the first few weeks of the season.
I like Quinlan. He's a hard working guy -- a class act, too.
Both Quinlan and DaVanon deserve a shot to play every day in the field. As long as McPherson heals up, I would expect one or both of them to be dealt for pitching near the trade deadline if the Angels need to make a move.
I know I should just do it myself, but it would be nice to have all the 2005 teams, maybe each division could be done? Or we could arrange them by payroll? Anyways, here's a possible Brewers lineup (if anyone cares). There's reason to think we could win 81 games or more here for the first time since '92.
Brady Clark
Junior Spivey
Lyle Overbay
Carlos Lee
Geoff Jenkins
Russell Branyon
Damien Miller
JJ Hardy
Wes Helms
Bill Hall
Jeff Cirillo
Chad Moeller
Ben Sheets
Doug Davis
Ricky Botallico
Mike Adams
Here's what I'm going to deem the final version, at least for this spring... maybe if I get ambitious there will be a midseason version, but I refuse to make any promises.
Gantry, you're welcome to post this on the ROMs page.
HEY WHAT TEAMS ARE ON THIS RBI 2K5 ROM???
JUST WONDERING
ALSO, WE NEED THE BALTIMORE ORIOLES WITH SAMMY SOSA!!!!!
SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE THE AL EAST!!!!!!!
YEHHH HAWWWWWWW
Owen:
Click on the attached text file to see all the teams...
edit - removed discussion about caps, owen handled it
a very bad ass rom in deed... ok... i have the hang of things here now
thanks for all the help... im gonna get playin!
Quote from: Gantry on 05/13/05, 09:12:47 PM
edit - removed discussion about caps, owen handled it
AH MAN, GANTRY--YOU SUCK! I JUST WANTED TO HEAR THE CAPS/HORSE THEORY AGAIN BECAUSE IT WAS BOTH FUNNY AND CLEVER!
whats the horse theory? i didnt get it?
Quote from: PHole717 on 05/10/05, 10:23:10 PM
Capitalization is the difference between "I helped Jack off a horse" and "I helped jack off a horse."
amen
The 2005 ROM has been added, thanks to beef for making it and owen for pointing it out...
just downloaded this rom, nice work Beef,
I still gotta get used to the keyboard, first game I lost a tough one to the Dodgers 14-8, I was the other LA team. The cpu actually let Lowe go the complete game, I not sure I have ever seen this.
On a bright note for the Angels, Chone Figgins was a HR shy of hitting for the cycle.
dropped a tough one to the 'Stros 9-6, this might keep me in all night
Big first win against the Yanks 8-3, Colon makes up for an awful first start with a 7 inning 6 hit, 2 earned run performance. He got the no-decision, left him in one pitch to long, and he let up a solo shot to Martinez while up 3-2, left him in the game to retire Bernie and end the 7th.
handilly took out the BoSox 11-3, Escobar had a complete game
Quoteleft him in one pitch to long,
Story of my RBI life, no matter what version or style of play. Nothing worse than stupidly trying to get one more batter out and paying for it...
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/12/05, 04:57:12 PM
Here's what I'm going to deem the final version, at least for this spring... maybe if I get ambitious there will be a midseason version, but I refuse to make any promises.
Gantry, you're welcome to post this on the ROMs page.
Hate to be a jerk, but your Boston lineup is wrong. In situations where pitchers have to hit, Mueller is on the bench, so it would be
Damon
Milar
Ramirez
Ortiz
Varitek
Nixon
etc...
also not to be a jerk, but I believe that Mueller would be in the lineup and Millar would be on the bench, Ortiz taking Millar's spot at first.
Quote from: malnuboy on 05/15/05, 05:32:04 AM
also not to be a jerk, but I believe that Mueller would be in the lineup and Millar would be on the bench, Ortiz taking Millar's spot at first.
Ortiz can field to save his fat ass. But, in RBI that makes no difference.
Quote from: malnuboy on 05/15/05, 05:32:04 AM
also not to be a jerk, but I believe that Mueller would be in the lineup and Millar would be on the bench, Ortiz taking Millar's spot at first.
Hah, you're right, thats what I get for trying to remember stuff at 3 in the morning :)
In RBI, the DH takes the first spot on the bench. I am merely staying true to the original game.
It does make the computer pretty weak when they use Boston, though, since Papi only will probably get one AB.
I'm glad to see that people are playing and enjoying the ROM.
do the cubs suck ass on this ROM?
Quote from: Ryno on 05/15/05, 10:12:48 AM
do the cubs suck ass on this ROM?
No, because they do not exist (I took the playoff teams from last year and the two teams with the next-best records).
On that note, I'm thinking of trying to update the ROM with some different teams. I'd keep the Twins for sure, and probably the Angels, Red Sox, Cards, and Dodgers, since they're all popular and doing well, but I'd like to add the Cubs (since they're popular), the White Sox (so I can beat up on them with the Twins), and maybe another couple of teams (like the Orioles, to appease owencetnar). Any suggestions for what teams to have for an updated version? I'd probably also do a few ratings and lineup tweaks to existing teams, while I'm at it, although I'd still use last year's stats for the players.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/15/05, 03:12:02 PM
Any suggestions for what teams to have for an updated version?
I think a cool thing to do would be to use the teams that would make the playoffs if they started today. This would be especially nice since the White Sox and Orioles would be included.
if you wanted to update the angels you could make these changes if you wanted:
1 Erstad 1B
2 Figgns 2B/3B/CF/DH usually in the lineup somewhere everyday.
3 Geurro RF
4 Andrsn LF
5 Finley CF/DH barely hitting .200
6 McPhsn 3B barely hitting .200
7 Cabrra SS
8 BMolna C
B1 Kenedy 2B
B2 DaVnon OF/DH
B3 Quinln 3B
B4 Jo. Mo C
P1 Colon
P2 Washbn (L)
P3 Shields
P4 K. Rod
there's some ideas for possible changes. it turned out that mcpherson and kennedy only missed about a month of the beginning of the season, most people expected they would miss more. you could put kennedy at second instead of figgins, but the angels are always so high on his speed and everything that maybe he should be in the line-up. washburn may deserve the nod over escobar because escobar has been battling injuries and has been on the DL twice already, and wash is a lefty. shields needs some love as he's regarded much like figgins being one of the most important guys on the team.
Id have to admit, playing with the Mets would be pretty badass too as well as the orioles [my fav team].... pedro, beltran... either way, this 2005 rom is getting me through reguardless
keep up the good work
QuoteIn RBI, the DH takes the first spot on the bench. I am merely staying true to the original game.
Never knew this... You learn something new everyday in the land of RBI
Quote from: Gantry on 05/16/05, 08:55:03 AM
QuoteIn RBI, the DH takes the first spot on the bench. I am merely staying true to the original game.
Never knew this... You learn something new everyday in the land of RBI
I'm not sure this is entirely true.... Reggie was primarily the DH for the Angels in '86. Don Baylor was the primary DH for the Sox in '86... Pat Sheridan wasn't a DH for Detroit in '87, but Roy Smally was for Minnesota.
They likely didn't want to keep their bench bats on the bench, so maybe they put Jackson/Baylor in and took out the worst OF (though Armas was no slouch that year)?
After I posted that, I looked into it some more, and I don't think that I was right, either. The '87 Twins were the team I knew the best, and I knew that their starting lineup was positionally accurate (they had all their position players start and not the DH, although that may be because their DHs sucked that year until they traded for Baylor).
It would probably make more sense for me to switch it around, at least for the Red Sox. I'm not sure about other teams... I want to maintain a real starting lineup without guys playing out of position, so I wouldn't change it around too much.
So lets break it down and I'll make a database page:
DH for Cali was Jackson, Hendrick moved from starting OF to bench
DH for Bo was Baylor, Armas moved from starting OF to bench
DH for Mn was Smalley
DH for Dt was Madlock
This right?
Quote from: Gantry on 05/16/05, 11:13:20 AM
So lets break it down and I'll make a database page:
DH for Cali was Jackson, Hendrick moved from starting OF to bench
DH for Bo was Baylor, Armas moved from starting OF to bench
DH for Mn was Smalley
DH for Dt was Madlock
This right?
According to baseball-reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CAL/1986.shtml), it looks like Rupperto got the majority of playing time in the OF over Hendrick. Perhaps they were rotating outfielders that year. TeddyBallgame might know best (I think he's an Angels fan).
Quote from: Gantry on 05/16/05, 11:02:20 AM
They likely didn't want to keep their bench bats on the bench, so maybe they put Jackson/Baylor in and took out the worst OF (though Armas was no slouch that year)?
Armas only had 11 HRs in '86. His 43 homers were in '84.
Was Armas the full-time starter then, even though he only got 11 dingers that year? Or did they do a platoon? Kind of remember reading about a platoon, maybe he and henderson late in the eyar after they traded for him?
Yeah, i'm pretty sure Armas was the full-time starter until the end of the year when he was having knee problems (or something like that), and Henderson started filling in.
Outfield G PO A E DP .980 2.06 LF CF RF
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GPettis 153 462 9 7 3 .985 3.08 0 153 0
BDowning 138 267 5 3 0 .989 1.97 138 0 0
RJones 121 205 5 4 0 .981 1.74 28 10 96
GHendrick 93 144 6 5 2 .968 1.61 0 2 92
looks like rupperto was the top RF in games played. Hendrick would also sub for Joyner at 1B. Potatoes was certainly the DH most of the time.
now if you had to put Reggie in a position (because of RBI's national league style game), you'd put him in RF.
This RBI 2K5 is easily the rom I've played the most, I still play about one game a day, I played the Mexican Rom alot to, but not as much as this one.