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I know this has been debated before, but i'm curious what the general public thinks.  Not to mention this place has been a little dead lately, and we need to spark more RBI discussion.  I personally have never seen one, and i'm skeptical, but think it's remotely possible.

Who's seen one?  Who's a disbeliever?

I'm still occasionally watching games with the pitcher's ROM (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=5712.msg88728#msg88728).  Nothing has even come close yet...  I'm thinking if it's even possible, I might be 50 by the time I see one.

This is possibly the most hotly debated topic of RBI.  We've had numerous discussions in the past.

I for one have never seen a pitcher homer.  I've seen some balls get close but never an actual homer.

It can happen.  That is my belief.  A couple of dee nee brethren (Dove is one) have claimed to hit pitcher homeruns and I believe them.  Why make it up?  Seems pretty asinine.

I've come close enough to where I think it can happen under the right circumstances.

If I hit a pitcher homerun in the COTUT, I'll stop playing right then and there...forever.

Good topic, good job promoting the RBI board.  I haven't played in a while since I destroyed my controller last month in a drunken rage.  Gotta get another.

While watching the Pitcher Homerun ROM, I saw a fly ball that would have probably been a wallzie had it not been foul.  It was absolutely crushed.  I believe it was in the 4th inning when the pitcher was tired.

I have done it with Rick Sutcliffe.   Summer of '89. 

Took it right down the line, clearing the wall by nano inches.

The board is deifnitely dead...

I am in the same board as mclane - it can happen via wallzie but I've never seen it.  Not sure if I ever will see it, but the quality of people who confirmed it on this board makes me a believer...

I'm still waiting for my Rafael Santana dinger...

Quote from: fknmclane on 03/22/05, 12:19:24 AM
Why make it up? Seems pretty asinine.

Exactly what I was thinking.  I don't doubt anyone's word, I just want to see one for myself.  I thought I did it once, but i'd been drinking a lot of beer, and didn't realize for a minute that it was actually Vince Coleman.

Quote from: fknmclane on 03/22/05, 12:19:24 AM
I haven't played in a while since I destroyed my controller last month in a drunken rage. Gotta get another.

Better practice up, buddy.  JoeDirt's been a mean motherfucker in the straight pitch league.

I must break him.

Quote from: Gerlost on 03/22/05, 12:25:24 AM
While watching the Pitcher Homerun ROM, I saw a fly ball that would have probably been a wallzie had it not been foul. It was absolutely crushed. I believe it was in the 4th inning when the pitcher was tired.

Good call.  I forgot about one instance where somebody hit one foul, and I guessed it would've come very close to the bottom of the wall, had it been fair.  Good to hear somebody else is giving it a shot!

Quote from: fknmclane on 03/22/05, 12:30:03 AM
I must break him.

dah nah...would you believe I just saw the movie Joe Dirt in its entirety this weekend? 

Quote from: fknmclane on 03/22/05, 12:19:24 AM
It can happen. That is my belief. A couple of dee nee brethren (Dove is one) have claimed to hit pitcher homeruns and I believe them.

I believe Dove recanted on this, though, and acknowledged only that he thinks he recalls it happening...

Enough people have claimed to see Walzie's that I believe they can happen

Suggestion for Nail Pitchers ROM:

Don't know if you've done this but lower all the pithcers pitching abilities, all have 0 curve and lower anyone with a strong fast ball, this may make the HR more likely.

Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/22/05, 08:23:50 AM
Suggestion for Nail Pitchers ROM:

Don't know if you've done this but lower all the pithcers pitching abilities, all have 0 curve and lower anyone with a strong fast ball, this may make the HR more likely.

Thanks Ultimate.  I did go back after the 1st version of the ROM, and evened out all pitches so that they'd all be a moderate speed.  Good idea, about the curve.  I'll have to put that in. 

Quote from: Ryno on 03/22/05, 12:26:29 AM
I have done it with Rick Sutcliffe. Summer of '89.

Took it right down the line, clearing the wall by nano inches.

It's funny that the one guy who says he's done it, gets no response at all.  All that smack that JoeD says about you must be true, Ryno.

If Ryno says he's done it, I believe him.  But I still want to get one on video.

Quote from: JoeDirt on 03/22/05, 06:59:35 AM

Quote from: fknmclane on 03/22/05, 12:19:24 AM
It can happen. That is my belief. A couple of dee nee brethren (Dove is one) have claimed to hit pitcher homeruns and I believe them.

I believe Dove recanted on this, though, and acknowledged only that he thinks he recalls it happening...

You know, you're right.  I seem to recall and Old Blacksmith of sorts clouding his judgement. 

Either way, I think it's possible.  And I'm gonna throw out that I think it can go over the fence, not just a wallzie.

no...this cannot happen...unless it's Jimmy key, and he is the computer....short of that...A pitcher can not hit a homer...and I refuse to believe otherwise

Quote from: Ryno on 03/22/05, 12:26:29 AM
I have done it with Rick Sutcliffe. Summer of '89.

Took it right down the line, clearing the wall by nano inches.

So it wasn't a walzie?  I think your memory is fuzzy.

Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/22/05, 10:33:44 AM

Quote from: Ryno on 03/22/05, 12:26:29 AM
I have done it with Rick Sutcliffe. Summer of '89.

Took it right down the line, clearing the wall by nano inches.

So it wasn't a walzie?  I think your memory is fuzzy.

Not a wallzie.  It was a normal flyball that barely cleared the wall down the line.

Are pitchers capable of hitting homeruns?

No.

I do not believe you will ever see one playing the original cartridges on NES or on an original ROM.

I've said it before, but once again: You can definitely hit a wallzie with a pitcher. I've done it twice -- once with Saberhagen in '88 or '89 when I was a little kid, and once with Krukow last summer.

I also had the computer hit one off me as a little kid; I think it was Sutcliffe. I was pissed.

So, it can definitely happen, but I've only ever seen it be a wallzie; no clearing the fence. I've also never seen a left-handed pitcher come anywhere close.

I've played thousands of games of RBI and the best I've ever seen is a long fly ball from Nolan Ryan.  I am very sceptical of the Pircher HR.  I vote No.

QuoteNot a wallzie.  It was a normal flyball that barely cleared the wall down the line.

You sure about this Ryno?  If so, you are the first person on record saying they hit a non-wallzie pitcher homer...

Quote from: Gantry on 03/23/05, 11:47:40 AM

QuoteNot a wallzie.  It was a normal flyball that barely cleared the wall down the line.

You sure about this Ryno?  If so, you are the first person on record saying they hit a non-wallzie pitcher homer...

As sure as I can be. .. . . .it happened a long long long time ago. . . .88 or 89.

I know for sure it was a homer.

I'm more than 50 percent sure that it wasn't a wallzie.


Hopefully I've not committed perjury.


I'm tired.

You people wanted me to jump off a bridge and I did.

Now my kids won't cry.


;)

It was a wallzie

Ryno was clearly on meth when he supposedly hit this homerun, so I believe it deserves an asterisk in the record books.  I've called Hjose Canseco and he's going to write a book about it, and Congress is convening on whether or not to pull the plug on Ryno.

Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/23/05, 12:29:55 PM
It was a wallzie

I'm 28.. . .not 18. .. . or 8. . . .. .. I'm tired. .     .I may have to sit out this season.

Babe Ruth is white.

Rick Sutcliffe hit a homer.

Quote from: BeeJay on 03/23/05, 12:34:00 PM
Ryno was clearly on meth when he supposedly hit this homerun, so I believe it deserves an asterisk in the record books.  I've called Hjose Canseco and he's going to write a book about it, and Congress is convening on whether or not to pull the plug on Ryno.

I let hJose inject me. . .. . . . .it was dreamy.

It wasn't hjose who injected you...it was me, wearing a hjose canseco punch out mask (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=1661.msg97211#msg97211).

To quote Archibald Cunningham from "Rob Roy": "Think of yourself a scabbard, Mistress Ryno, and I the sword. And a fine fit you were, too. "

Quote from: fightonusc on 03/23/05, 12:40:09 PM
It wasn't hjose who injected you...it was me, wearing a hjose canseco punch out mask (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=1661.msg97211#msg97211).

To quote Archibald Cunningham from "Rob Roy": "Think of yourself a scabbard, Mistress Ryno, and I the sword. And a fine fit you were, too. "

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Just because it has never happened, doesn't mean it never will.
There's gotta be a way to determine it, though.
If it's completely impossible, maybe it's programmed into the game. Or a players power number determines the total distance of HR's.

Someone smarter than me: get to work

It can definitely be done.  I did it with Alexander while I was in college.  I was playing Gabe Doyle (son of the current WI governor).
We went absolutely crazy, and went to several dorm rooms and made them shotgun beers (Beast Ice--yuck) with us.
It was a great day in RBI history.
Yes, it was a wall-zie, and the ball hit probably 1 inch up on the base of the wall and looked like it should have been foul.

I would have said that cleering the wall with a pitcher would be impossible, however if Ryno says he did it, I believe it.  I was the biggest disbeliever of hitting any type of homer with a pitcher till I did it myself.

We now have two Dee-Nee members willing to state on record that they've seen/hit a HR (wallzie or otherwise) with a pitcher. That's pretty compelling. Although, these are just online people, so they problem are liars, drug addicts and/or serial killers.

:-\

Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/05, 02:05:51 PM
We now have two Dee-Nee members willing to state on record that they've seen/hit a HR (wallzie or otherwise) with a pitcher. That's pretty compelling. Although, these are just online people, so they problem are lairs, drug addicts and/or serial killers.

:-\

You are 2/3 correct.  I will leave it at that.

Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/05, 02:05:51 PM
We now have two Dee-Nee members willing to state on record that they've seen/hit a HR (wallzie or otherwise) with a pitcher. That's pretty compelling. Although, these are just online people, so they problem are liars, drug addicts and/or serial killers.

:-\

After I finish snorting this line of coke, I'm going to kill you.

And that's the truth.

Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/05, 02:05:51 PM
We now have two Dee-Nee members willing to state on record that they've seen/hit a HR (wallzie or otherwise) with a pitcher. That's pretty compelling. Although, these are just online people, so they problem are liars, drug addicts and/or serial killers.

:-\

I think if you go through old posts, you'll find more than 2.

Well, I know a couple of people heard second-hand accounts, or thought that they remembered it, but conceded that they're memories could be wrong.

Quote from: BDawk on 03/24/05, 12:37:24 PM
Just because it has never happened, doesn't mean it never will.
There's gotta be a way to determine it, though.
If it's completely impossible, maybe it's programmed into the game. Or a players power number determines the total distance of HR's.

It's possible to look into. No idea when I'll have time, so if anyone else wants to try, here's where I'd start ...

Set an execution breakpoint at 0xEE67. This is the random number generator. See when it's called during batting. Write a small patch to skew this, and change those JSRs to the start of the patch, instead of 0xEE67. Something like ...

A9 FF     LDA #$FF
60        RTS

would work.

Nightwulf

What say you Fighton, that Ryno could not tell arse from quim?

Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/24/05, 02:53:30 PM
I think if you go through old posts, you'll find more than 2.

So far I count 3 if you include me, even though I've not been around much for a month or so.

The wallzie definitely happens. I've even had the bleeping COMPUTER hit one against me. Why would you lie about that? That's like admitting you got your dick sucked by your fat, retarded 15-year-old cousin after a ska concert.

Wait, maybe I've said too much... scratch that last part.

Quote from: capt_taco on 03/25/05, 06:30:09 AM
I've even had the bleeping COMPUTER hit one against me. Why would you lie about that? That's like admitting you got your dick sucked by your fat, retarded 15-year-old cousin after a ska concert.

Wait, maybe I've said too much... scratch that last part.

If I were you, I would "scratch" the part about the computer hitting a bomb off of you with their pitcher....that is much, much worse!

doveRBI also says he's seen a pitcher HR, although he was a tad drunk when he first posted it.  If we can't believe him, I fear we have nothing left to believe.

Odd observation - most of the claimed pitcher HRs came with all-star pitchers.  It's probably a coincidence, like the fact that the only kickers I've seen miss extra points (not blocked, missed) in Tecmo Super Bowl are the two Pro Bowl kickers.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/28/05, 07:50:04 AM
doveRBI also says he's seen a pitcher HR, although he was a tad drunk when he first posted it. If we can't believe him, I fear we have nothing left to believe.

Beef, although Dove hasn't spoken up on this thread, JoeDirt posted that he believes Dove recanted the claim and he's just not sure.

http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=6095.msg97150#msg97150

Darn it, that's what I get for skimming.

While I've never seen a pitcher HR, I still believe a wallzie is possible, especially after seeing Jimmy Key hit one off the bottom of the wall in the Fantasy league.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/28/05, 07:56:36 AM
While I've never seen a pitcher HR, I still believe a wallzie is possible, especially after seeing Jimmy Key hit one off the bottom of the wall in the Fantasy league.

Other than the word of fellow members, that Jimmy Key shot has been keeping my faith going as well.

The reason Sut hit the homer for me is probably because I played 90 percent of my games with the NL Stars.  I'm a Cub freak and they had Sut, Sandberg, Dawson. . . . that was enough for me!

Quote from: Ryno on 03/28/05, 08:23:39 AM
The reason Sut hit the homer for me is probably because I played 90 percent of my games with the NL Stars.  I'm a Cub freak and they had Sut, Sandberg, Dawson. . . . that was enough for me!

This is probably the same reason I hit my home run w/ Alexander.  I play almost all of my games with Dt, Bo, or Ca.  I very rarely play with allstars.

Quote from: stockw19 on 03/28/05, 08:57:54 AM

Quote from: Ryno on 03/28/05, 08:23:39 AM
The reason Sut hit the homer for me is probably because I played 90 percent of my games with the NL Stars.  I'm a Cub freak and they had Sut, Sandberg, Dawson. . . . that was enough for me!

This is probably the same reason I hit my home run w/ Alexander.  I play almost all of my games with Dt, Bo, or Ca.  I very rarely play with allstars.

For whatever reason, I enjoyed waxing the computers ass 25-2 every game.

I've never seen the pitcher homerun, but I've hit fly balls deep enough with a pitcher to let me believe that somebody could have.

I think it's possible...I might make a new rule when I play that pitchers have to get slow pitches down the pipe to see if it can be done. Does that cheapen the accomplishment?

Quote from: Wilfong on 03/30/05, 10:26:11 AM
I think it's possible...I might make a new rule when I play that pitchers have to get slow pitches down the pipe to see if it can be done. Does that cheapen the accomplishment?

No--if it can be done, we must know.
And videotape it.

Quote from: Wilfong on 03/30/05, 10:26:11 AM
I think it's possible...I might make a new rule when I play that pitchers have to get slow pitches down the pipe to see if it can be done. Does that cheapen the accomplishment?

No, since I play this way to every batter.  I like high scoring games w/ tons of homers.

I've made it a habit to record every game just in case a pitcher gets one.  You can use the VirtualNES emulator (http://virtuanes.s1.xrea.com:8080/vnes_dl.php) to record games (thanks fightonusc for the recommendation).

speaking of legendary tales, has anyone ever hosed down a fatass righty from left field and/or chased one down from 3rd base?

Quote from: tronblast on 03/30/05, 06:46:48 PM
speaking of legendary tales, has anyone ever hosed down a fatass righty from left field and/or chased one down from 3rd base?

I have never done this, but I have come within a couple of steps on the "throw-out" from left.

Oh, pitchers most certainly can go yard.

I saw Doc Gooden do it, probably 10 years ago, at least.  Line shot down the third-base line (maybe even a bit foul), right into the wall, not more than a couple feet off the ground.  When the game called it a homer, my brother and I exploded.

Thanks for the confirmation Labyrinth!  The wallzie shot seems to be the only viable pitcher dinger out there...

17 years and thousands of games played\watched and I've never seen one.  Doc Gooden always seems to come close, but just not enough on it.  Not saying it's not possible, but chances seem to be slim to none.  Defenitely would have to be a wallzie.

Here's a link to fightonusc's video of Jimmy Key hitting one off the bottom of the wall.  Damn close to a wallzie.  One day we'll get an actual HR on video...

http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=5017.msg72505#msg72505

Just like Bigfoot and Wumpster, they are just myths.

What version of RBI is that in the video? 

Quote from: b_easy270 on 06/23/05, 12:36:50 PM
What version of RBI is that in the video?

It's a ROM (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/faq.shtml#CPU) created for the Dee-Nee fantasy RBI league (http://fantasyrbi.rbicentral.com/) using Nightwulf's RBI Editor (http://nightwulf.rbicentral.com/rbi-editor/).  Same players with the same abilities, but on drafted teams.  The uniform colors were changed for each team, so it looks a little weird.

Quote from: Teddyballgame on 03/22/05, 11:29:31 AM
Are pitchers capable of hitting homeruns?

No.

I do not believe you will ever see one playing the original cartridges on NES or on an original ROM.

Grrr!!! I've seen it!!!!!!!!! =D

I refuse to believe that it can happen, even a waltzy.

I've played 1,000s of games and the furthest I've hit a ball was a flyout, not deep at all.   If each pitcher has 0 home runs and has a .150 average, then I believe that they are all programmed with the exact same hitting skills and are only capable of bloop singles or doubles down the line.    There is no way in hell that a pitcher can hit a home run.   I am referring to the 8 bit game ONLY. 
If I ever see it happen I will strip naked and have sexual intercourse with my 8-bit system and then shotgun beers.

Quote from: DamnTheCowboys on 07/20/05, 03:24:54 PM
If each pitcher has 0 home runs and has a .150 average, then I believe that they are all programmed with the exact same hitting skills and are only capable of bloop singles or doubles down the line.

Welcome to the forums. All pitchers do have the same "displayed" stats (zero HR, .150 avg), but that has nothing to do with their actual stats used by the game. That said, it was confirmed some time ago that one set of batting data is used by all pitchers in the game. More information on this topic is available in the FAQ (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/faq.shtml#BESTHITPIT).

I've never seen a pitcher homerun myself, but I wouldn't rule it as impossible either.

Quote from: DamnTheCowboys on 07/20/05, 03:24:54 PM
If I ever see it happen I will strip naked and have sexual intercourse with my 8-bit system and then shotgun beers.

I think I speak for all of Dee-Nee when I say ...

pics?

Nightwulf

At this point anyone that didn't believe a Pitcher HR is possible would have to think that multiple respected forum members are lying.

Not fucking possible.

EDIT: Although, I have seen a bunch hit to the warning track, but none off the wall. Usually an all star, and Blyleven has hit a bomb for me...All have resulted in outs however.

Quote from: DamnTheCowboys on 07/20/05, 03:24:54 PM
If I ever see it happen I will strip naked and have sexual intercourse with my 8-bit system and then shotgun beers.

I strongly suggest you consider shotgunning the beers first.

Quote from: ultimate7 on 07/20/05, 03:55:21 PM
At this point anyone that didn't believe a Pitcher HR is possible would have to think that multiple respected forum members are lying.

Or just not remembering correctly...

It has been done.

That is all.