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Thinking about doing another rom, looking for suggestions.

An all-time best team would be very cool.

How about the shittiest teams or the slowest teams. Or teams like the early 90's Tigers that hit a ton of homeruns but had no average or pitching.

ps Rob Deer rules

World Series champs for each decade would be cool because you can fit all ten on there.  Though if you had multiple winners, you might want to do a runner up.  Like 76 Reds and 75 Red Sox...

Quote from: Gantry on 05/29/03, 08:35:53 AM
World Series champs for each decade would be cool because you can fit all ten on there.  Though if you had multiple winners, you might want to do a runner up.  Like 76 Reds and 75 Red Sox...

I think that's a great idea. A quick glance over the 90 ROM gives me 6 different teams:

90 Reds
91 Twins
92 or 93 Jays
95 Braves
97 Marlins
98 Yanks (instead of 96 or 99)

So I have 4 slots open. I figure four out of:
90 As
93 Phillies
94 Expos (strike season)
95 or 97 Indians
98 Padres

The two AL teams are interesting & will even out the AL/NL balance. So which one do I leave out? My first thought was the 94 Expos, but damn they were awesome. I could translate their HRs to 162 games to get a better idea of their power. I guess it's between these two teams:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1993.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SDP/1998.shtml

Any suggestions?

Looking at the teams now...  I'm leaning towards the 93 Phills, got some good all-time players, a couple RBIers and the sheer thrill of pitching with Mitch Williams at the end of the game.  Daulton would pretty much be Matt Nokes and Pete Incavigllia has RBI written all over him...

San Diego definitely has the better starting pitching though.  When all fails, I learn towards the older teams...

How about an All-Mustache team?

Lets try to field a real RBI mustache team:

Player/Manager - Tom Brookens

C  - Steve Lake
1B - Keith Hernandez
2B - Bob Grich
SS - Dickie Thon
3B - Mike Schmidt
OF - Kirk Gibson
OF - Dan Gladden
OF - Davey Lopes

Bench:

Steve Lake
Bill Buckner
Rob Wilfong
Don Mattingly

SP - Jack Morris
SP - Front Viola
RP - Donnie Moore
RP - John Franco

No Rollie Fingers?

I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet but what about an ALL DEE-NEE TEAM?  I think this would be sweet.  Everyone could write in and describe what part of the team they want to be on.  For example, if you were a shortstop in highschool, ask to start at short.  Or if you pitched in little league as to be a pitcher.  Or if you have a huge fucking ego like me or the "T.O. of the forums" Vitb6, ask to play center and bat 4th.

Seriously though, it could be a fun idea.  If gantry is starting to get tired in the late innings, should Lips be brought in to pitch hit?  Do you bring in nightwolf to be the closer?  Now is our chance to hit  a wallsy!

You could create a great fun ROM that includes, an all mustache team, the slowest fat-ass team, an all-face team (ugliest players), all tobacco team, all criminal team, all dee-nee team, ect.  This rom could be used when playing the rbi drinking game!

It's funny that you should bring this up.  Since I'm on summer break now, I've been bored and have created two roms like the ones you have mentioned.  I just completed a "decades best" rom yesterday and I did one with the World Series teams of 1980-84 which I think might be a little too powerful.  The 82 Brewers are super dangerous with their power in that one.
I put much more time into the decades best one and I tried creating contact and power scales for the hitters instead of just making up random numbers from my head.  I also souped up the pitching.  Power is way down as Babe Ruth is the only A.  As for teams, I wanted to include the 1961 Yankees but I didn't want to have more than one franschise.  Here are the teams I created and noted players(based on truly great teams and a bit of my bias towards favorites...)  
1909 Pirates - Honus Wagner
1915 Red Sox - Tris Speaker, Babe Ruth as pitcher
1927 Yankees - Murderer's Row of course
1930 A's - Jimmy Foxx, Al Simmons
1948 Indians - Lou Beadreau, Bob Feller (last Indians team to win it all)
1955 Dodgers - Duke Snider, Gil Hodges, Jackie Robinson
1967 Cardinals - Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton
1975 Reds - Big Red Machine
1984 Tigers - very similiar to the amazing 1987 Tigers that I love on original RBI
1992 Blue Jays - Roberto Alomar, Joe Carter, KELLY GRUBER!!!

I'm planning on making a 85-89 World Series team rom and maybe another decades team rom so I can put in the 61 Yanks.

VGP 100, I was actually thinking the same thing!  The 1991 Tigers were awesome.  Fryman, Fielder, Tettleton, PETE INCAVIGLIA, Rob Deer.  All on one team, that's amazing.  I've been looking through my old baseball cards and I'd love to see guys like Steve Jeltz or Sixto last name starts with an L from the Pirates in the game and I think Bob Walk definately deserves some RBI treatment.  

Quote from: The Ross on 05/29/03, 03:01:50 PM
. Sixto last name starts with an L from the Pirates

Sixto Lescano if memory serves me correctly. Boy did the Phillies have some crappy players.

QuoteNo Rollie Fingers?

That was with "real" RBI players, not arcade...

The Ross,

Where are these? I'd love to take a look.

Mike

sucka free, I played baseball as a kid and I frickin' sucked.  I rode the pines for half of every game (except when teammates were on vacation and I was allowed to play a full game - WOO HOO!!!!).  I would always get subbed in for the second worst player on our team, halfway through a game.  And what position would I play?  Right field.  Why?  Because 90% of the players were righties and no one would hit into right field.  Dah-Nah!!!!  I moved on and split time at shortstop for awhile.  Then came the pinnacle of my baseball career...my team was down by so many runs, I was thrown onto the mound to pitch a few.  Now, that was solid.

So throw me in on the ALL DEE-NEE TEAM's bench.  And either sub me in for a right fielder or play me as a shortstop.

An all-decade ROM, like the one THE ROSS created, would be very interesting.  I would love to be able to play your rom ROSS.  Sounds very good.  Maybe, if THE ROSS, is nice enough to share his ROM-  Marquis, maybe you could do the same thing with different teams of the decades, like throw in the 1919 BlackSox for example.  Great ideas from everyone.

I'm more than happy to share my roms.  I created a special account at GeoCities just now to put them up at but they won't take the filenames so a friend of mine put them up on his.......

guncircle39.tripod.com/decades.zip

guncircle39.tripod.com/worldseries8084.zip

He said bandwidth might be low but I'm sure it won't matter.  

A bit of a warning, I don't know anything about using the hex editor so the team names are all from the original.  For the decades, it goes in order from the beginning of the century to the 90s.  For the World Series game, it goes by year with the winner appearing first.  So Phillies are first then Royals since it starts with 1980.
Decades game is probably much better than World Series.  They both need some tweaking - WS is too high on power and then I think I might slow down some guys in the decades version.  The whole starting lineup for the 1909 Pirates have A's for speed except for one guy who has a B-.  For teams 40s on down, I 2X the stolen bases so that they'd compare better with the more current teams but I probably went overboard on the Pirates.  But I don't know.  They stole 156 bases and on baseball-reference.com, says nobody was ever caught.  I don't know if that's from a lack of stats or just because they were really actually fast and catcher's had poor gloves to use which might have led to more dropped balls.  

Another idea I had for a game was to take teams from baseball movies.  You could be the Bad News Bears and play as Kelly Leak or Timmy Lupus.  Or be Wild Thing Vaughn from Major League.

Hope you enjoy the games.  

By the way, "JimWalewander" and "AlPedrique" are already taken by somebody on yahoo.  I was ticked...

Hey, Ross (I hope you don't mind if I leave off the "The"; it's really weird to address someone that way).  I believe the Caught Stealing stat wasn't kept until sometime around the 30's, which explains why there aren't any for those players.  I found this out while doing some research on baseball-reference.com for a ROM I was working on (all-time teams for each team in RBI, plus leftovers from the NL and AL).

My advice would be to keep them fairly quick, since they likely are really short on power hitting.  From what you said, though, they may be a little too quick; it may require some play-testing to get it figured out.  Use them against a friend and see if he/she bitches too much about your speed.  If so, change it (unless the friend is just a natural whiner, in which case you should just steal some more bases and laugh at them).

The ROSS: Good work on the roms. The only one I really looked at is the 80-84 rom. On first appearance there seems to be a lot of low power guys. No one in the original is less than 708, and you have some guys int he 600/500 range. Also a lot of guys with 900+ power. Haven't played it out fully though. Will give it some time.

It's very cool to be able to play with those teams. Brings back a lot of memories. Just out of curiosity, why did you choose those years?

Mike
p.s. Attached is the numerical ratings for that rom so you can take a look.

Glad everyone seems to be enjoying the roms and that they're bringing back memories.  I appreciate the input.

Mike, I created these 80s teams since I'm nostalgic for these teams and players since I've been looking through my baseball cards and since RBI was made in the 80s, I figured it'd make since.  80s were also pretty diverse in different teams appearing in the World Series as compared to other decades.  My next step after making the game was to make a 90s rom but I thought, "Hey, it's going to practically just be the Yankees and the Braves.  I don't like these teams."  I've also thought about a 70s rom but there were only 7 different teams in the World Series.  It'd be too overdone on same teams and same players.  

Thanks for the numerical ratings.  I'll check them out once I'm not on this public library computer.

Ross

Well here's a little teaser for the 90s rom. I hope the image comes out OK.

I still have a lot of work to do. A lot of the player's stats have been entered into the spreadsheet, but when I'm done I'll have to evaluate them to put the stats into ratings. Then do the rest of the tiles (annoying to have to do that 3 times). Then look up things to change with a hex editor like the year, etc. Maybe another week or two to completion.

Mike