Firstly, I'd like to say that I'm excited about the league starting. But there are some questions and issues I'd like to raise before getting started.
I understand the need for straight-ball only pitching. Clearly the time lag is too significant for people playing as the client to react to curves or sinkers. My question, though, pertains to a slight strategic variation that could be thrown into the games to make them more interesting, and avoid the whole problem of time lags. Namely, allowing intentional walks. If it is made clear through some gesture, similar to moving to the side of the rubber for player substitutions, it wouldn't impact the gameplay, but would provide some added strategy to the contests. I'd like to see it done, but I'm just raising the issue for debate.
Secondly, I didn't say anything before about player attributes because I thought they were going to stay consistent among the threepreviously-released RBI2k3 ROMs.
However, when I loaded the Tenegn League ROM into the editor to verify that all attributes were indeed the same, I noticed that the bench of my team, the Rangers, was in fact, very different. Hank Blalock went from 829 power in the RBI2k3 ROM -- which is almost laughable to begin with, considering that he's currently an All-Star, batting .330 with 14 home runs -- to an appalling 768-point power rating in the Tengen League ROM.
Why the change?
And while on the topic, if the Rangers' skills were reduced, why couldn't something be done to the Yankees to bring down from their inflated numbers and provide some parity in the league? Everyone, including the manager of that team who I know made a comment about it earlier on the message boards, understands how lopsided the talent is for the Yanks versus the rest of the field.
To wit, it doesn't take any skill to win when your lowest power rating is 882, and that player also happens to have a disgusting 147 speed rating to go along with it. I mean Bernie Williams has 938 power, and Hank Blalock's numbers were reduced to 768? That's crazy. Why were Blalock's skills reduced in the first place?
Anyway, I just felt the need to get this off my chest. Hopefully something can be done, because I found it kind of aggravating.
Who is this damn Yankee owner! Let's get him!
I figured this would come up sooner or later. Quite honestly, this is the first league anyone has tried to do online, so for now I think we should just go along & cut the commish some slack. Yes there are problems that will arise, but this is a trial run.
I do agree with many things you've said, but not the tone. I think if this league is successful, many things will change. The first thing I can think of is having a rom made especially for online leagues, since gameplay is so different.
Mike
p.s. The rom was created based on last year's stats. Blalock hit .211 with 3HRs & was sent back down to the minors. I don't think a low power is out of line.
I intened for the original message to have an inquisitive tone, not a negative tone, and I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I'm certainly grateful for the efforts of the Commish.
I also find it understandable to have Blalock's numbers somewhat low, seeing as he did struggle when he was in the Majors last season. My confusion stemmed more from the fact that his attributes were reduced in the newly-released Tengen League ROM, opposed to the original 2K3 ROM. Considering the relative skill imbalance imposed by a team of the caliber of the Yankees, I would have expected the attributes of players on other teams to be improved, not reduced, if anything, with the release of the newer version. Actually, I expected the numbers to stay the same, and that's why it came as such a surprise when I saw Blalock's weaker figures. I was confused as to why that particular change was made.
Sorry Scott, It was an honest mistake. What I did to conserve time was to use rom 1 in the editor, and replace the teams not used with the teams selected so we could all play on one rom. If numbers are different, its simply an oversight on my part, since I manually typed them all in for the teams not on rom 1.
As for the ratings. I agree that a change is necessary, but I would like to get through a season first. When I made the original 2k3 roms, I used the only editor available at the time, and that was RBI editor. Now that Nightwulf has created this new editor, I can now be very exact for skill, using simple math to get equivalent numbers by using the top and bottom ratings for each skill, and converting the WSB2k3 ratings over to RBI attributes.
I did want to just wait until I could do this with all the teams, for an updated version, but I may just do it for the league, maybe, depending on how soon, or not, that Gantry can get our seperate board up.
Thanks for pointing out the numerical mistake.
If you would like me to re-rate the hitters power/speed/contact, I will need the best/worst players from the original rom and their ratings in each category. If somebody could find that out it would be great, thanks.
Quote from: clyon81 on 07/09/03, 08:58:08 AM
If you would like me to re-rate the hitters power/speed/contact, I will need the best/worst players from the original rom and their ratings in each category. If somebody could find that out it would be great, thanks.
I think it's a bit unfair to redo the rom or change ratings before the season starts. NY shouldn't be penalized for having a team that has the most power. Oakland has very good power too, so do a lot of teams. Pedro Martinez throws a straight pitch over 100 MPH, that's not fair either.
The point is we all had our choice on what team to choose. The ratings are posted for everyone to see. It was your responcibility to see what kind of teams were out there before joining & picking a team. If we want to change things we should do it after we've played one season & do it before people pick their teams.
Mike
The new Tengen League board has been added, so go ahead and post away over there!! Let me know if there are any issues...
Thanks for the explanation, CLyon.
I can tell you right off, that the roms based on a "Slide scale" are not very accurate, within so many points, but I could get them within a fraction of a point and playing exactly like the original rom (hitters anyway). It was going to be something I did while I waited for the board to be up, but now that it is, we can start! Ill be posting league stuff over there.