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Poll
Question: Who has the best bench in RBI?(excluding AL and NL)
Option 1: California votes: 3
Option 2: Detroit votes: 1
Option 3: Minnesota votes: 0
Option 4: St.Louis votes: 1
Option 5: San Fransisco votes: 2
Option 6: Houston votes: 1
Option 7: New York votes: 1
Option 8: Boston votes: 23
Title: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: northstarbob on 08/16/05, 06:46:50 PM
Personally I would say either Detroit or California...although San Fransisco would run a close 3rd...since i've been playing this game for 12 years...since i was around 6...I've had the most success with Detroit
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Gerlost on 08/16/05, 07:04:52 PM
It's gotta be Boston, no question about it for me.  Burks, Armas, and Henderson are fearsome hitters.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: fknmclane on 08/16/05, 07:05:37 PM
Despite having Stinky Sullivan, the Boston bench is far and away the best.  My only complaint, much like my complaint against the entire Boston squad, is that there are no lefties.

No bench can compete with Burks, Hendu and Armas.  Shit, most teams 3-4-5 can't compete with that.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: TbT on 08/16/05, 07:16:21 PM
i went with BOS but i feel like CAL is right on thier heels.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: northstarbob on 08/16/05, 07:51:46 PM
yes...boston does have a good bench and armas has by far the most power....but the fact that he is by far the slowest player on the game i think brings down the quality of there bench...i personally am not a fan of boston's bench...but still, the fact that boston does have a good bench just can't be ignored...no matter how slow armas is, the power and talent is still there
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: BDawk on 08/16/05, 07:54:14 PM
I gotta go with Cali. That team wouldn't be shit with out the bench. Boston would still be OK without it's bench
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Mark on 08/16/05, 09:11:39 PM
Boston for Ellis.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Gantry on 08/16/05, 09:20:52 PM
Boston, absolutely... 

Quotealthough San Fransisco would run a close 3rd..

No disrespect, but I just can't see any argument for San Fran over Boston.  I am the world's biggest Harry Spilman fan but even so it's not even close...
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/17/05, 08:49:10 AM
In order:

Boston
California
Detroit
NL
New York
San Francisco
Houston
St. Louis
Am
Minnesota

Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: erhajj on 08/17/05, 03:36:35 PM
Man, I thought that this thread was about the RBI player who could bench press the most.  I would have to go with Bic Mac although I wonder who would win the drug free compition.  Julio?
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/18/05, 08:59:09 AM
Quote from: erhajj on 08/17/05, 03:36:35 PM
Man, I thought that this thread was about the RBI player who could bench press the most.  I would have to go with Bic Mac although I wonder who would win the drug free compition.  Julio?

lol

Both were drug free in '87.
Both were roiding at the end of their career.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: erhajj on 08/18/05, 09:34:55 AM
You are right.  McGwire didn't start 'roiding until the early 90's I would guess.  I think the RBI bench press champion would have to be McGwire.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Darky on 08/21/05, 09:38:21 AM
Boston all the way and end of story.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: TbT on 08/21/05, 09:42:26 AM
ive done some rethinking and if DET wasnt so loaded with thier starters, and you would need to use more bench players out the gate they might be more valueable, and probably woulda recieved more than 1 vote...taking away from CAL/BOS votes.  but Mclanes right , Bos bench is probably better than most 3-4-5 hitters out there.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: OctoFranco on 08/21/05, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: Stock on 08/18/05, 08:59:09 AM
Quote from: erhajj on 08/17/05, 03:36:35 PM
Man, I thought that this thread was about the RBI player who could bench press the most.  I would have to go with Bic Mac although I wonder who would win the drug free compition.  Julio?

lol

Both were drug free in '87.
Both were roiding at the end of their career.

What!  Unless you are talking about the Jesus juice, where do you get off accusing Julio?  And even more importantly, how dare you insinuate that the man is already at the end of his career.

This has been a childish response to an unnecessarily personally taken post.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/22/05, 08:17:29 AM
Quote from: OctogenarianFranco on 08/21/05, 11:39:06 PM
Quote from: Stock on 08/18/05, 08:59:09 AM
Quote from: erhajj on 08/17/05, 03:36:35 PM
Man, I thought that this thread was about the RBI player who could bench press the most.  I would have to go with Bic Mac although I wonder who would win the drug free compition.  Julio?

lol

Both were drug free in '87.
Both were roiding at the end of their career.

What!  Unless you are talking about the Jesus juice, where do you get off accusing Julio?  And even more importantly, how dare you insinuate that the man is already at the end of his career.

This has been a childish response to an unnecessarily personally taken post.

Wasn't knocking him for the juice.  If I was doing this, I would have to hate mostly ALL Major Leagers.
I do apologize for me saying he is at the end of his career though.  He had an RBI single last night.  All he needs to do is hit one mor e Home Run and he will be the oldest player EVER to hit one.  Some pitcher back in the 1930s has the current record.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Attezzobal on 08/22/05, 08:28:24 AM
Jack Quinn, 1932 Dodgers, how many times have we been over this?
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/22/05, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 08/22/05, 08:28:24 AM
Jack Quinn, 1932 Dodgers, how many times have we been over this?

I believe he was some pitcher back in the 1930s.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Wilfong on 08/22/05, 09:49:36 AM
I don't think this should be a landslide. I think Ruppert is more consistent than Armas. Wilfong and Hendrick, for me, are better than Henderson and Burks and Burlsn is better than Sullivan.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: ultimate7 on 08/22/05, 09:54:24 AM
I voted for Cali, but now I'm doubting that it was correct

I would take Ruppert over anyone on Boston's bench

Henderson, Burks, and Armas are very good, all somewhat better than Hendrick and Wilfong

Burleson is much better than Sullivan
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: OctoFranco on 08/25/05, 01:57:54 AM
I would like to lodge a formal complaint about Marc Sullivan being considered and RBI legend.  The man's nickname is "Stinky," for god's sake...

It seems the only time I ever get a hit with him is when he hits it out of the park, which is only maybe every 15th pinch hit appearence or so.  My pitchers honestly have a higher batting average than him.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Wilfong on 08/25/05, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/22/05, 09:54:24 AM
I voted for Cali, but now I'm doubting that it was correct

I would take Ruppert over anyone on Boston's bench

Henderson, Burks, and Armas are very good, all somewhat better than Hendrick and Wilfong

Burleson is much better than Sullivan

don't doubt yourself, ultimate. you're 100% right on this one. rupert is better than anyone on boston's bench and hendrick and wilfong are comparable to armas burks and hendu. stinky is terrible, so that's an easy win too. cali has the best player on either bench and boston has the worst.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Gantry on 08/25/05, 03:34:05 PM
The thing with Boston is that starting Armas, Burks and Henderson all game puts you in a better position than starting Ruppert, Hendrick and Wilfong.  Top3 against top3 and Boston definitely has the edge.  To me, if you think Cali is better than you put alot of weight on the 4th sub...
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: DamnTheCowboys on 08/26/05, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/16/05, 09:20:52 PM
I am the world's biggest Harry Spilman fan but even so it's not even close...

:D


I'd like to mention Houston's bench for a moment.  For some reason they are a treat to work with.   I think this has to do with the fact that you have so many holes in that Astros lineup, that you're constantly sitting there in the dugout looking around, telling Terry Puhl to start doing stretches and swinging a bat.   
I like Puhl as the lefthanded hitter who has some pop....he's a guy I like to bring in for Walling around the sixth inning.    Reynolds is terrible too so I like to bring in Lopes, who always gets base knocks and can get triples with his speed.     Ashby almost always has to be subbed for as well, so you bring in Scrap Iron, who has some decent power.   I have a special place in my heart for Dickie Thon since he posts here:
http://thetrolls.net/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=2d2e5f082ef0c2903d40967f90a45e5d

and dude is just a real trooper and always gives it his best when i sub him in.  Houston has a nice, versatile bench, the real definition of a bench.  But those three for Boston are deadly
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: nomaaa on 08/28/05, 07:54:23 PM
i'm glad my bias for boston is precedented here.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/29/05, 08:02:51 AM
Quote from: DamnTheCowboys on 08/26/05, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/16/05, 09:20:52 PM
I am the world's biggest Harry Spilman fan but even so it's not even close...

:D


I'd like to mention Houston's bench for a moment.  For some reason they are a treat to work with.   I think this has to do with the fact that you have so many holes in that Astros lineup, that you're constantly sitting there in the dugout looking around, telling Terry Puhl to start doing stretches and swinging a bat.   
I like Puhl as the lefthanded hitter who has some pop....he's a guy I like to bring in for Walling around the sixth inning.     Reynolds is terrible too so I like to bring in Lopes, who always gets base knocks and can get triples with his speed.     Ashby almost always has to be subbed for as well, so you bring in Scrap Iron, who has some decent power.   I have a special place in my heart for Dickie Thon since he posts here:
http://thetrolls.net/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=2d2e5f082ef0c2903d40967f90a45e5d

and dude is just a real trooper and always gives it his best when i sub him in.  Houston has a nice, versatile bench, the real definition of a bench.  But those three for Boston are deadly

You give Walling 5 innings?  He is the worst hitter on this team (including the entire bench).  Your 3-hitter should be the best overall hitter on the team-not the worst.  For me, Garner goes in the 3-hole immediately.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Shooty on 08/29/05, 09:07:58 AM
The best bench in RBI is New York's.  Its made of non-splinetering wood and has a nice deep varnish.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Big Apple RBI Champ on 08/30/05, 03:29:54 PM
Rupperto over Armas
Burks over Hendrick
Hendu over Burleson
Wilfong over Sully

It's close but I'd take Boston.

Worst bench is Minnetonka.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: rastein on 08/30/05, 04:38:03 PM
This one's tough because for Boston, you use half of their bench the first time through the lineup. Burks to lead off and Armas in the 8 hole. I also use half of Cali's bench the first time through too. So it comes down to who's actually used as a pinch hitter and not just replacing some shitty starterw. In this case, it's gotta be Detroit. Madlock goes in the 5 hole and then you've got some badass lefties to work with late in the game when you actually need a real pinch hitter.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: JoeDirt on 08/30/05, 10:18:22 PM
Quote from: Big Apple RBI Champ on 08/30/05, 03:29:54 PM
Rupperto over Armas

I can't understand how an anything goes player could think this...

Also, what's Big Apple doing back?

This has been the month of the returns...Big Apple, 12eowulf, Octo...
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: DamnTheCowboys on 08/30/05, 11:47:39 PM
Quote from: Stock on 08/29/05, 08:02:51 AM

You give Walling 5 innings?  He is the worst hitter on this team (including the entire bench).  Your 3-hitter should be the best overall hitter on the team-not the worst.  For me, Garner goes in the 3-hole immediately.

Thanks.    I've always have faith in his left-handed slap hit ability to get on base for Davis, maybe too much.     He sucks.   Probably better just starting Garner and not letting Walling fukk things up.    I will try this in the furture.
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Gantry on 08/31/05, 08:08:21 AM
If I were you Cowboys, I would try putting Puhl in for Walling and see how it goes.  Or better yet, Garner for Walling and Puhl for Assby.  To me, Puhl and Doran are the exact same player and there is little benefit in immediately subbing him in. 

I would also recommend you leave Reynolds in the game.  He is the most powerful lefty on Houston and is their best lefty including the bench.  His power is 54 points higher than Walling, which is huge.  Almost the same difference between Joyner & Wilfong, for example...

Give it a shot, I think you'll find that Houston becomes a better team with Walling out of the lineup...
Title: Re: Best Bench in RBI
Post by: Stock on 08/31/05, 11:50:06 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 08/31/05, 08:08:21 AM
If I were you Cowboys, I would try putting Puhl in for Walling and see how it goes.  Or better yet, Garner for Walling and Puhl for Assby.  To me, Puhl and Doran are the exact same player and there is little benefit in immediately subbing him in. 

I would also recommend you leave Reynolds in the game.  He is the most powerful lefty on Houston and is their best lefty including the bench.  His power is 54 points higher than Walling, which is huge.  Almost the same difference between Joyner & Wilfong, for example...

Give it a shot, I think you'll find that Houston becomes a better team with Walling out of the lineup...

Definitely, the biggest mistake people make on Ho (next to leaving Walling in), is taking Reynolds out.  I used to do this all the time before the learnings of power and contact numbers alike.