Pitchers hitting in R.B.I. -- why not put their stats in the game?

[redfanrod]

R.B.I. Editor gives you the capability of including pitchers hitting abilities in the game, yet I don't see people taking advantage of this opportunity when new "homebrew" ROMs are created. I've actually modified a few of these great ROMs to include hitters. For instance, Don Drysdale once hit 7 dingers in a season as a pitcher. That merits a great power rating for a "part-timer" like Drysdale. On the other end of the spectrum, it's more realistic to show that there are some .049 hitters that exist as well.

The ROMs with the pitchers' stats are fun to play with. The ".150, 0 HR" players are a bit generic. Of course, I realize that most modern American League pitchers don't take cuts at the plate (I wish MLB would eliminate the DH) but it is still more interesting to see Joaquin Andujar and his .158 average swinging for the fences.

Please let me know if this topic has been discussed too many times. I'm still a newbie!

[ultimate7]

Basically it would ruin the allure of the possibility of hitting a pitcher HR

[BeefMaster]

In my RBI 2k5 ROM from last spring, I put in actual pitcher stats.  For AL pitchers, I left them with the default ratings, but I gave some NL pitchers bumps if I thought they deserved them.  There was someone who had two homers in '04, and he got a power rating in the 750 range, I think.

I agree with you on the DH - it's a stupid rule.

[redfanrod]

Basically it would ruin the allure of the possibility of hitting a pitcher HR

I've heard that nobody has ever had a pitcher hit a homerun in R.B.I. competition! I know this doesn't count, but I have hit a homerun (maybe two) with R.B.I. 4 for the Sega Genesis. These guys were all .150, 0 HR guys. I was shocked by the shot, measured at something like 375 feet...

I know, that doesn't count!

[BeefMaster]

There are a few here who have claimed to have done it - just off the top of my head, PHole, Baines (on his arcade machine, but pitchers have the same ratings), and former forum member doveRBI.  We also Jimmy Key hit one off the base of the wall in a Fantasy RBI game - it was maybe a couple of pixels from being a wallzie.

[Reds]

I've watched the computer hit a wallzie w/Jimmy Key.  But I still don't think its possible for a human to achieve.

[Big Hath]

yeah, those all-star pitchers just have more power than the rest of 'em

[broiler]

i have hit a homerun with canseco who has pitched in real life mlb play.  chew on that

[Reds]

yeah, those all-star pitchers just have more power than the rest of 'em

Numbers Schmumbers.

It was a watch game, I just refuse to believe it can happen I've played too many games and never seen it.

[nightwulf]

I think the biggest reason it's not used more is that it's more of a pain in the ass to come up with accurate pitcher batting statistics.

[Dryden]

There's been a fair amount of discussion about it over the years, and some people have done it.  All my Roms have pitcher hitting.  The big suggestion that someone made (maybe JoeDirt?) was to turn pitcher career hitting into single season numbers to avoid having an insane power rating as the result of one fluky season by someone like Drysdale, Lemon, etc.

[redfanrod]

There's been a fair amount of discussion about it over the years, and some people have done it.  All my Roms have pitcher hitting.  The big suggestion that someone made (maybe JoeDirt?) was to turn pitcher career hitting into single season numbers to avoid having an insane power rating as the result of one fluky season by someone like Drysdale, Lemon, etc.

I like the way you're thinking, Dryden. I was modifying a ROM yesterday and found that Mitch Williams of Philadelphia went 1-for-1 for a 1.000 batting average. I gave him "modified" ratings that would not allow him to hit much more than .300 (if that).

The "career batting average" for pitchers might be the way to go.

Thanks.

[Attezz]

Or you could use their 162 game average from Baseball-reference.

Warren Spahn was a beast.

[TbT]

id suggest giving them all just a tad more power, and lowering thier contact rating a ways. 

maybe drop thier contact by 20 points and raise thier power by 20 or something like that for example.

it wouldnt give anyone great results, but it might make the possibility of a very rare homer a reality.  maybe it would be something you saw twice a year.  In a tight game, youd have to be careful not to stroke one in there to the pitcher cause they could yard.

[Dryden]

Warren Spahn was mediocre.  Red Ruffing was good.  Bob Lemon was amazing.  Wes Ferrell was incredible.  Bob Caruthers was a beast.

[fightonusc]

Or you could use their 162 game average from Baseball-reference.

Warren Spahn was a beast.

This is basically what I do when making a ROM.

[BDawk]

This thread sounds fun