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Title: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: TbT on 01/30/06, 08:29:04 AM
whats your system for selecting squads? 

We've played various tournaments back in the day where 4 of us would each draft 2 teams and then have playoffs.

lately we've been cotut style selction guys.  Goreds I believe said they randomly would select teams and then play so you never knew what kind of matchup you would be facing......good or bad.

Nate is a SF guy through and through.  so against him i usually run the gammet of opponents to face the giants.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 01/30/06, 08:30:49 AM
Sometimes we pick, sometimes we turn off the TV and move the controller.  About 2 years ago I picked up and 8 and 10 sided die, don't think I've ever used them.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Attezz on 01/30/06, 08:35:39 AM
I typically let my opponent pick and pick accordingly, for instance, Detroit will play either Boston of Cali, Cali will play San Fran Detroit or Boston, Minnesota almost exlusively plays New York, Houston only plays Saint Louis.

So we tend to try to use two teams that are relatively even, for example, California doesn't have as much hitting as Boston, but it makes up the difference in the better pitching.

Random scares me as you never want a  Boston/Houston matchup.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Reds on 01/30/06, 09:00:50 AM
Yeah we actually put the two letter abbreviation of every actual team on eight white plastic poker chips, and added a blue one for "whatever team team you want".  Then drew randomly....it made for real classics...such as Nolan Ryan beating Detroit with a 4-4 day and three runs scored, and 7IP 0 ER.  Makes for just a more exciting game when you get a matchup you would love to see...at one time we also kept score of several games until we decided it was taking too long to score doubling to amount of time it took to platy a game. 

Also Briznock and I played played a few games this weekend, I ended up 1-3...including Minnesota 11 detroit 0....I am realing still after that one...and thats why I lost the other games, also Houston 2 NY1 in extra innings, (he scored his first run on a bop in right field...and a glen davis homer in the 11th.) My only win was Boston 5 St Louis 3 (Rich Gedman three run homer in the fifth) Other game was Ca 3 SF 0 I believe....Mike Witt has thrown 30 consecutive scoreless innings now for briznock...

I believe I am just off my game right now as thats the first serious RBI-ing I've done in a while...so I think we're gonna try and get a few games a week in from now until dee nee fest chi-town...
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Nacho on 01/30/06, 10:09:18 AM
Strassy and I's style of picking teams is that I pick SL and he picks Ho.  Simple enough.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: ericdavisfan on 01/30/06, 12:24:56 PM
I always let my opponent pick, since they're usually novice players.

Then, I always use Houston and will only throw strikes.  This gives them the illusion that they have a fighting chance
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/06, 04:13:00 PM
Random random random
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Gantry on 01/30/06, 05:06:43 PM
The rules:

Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: JoeDirt on 01/30/06, 07:30:25 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/30/06, 08:35:39 AM
California doesn't have as much hitting as Boston, but it makes up the difference in the better pitching.

WTF?  Do you really think Ca's P is better?  ???
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Attezz on 01/30/06, 07:33:26 PM
I do, Hurst can only get it over to one side, and Clemens doesn't have enough curve for me (bear in mind that with 1SP we rarely throw fast/slow balls), whereas Cali has Witt/Sutton who are both curve specialists.

Cali also has 100 stamina whereas Boston only has 84, huge difference with just 1SP.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: TempoGL on 01/30/06, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/30/06, 08:30:49 AM
Sometimes we pick, sometimes we turn off the TV and move the controller.  About 2 years ago I picked up and 8 and 10 sided die, don't think I've ever used them for any reason other than Dungeons and Dragons
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: JoeDirt on 01/30/06, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/30/06, 07:33:26 PM
I do, Hurst can only get it over to one side, and Clemens doesn't have enough curve for me (bear in mind that with 1SP we rarely throw fast/slow balls), whereas Cali has Witt/Sutton who are both curve specialists.

Cali also has 100 stamina whereas Boston only has 84, huge difference with just 1SP.

Yeah, I know...I often throw a handful of fastballs at most and have thrown 0 in a game plenty of times...but even still, I don't agree with your assessment.  I think Sutton is worse than Hurst--if for no other reason than Hurst being L while Sutton is R.

And while I respect the movement of Witt, I don't think he's Roger Clemens.  I think Clemens is a stud on the game.

I think Stanley is a better than Corbett, and Moore sucks more than Scharldi (although admittedly, that one is the battle of the idiots).
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: JoeDirt on 01/30/06, 09:58:43 PM
And for the record, Riley and I used to always play seasons to determine match ups.

One guy would make two sets of 4 teams each and the other guy got to choose which 4 team set he wanted (so the creator of the sets was forced to make them fair)...but we'd use "stipulations" to make teams more even.  For example, I might put SF in one team set and Ca (with no Jackson) in the other...thus making the two teams more even.

Then, once we'd have the teams established, each player would have 2 teams put into one of two divisions.  Then we'd play a four week season (each team playing the four teams that the other guy had).  We'd record HRs, RBI, W, and Sv for each game...and after the playoffs, we'd have the following money pay outs:

WS (best of 7) winner: $25
If one guy won both divisions: $35
Category leader (individual RBI player): $5/each category

But since discovering the 2003 COTUT, we've replicated the tourney (mostly just to get used to the format and to determine how one should choose teams in every possible scenario)...also, this new tourney style bracket seems to allow for more sporadic play than the seasons did.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Attezz on 01/31/06, 08:34:13 AM
Sutton/Witt both have 50 stamina and more curve, Clemens has 44, Hurst as 40, these differences in stamina is HUGE. An extra 6 or 10 pitches a game can make all the difference in the world, this is the main reason why I prefer Cali's pitching over Boston.

Stanley's good, but in my opinion, so is Corbett and Schiraldi and Moore should never make appearances (although Moore has a pretty nice sinker).

I tend to go very deep into games when I use starters, making the difference in stamina huge for me.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: OctoFranco on 01/31/06, 12:57:46 PM
I really like the poker chip idea.

Usually what teams Attezz and I play with determine what kind of series we'll play.  If it's two evenly matched teams, we'll usually go a 5 or 7 game series, but if one of us wants to play with a shittier team on a lark, we'll only go it a 3 game series, or maybe just one game (but still with one starter).  I love a 7 game series with power-hitting teams.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Gantry on 01/31/06, 01:37:44 PM
Agreed, the poker chip idea seems most solid.  I will take credit for it from here on out....
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Reds on 01/31/06, 02:11:12 PM
The poker chip idea also gives you the sense your playing the silly the price is right game for a solid two to three seconds....which is nice.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: TβG on 01/31/06, 02:18:37 PM
plinko
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/31/06, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 01/31/06, 02:18:37 PM
plinko

Cliffhanger was better, but only when they lost and the guy fell off the cliff.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: TβG on 01/31/06, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/31/06, 04:03:47 PM
Cliffhanger was better, but only when they lost and the guy fell off the cliff.

cliffhanger or the putting game was my favorite.  cliffhanger had that awesome yodeling soundtrack.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: VerlairWightSL on 01/31/06, 08:28:47 PM
Cliffhanger ftw.

Here's how I decide teams in RBI: I roll a die, (i.e 6+6 means a random team), and the number decided is random. New York Mets is 9 one game, Angels is 9 the next. Winner rolls the dice, the loser's team is decided by the winner. If I get stuck with the Mets, hope to god I don't get stuck with Kevin "K-Bass" Bass, because that team has a shithole of an offense, but Nolan Ryan is like, one of the only good people on that team.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: BeefMaster on 02/01/06, 08:43:11 AM
Quote from: VerlairWightSL on 01/31/06, 08:28:47 PM
Cliffhanger ftw.

"Filled The Wheelbarrow"?
"Flies Toward Washington"?
"Figs Taste Weird"?
"Fucked Tom Waits"?
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/01/06, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/01/06, 08:43:11 AM
Quote from: VerlairWightSL on 01/31/06, 08:28:47 PM
Cliffhanger ftw.

"Filled The Wheelbarrow"?
"Flies Toward Washington"?
"Figs Taste Weird"?
"Fucked Tom Waits"?

So you were able to decode the rest of the message. or didn't you try?
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 02/01/06, 12:03:53 PM
fuck the world
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: JerryD on 02/01/06, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 02/01/06, 12:03:53 PM
fuck the world

The only ftw I recognize.

(http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/t/tazz/09.jpg)
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: fknmclane on 02/01/06, 01:16:35 PM
The only ftw I recognize

(http://www.tigerarmy.com/images/earlyyearsbig.gif)
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: VerlairWightSL on 02/01/06, 08:27:52 PM
It's for the win. ftw = for the win.

Edit: forgot acronym  :o
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Stock on 02/02/06, 07:51:27 AM
For tournament play:
Each person simply lists all 10 teams in order from best to worst.  This will be their list throughout the tourney.
When 2 people play each other, the first discrepency in the list is your team.
Also, you can never be the same team twice in a row.

Edit: To further explain my last sentence.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: JoeDirt on 02/02/06, 09:46:50 AM
Not bad, Stock.  I still prefer the push-pull method...one guy makes the match ups for the next X amount of games and the other guy gets to choose which side he takes...all but guarantees equity.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: VerlairWightSL on 02/03/06, 03:26:57 PM
I canned my original idea with two die, so I'll just use one instead. The Dice Game woud work. Here's how my dice game works:

Roll the dice, and after one player rolls the dice, he/she can choose their teams like this:

1 sided die - Boston or California (1986 ALCS)
2 sided die - Detroit or Minnesota (1987 ALCS)
3 sided die - New York or Houston (1986 NLCS)
4 sided die - St. Louis or San Francisco (1987 NLCS)
*5 sided die - American or National
6 sided die - you can choose one of the first four tiers

*Note: if the second player says no to American OR National, they can choose their team as if a 6-sided die was rolled. IF the opponent says yes before Player 1 picks his/her team by rolling the dice, then he/she can have American or National go against the other player with their team.

There's lots of drinking to do if one player picked American or National from rolling a 5-sided die :D
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: ultimate7 on 02/03/06, 03:40:32 PM
So the game is decided by which die you choose.  I'd like to see one of these 1 or 2 sided dice, do they work well?
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Stock on 02/03/06, 04:14:44 PM
Would a penny be considered a "two sided die"?
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: BDawk on 02/03/06, 04:58:57 PM
Quote from: VerlairWightSL on 02/03/06, 03:26:57 PM
I canned my original idea with two die, so I'll just use one instead. The Dice Game woud work. Here's how my dice game works:

Roll the dice, and after one player rolls the dice, he/she can choose their teams like this:

1 sided die - Boston or California (1986 ALCS)
2 sided die - Detroit or Minnesota (1987 ALCS)
3 sided die - New York or Houston (1986 NLCS)
4 sided die - St. Louis or San Francisco (1987 NLCS)
*5 sided die - American or National
6 sided die - you can choose one of the first four tiers

*Note: if the second player says no to American OR National, they can choose their team as if a 6-sided die was rolled. IF the opponent says yes before Player 1 picks his/her team by rolling the dice, then he/she can have American or National go against the other player with their team.

There's lots of drinking to do if one player picked American or National from rolling a 5-sided die :D

You're joking, right?
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: Gantry on 02/03/06, 07:16:12 PM
I'm pretty sure he meant the actual # on a 6-sided die...
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: VerlairWightSL on 02/03/06, 10:11:42 PM
The sided die is where it lands and those numbers are on the die.
Title: Re: How do you decide teams in RBI?
Post by: TβG on 02/04/06, 12:56:23 AM
one thing's for sure, i'm dying over here.