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I've always been curious as to the dimensions of Tengen Stadium. So, using the VirtuaNES emulator, I took enough screen captures of a recorded game to be able to "piece together" the entire Tengen Stadium. Assuming that it's 90 feet from home to first, I measured the distance on the image, which gave me a ratio of real feet to image centimeters. From there, all I needed to do was measure the distance on the image to any point, do the conversion to actual feet, and I had the dimensions.
Some key points:
- Obviously, Tengen Stadium is ridiculously small, but even I had no idea how small. This is like Williamsport.
- But, to make up for that, the designers made the pitcher's rubber be only 40.5 feet away from home. It makes you wonder how anyone can catch up to a Nolan Ryan fastball.
- Amazingly, the field appears to be deepest down the lines (232 feet) and shortest in dead center (212 feet). Which makes you wonder if it wouldn't be easier to get a pitcher home run with shots to dead center instead of down the line.
- The outfield wall is 18 feet tall. All listed distances are from home plate to the base of the wall.
- I'm constantly amazed that Tengen Stadium is completely symetrical except that the poles supporting the lights in right field are each one "light" wider than the poles in left field.
Thoughts?
I think you have too much time on your hands.
But it is clearly harder to hit the ball out to CF than the rest of the park
Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/06, 02:56:36 PM
Thoughts?
Yes, my thoughts are your calculations are wrong because you haven't taken into account that we don't get a direct overhead view (which is why it seems to take so long to throw a ball from catcher to 2nd, when really it takes about the same amount of time as a throw from first to third). To get a better idea of CF dimensions, you would do the following:
Measurement on the screen from home to 2nd = 5.5 cm
Measurement on the screen from Home to base of CF wall = 14.5 cm
Knowing that the distance from home to 2nd in real life is approx 127 ft, then if you apply the screen ratio (14.5/5.5), you would get a measurement of 335 ft to the base of the CF wall.
Using this same logic, all the other measurement are incorrect as well, but I love the attempt. We can easily figure out the other dimensions by utilizing this slant calculation, but as I'm about to go home, I'll leave that for someone else.
I hate you.
Dolt.
2 Shay
That's pretty interesting. I wish they would have added home run distances, oh well. RBI 2 and 3 have them, but they aren't the same game as RBI obviously. I still dig 2 and 3 though, more teams and on pt. 3 you can play as the divisional winners from 1983-1989, and as the infamous Tengen Team.
I dunno why they don't count rbi's on these games, when it's right in the title....
i think i agree with shooty. in a thread a couple years ago about this same dimension measurement stuff... i suggested that the calculations are difficult because of perspective. i'm not sure if it's possible to know at what angle the viewer is seeing the field. all calculations would depend on this.
edit: one example of this is that i think it may be safe to assume the height of the outfield wall is the same all the way around, so it looks a lot higher at the point closer to home plate and looks really short in centerfield.
what a project though... good work so far.
Hold on a second. I gotta give fighton mad props for this work, even if his numbers are off. It is starting the discussion to ultimately get the field dimensions--which is a way cool thing.
So fighton, keep fightin' on. Great work.
Shooty, good input. Somebody needs to really rework the numbers to get the actual dimensions!
Actually, I think TBG is on to something. If we can figure out the difference in "height" of the wall, measuring from top to bottom at CF, and the height measuring straight up one of the foul poles, that should give us a fairy good idea of how much the perspective is skewed, and how the measurements need to be adjusted. Right?
Quote from: JoeDirt on 03/24/06, 03:27:03 PM
I'm glad fighton was able to start this thread in spite of his learning disability
Wall schmall. That ain't going to tell you shit unless you have very precise measurent tool. You already know the persepctive based on the numbers I provided earlier. The rest of the dimensions you can figure out using the Pythagurum Theorum and applyng the same ratios to the vertical measurements. I would do it here but I'm getting too many strange looks from co-workers who are watching me holding up a ruler to my screen. I'll do it this weekend if I am bored.
a (2) + b (2) = c (2)
See, I'm smard two.
keep this other picture in mind, in case it helps for some sort of frame of reference. i'd still like to know what the capacity is for tengen field/stadium, and how all those people get to their seats without there being aisles, tunnels, walkways and such.
OK, now figure out the seating capacity of the stadium
I move that we throw in firework dimensions, too.
Tengen Stadium's bases don't form a square. The angle formed by the 3rd-to-home and home-to-1st lines is more than 90 degrees.
That's not a square?
It is not a square.
Those aren't pillows
has anyone ever noticed that the top of the flag poles on the scoreboard light up when you hit a homerun? it's hard to tell from these pics, but i think there's enough evidence to show you what i'm talking about.
i used the heaven vs. hell teams on the rbibrock.nes rom if you want to recreate this.
Jerry--do you know what a square looks like?
wowza...awesome topic. :o i have found pics online before of the whole field pieced together like fighton did.....i believe that would make for an awesome t-shirt.
that's a rhombus or quadrangle...
No, it's a square. We just aren't looking at it at the right direction. It's clearly not a rhombus or a parallelogram...and quadrangle is an architecural term.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 03/24/06, 04:15:07 PM
We just aren't looking at it at the right direction.
if you mean the right perspective--meaning from directly above, i think you now understand the discussion about the field measurements.
Same fuckin' thing. I understood before, so don't worry about me, Teddy. I'm saying that if we had the pleasure of viewing the square from the 3rd base dugout, it'd look more conventional.
some where deep in the anals of dee-nee there was a discussion/thread on the dimensions and i believe they used the ol' ruler effort somewhat similar to shootys ploy.
If it's a square than someone needs to take better pictures.
whats all this square crap talk? everyone friggin knows its a diamond. ;D
I agree with Metal King.
Quote from: JerryD on 03/24/06, 04:31:29 PM
If it's a square than someone needs to take better pictures.
OK, here are the dimensions using my wicked ass math skills:
LF Line: 235 FT
RF line: 235 FT
CF: 331 FT
LCF: 301 FT
RCF: 301 FT
Measured Distance Vertical Horizontal Vert Adj Hor Adj Distance
left field line 4.63 2.00 4.00 162.92 169.71 235.25
Home to 3rd 1.81 0.75 1.50 61.09 63.64 88.22
Home to 2nd 1.56 1.56 127.28 127.28
Home to CF 4.06 4.06 330.93 330.93
First to third 3.00 3.00 127.28 127.28
Home to LCF 3.50 2.25 285.11 95.46 300.66
Home to RCF 3.50 2.25 285.11 95.46 300.66
Don't know how to line up colums, but the first column is actual measured disctance on the scree in inches...used that to determine that 1 vertical inch = 81.49 feet, while 1 horizontal inch = 42.43 ft.
The next two columns are the actual screen measurements (vertical distance first, horizontal distance second), then the next two colums translates these numbers to the full size equivalents. The last column is just the Pythagorum calculation to determine the straight line distance.
Anyway, that was way too nerdy for me...off to go play some poker and fuck some hookers.
You cheated. ;)
Quote from: JerryD on 03/24/06, 06:44:49 PM
You cheated. ;)
So can we put to bed the board's 2nd stupidest debate and agree that it's a square?
(Note: the # 1 stupidest debate on the board was when Rac and Beejay were both arguing that Pujols has more power than Derek Lee).
square? dangitt joe, now your showin us a bunch of X's.
make up yer mind there buddy.
I'll agree JUST for you. :)
I was playing RBI 3 today, the dimensions don't look all that different from the first one. They probably put the LF and RF corners at about 350 ft just to make it more realistic. It just doesn't look any bigger to me.
Home runs hit to left center and right center just over the wall in RBI 2 and 3 usually go for 385-395 feet. Straightaway center right at the top over the fence is around 400-410, and where the seats end it is 430.
The ball gets more carry in rbi 2-3 than the first one BY FAR! I was using the Tengen Team and getting JAMMED and still hitting 410-420 foot shots. This was by a guy with a .350 average and 70 home runs though! I blasted a 488 foot shot without doing the sub-trick, my high with the trick was 509.
Every one of the Tengen Team pitchers can still throw 105 mph in the 5-6-7th innings, and their curve ability is unreal! Each hitter can hit it 470-480 feet also, even the guys with less than 30 homers. Plus they run alot faster than Rickey Henderson on the game, it's a bitch to play against them, but fun as hell to use them!
There's also a little neat thing in the game. On the '84 Padres roster there's a Peart, as in Neil Peart, and on the '83 Phillies there's a Lifeson (with 30 hr), as in Alex Lifeson. And on one of the Tengen Teams there's a Lee as in Geddy. One of the programmers really must like Rush......
I hate to say this but I like RBI 3 better. Not just 'cause I played it today. More teams, hr distances, older teams/players, wooden bats (hah), plus you can switch around your lineups before you start.
That won't stop me from playing RBI though, still gotta try for the centerfield screen changing homerun.
QuoteI hate to say this but I like RBI 3 better.
I was nearly excommunicated for saying this once.
I agree with your assessment of the distances in RBI 3 - I've always figured about 400 to CF and 350 down the lines.
Mad props to fightonusc and Shooty for their kickin' math skilz.
Awesome, awesome thread. Can't believe I waited a few days to read it.
Can we really trust Shooty's math skills though? He is after all Canadian and uses that crazy, crazy metric system.
Oh yeah, I have nothing to add as far as numbers or what is or isn't a square. I suck at all things math.
Quote from: fknmclane on 03/26/06, 08:51:56 PM
Can we really trust Shooty's math skills though? He is after all Canadian and uses that crazy, crazy metric system.
I thought about that so I even measured in inches to not confuse you
dullards Americans.
Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/06, 02:56:36 PM
- I'm constantly amazed that Tengen Stadium is completely symetrical except that the poles supporting the lights in right field are each one "light" wider than the poles in left field.
this factoid has blown my mind
This may be the greatest RBI thread in years, I want more
The shitty part about my method is that I can't apply it outside the stadium. The measurements only work on the playing surface. You can't come come up with measurements for the lights and sky becasue they are elevated items...so you can't say a ball that hits the lights is a 500 foot blast becasue a) I can't even measure it accurately and b) it depends on the trajectory of the ball as where it would really land (and therefore how monterous a shot it is.
can you tell how high the fence is? and do you agree with my theory that it is the same height all the way around the outfield?
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 03/27/06, 01:08:43 PM
can you tell how high the fence is? and do you agree with my theory that it is the same height all the way around the outfield?
I'd have to give it some serious thought on how to measure the fence, but I do not believe it is the same height all the way around the outfield. I mean, I know its probably meant to be, but not sure if it actually is.
The wall height in CF is less than half an inch, while the height at the foul poles is 0.875 inches. Not sure if this is a matter of perspective or whether it actually is different. If ayone wants to offer advice on this, I'm all ears. I haven't taken a math class in about 14 years.
I reran the dimensions using the same formula, and I came up with slightly different numbers than Shooty:
CF: 344 ft.
RF/LF lines: 234 ft.
RCF/LCF: 315 ft.
If you were measuring off of the computer monitor, maybe your resolution is stretching the field a bit?
Hey fighton...can you do a couple a screen shots of the outfield wall in CF and at the poles (i.e. up close pictures) If we get up close photos, it will remove the distance/perspective variable out of the equation.
And yes, I was measuring off the computer screen with a shitty tape measurer, so my calculations are probably a bit off.
maybe someone has a gaphics program that can measure the picture on the screen, that should be more accurate. maybe photoshop or quark or whatever has a tool that will do that.
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 03/27/06, 02:10:21 PM
maybe someone has a gaphics program that can measure the picture on the screen, that should be more accurate. maybe photoshop or quark or whatever has a tool that will do that.
That's what I was using, so I feel pretty strong about these measurements (plus, I used millimeters as part of the "measurement exchange program" between Shooty and I).
millimeters are good, are they smaller than picas?
Here's what the field looks like from overhead. Keep in mind that this in only what the field looks like (the walls and rest of the stadium are inappropriately skewed, but the on field view is good.
...now the infield is a perfect square.
From that view it looks like a HR to CF is about twice as far (exaggeration) as a HR down the line
Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/27/06, 02:22:53 PM
From that view it looks like a HR to CF is about twice as far (exaggeration) as a HR down the line
9.5 CM down the line, 14 CM to CF...so about a 1.5:1 ratio which is consistant with the distances fighton and I have calculated.
so that's how it really looks? if we were looking at the entire field from above? and we'd really be seeing just the top of the wall, right? not the entire face of the wall? so now everything's official?
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 03/27/06, 02:36:21 PM
so that's how it really looks? if we were looking at the entire field from above? and we'd really be seeing just the top of the wall, right? not the entire face of the wall? so now everything's official?
Yes, just the field is the only good part of that mock up.. As for the walls, yes, we would just be seeing the top (i.e. not how its shown here).
if it's all official, are you guys going to post pics? with the final dimensions? this is great research guys.
Here's as official as I'm going to get...
and i hope that the distance from the rubber to the plate was measured FROM THE BACK OF THE 6"-WIDE RUBBER TO THE POINT OF HOMEPLATE (THAT IS 17 INCHES FROM THE FRONT OF THE PLATE TO THE POINT--BACK--OF THE PLATE)
otherwise the measurements will have to be redone.
I did that, dolt.
math is cool
but what about the measurements to the lights and crap like that?
im giving him a bad time. ;)
This should be a show on the Discovery channel.
great thread
I actually think we could work out the dimensions of the bleachers if we figured out how tall each row of seats is (factoring in depth back from the seats, etc.). I need to get back to the Fantasy RBI League, though, so this research will have to be tabled temporarily.
A 3D tour video would be great, thanks.
this is truely phenominal stuff.
1 quick question, and a guess for an answer would suffice. assuming the tengen field had dimensions closer to what a real MLB park has.....for example 350 lines, 375 alleys, 400 center...what would be the home runs then?......maybe just over the bleachers/out of the stadium almost all the way around?
the one thing ive never liked about tengen field is the phone booth atmosphere. >:(
This thread might be the best thread in the history of dee-nee.
i believe its 2nd tothe co-worker dave thread...but its close to the best.
This is a good thread, but it pales in comparison to the work that Nightwulf has discovered, no offense
i do like this thread, and despite my latest outburst, manfredi, my mancrush... you have done excellent work.
and the stadium capacity would be a cool thing to eventually figure out, once you decide how to scale the measurements in the stands.
someone actually could be able to do a 3d mockup of this once all the measurements are finalized. they would win the geek of the month award. it would be cool... i'd like to see that. but that someone wouldn'tbe me.
In case you were wondering about the RBI 2/3 stadium...
There's a couple things weird about it. First off, the pitching rubber is actually more like 64 feet from the plate, since it is exactly between home and 2nd, instead of slightly toward home plate.
Second, in RBI 2/3, home run distances are given, which, unlike the dimensions I have calculated from the stadium image itself, are more in line with a real-life stadium. The distances marked on the walls are the distance from the back of home plate to the base of the wall (based on the 90 feet between bases), not the distance of a home run that would actually clear the wall, but even so, the claimed length of a home run that just barely clears the corner wall is usually around 310 feet, while a home run that should easily clear the "real" wall would only need to be about 275. Similarly, one that just clears in center is around 380-390 feet, but it would only take 360 or so if you go by the picture.
I understand the ned for a "batter's eye" but it doesn't need to be that big, they must be losing tons of revenue. And doesn't having a flourescent green batter's eye kind of defeat the purpose?
Quote from: greatfun0 on 03/30/06, 09:46:13 AM
In case you were wondering about the RBI 2/3 stadium...
There's a couple things weird about it. First off, the pitching rubber is actually more like 64 feet from the plate, since it is exactly between home and 2nd, instead of slightly toward home plate.
Second, in RBI 2/3, home run distances are given, which, unlike the dimensions I have calculated from the stadium image itself, are more in line with a real-life stadium. The distances marked on the walls are the distance from the back of home plate to the base of the wall (based on the 90 feet between bases), not the distance of a home run that would actually clear the wall, but even so, the claimed length of a home run that just barely clears the corner wall is usually around 310 feet, while a home run that should easily clear the "real" wall would only need to be about 275. Similarly, one that just clears in center is around 380-390 feet, but it would only take 360 or so if you go by the picture.
I think the rubber is fine. The bases are actually 85.5 feet apart.
Quote from: Stock on 03/30/06, 09:57:35 AM
I think the rubber is fine. The bases are actually 85.5 feet apart.
Well now there's an idea. Then the home run distances are even shorter! :-P
Quote from: greatfun0 on 03/30/06, 10:01:55 AM
Quote from: Stock on 03/30/06, 09:57:35 AM
I think the rubber is fine. The bases are actually 85.5 feet apart.
Well now there's an idea. Then the home run distances are even shorter! :-P
They make them use wooden bats in the later rbi versions. They had to do something to compensate.
Just one more...
Tengen 2/3 Field as it would appear from above, as accurate as possible with MS Paint!
I love this thread, and it keeps getting better. You are doing some great work greatfun0, keep it up!
All this needs RBIdb/deenee additions...
Could someone put it fence distances on the wall for roms? That would be damn cool.
It would be cool indeed, although perhaps quite difficult, depending on the way the rom handles drawing the gamefield. If numbers are not included in the pattern table for the field, it might be hard to add them without messing up some other part of the field. I myself certainly don't know enough to edit the field... it was hard enough re-arranging the text-only selection screen! :-P
And yes, feel free to add my RBI 2005 rom, well, anywhere you'd like! ;-)
Quote from: greatfun0 on 03/30/06, 10:55:27 PM
It would be cool indeed, although perhaps quite difficult, depending on the way the rom handles drawing the gamefield. If numbers are not included in the pattern table for the field, it might be hard to add them without messing up some other part of the field. I myself certainly don't know enough to edit the field... it was hard enough re-arranging the text-only selection screen! :-P
And yes, feel free to add my RBI 2005 rom, well, anywhere you'd like! ;-)
The entire field is part of the name table, no sprites. I haven't looked, but I doubt it's reasonably possible, as most parts of the field are the same single tile repeated, and positioning a sprite there would be way more trouble than it's worth.
Maybe possible if you position the numbers near something unique (such as the line where the direction of the wall changes). Also possible by adding new tiles for numbers to the name table, but I highly doubt there'd be enough room.
Why do you hate RBI Nightwulf?
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 03/27/06, 02:19:16 PM
Here's what the field looks like from overhead. Keep in mind that this in only what the field looks like (the walls and rest of the stadium are inappropriately skewed, but the on field view is good.
Can you not appropriately skew the walls? Als bumpst for the greatest RBI thread in quite some time.
Quote from: JerryD on 03/24/06, 04:03:20 PM
It is not a square.
Can you spare a square??
I can't spare a square!!
One Square??
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 03/24/06, 06:09:33 PM
Measured Distance Vertical Horizontal Vert Adj Hor Adj Distance
left field line 4.63 2.00 4.00 162.92 169.71 235.25
Home to 3rd 1.81 0.75 1.50 61.09 63.64 88.22
Home to 2nd 1.56 1.56 127.28 127.28
Home to CF 4.06 4.06 330.93 330.93
First to third 3.00 3.00 127.28 127.28
Home to LCF 3.50 2.25 285.11 95.46 300.66
Home to RCF 3.50 2.25 285.11 95.46 300.66
Don't know how to line up colums, but the first column is actual measured disctance on the scree in inches...used that to determine that 1 vertical inch = 81.49 feet, while 1 horizontal inch = 42.43 ft.
The next two columns are the actual screen measurements (vertical distance first, horizontal distance second), then the next two colums translates these numbers to the full size equivalents. The last column is just the Pythagorum calculation to determine the straight line distance.
Anyway, that was way too nerdy for me...off to go play some poker and fuck some hookers.
This is such awesome info...can one of the photo shop boys update the overhead view and the screen shot to have the correct measurements?
Quote from: JoeDirt on 05/11/06, 09:14:35 AM
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 03/27/06, 02:19:16 PM
Here's what the field looks like from overhead. Keep in mind that this in only what the field looks like (the walls and rest of the stadium are inappropriately skewed, but the on field view is good.
Can you not appropriately skew the walls? Als bumpst for the greatest RBI thread in quite some time.
Since all I have is MS Paint, no I can't. Essentially you would only be seeign the top of the wall so it would be easy to do for someone who isn't me.
The Gimp is sleeping (http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/)...
wake him up!
This is the first time that I have read this thread, and I'd like to comment about its amazingnessility.
Been playing this game for 15 years and always wanted to know this.
Here are some assumptions I've made:
-90' base paths
-6' tall players
-Homerun balls land on same plane as slope of stands(approx 45 degrees - see picture atached)
-bat swing of 90mph
Results:
-18' tall fence
-79' tall wall behind stadium
-perspective wouldn't change dimensions very much since picture likely taken at wall height(79') and approx 80' behind home plate.
-Distances are the marks on the 45 degree plane
Here are some other distances I calculated that should help:
line drive normal high fly popup
Angle(deg)20 35 50 70
Pitch(mph)Distance(ft)
75 258 316 314 217
77 268 327 325 227
79 278 340 336 237
81 289 351 348 247
83 300 363 360 257
85 311 375 372 267
87 322 387 383 278
89 333 400 395 288
91 344 412 407 299
93 356 424 419 309
95 367 437 431 320
97 379 449 443 330
99 391 461 455 341
101 404 474 467 351
103 416 487 479 362
105 428 500 491 373
107 441 513 503 popout
109 453 526 515 popout
111 467 539 528 popout
113 480 553 540 popout
115 493 566 552 popout
117 507 579 564 popout
119 522 593 577 popout
121 536 607 589 popout
The only tough part is for the balls that leave the screen bigtime. I am having trouble figuring out distance soley based on impact angle and time in the air. We always know time in the air from the ball noise. Regardless, the table above should help.
Enjoy!
You're my favorite newbie ever.
how are the power alleys shorter than down the lines? They sure don't look like they are, but this is tengen world. . .
Quote from: Ryno on 07/09/06, 04:06:54 PM
how are the power alleys shorter than down the lines? They sure don't look like they are, but this is tengen world. . .
We've gone thru this before. Earlier in this thread I believe.
Its a perspective thing,. The alleys are not shorter
Man, this is an impressive waste of brainpower, on par with those who conjugate verbs and speak in Klingon. Well done.
You're right. They're not shorter. If anything, the right line, and both RCs are equal -- or, a hair off of eachother.
What we do know is center is farther. The real beauty is in the deeper homerun lengths.
Quote from: Duhbigcat on 07/09/06, 05:08:40 PM
Man, this is an impressive waste of brainpower, on par with those who conjugate verbs and speak in Klingon. Well done.
Go fuck yourself.
I'm a Wharf at Star tREK CONVENTIONS
ive never told anyone, but ive always secretly thought klingon chicks are kinda sexy. dark skin, and always had nice dark long hair.
i don't like how the oc is behind to the creamy pirates in that stadium pic. bdawk, get on it. (or your klingon honor is at stake)
I have not gone back and skimmed through this thread......
Has anyone taken into account that the camera angle isn't exactly over head?
PS, whoever used heaven vs hell is awesome.
I want to get those teams on a cartridge.
Quote from: Briznock on 08/09/06, 09:24:39 AM
I have gone back and skimmed through this thread......
Has anyone taken into account that the camera angle isn't exactly over head?
Indeed we have. Your skimming skills need work.
I just spent a few minutes looking a picture of dodger stadium, trying to figure out distances using the methods in this thread. I don't think it's possible to determine distance outside the diamond without knowing one of the outfield measurements or the angle of view in the game. Even then, it would still be difficult math for most of us, primarily due to the perspective issue (the farther away two points are from the viewer, the closer they seem).
Anyway, I think the measurements are still just a guessing game, so there's my two poops in the cheerios.
Great fuckin work Fighton. I would say that that looks about right considering some of the moonshots that are hit in RBI. I always wondered what the dimensions were, and now I know. Great work. Solid. What about the height of the fence down the lines? Is it like just a line on the ground? Just wondering on the homeruns hit down the line in the corner when the ball goes thru the fence.
Quote from: greatfun0 on 03/30/06, 09:46:13 AM
In case you were wondering about the RBI 2/3 stadium...
There's a couple things weird about it. First off, the pitching rubber is actually more like 64 feet from the plate, since it is exactly between home and 2nd, instead of slightly toward home plate.
Second, in RBI 2/3, home run distances are given, which, unlike the dimensions I have calculated from the stadium image itself, are more in line with a real-life stadium. The distances marked on the walls are the distance from the back of home plate to the base of the wall (based on the 90 feet between bases), not the distance of a home run that would actually clear the wall, but even so, the claimed length of a home run that just barely clears the corner wall is usually around 310 feet, while a home run that should easily clear the "real" wall would only need to be about 275. Similarly, one that just clears in center is around 380-390 feet, but it would only take 360 or so if you go by the picture.
I was not wondering. Don't give a flying fuck about RBI 2/3. Maybe Rocky 2/3. But nice try on hijacking this briliant thread.
Someone do this with the picture of the field at the bottom of the pitcher selection screen......
i nominate fightonusc to be the official dee-nee ambassador for rbi.