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Started by fightonusc, 03/24/06, 02:56:36 PM

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fightonusc



I've always been curious as to the dimensions of Tengen Stadium. So, using the VirtuaNES emulator, I took enough screen captures of a recorded game to be able to "piece together" the entire Tengen Stadium. Assuming that it's 90 feet from home to first, I measured the distance on the image, which gave me a ratio of real feet to image centimeters. From there, all I needed to do was measure the distance on the image to any point, do the conversion to actual feet, and I had the dimensions.

Some key points:

- Obviously, Tengen Stadium is ridiculously small, but even I had no idea how small. This is like Williamsport.
- But, to make up for that, the designers made the pitcher's rubber be only 40.5 feet away from home. It makes you wonder how anyone can catch up to a Nolan Ryan fastball.
- Amazingly, the field appears to be deepest down the lines (232 feet) and shortest in dead center (212 feet). Which makes you wonder if it wouldn't be easier to get a pitcher home run with shots to dead center instead of down the line.
- The outfield wall is 18 feet tall. All listed distances are from home plate to the base of the wall.
- I'm constantly amazed that Tengen Stadium is completely symetrical except that the poles supporting the lights in right field are each one "light" wider than the poles in left field.

Thoughts?
Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/13/17, 08:32:00 AM
there are also folks complaining about the lack of Bobby Grich, Dwight Evans, and Willie Randolph.

Mike D.

I think you have too much time on your hands.
"Drinking and playing RBI is a great idea!  Kinda like drinking and, well, anything else!"- Kevin McDonald, Boston neighbor

ultimate7

But it is clearly harder to hit the ball out to CF than the rest of the park
Quote from: Dårky on 11/02/10, 12:04:50 AM
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Shooty

Quote from: fightonusc on 03/24/06, 02:56:36 PM
Thoughts?

Yes, my thoughts are your calculations are wrong because you haven't taken into account that we don't get a direct overhead view (which is why it seems to take so long to throw a ball from catcher to 2nd, when really it takes about the same amount of time as a throw from first to third).  To get a better idea of CF dimensions, you would do the following:

Measurement on the screen from home to 2nd = 5.5 cm
Measurement on the screen from Home to base of CF wall = 14.5 cm

Knowing that the distance from home to 2nd in real life is approx 127 ft, then if you apply the screen ratio (14.5/5.5), you would get a measurement of 335 ft to the base of the CF wall.



Shooty

Using this same logic, all the other measurement are incorrect as well, but I love the attempt.  We can easily figure out the other dimensions by utilizing this slant calculation, but as I'm about to go home, I'll leave that for someone else.

fightonusc

Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/13/17, 08:32:00 AM
there are also folks complaining about the lack of Bobby Grich, Dwight Evans, and Willie Randolph.

Shooty


fightonusc

Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/13/17, 08:32:00 AM
there are also folks complaining about the lack of Bobby Grich, Dwight Evans, and Willie Randolph.

Metal King

That's pretty interesting.  I wish they would have added home run distances, oh well.  RBI 2 and 3 have them, but they aren't the same game as RBI obviously.  I still dig 2 and 3 though, more teams and on pt. 3 you can play as the divisional winners from 1983-1989, and as the infamous Tengen Team.

I dunno why they don't count rbi's on these games, when it's right in the title....

TβG

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i think i agree with shooty.  in a thread a couple years ago about this same dimension measurement stuff... i suggested that the calculations are difficult because of perspective.  i'm not sure if it's possible to know at what angle the viewer is seeing the field.  all calculations would depend on this.

edit:  one example of this is that i think it may be safe to assume the height of the outfield wall is the same all the way around, so it looks a lot higher at the point closer to home plate and looks really short in centerfield.

what a project though... good work so far.

Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

JoeDirt

Hold on a second.  I gotta give fighton mad props for this work, even if his numbers are off.  It is starting the discussion to ultimately get the field dimensions--which is a way cool thing.

So fighton, keep fightin' on.  Great work.
Shooty, good input.  Somebody needs to really rework the numbers to get the actual dimensions!
Quote from: BDawk on 10/10/07, 08:16:42 AM
The dee nee tard mixed in with gantry looks a little bit like TBT

fightonusc

Actually, I think TBG is on to something. If we can figure out the difference in "height" of the wall, measuring from top to bottom at CF, and the height measuring straight up one of the foul poles, that should give us a fairy good idea of how much the perspective is skewed, and how the measurements need to be adjusted. Right?
Quote from: BeefMaster on 11/13/17, 08:32:00 AM
there are also folks complaining about the lack of Bobby Grich, Dwight Evans, and Willie Randolph.

ultimate7

Quote from: JoeDirt on 03/24/06, 03:27:03 PM
I'm glad fighton was able to start this thread in spite of his learning disability
Quote from: Dårky on 11/02/10, 12:04:50 AM
The Raiders are a successful organization

Shooty

Wall schmall.  That ain't going to tell you shit unless you have very precise measurent tool.  You already know the persepctive based on the numbers I provided earlier.  The rest of the dimensions you can figure out using the Pythagurum Theorum and applyng the same ratios to the vertical measurements.  I would do it here but I'm getting too many strange looks from co-workers who are watching me holding up a ruler to my screen.  I'll do it this weekend if I am bored.

JoeDirt

a (2) + b (2) = c (2)

See, I'm smard two.
Quote from: BDawk on 10/10/07, 08:16:42 AM
The dee nee tard mixed in with gantry looks a little bit like TBT

TβG

keep this other picture in mind, in case it helps for some sort of frame of reference.  i'd still like to know what the capacity is for tengen field/stadium, and how all those people get to their seats without there being aisles, tunnels, walkways and such.
Quote from: Nacho on 03/15/16, 10:17:08 AMWe've had babe drafts. We've had a sandwich draft. We can have our babes and eat sandwiches, too.

BDawk

OK, now figure out the seating capacity of the stadium

JoeDirt

I move that we throw in firework dimensions, too.
Quote from: BDawk on 10/10/07, 08:16:42 AM
The dee nee tard mixed in with gantry looks a little bit like TBT

JerryD

Tengen Stadium's bases don't form a square.  The angle formed by the 3rd-to-home and home-to-1st lines is more than 90 degrees.
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JoeDirt

Quote from: BDawk on 10/10/07, 08:16:42 AM
The dee nee tard mixed in with gantry looks a little bit like TBT