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Title: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: miker020 on 04/27/02, 09:51:54 PM
I don't understand why you would possibly not include Billy Madlock with your RBI legends.  The guy is a beast.  He doesnt have the same shock value as say, Terry Puhl, but despite having 14 homers he hits like he has 60.  I put his power level somewhere between evans and mcgwire.  His lack of speed on the basepaths notwithstanding, he is still an absolute monster.  Sub him for hernanadez in the 5 spot, and let the good times roll.  If you can overlook madlock for teuful as as RBI legend, then I can't respect anything you say.  
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gwynn3k on 04/28/02, 01:43:48 PM
madlock's numbers are too good to merit being a legend... that status goes to the guys who arent supposed to mash yet they always seem to come up large.  madlock has 14 knocks whereas most of the legends are in single digits, most often less than 5.  
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: GPines on 04/28/02, 03:59:37 PM
Hey Miker, it's Herndon, not Hernndez. Just helping you out.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: miker020 on 04/28/02, 06:48:07 PM
i guess you have a point there about his numbers.  
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Dill on 04/29/02, 06:51:37 PM
Finally, someone else has the same respect for Bill Madlock.  As you can see, he is the best pinch hitter.  The way I look at it, if there are 2 outs in the ninth and I need a big pinch hit, there is no one better than Madlock to come through.  I would choose him over any other pinch hitter.  A beast in the 5 hole.  The guy is a true professional hitter.  
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gantry on 04/30/02, 07:41:22 AM
There are a couple reasons why Madlock wasn't a legend.  

1)  The RBI Legends page was originally meant for giving props to the heroes of RBI who most people don't know anything about.  Given that Madlock is a very well-known player (and got some Hall-of-Fame votes), we didn't include him.   That is also why Armas and Burks aren't on there...

2)  None of use Madlock as a starter on a consistent basis.  I know he has the pop, but we are lefty-bigots over here.  Madlock is very prone to the double-play for us, so we go Sheridan (and Bergman for a couple of us) over Mad-Dog.  He is a terror as a one-AB pinch hitter though...

3)  When we got a legend for every team up there, we were content with the legends of RBI.  The only team that has more than one legend was Cali, and that's because they are my top team (and I did most of the writeups).   They do seem to be a success, so perhaps I'll get around to adding a few more.  

I got no beef with Madlock, so perhaps he'll get his legen page up there someday...
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gwynn3k on 04/30/02, 10:51:04 AM
anyone who is on an rbi roster is a legend as far as i am concerned...  lets give it up to dimebag (dino) darryl strawberry who gets to spend the next 18 months trading cigarettes for phone privledges...  way to go darryl, enjoy your time in the hole.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: GPines on 04/30/02, 02:23:46 PM
Thats funny to mention that Joe, I saw that on the 7AM sportscenter before I left this morning, I said hey there's Drugs.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: B on 04/30/02, 05:30:56 PM
i will say it here, bill madlock rules...first off, props to whoever used the term "professional hitter"...although that is usually reserved for mr. heath coming off the bench, ive dubbed madlock the best pure hitter in baseball.....im not sure why, but the guy does nothing but produce...the only man ever,  between me and t that is, to hit 5 homeruns in one curve pitch game....the case can be made for him being the most dangerous 5 hitter, and him and rupert jones vie for the most consitently lethal hitters off the bench....
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gwynn3k on 05/01/02, 12:27:59 AM
there was a time where madlock was feared around these parts... however, nowadays, he hasnt been the same old guy.  thus, sheridan has assumed his spot in the five hole and is solid each and every game.  madlock is still there for a late inning situation but no longer plays nine innings...  
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gantry on 05/01/02, 07:21:48 PM
The dee-nee house is in the same position as Gwynn, Madlock has his moments and used to be the top dog off the bench, but he has clearly been usurped by Sheridan.  If you go a second sub on Detroit and aren't all lefties, Madlock is the obvious choice.  But I can't ever seen him taking Sheridan's place in a straight-pitch game...
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Dill on 05/01/02, 10:40:56 PM
I can't believe yall leave Bill Madlock on the bench.  He thrives as the 5th batter in that lineup.  If yall were smart you would put PS in the hole instead of Matty Nokes.  He is a better hitter.  Gets more hits and he is always a candidate for a double.  Madlock is a better hitter, but he is better as the 5th batter, and PS is better than Matty.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: GPines on 05/02/02, 01:44:39 PM
Sheridan and Madlock are both good, I usually start one in the 5 hole depending on if the pitcher is righty or lefty. then later if the pitcher gets changed the other goes in.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: B on 05/02/02, 10:42:21 PM
i feel that fatty matty gets a bit of a bad rap too....slow as shit, true.....always swinging for the fences, sure....but the guy was solid in my last two series....and is looking very good behind the plate....how do you guys feel about candice bergman?....he never gets much pub....

also, daryl evans is now referered to as "linda evans" or "wasnt she on dynasty?"
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gwynn3k on 05/03/02, 08:42:03 AM
bergman is third fiddle on a team with great pinch hitters... it isnt so much a knock on him as it is props to their bench...on any other team, he is probably first off the bench.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gwynn3k on 05/03/02, 08:48:06 AM
since when did mike cameron start playing rbi...  what a night!
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: bonny on 03/23/10, 05:18:36 PM
Madlock destroys Tony Fernandez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8tEZi-bHtU&NR=1
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Nacho on 03/23/10, 05:31:12 PM
<-----Never knew Madlock was black.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: bonny on 03/23/10, 05:34:15 PM
Madlock was the shit. Always on league leader and all star cards when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: bonny on 03/23/10, 05:37:38 PM
(http://danhughesbooks.com/autographs/DBMN/madloc84.jpg)
Ice Cube
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Attezz on 03/23/10, 05:47:51 PM
It's been posted before, but, open letter to Bill Madlock (http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/openletters/billmadlock.html)

Also, had no idea that Darrell Evans was white.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Nacho on 03/23/10, 06:02:56 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 03/23/10, 05:47:51 PM
Also, had no idea that Darrell Evans was white.

I learned this only recently as well.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Nacho on 03/23/10, 06:03:24 PM
Actually, I was thinking of Dwight Evans.  I never realized Dwight Evans was white.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: fathedX on 03/23/10, 06:14:26 PM
Bonny is right, Madlock was everywhere in the late 70s.  My favorite player has always been Ken Griffey Sr.  He would have won the batting title in 1976 with a .336 if not for Maddog's .339.  Guy could flat out hit.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: bonny on 03/23/10, 06:43:53 PM
(http://www.tristarproductions.com/Sales/Images/Baseball/Giants/I0014405.jpg)
18 career ejections

redass
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: bonny on 03/23/10, 06:55:31 PM
http://www.thebaseballpage.com/players/madlobi01.php
lots of good shit here
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: BDawk on 03/23/10, 06:56:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckw7V7U2eMs&NR=1

Check out Johnny Wokenfuss and his stance
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gantry on 03/23/10, 08:00:41 PM
How many different teams did he play for?
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: BDawk on 03/23/10, 08:11:15 PM
some
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gantry on 03/23/10, 08:31:46 PM
I didn't ask how many strains of teh AIDS you had...
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Darky on 03/23/10, 08:49:13 PM
Madlock has been a pleasure to have on my team in the FRBI league. The dude can hit for average and for power. He's very consistent and is a great team leader.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: BeefMaster on 03/24/10, 08:18:24 AM
Quote from: Nacho on 03/23/10, 05:31:12 PM
<-----Never knew Madlock was black.

Same here.
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Shooty on 03/24/10, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: BDawk on 03/23/10, 06:56:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckw7V7U2eMs&NR=1

Check out Johnny Wokenfuss and his stance

He's the anti-Tony Batista
Title: Re: Bill Madlock: give him some respect
Post by: Gantry on 03/24/10, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/24/10, 08:18:24 AM
Quote from: Nacho on 03/23/10, 05:31:12 PM
<-----Never knew Madlock was black.

Same here.

Bunch of racists on this website...