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A league is available that pays tribute to most dominant team in baseball...the Yankees and to the teams that have defeated the Bronx bombers.  The Yankees have won 23 World Series in the past century and appeared in the Series about 40 times.  Yankee teams for the tribute league were selected by distinct era with no overlap in players.  The 27, 39, 55, 61, 77 and 00 World Champion Yankees team were selected.  Five Yankee oponents were selected based on the following criteria;

1.  They had to be within the same decade as a selected Yanks team.
2.  They had to have beat the Yankees in divisional play, a penant race or a World Series championship.
3.  They had to have won the World Series for that particular year.
4.  Teams were preferentially selected for power.

The teams of the league are;

27 Yankees
Hall of Famers (Hofers): Ruth, Gehrig and Others
Strengths:
Hitting features Ruth and Gehrig both with top shelf power.
Meusal, Combs and Lazzeri provide a supporting role.
Weaknesses:
Outside the top players there is little power.
Pitching

30 Athletics
Hofers:  Foxx, Cochrane, Simmons and Grove
Strengths:
If the 27 Yanks are murderers row then Lefty Grove is the lethal injection.  He went 28-5 in 30 and also saved 5 games.  Foxx and Simmons have 2nd shelf power.
Weakness:  Outside of Foxx, Simmons there is little power.  Outside of the dominant Grove, the pitching is weak.

39 Yankees
Hofers:  Dimaggio, Dickey
Strengths:
Dimaggio 56 game hitting streak in 39 is one of the most amazing feats in baseball history.
Every player in the starting lineup of the team has at least 10 HRs
Weaknesses:
Pitching
Lots of warning track power

55 Dodgers
Hofers:  Snider, Robinson, Campanella, Reese
Strengths:
Features 4 hitters with 2nd shelf power; Snider, Campanella, Hodges, Furillo and a pitcher that hits like Kirby Puckett (Newcombe .359 7 HRs in 111 ABs)
Weakness
Pitching

(con't)

wheres the option for the RBI arcade version yanks?

They were pretty damn good. not so hot pitching wise, but pretty damn good.

con't

61 Yanks
Hofers: Mantle, Maris, Ford
Strengths:
This is a truly dominant team featuring two players with top shelf power (Mantle and Maris) and two wily lefty pitchers (Ford and Arroyo).
This team also has a lineup with 7 or 8 players with HR power!

Weakness:  Other than Mantle, no speed, although when everyone hits the ball a 1000 feet who needs speed.

76 Reds
Hofer caliber: Morgan, Bench, Rose
Strengths:  Morgan is the fastest player out of the 10 teams and is a true SB threat.  Rose is a solid contact hitter that follows.  The team has some pop with Foster, Morgan, Perez and Bench.
Weakness:
Pitching

77 Yankees
Hofer caliber: Jackson, maybe Munson
Strengths:  Features top shelf power of Jackson who hit 3 HRs in a row in the 77 series.  Nettles is a legit HR threat and Chambliss, Rivers and Munson can hold there own.
Weakness: 
Not as powerful as some teams, the pitching is ok

93 Blue Jays  Developed for Canadians that hate the Yankees
Hofer caliber:  Molitor, Henderson, Alomar
Strengths:  This team is fast, Henderson and Alomar stole over 100 bases combined.  Olerud, Molitor, Carter along with Henderson and Alomar all are hitting threats.
Weakness:
Pitching

00 Yankees
Hofer caliber: Jeter, Clemmens, Rivera
Strengths:  This is a truly amazing team with great pitching; Clemmens and Rivera, great hitting, and a powerful bench.
Weaknesses: 
no top shelf power

04 Red Sox
A Yankees tribute League cannot be complete without an underdog Red Sox team.
Hofers: Ramirez, Martinez
Strengths:  Two 2nd shelf HR threats Ramirez and Ortiz, Martinez is dominant and wily.  Wakefield has some crazy stuff.
Weaknesses: 
No top shelf power

04 Red Sox

Quote from: Duhbigcat on 06/28/06, 06:34:56 AM
The Yankees have won 23 World Series in the past century and appeared in the Series about 40 times.

I love this.

Roger Maris is not in the Hall of Fame.

Neat idea, though.  Do you have the ROM available anywhere?

Your power rankings seem very low, I think the top 3 teams looking at the ROM data are the 60 Yanks, the 2000 Yanks and the '04 Red Sox

'93 Blue Jays

Quote from: ultimate7 on 06/28/06, 10:03:26 AM
Your power rankings seem very low, I think the top 3 teams looking at the ROM data are the 60 Yanks, the 2000 Yanks and the '04 Red Sox

Holy cow - just finally looked at the ratings, and I agree.  Not much speed, either.

How the hell is Joe Morgan faster than Rickey Henderson?

Jackie Robinson's only a 140 speed.

PeeWee Reese should be hitting second for the Dodgers.

Other than the ridiculously slow players. Great work with (some) of the pitcher's hitting stats.

Quote from: Attezzobal on 06/28/06, 10:47:14 AM

Other than the ridiculously slow players. Great work with (some) of the pitcher's hitting stats.

Uh, Don Newcombe has the 16th most power in the game (top 10%), I'm not sure the pitchers hitting stats are all that accurate

I just checked it out, and I think Newcombe and Red Ruffing are the only pitcher hitting stats that were changed.

So great work should read "what are you, an idiot?"

Quote from: Attezzobal on 06/28/06, 10:58:18 AM
I just checked it out, and I think Newcombe and Red Ruffing are the only pitcher hitting stats that were changed.

So great work should read "what are you, an idiot?"

Some of the other contact ratings were changed, but very few power ratings (other than one guy who got moved down to 600).

Attezz will probably disagree, but I don't like that Mantle has a higher power rating than Maris.

I've don't have much problem with Mantle having a higher power rating (I think he certainly had more power than Maris, Mantle hit enormous HRs while Maris pulled most of his over the short fence in RF), but Mantle should not be that much faster than Maris (or the rest of the team for that matter).

'04 Red Sox.

and '06 Red Sox

and 1990 Red Sox.

1906 Cubs (who gives a fuck about WS wins anyway?)

why are the 04 red sox considered one of the greatest teams ever by this guy?

east...coast...bias

edit: i guess they meet his criteria, but the 04 red sox are annoying to no end. 

Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/28/06, 11:13:11 AM
Attezz will probably disagree, but I don't like that Mantle has a higher power rating than Maris.

You doubt my love for Maris?

Quote from: Attezzobal on 06/28/06, 12:09:15 PM

Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/28/06, 11:13:11 AM
Attezz will probably disagree, but I don't like that Mantle has a higher power rating than Maris.

You doubt my love for Maris?

I guessed that your opinions of Mantle and Maris may have been shaped by your father, who you mentioned before was a huge Mantle fan and used to deface Maris' baseball cards.

wasn't it the other way around?

Mantle was a fast fucker when he was healthy...which wasn't often.

Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/28/06, 12:21:30 PM

Quote from: Attezzobal on 06/28/06, 12:09:15 PM

Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/28/06, 11:13:11 AM
Attezz will probably disagree, but I don't like that Mantle has a higher power rating than Maris.

You doubt my love for Maris?

I guessed that your opinions of Mantle and Maris may have been shaped by your father, who you mentioned before was a huge Mantle fan and used to deface Maris' baseball cards.

That's true.

But having spent many formative years in Fargo, with plenty of Maris memorabilia around, my love for Maris became greater than Mantle (even my father learned to like Maris).

I also love Rick Helling.

Quote from: natty gann on 06/28/06, 12:31:43 PM
i think everyone will agree with my vote for... 85 bears.

This is not the greatest Yankees League in the world. This is a Tribute!

Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 06/28/06, 12:31:43 PM
Mantle was a fast fucker when he was healthy...which wasn't often.

Yeah so 138 is right, could even be low, but 122 shouldn't be the 2nd fastest guy on the team

1.  Mantle actually still holds the home to first time record.  Mantle's around the bases times were as fast as Maury Wills.  By 61 his speed had deterioated quite a bit, but he still managed to steal 12 bases at a time where base stealing wasn't en vogue.  Maris was not nearly as fast.

2.  Mantle had a greater AB/HR ratio than Maris in 61, a much higher SLG% and also holds the record for the longest HR in history at 620 ft.

Quote from: Duhbigcat on 06/28/06, 05:43:53 PM
1.  Mantle actually still holds the home to first time record.  Mantle's around the bases times were as fast as Maury Wills.  By 61 his speed had deterioated quite a bit, but he still managed to steal 12 bases at a time where base stealing wasn't en vogue.  Maris was not nearly as fast.

I don't believe that for a second

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2.  Mantle had a greater AB/HR ratio than Maris in 61, a much higher SLG% and also holds the record for the longest HR in history at 620 ft.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you for 100 bucks.

That home to first thing still makes me chuckle (http://experts.about.com/q/Baseball-Trivia-General-2552/fastest-player-home-first.htm)

And I think even the most adamant of fans admit that Mantle never hit on 620 (the claim was it happened in old Griffith Park, right? Or was it Tiger Stadium? Either way, it never happened).

3.  By 1955 Robinson was 36 years old and only stole 12 bases, a speed rating of 140 seems generous under the circumstances.

4.  Newcombe hit .359 with 7 HRs in 1955 in 111 ABS.  Extrapolated over a season this equates to about 35HRs, he even stole a base.  I think his ratings are a legit tribute to the greatest hitting performance by a pitcher since Babe Ruth.

5.  Is there a good reason to continue to compile pitcher statistics in the DH era where a pitcher might get 20 ABs per season.  

6.  I do agree that hitting stats should be compiled for the 27 Yanks and the 30 Athletics for consistency.

7.  Should Hendersons speed be higher than Morgan?  HHmmm, maybe.  Morgan stole 60 bases and got caught 9 times in 76.  Henderson stole 53 bases and got caught 8 times in 93.  I guess it depends on perspective.  Obviously Henderson is the all time most prolific base stealer barr none, but if that year was used for comparison, Morgan was superior.

8.  The power ratings and speed ratings are too low for the weaker hitters and too high for the "top shelf" hitters.  A log model instead of a linear model should be used to calculate the power and speed numbers.  This would even out game play.

Mantle was also the only player to ever come close to hiting the ball out of Yankee Stadium with a shot that hit off of the right field facade that would have travelled an est. 565 feet.  You can dispute the 3.1 second home to first time and whether the shot at Griffith stadium actually travelled 643 feet, but anyway it is well documented that Mantle was fast and powerful. 

Quote from: Duhbigcat on 06/28/06, 06:21:03 PM
it is well documented that Mantle was fast and powerful. 

by many women who attest to mantle's post-game exploits

Quote from: Duhbigcat on 06/28/06, 06:21:03 PM
but anyway it is well documented that Mantle was fast and powerful. 

Do you have any idea the list of players that it's been documented were fast and powerful?

And someone has to put in this thread (since everyone knows it) that Henderson admits he was never even the fastest on his team blah blah blah.

60 stolen bases in 69 attempts = 86.9% success rate
53 stolen bases in 61 attempts = 86.8% sucess rate

wow, what an edge morgan has on henderson

Yes, Morgan has the same SB success rate as Henderson, but 7 more SBs. 

Mickey Mantle was so fast that he could turn off his bedroom light switch and be passed out unconscious on the floor with a bottle of whiskey in his hand before it got dark.

Quote from: fightonusc on 06/29/06, 11:45:56 AM
Mickey Mantle was so fast that he could turn off his bedroom light switch and be passed out unconscious on the floor with a bottle of whiskey in his hand before it got dark.

:POW:

Quote from: Duhbigcat on 06/28/06, 06:11:30 PM
3.  By 1955 Robinson was 36 years old and only stole 12 bases, a speed rating of 140 seems generous under the circumstances.

4.  Newcombe hit .359 with 7 HRs in 1955 in 111 ABS.  Extrapolated over a season this equates to about 35HRs, he even stole a base.  I think his ratings are a legit tribute to the greatest hitting performance by a pitcher since Babe Ruth.

5.  Is there a good reason to continue to compile pitcher statistics in the DH era where a pitcher might get 20 ABs per season. 

6.  I do agree that hitting stats should be compiled for the 27 Yanks and the 30 Athletics for consistency.

7.  Should Hendersons speed be higher than Morgan?  HHmmm, maybe.  Morgan stole 60 bases and got caught 9 times in 76.  Henderson stole 53 bases and got caught 8 times in 93.  I guess it depends on perspective.  Obviously Henderson is the all time most prolific base stealer barr none, but if that year was used for comparison, Morgan was superior.

8.  The power ratings and speed ratings are too low for the weaker hitters and too high for the "top shelf" hitters.  A log model instead of a linear model should be used to calculate the power and speed numbers.  This would even out game play.

Splendid job on the Yankee Tribute League. I appreciate that you put in pitchers stats for most of the teams (I modified a couple of the older teams to have those stats).

(Note: Yankee Tribute is mis-spelled on the opening screen -- one "e" in Yankee)

My only critique is the line-up orders for some of the teams:

Pete Rose always led off for the Reds! Rose, Griffey, Morgan, Foster, Bench, Perez, Concepcion, Geronimo. (That's my favorite team.)
Ruth batted 3rd, Gehrig 4th on the 27 Yanks...
Maris batted 3rd, Mantle 4th on the 61 Yanks...
Gilliam led off in the WS for the 55 Dodgers, while Jackie batted 7th (he's old)...
Philly of 1930: Bishop, Dykes, Cochrane, Simmons, Foxx, Miller, Haas, Boley...

I looked most of this stuff in Baseball Alamanac. Mostly World Series line-ups...

Thanks to R.B.I. Editor these are easy fixes...

Thank you, again, for all of your hard work on the Yankee Tribute ROM. I'm not even a Yank fan but I love that set!

Thanks,

Some simulations were run, best of seven series.

The matchups were:

27 Yanks vs. 30 Athlet  4-0 27 Yanks
39 Yanks vs. 93 Blue Jays 4-1 39 Yanks
61 Yanks vs. 55 Dodger 4-1 61 Yanks
77 Yanks vs. 76 Reds 4-0 77 Yanks
00 Yanks vs. 04 Red Sox 4-3 00 Yanks

The Yanks won every single series!
All of the non-Yankee teams are eliminated from competition.
Now the remaining Yanks teams will play a round robin tourney.

In round robin play between the remaining 5 Yankees teams here are the standings;

00 Yanks 4-0
61 Yanks 3-2
39 Yanks 2-3
77 Yanks 1-3
27 Yanks 1-3

The top two teams, the 00 Yanks and the 61 Yanks played a 7 game series to determine who was the best team.

00 Yanks 4, 61 Yanks 3

DiMaggio's hit streak was reached in 1941 -- the same year "Teddy Ballgame" Williams was the last major leaguer to hit .400 (.406)...

Once again, great set of teams in the Yanks Tribute League...

Revision of analysis:

39 Yankees
Hofers:  Dimaggio, Dickey
Strengths:
Dimaggio 56 game hitting streak in 39 is one of the most amazing feats in baseball history.
Every player in the starting lineup of the team has at least 10 HRs
Weaknesses:
Pitching
Lots of warning track power