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Title: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Polish Rifle on 12/13/07, 12:50:37 PM
I didn't do this cause I was bored.  I did it cause I care... 

Here are the top 50 batters ranked in order.  This is purely based on ratings, power being the most important, contact and speed being secondary.  Feel free to pick it apart boys:

RBI Top 50 Batters

   Andre Dawson
   Jose Canseco
   Darrell Evans
   Reggie Jackson
   Mark McGwire
   George Bell
   Don Baylor
   Darryl Strawberry
   Eric Davis
   Dale Murphy
   Tony Armas
        Tom Brunansky
   Kirk Gibson
   Tim Burks
   Jim Rice
   Ken Hrbek
   Gary Gaetti
   Tom Brookens
   Mike Schmidt
   Jack Clark
   Will Clark
   Ruppert Jones
   Dwight Evans
   Doug DeCinces
   Chet Lemon
   Candy Maldonado
   Gary Carter
   Chili Davis
   Dave Henderson
   Tim Laudner
   Wally Joyner
   Jeff Leonard
   Brian Downing
   Glenn Davis
   Tim Raines
   Don Mattingly
   Cal Ripken
   Rich Gedman
   Dick Schofield
   Jim Lindeman
   Matt Nokes
   Pedro Guerrero
   Bill Madlock
   Keith Hernandez
   Kevin Mitchell
   George Hendrick
        Alan Trammell
   George Brett
   Lou Whitaker
   Pat Sheridan
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/13/07, 01:02:45 PM
Pretty neat idea.  I'd like to see it taken a step further and have all players ranked...
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: TbT on 12/13/07, 01:24:10 PM
nice list.  id like to see this list further contorted to rate them on other factors.  Strawbery ranks high, but on NY you can get away with walking him frequently.  he can be nullified a decent amount of the time that way, and more often than not it wont come back to bite you in the ass.

Same with chili davis...walk that fucker when possible.  Or does that make them more valuable.  Jack clark sees hittable pitches about 2 out of 10 at bats when i play.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: JoeDirt on 12/13/07, 01:33:15 PM
I'm surprised to see how low the following players are ranked (to each his own, however):

Mattingly
Raines
Guerrero
Trammell

Also, to imply that GDavis is better than these four players is quite peculiar...
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/13/07, 01:41:25 PM
How about the top 120?
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Polish Rifle on 12/13/07, 02:42:53 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/13/07, 01:02:45 PM
Pretty neat idea.  I'd like to see it taken a step further and have all players ranked...


Well they are ranked from 1 to 50.

I was surprised by how high Gary Gaetti.  Chilli Davis got bumped down a few sports due to his 24 in contact.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Attezz on 12/13/07, 02:44:18 PM
Hey Polish, want to do a fantasy rbi league?

(is this rude? I just figured that USC is ridiculously busy right now and it wouldn't be bad to restart the American RBI League)
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Polish Rifle on 12/13/07, 02:45:39 PM
How does it work?  Link me
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: BeefMaster on 12/13/07, 03:20:55 PM
Quote from: Polish Rifle on 12/13/07, 02:45:39 PM
How does it work?  Link me

Basically, it's fantasy baseball, except using the players in RBI.  You stage a fantasy draft, then put together the resulting teams in a custom ROM and have them play each other in "Watch Game" mode.

Here (http://fantasyrbi.rbicentral.com/) is the website fightonusc put together for previous leagues.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: AlecTrevylan006 on 12/13/07, 05:20:15 PM
If Polish doesn't want in, I'll take his spot.

And if he does want in, I'll kill him and take his spot.

>_>
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Darky on 12/13/07, 08:25:19 PM
The Empire is in.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Darky on 12/13/07, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: Attezzobal on 12/13/07, 02:44:18 PM
Hey Polish, want to do a fantasy rbi league?

(is this rude? I just figured that USC is ridiculously busy right now and it wouldn't be bad to restart the American RBI League)

I think you should run the league this year Attez. Fighton needs a season break or whatever. Plus last fantasy season took over one calendar year. Sorry fighton, but that is just too painfully long. He just had a kid and appears to not have the time to invest in a faster paced fantasy season.

I think we should contact him via pm or just start a thread to introduce the measure. It is not technically his league since he is not the founder. GDavis and Shitpaw should decide on a new commissioner. They are the founders. Search is your friend.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Attezz on 12/13/07, 08:54:15 PM
If I were to run the league, there should be no doubt in anyone's mind that I would allow rampant cheating.

If there's enough interest, why not have two divisions, one with Alec running it and the other with Polish running it?
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Darky on 12/13/07, 09:08:20 PM
Two division.....sounds good. Who ever runs the next season, needs to run it properly and consistently. It is a FUCKIN serious matter. A vote should be held with or without fighton's approval.
Huge intervals of no play between games and weeks really drained the season. Nothing personal to fighton, but that league just took to long. Clearly unacceptable imo. Fighton did a great job when his heart was in it, but after  week 5 or 6, there was no enthusiasm or creativity behind his recaps (if there were any). Plus he was extremely biased in his recaps.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: TβG on 12/13/07, 09:53:46 PM
first of all:  no one should ever say anything bad about fighton, or i will personally dislocate your feet. 

he did a great job for three seasons and does everything for free and for the love of the game.  the last season took longer because we increased the number of games and tried to be more inclusive.  don't ever complain about anything he did in running a league in service of the rest of us huge rbi fans.  he's the gantry of fantasy drafts/seasons that would drive anyone else crazy.  he only get's about 5% percent of the credit he deserves in his efforts.

since the oc was very dis-satisfied with our finish this past season and with our ill-conceived leadership structure, i'm very anxious to get back to my team's dominance and winning ways.  i'd love to be involved in another league.  i just got done handicapping another draft list this past monday.

my biggest suggestion is that if we get solid dedication from our longer-term posters here, we should have a keeper league.  in my opinion there are 7 "franchise" players that dominate the league and arguably we could identify a total of 10 either before or after the draft agreeing between owners to "franchise tag" the players (one per team).  this would make a real ownership more valuable, and in my opinion, more interesting. and we could make it go from season to season in the longer term to creast momentum on teams/dynasties.

my other idea is more involved:  to give rank values to players and actually have a budget so you can build a team according to spending "points" and balancing rosters that way.  too make it even more interesting, we could even have owners draw different amounts of salary to create more imbalance and more interest in each teams budget to create challenges in the draft.  ....just a few ideas.

anyway, i'd love to have a team if someone is willing to dedicate the many hours needed to run a league.  there's definitely a lot of us here who would be thankful for that.  and maybe we should show fighton a little more love for doing what he did and raising the bar for our rbi fantasy leagues the past few years.  thanks fighton!
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Attezz on 12/13/07, 10:03:14 PM
I had a fantastic time in the league last season, especially after I took full control of the team.

What about a mix between all that? A two tiered system, 10 teams in each league, with relegation/promotion? Figure out some way that the more posts you have, the higher the league you start in (maybe this could be focused on posts on the RBI board?).

I envision something like the bottom two teams in the top league are relagated to league two, the top two teams in league 2 are promoted to league one, and the 3/4th place teams in league two play a series each against the 6/7th place teams in league one to determine status for the following season.

I realize that would probably make the idea of a keeper league a tad more complicated, but you could say that the higher ranked team gets their choice (say for instance, you have Gooden and stay in league one, and the top team in league two also has Gooden, you keep Gooden and the top team in league two either gets a better draft pick or can keep a different player)

I know all that sounds needlessly complicated, but I'm sure it could be explained better, and it allows 20 teams to be involved, and I guarantee it would be pretty easy once all the details are sorted out.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: TβG on 12/13/07, 10:16:02 PM
honestly, i don't think that more than 10 people would be dedicated and have enough interest.  i'm not sure we necessarily need two leagues.  i could be wrong, though.

i'd be happy to share my insights and roster management style with someone, i shared a little with bdawk this past year.  but next time around it would be more like an intersnhip for the other person involved with me.  all decisions and ideas would have to be run through me.  with that said, i'd be happy to have someone else on board the oc this year.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: fightonusc on 12/14/07, 01:01:26 AM
I'd be more than happy to be involved as a player and not a participant for a season.

And TBG...  :love:
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: ryno on 12/14/07, 07:40:46 AM
Quote from: The Dark Side on 12/13/07, 08:25:19 PM
The Empire is in.


The Rebellion is going to kick your pansy ass.

Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Darky on 12/14/07, 08:19:27 AM
All I am suggesting is that we vote on a new commissioner. Fighton can be an owner and have his own team...that way he does not have to be responsible for so much. He did a great job and I toally appreciate it, but I get the feeling that being a commissioner carries a lot of pressure. People get burnt out. I just think we need some new blood in the commissioner's seat.

Nothing changes. The Fantasy season should remain the same. Draft, season, recaps, playoffs, but more fast paced. Just a change in who is running the show.

TBG, your suggestion makes stuff too complicated.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: BeefMaster on 12/14/07, 09:00:00 AM
I'd be willing to join in again, but I'd rather let the new guys have a spot, so for now, consider me an alternate if you don't have enough players.

I don't have the time/dedication to be commissioner, but I can probably help out occasionally with simulations, recaps, etc., if y'all would like me to.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/14/07, 10:52:08 AM
I can't do stats again, new regime at work has killed that possiblity.  But I'm in to play.  I'm against keepers unless we start from scratch and decide it will be X # of keepers going forward.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Attezz on 12/14/07, 11:03:56 AM
So let's start speculating on who would want a team and would probably keep in touch with it.

Attezz
Ult
Beef
Darkside
McLane
Gantry
Ryno
Nomaaa
Polish
Alex
USC
TBG
Bdawk
GDavis
Nacho
Shooty
BIG HATH
Gerlost
TBT?

I'm sure I'm missing a couple, but I'm confident we could get 20 owners who would keep up, and keep my dream alive of turning RBI into a European style soccer league...
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: TempoGL on 12/14/07, 01:51:52 PM
i always get big hath'd on these fantasy leagues...they seem to fill up within about 2 hours.

i'd like to get a team
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: GDavis on 12/14/07, 03:39:15 PM
I'll be retiring as undisputed champion.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: ryno on 12/15/07, 05:12:29 PM
you shouldn't let ryno in.  that bastard will delete his account mid season.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: nomaaa on 12/15/07, 06:43:49 PM
attezz, i was right about to pm you.

good deal. you know i'm in.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: TbT on 12/17/07, 11:13:14 PM
Eh, im in if need be.  The internets on my phone makes drafting easier.    How bout we have Bastardo run the league as commish?

not sure what to make of a 20 team league, but the keepers seem intriguing.  A long time ago i had an idea to create a fantasy league and each player had a randomly designated amount of years he could be signed for.  Player A-4 years/Player B-3 years/Player C-2 years...etc etc.  all random.  Lets add some serious strategy to this draft/league. 
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: nomaaa on 12/18/07, 10:25:31 PM
i don't know why anyone was surprised bastardo just packed and left like that.

like father like son.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Attezz on 12/18/07, 10:43:16 PM
Maybe he couldn't handle the pressure of being mentioned in a Simpsons episode.
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Big Hath on 12/20/07, 06:05:51 PM
Quote from: Strassy on 12/14/07, 01:51:52 PM
i always get big hath'd on these fantasy leagues...they seem to fill up within about 2 hours.

i'd like to get a team

yes, I have now become a verb!
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Stock on 01/26/08, 10:59:55 AM
That's a pretty decent top 50 list.
I put this little file together a couple of years ago.
It ranks all RBI batters based on some of your inputs.
The file starts with Power as a baseline.
Directions:
1.  Rank cells R12 - R14 on a scale from 0 to 10 on how important you feel Contact, Speed, and Hand is.
2.  Click the "Paste" button.
3.  Click the "Sort" button.

You will have an ordered list of all batters on the original RBI ROM.



Quote from: Todd Blythe Time on 12/13/07, 01:24:10 PM
nice list.  id like to see this list further contorted to rate them on other factors.  Strawbery ranks high, but on NY you can get away with walking him frequently.  he can be nullified a decent amount of the time that way, and more often than not it wont come back to bite you in the ass.

Same with chili davis...walk that fucker when possible.  Or does that make them more valuable.  Jack clark sees hittable pitches about 2 out of 10 at bats when i play.

This is an outstanding idea!!
I could use my attached file as a baseline for rankings, but then weight X% to the batters that bat immediately after them (an maybe even (X-c)% to two batters after).
I should also have some sort of a bonus for pinch hitters (ie.. maybe assuming that 20-25% of their ABs getting the pinch hit bonus).
This could be fun, but an up to the challenge!!
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: The Express on 01/30/08, 04:20:29 PM
been there done that:

http://www.callmefairf.com/nes/rbi/RBI_Draft_Sheets_MYRANKINGS.xls
Title: Re: Top 50 Batters in RBI
Post by: Briznock on 01/31/08, 10:48:23 AM
I wouldn't mind trying my hand in some Fantasy RBI....