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Title: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Brookensrules! on 01/29/09, 09:19:17 AM
This just in:  Will Clark named as "special assistant" to the Giants. What the heck does that mean?  I want a job with that title.  I would also want to read the duties and responsibilties for such a position. 
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: nomaaa on 01/29/09, 11:09:24 AM
he was also just named one of the "only two names you need to know" in rbi
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: broiler on 01/29/09, 02:49:22 PM
the trill?
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/29/09, 02:50:37 PM
He was a gifted flute player.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Gantry on 01/29/09, 04:40:54 PM
Flautist is the proper term, you moran.  Get some brains...
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: broiler on 01/29/09, 04:57:58 PM
gantrys all wrong, a flautist is one who makes taquitos
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Reds on 01/29/09, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: broiler on 01/29/09, 04:57:58 PM
gantrys all wrong, a flautist is one who makes taquitos

I always wondered...
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: japetus462 on 01/30/09, 01:26:26 PM
Will Clark went out on top...

.345/.426/.655 12 HR 45 RBI in 51 games for the Cards in 2000.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Shooty on 01/30/09, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: japetus462 on 01/30/09, 01:26:26 PM
Will Clark went out on top...

.345/.426/.655 12 HR 45 RBI in 51 games for the Cards in 2000.

And he hit over 300 in the few seasons leading up to that as well.

Why did he retire so early?
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Attezz on 01/30/09, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 01/30/09, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: japetus462 on 01/30/09, 01:26:26 PM
Will Clark went out on top...

.345/.426/.655 12 HR 45 RBI in 51 games for the Cards in 2000.

And he hit over 300 in the few seasons leading up to that as well.

Why did he retire so early?

Steroids.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: fknmclane on 01/30/09, 03:18:05 PM
Too many darkies.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: broiler on 01/30/09, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/30/09, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: Shooty on 01/30/09, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: japetus462 on 01/30/09, 01:26:26 PM
Will Clark went out on top...

.345/.426/.655 12 HR 45 RBI in 51 games for the Cards in 2000.

And he hit over 300 in the few seasons leading up to that as well.

Why did he retire so early?

Steroids.

how dare you
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: ryno on 01/30/09, 06:32:54 PM
I think he should have gotten more HoF consideration.

An .880 OPS is nothing to sneeze at and he's completely off the damned ballot.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: japetus462 on 01/31/09, 04:07:31 AM
He was a great 1B in an era of other great 1B.... A lot of people argue for Don Mattingly being in the HOF. VERY similar numbers between the two....



http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clarkwi02.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mattido01.shtml



and i'll throw in a Wild Card...

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/galaran01.shtml
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: TβG on 01/31/09, 09:40:28 AM
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good, but not great.  will didn't play long enough to get into the hall, he never really did anything production-wise to stand out.  never an mvp, never led the league in anything of consequence.  i guess he was somewhat stuck between eras where he didn't play enough of the 80's and didn't really stand out with the roiders of the 90's.  mo vaughn was more of an impact player than clark, and mo shouldn't be in the hall either.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: bonny on 01/31/09, 10:13:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUkTfbOEKTs
after winning the west in '87

think I hear an f bomb

Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: ryno on 01/31/09, 12:08:36 PM
Clark won a batting title, finished near the top in homers a couple of times, lead the league in runs, RBI, runs created (all in different seasons, of couse).


Who was a better 1B during his time?


He should have gotten more consideration for his middle name.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: bonny on 01/31/09, 12:19:00 PM
Quote from: ryno on 01/31/09, 12:08:36 PM
Who was a better 1B during his time?


Thomas
McGwire
Delgado
Thome
Bagwell
Giambi
Mo Vaughn
McGriff
Olerud
Palmeiro

to name a few

Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: TβG on 01/31/09, 12:30:55 PM
batting title?  do you mean silver slugger?  he never the led the league in average.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: TβG on 01/31/09, 12:33:14 PM
will clark = mark grace

good, certainly memorable to their respective frachises.... but not HOF material.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: ryno on 01/31/09, 01:38:53 PM
He was shit tons better than Grace.

He played in an odd period.  That late 80s / early 90s era was bad for stats --- 23 homers put him in the top 10 one year.   The mid 90s and on is heralded as the steroid era.

He's good enough to get some votes, but not good enough for induction.  I never said he was hall worthy --- just should have gotten more consideraton.


I thought he won the batting title in '89 with that .333 average.   I guess not too many people won a batting title during those years other than Tony Gwynn.

Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: BDawk on 02/02/09, 05:19:51 AM
Nope...not hall of fame at all. No argument.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Brookensrules! on 02/02/09, 07:15:50 AM
shit tons better than Grace?  I'll give you that he was better than Grace but not by a shit ton.  However if Clark is HOF than so is Grace.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: TβG on 02/03/09, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: Brookensrules! on 02/02/09, 07:15:50 AM
shit tons better than Grace?  I'll give you that he was better than Grace but not by a shit ton.  However if Clark is HOF than so is Grace.

that's why they're both not.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Metal King on 02/04/09, 05:55:51 PM
It's hard to choose who was better. Clark had the much better power numbers, Grace was well, graceful, hitting for average and getting a shitload of doubles, I don't think he got to 500 either, I know Clark didn't. Maybe he did....

The both retired too early, killing their HOF chances, they could've gone a couple more seasons with solid production.

Grace never had 100 rbi in a season or hit 20 homers, neither guy stole much, I'd say Clark is better by a LITTLE.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: Attezz on 02/04/09, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Metal King on 02/04/09, 05:55:51 PM
I'd say Clark is better by a LITTLE.

I'd say he's better by a lot
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: ryno on 02/04/09, 09:30:42 PM
Christalmightyinafuckinghandbag!  I'm the biggest Cub homer in the entire universe, but I know Mark Grace couldn't hold Clark's jock.

Grace was a good hitting second baseman trapped inside a first baseman's body.

Clark was a legit power threat / run producer with a good glove.  He is also cajun, which is nice.
Title: Re: Will "the trill" Clark
Post by: broiler on 02/05/09, 11:41:16 AM
it seemed like will clark hit a homer every time i went to the stick