I have the batters done, so I'm posting it here for people to mess around with. I'm working on the pitchers (or any errors in batting). When I have a chance, I'll write some code to dump the rosters into a text file, but for now, you'll have to play it to see them...
This is still just a beta, but I figured I've been blabbing about this for a while, I might as well show some progress.
good work overall. please continue your monumental effort!
just in a brief play, i don't have much in terms of playability. i do have a couple roster issues (don't know if you might be handling that later:
in my opinion, the angels lineup should look like this as it stands today (imo):
1 Aybar SS
2 Abreu RF
3 Hunter CF
4 HMtsui DH (Napoli)
5 Morales 1B
6 Mtthws LF (JRivra)
7 Kendrk 2B
8 Mathis C
9 Woods 3B (MIztrs)
bench:
JRivra
MIztrs
Napoli
Willts
pitchers:
JaWvr
Sundrs
Shilds
Fuents
I believe that's pretty much the depth chart as it stands today. Seattle Note: Figgins is with Seattle now and figures to bat 1st or 2nd there. I would list "Ichiro" as such in the game and not Suzuki. Vladi won't be on the Angels this year and I would assume that they trade Rivera or Matthews before the season starts (preferably Matthews--big contract).
The team depth charts are somewhat useful, although they're not always up to date or accurate. For example, I believe that angels played mathis more than napoli down the stretch last year and I KNOW that ervin santana is not the ace going into spring training. He was barely used out of the bullpen in the playoffs. Also, it says it was updated today and they don't list Matsui yet.)
http://losangeles.angels.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=ana
Thanks for the feedback. I am going to fix rosters later after some of these trades are updated and I get the pitchers rated. I use rototimes which seems to be one of the sites that actually had updated, as I saw really recent transactions being reflected there. I'll use your angels recommendations when I redo them. They are much appreciated.
I do plan on relying on team specific feedback from the fans, as I can do my best guess, but since I can't really follow all 30 teams on a super detailed level, some of the non-marquee players are simply a guess, or a straight pull from a website, which as you said can be flaky.
Also, for bench starters, I took the guys not in the frequent rotation and let them in ordered by number of HR.
I'd also like to reiterate that rating pitchers is a fucking bitch.
Wow, that Angels batting line up really sucks...good luck facing Cliff Lee this year...
I think it's pointless right now to try and keep up with all the moves going on right now...perhaps I'll wait a bit on the pitchers...
If we have any volunteers when things settle down, I could use a guru to help me come up with the starting lineups for the rotation...
I'm rating the game with
SP1, SP2, Relief, Closer
If anyone is interested, let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to look at ERA/K9 and guess...
Twins: Baker, Slowey, Neshek (you could use Rauch if you don't like that Neshek sat out all last year, but Neshek was their 8th inning guy in '07-'08 and would be a sidearmer, which is always cool), Nathan.
I will try and come up with some decent ratings, but I also am not wonderful at pitcher ratings.
No need to come up with ratings, I'll take care of that. I am just needing some lineups...
I'll take care of NYY for ya.
sweet...any help is appreciated...
You know...here's a thought...over at Knobbe (the tecmo community) we had a community editor that would allow everyone who had been given access to go in and change ratings. It was a community effort to come up with one really good ROM that would be the Knobbe official ROM. Would anyone be interested in something like that here for RBI?
I think for it to work it'd require us to all be on the same page as far as a baseline for ratings, and it would only work if people could keep disputes to a minimum. Hell, I could even put in a lock feature where if it gets out of hand, I could just lock the ratings and only myself (or someone else) would be able to edit them.
I'd be willing to write something up. This way, we could have a nice ROM that is a living thing, meaning as soon as an update came through, we could change it and people would be able to download a new version anytime it changes.
What do you guys think?
1 Jeter
2 Granderson
3 Arod
4 Teixeira
5 Posada
6 Cano
7 Swisher
8 Cabrera
SP Sabathia
SP Burnett
RP Rivera
RP Hughes (or Chamberlain)
8)i am just glad someone is doing this.wonder if it will fit on a cart?
It will fit on a cart. Hopefully we get a nice team of volunteers. It will go quicker that way.
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/21/09, 12:17:31 PM
1 Jeter
2 Granderson
3 Arod
4 Teixeira
5 Posada
6 Cano
7 Swisher
8 Cabrera
SP Sabathia
SP Burnett
RP Rivera
RP Hughes (or Chamberlain)
Oops...forgot Bench:
Johnson
Cabrera
Gardner
R Pena
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/21/09, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/21/09, 12:17:31 PM
1 Jeter
2 Granderson
3 Arod
4 Teixeira
5 Posada
6 Cano
7 Swisher
8 Cabrera
SP Sabathia
SP Burnett
RP Rivera
RP Hughes (or Chamberlain)
Oops...forgot Bench:
Johnson
Cabrera
Gardner
R Pena
You might want to update that one
I'm working on a community thing like I said, so you'll be able to edit it youself for the greater good :)
are we doing lineups with a DH or not? I had a DH in my angels line-up.
Well, I rate my roms to basically have the top 8 with the next 4 guys with the highest HR filling in the bench. If we did a community ROM I'd be open to discussion. Soon as I finish it (hopefully by holidays end) we can see who's interested and just get an email session going to talk about some stuff. I have a pretty good set of formulas for batting that works out to be good and consistent across the board.
The pitchers ratings are a whole new set of monsters. In summary, let's chat about it soon...
i will help once spring training gets here.get one of those baseball magazines.
Excellent...it'll be a constantly living thing, so you can hop in and help closer to Spring, or you can help now. Doesn't matter...I just think this is a nice service to do for the community and having a few volunteers might make it an even better ROM...
You may be vastly overestimating just how lazy dee-nee is compared to Knobbe.
Haha, well, if that's the case, then I'll have myself an editor that I can use from anywhere instead of having to swap around an excel file wherever I go.
Still, even if I get a few people, it's better than doing it all by myself.
Please keep up the great work tecmoturd...
Quote from: Attezz on 12/22/09, 08:06:56 PM
You may be vastly overestimating just how lazy dee-nee is compared to Knobbe.
Lazy is one part but quite frankly I have a feeling most of us "regulars" who came here because of RBI simply don't play it anymore. It's sad as hell I know but it's the truth - heck some folks probably only play when touraments come up. The only time I can remember playing this year was at Dee-Nee fest.
This pisses me off now that I think about it, time for a new thread...
I blame Octo for me not playing anymore.
That's too bad that interest is down. I mean, I don't have as much time as I used to, but I still enjoy this stuff as a hobby and I find time late at night to mess around with stuff when the wife and kids are sleeping. I hope at least a 30 team ROM that's always being updated might light a little spark under the game.
If not, I know my friends and I still like to play a game or two now and again, so I always have that. Either way, the result of this project should at least give someone some enjoyment, eh? Plus, I get to look at baseball stats and quench my thirst for the new season...
Quote from: TβG on 12/22/09, 04:20:59 PM
are we doing lineups with a DH or not? I had a DH in my angels line-up.
Absolutely cannot do this. RBI did not do this. We shouldn't either. Who the fuck do we think we are?
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/22/09, 11:35:59 PM
Quote from: TβG on 12/22/09, 04:20:59 PM
are we doing lineups with a DH or not? I had a DH in my angels line-up.
Absolutely cannot do this. RBI did not do this. We shouldn't either. Who the fuck do we think we are?
RBI also didn't include "also rans" on their cartridges.
I'd say no DH either...
Quote from: Attezz on 12/23/09, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: JoeDirt on 12/22/09, 11:35:59 PM
Quote from: TβG on 12/22/09, 04:20:59 PM
are we doing lineups with a DH or not? I had a DH in my angels line-up.
Absolutely cannot do this. RBI did not do this. We shouldn't either. Who the fuck do we think we are?
RBI also didn't include "also rans" on their cartridges.
What is an "also ran?"
The teams that didn't make the postseason.
before you answer, joe.... remember that the yankees didn't make it into NES rbi.
so there.
keep up the good work, tecmo.
gantry, how do you feel about contacting fryak and marquisexb about this new turn of events in the expanded rbi? they were good compilers, were they not?
I'm almost finishes with the RBI collaborator. Just gotta add some finishing touches.
The collaborator website is ready. It's rather crude, but it gets the job done nicely.
If you are interested in helping out, please hit me up and I'll create you a user account. We can discuss some rating ideas, and go about rating these BAMFs (bad ass mother fuckers). I've actually got all the ratings for the batters pretty much done. Mostly they just need to be updated to reflect trades (which reminds me, I should probably code some player trader to make it easy to swap/move players.
I also need to setup a dump page that shows all the ratings in CSV or marquisexb format...that'll have to wait.
I'd really like to use this to release an official Dee-Nee ROM, so hopefully a few of you are interested in seriously helping out with rating some players.
At the very least, a few people just entering accurate pitching lineups (and tweaking the batting lineups) will go along way.
For everyone else, you can still get to the ROM exporter by visiting htp://rbi30.sweethoss.com. This will allow you to export the current ROM as we have rated it (you'll see currently the pitchers will be set to "None" with minimal attributes.
For those who care, i'm now done with half the pitchers (for my stock ratings). I have to finish that and then pass through to make any adjustments.
it seemed like the generic pitchers in your first 30team iteration were throwing cutters.... did you see that too?
NOt really, can you elaborate? I'll have to try it again tonight to see what you mean. I busted used a base rating for the dummy pitchers
sorry for getting back so late. my play might just be anecdotal, but the computer controlled pitchers appeared to be moving the ball well late. it had a cut effect. it was actually increasing the difficulty of hitting. probably a good thing.
Ahh, I see. Nothing I did. I have thr rom in beta form. I'll release it soon to get some feedback. The ROM is done, and there wasn't much interest in collaboration, so for now, this idea is locked.