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Title: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 07:50:45 PM
So I decided to have some fun with my new 2010 ROM...none of my friends ever want to play anymore, at least not online, so I decided to have a way where we could all still play and "compete" against each other without the hassle of connecting online...our busy family lives often get in the way of meeting up online.  So, I wrote a little website that allowed me to track my progress playing a "season" against the CPU on the juiced version of my ROM.

Goal is to beat all 30 teams once with the fewest amount of losses possible, and gathering the best stats I can muster.  I've been uploading my games to the site thus far, and while fun, it shows that the juiced CPU is either really difficult, or I am just very bad.  Either way, I'm having a blast, and it's proving to be a good challenge...once my buddies start uploading their stats, we will be able to see how we stack up against each other (I'll eventually code the site to compare best seasons by team, and other criteria).

The link to my season thus far is below.  Please hold your laughter at my pitiful progress thus far...if not for Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun, I'd not even be doing this well, as those two BAMF's have bailed me out with some clutch homers a few times already...not the last game though, the Yankees fucking 10-run-ruled me.  Wow that team is stacked.

http://sports.sweethoss.com/rbi/season.php?season=1
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/17/10, 08:15:34 PM
Can you post the rom?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 08:25:44 PM
I already did in my 30 Team ROM thread. I've made a few small updates, but that ROM has most of them.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/17/10, 08:54:16 PM
Game 1: 6 hit complete game shut out for Scott Baker as Minnesota beats Arizona 2-0.

Game 2: Minnesota has a 3 run 8th (back to back from Morneau and Cuddyer) to win 4-3, complete game by Slowey.

Game 3: Lost 10-2 to Baltimore, just all around embarrassing.

Game 4: Minnesota beat Boston 8-4 thanks to a 6 run 4th, Boston got all four runs in the 8th, Slowey still went the complete game.

Game 5: 7-1 Minnesota over Cincy, Cincy is horrible, Baker had a 2 hit complete game shutout while only recording one strikeout. There was a fluke infield hit and Stubb hit a home run but that was it.

One thing I've now learned is that this is not your father's CPU defense or pitching. For some reason the pitchers seem much better.

Second thing I've learned, is that by and large it'll be easier to steal second on the CPU as the short stop almost always cuts off the throw.


Third thing I've learned. Righty pitchers really enjoy beaning left handed hitters, three hit batsman and two walks that game (Punto's now been hit 4 times in two games).

A thought I had, is there a way to make it so that a check swing isn't considered a swinging strike? (ya know, the second phase of the
swing)

Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 09:41:47 PM
Gives new life to CPU play, eh? If you want to play by the same rules as I do, there's a rules section on the site. I could also give you your own account if you want.

As for the base stealing thing, I don't usually attempt for that reason. And for the bean ball thing, only got beaned once in 18 games...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/17/10, 09:54:55 PM
Other than the batter resetting I've pretty much used those rules.

Gonna go ahead and keep trudging through though.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 09:56:32 PM
Awesome, any feedback is appreciated...good luck on your season...feel free to keep posting along as I'd like to see the results, although if you do so in this thread, might be wise to keep updating your same thread or start a new thread...otherwise this one could get clogged up with that...

Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 09:59:23 PM
Also getting some 2P feedback would be nifty...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 10:23:46 PM
The check swing pisses me off too...I don't know how to make it not count...for now I just consider it another way to give the game a challenge...

I rated the pitchers very close to the original following 40, 40, 15, 15 as a basic guide, modifying it slightly for pitchers who pitch longer innings...some of the good closers also have a few more stamina points so that you can use their speed a little more without worrying about tiring them out...

I did give the SPs a tad higher than a 40 scale rating so that they might last longer into the game, usually around the 6th inning...it remains to be seen if they have too much stamina...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: JoeDirt on 01/17/10, 10:29:37 PM
Just played NYY vs LD...fun game.  CC had a perfect game going into the 8th...then I brought AJ in to face Manny.  No problem.  Then Looney hit one off of the end of the bat, perfectly in between ss and 3b.  Well placed, Looney.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/17/10, 10:44:25 PM
You know what Attez, don't worry about updating your original post, that's lame. Just post away, that's what the board is for...otherwise I might miss it cause it won't say it's "new"

Anyways, I just had a great game vs. the Phillies. They are a fucking beast of a lineup, along with Halladay as their pitcher...pretty brutal.  But, Prince had 2 HRs, McGehee had another three run shot, and my offense was on par...Randy Wolf even pitched well enough to get past their big hitters (save for giving up 3 HRs).  Wolf loses me a lot of games but he won me a few clutch ones this season already...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 06:38:46 PM
Game 6: Minnesota 3, Cubs 0, complete game 2 hitter (0 strikeouts) by Slowey.

I'm curious how the average hitter ratings compare to the original, because it really seems as though (with a few exceptions), the CPU can't hit for shit.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 06:41:23 PM
Here's a screen shot with my up to date games, I'm gonna give it a break for now so I figured I'd post it for prosperity
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/18/10, 08:37:04 PM
Hitters follow a similar pattern taken from the original. I haven't had a problem with them hitting for shit. Only thing I can think of is possibly lowering contact globally. Thus far for me it's been spot on. 
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 10:28:57 PM
Game 7: Minnesota wins 3-0 over the White Sox, Baker has a 4 hit complete game shut out (I've yet to use a reliever).

A few things.

The White Sox uniforms hurt my eyes. I think the abbreviation for Prznsk is off. How about "Dchbg" instead?

Also, I haven't played in a long time, but, I feel like the throwing of the human controlled defense is also juiced, the quick throws seem insanely strong for some reason.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/18/10, 10:37:57 PM
Game 7: Minnesota wins 3-0 over the White Sox, Baker has a 4 hit complete game shut out (I've yet to use a reliever).
I am not sure what to do about this other than to lower stamina...can you give me some feedback on what your pitching repertoire looks like?  I mean, I've taken my pitchers late into the game before, but I do see them begin to tire...Baker and Slowey are 40 and 42 stamina respectively, which is about dead on average for an SP in the 1987 ROM...did you pitch full games in the original ROM?   Do you throw any junk whatsoever? Are you only using Slowey or Baker, but not both in a single game?  Any feedback is appreciated...

The White Sox uniforms hurt my eyes. I think the abbreviation for Prznsk is off. How about "Dchbg" instead?
We could soften the uniforms by making the secondary color gray instead of white, although I thought it looked kind of cool with the White.

Also, I haven't played in a long time, but, I feel like the throwing of the human controlled defense is also juiced, the quick throws seem insanely strong for some reason.
The human throw is not juiced, unless my buddy snuck that in without telling me.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 10:48:58 PM
Game 8: Twins win 4-2 over the Indians (I don't understand their color scheme), Slowey goes a complete game, again no strike outs, but does give up 7 hits and the Twins come back after being down 2-0 after the 1st.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/18/10, 10:37:57 PM
Game 7: Minnesota wins 3-0 over the White Sox, Baker has a 4 hit complete game shut out (I've yet to use a reliever).
I am not sure what to do about this other than to lower stamina...can you give me some feedback on what your pitching repertoire looks like?  I mean, I've taken my pitchers late into the game before, but I do see them begin to tire...Baker and Slowey are 40 and 42 stamina respectively, which is about dead on average for an SP in the 1987 ROM...did you pitch full games in the original ROM?   Do you throw any junk whatsoever? Are you only using Slowey or Baker, but not both in a single game?  Any feedback is appreciated...

Basically I pitch to bad contact, inside and outside and that's it. I never use fast or slow balls and typically don't have to throw more than two pitches to a batter.

Either way though, I'm really liking this rom, this is some excellent work you've done.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/18/10, 10:52:59 PM
Thanks much man, I appreciate it.  As for the Indians, I don't like their color scheme either, but there were so many god damned blue/white/gray teams that I had to make some sacrifices, and to get blue into their uniform, that's what I had to use...any suggestions would be welcome...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/18/10, 11:18:06 PM
You should see the Met's uniforms, btw.  Technically though, I could make them black jersey with blue hat...that works nicely...I might change it back to that...that's how I had it...

Ok, I changed the Mets to a nicer scheme, couldn't come up with one for the Indians, so that's gonna stay for now, and I replaced Torres with Thornton.  These will be posted with my next release...keep the feedback coming...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/18/10, 11:19:01 PM
Done with the games for the night, but will likely get quite a few in tomorrow evening.

Can't wait to see the Mets uniforms, although I do find it fitting that the White Sox uniforms are absolutely hideous.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/18/10, 11:20:07 PM
Heh...if only I could find a way to get the Chicago Fibs uniforms fugly.  Unfortunately, the artist in me can't do it...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: TempoGL on 01/18/10, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/18/10, 11:20:07 PM
Heh...if only I could find a way to get the Chicago Fibs uniforms fugly.  Unfortunately, the artist in me can't do it...

bright red uniforms with sky blue hat/belt should do it...

and attabobble is still salty that the twins don't have AJ anymore
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 06:05:26 PM
Game 9: Minnesota 5, Colorado 4
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 06:24:19 PM
Game 10: Slowey no hits Detroit, Mauer gets beaned his first three times up than hits an opposite field two run homer in the 8th, Twins win 5-0
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 07:03:23 PM
Game 11: Minnesota beats Florida 4-3, Perkins goes a complete game.

From here on I'm going to only use one reliever every game.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 07:17:39 PM
Wow, I don't know how you're doing the complete games...I pitch the corners all the time, my guy def. gets tired...are you able to do that on the original ROM?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 07:19:44 PM
I guess, it's been a while, I'll try recording my next game.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 07:47:28 PM
Game 12: 7-2 Twins win, Baker gets the complete game, Pence hit a solo shot in the 7th and Berkman got one in the 9th.

Hopefully the attachment works, it's the movie and the rom it was played on.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 08:01:24 PM
I'll take a look at it...

I'm debating on whether or not to add some batting stats for some of the better pitchers...here are the ones I'm thinking need a bit of an increase above the 640 standard...

Zambrano
Josh Johnson
Owings
Gallardo
Wainright
Sabathia
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 08:07:56 PM
That'd be pretty sweet.

It may not be the worst idea to increase the CPU batter ratings on the juiced version as well.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 08:10:06 PM
Ok...any other pitchers that need a hitting boost that you think of, let me know...

As for juicing the pitcher batting values, I'll leave that out of the base ROM and let people who want to use my exporter to juice the batting as desired.  I don't want to mess with customizing it too much for the public release of the ROM...people can still tweak it for their own tastes though...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 08:38:13 PM
Wow, you curve it less than I do, and you don't move your pitcher...I actually just started playing that way as well...plus I noticed you take the first 2 strikes a lot...

Also noticed they didn't sub their pitcher out in the 4th, must have been that glitch where they sub him but he stayed in the game...he was throwing 25MPH by the time I had fast-forwarded to late in the  game...

I'd say you probably do need to juice the batters for your own enjoyment...I'm doing just fine a 12-13 right now with them at normal level :)
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 09:16:21 PM
If you ever want to play online (not tonight), let me know. But, bear in mind I'm a bit of a retard and you explaining how to set it up will be similar to explaining gravity to a 3 year old.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 09:23:06 PM
Yeah, I'd love to play online...it's simpler than you think...the biggest issue is making sure your router is setup correctly. Other than that, it's cake...

We had a league going for a while, and that was fun...I always wanted to start back up again, but it's tough to find players...someday if I get enough people I'd run one again...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 09:23:38 PM
Do you use fceu?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 09:25:17 PM
Nah, Nestopia is the de-facto online emulator for netplay these days...we run all the NES leagues using it...a year or so ago, someone developed a P2P version of Kaillera that allowed you to directly connect to each other (instead of going through a server) and it basically made the connection console quality, or damn effin' close to it.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 09:36:19 PM
Can you post the stuff I'll need?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 09:47:49 PM
Sure.  We should really be chatting on AIM...we're obviously both on at the same time :)  I'll post it right now...

Extract it to a folder on your hard drive and drop the ROM in the ROMS folder...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 09:53:21 PM
I don't have AIM.

After I do that, then what?

How do I find you on there (I guess I have time for one game tonight, if you want).
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 10:00:23 PM
Well, that's the thing, I'm used to finding people by using AIM...we could use the chat feature on the forum here...

Normally there's a host and a cllient, the host gives the client his IP address and then you connect...I'll head into the chat area...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 10:48:44 PM
Played an online game with Attez tonight, tight match most of the way...but then someone on my team jacked a 2-run shot.  I say someone because it was at the bottom of the my order and I was so shocked it wasn't Braun or Fielder that I forgot to look!  Man, felt great to play vs. a human...

Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/19/10, 10:49:13 PM
Pretty sure it was Zaun.

Fucking Gregg Zaun.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/19/10, 11:02:33 PM
I think you're right...

No Name   R/L   Avg  HR Cnt Power Speed
=======================================
07 Zaun   LHB  .260   8  22   758   120

It's rare, but he's done it for me in my season before too...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/19/10, 07:03:23 PM
Game 11: Minnesota beats Florida 4-3, Perkins goes a complete game.

From here on I'm going to only use one reliever every game.

Why is Perkins on the Twins' pitching staff?  You mentioned Baker and Slowey in other posts - did Perkins get put in the bullpen?  I'd think Rauch, Neshek, and Mijares would all rank ahead of Perkins for the setup slot.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 10:32:59 AM
Baker and slowey are the two SP's. The #3 guy I always put in the official LR guy, and the #4 guy is the closer. I'd say the most gray area would the #3 spot. They aren't necessarily always their best pitchers. Of course it's all up for debate, and I'd be glad to hear any justification people have for roster changes.   
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 10:39:23 AM
Also, after seeing the way Attez pitches, I can see why his pitchers are going full games. It's because he never takes them out. By the end of his game the guy is throwing really slow. Think about it. He took Perkins, a 20 stamina pitcher  through a full game. He said he averages 2 pitches a batter. That means he's getting 3-4 innings of non tired pitching out of him.

I do thinke he subbed him out in the 7th in our game though, and he started Baker, so
that sounds about right.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/20/10, 10:57:25 AM
I'll use more than one pitcher if it's close and I'm playing against a human, but against the computer it's cheating.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 11:14:02 AM
I don't think it's cheating to use more than one pitcher, just as long as it's only one starting pitcher. I struggle enough the way it is, if I had to take my sp through a complete game every time, I'd win a lot less. Try that vs. the Yankees! They kicked my ass.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/20/10, 10:32:59 AM
Baker and slowey are the two SP's. The #3 guy I always put in the official LR guy, and the #4 guy is the closer. I'd say the most gray area would the #3 spot. They aren't necessarily always their best pitchers. Of course it's all up for debate, and I'd be glad to hear any justification people have for roster changes.   

If you're giving the #3 guy 15 stamina most of the time, you might want to go with the setup man instead of the long reliever - the long reliever's usually a mop-up man, probably the team's emergency starter, and one of the last guys out of the 'pen in a close, low-scoring game (Perkins wasn't even on the Twins' active roster during the pennant race last year).  I could see using the long reliever if you want to give the guy extra stamina (since that'd be a more realistic use of the long reliever), but otherwise, the best players would probably be represented if you used the setup man instead of the long man.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 12:11:55 PM
I see your point, and after looking at my ratings, I realized I gave the long reliever 20.  

It went like this:

SP 1 & 2: Stamina rating based on actual IP/G and a pitch count per RBI inning value I decided upon
RP1: 20
RP2: 15 (or if the guy was a really good closer, maybe a few extra points of stamina to let you utilize a fastball or sinker

Stamina is something I went back and forth on for a long time, and settled on the method above.  If I gave the RP2 any more stamina, I'd have to lower the stamina of the SP1/2 across the board, as I wanted to make stamina preservation part of the strategy.

I could give the LR guy one extra inning of pitches and take an inning away from the SPs...or actually take away from the CLS...

I figured an average game would have the SP go 6 innings, the LR go 2, and the CLS go 1, although with a 15 stamina, the CLS is probably gonna go longer than 1 inning...perhaps a 40,40,25,10 baseline setup? And, if that's still too much overall stamina, I could knock the SP's down an inning's worth of pitches...care to weigh in on that?

Keep in mind, the original was on average a 40,40,15,15 stamina setup...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 12:29:49 PM
I guess the question is, what baselines would people prefer:

Scenario 1:
SP: 35
RP1: 25 (long relief)
RP2: 10 (closer)

Scenario 2:
SP: 40 (or 35?)
RP1: 20 (setup)
RP2: 10 - 15 (closer)

Remember, these are just baselines, I the SPs would for sure be tweaked on an IP/G basis...

Perhaps an even better question, just strictly going off of personnel preference, would you rather see the LR guy or the SU guy in the lineup.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 01:20:19 PM
I'd vote for the 40-40-15-15 SP-SP-SU-CL setup, mainly to get the setup men into the game over the long relievers.  It would be an interesting change to RBI strategy, though, to have a higher-stamina setup man in there.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 02:13:56 PM
That means I gotta get to rating 30 new pitchers :)  That won't be hard though...it'll probably be more difficult to choose which setup man to pick for some teams...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 03:08:36 PM
I'm not deeply vested in this, so don't go messing things up too thoroughly just on my account.  If you (or others) want to leave it as it is, I'm not going to delete the ROM and burn your house down or anything.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/20/10, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 03:08:36 PM
If you (or others) want to leave it as it is, I'm not going to delete the ROM and burn your house down or anything.

Don't believe him, TecmoTurd, this is the same exact thing that Left Eye said.

Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/20/10, 03:32:53 PM
Heh, nice...I know you're not deeply vested or anything, but you bring up a good point, and I'm committed to making it a great ROM.  I actually like your idea of putting the setup man in there...

If I really don't want to change it, I won't, but when you bring up a good, justified idea or suggestion, I'm all ears, brother...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: fknmclane on 01/20/10, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/20/10, 03:12:57 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/20/10, 03:08:36 PM
If you (or others) want to leave it as it is, I'm not going to delete the ROM and burn your house down or anything.

Don't believe him, TecmoTurd, this is the same exact thing that Left Eye said.

I thought it was "oh shit, TREE!"
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Gantry on 01/20/10, 04:05:54 PM
wow
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/21/10, 05:01:32 PM
Got some free time, wouldn't mind getting a game or two in
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/21/10, 05:15:04 PM
I'll have some time tonight, maybe...you should get AIM express or something (you can use it on the web, no install) so it's easier to hook up for games...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/22/10, 11:17:50 PM
Ok, I've started in on this using STL.

Season Opener vs Arizona:  Carpenter goes lights out for 7 innings, Pujols has a solo shot and a double, Holliday has a 2 run homer in the 9th.  Miller gives up a run in the 9th and looked shaky as he allowed a DBacks rally, but manages to finish out anyways.

STL 3 ARI 1
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/22/10, 11:19:15 PM
Sweet, welcome aboard...is this on the latest rom, juiced? Are you going by the same set of rules?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/22/10, 11:47:56 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/22/10, 11:19:15 PM
Sweet, welcome aboard...is this on the latest rom, juiced? Are you going by the same set of rules?

That is correct.

Game 2

STL 8, ATL 1

Waiwright puts up 7 solid, giving up a solo shot to McAnn and many, many warning track nailbiters... 

After a relatively slow start including an unearned run (Ludwick reached on a BOP and proceeded to score), STL goes apeshit on Takashi Saito in the 8th, scoring 5 including a Pujols 3 run shot.  Unlike the ARI game it's not a 1 man show as STL has 6 batters with RBIs and 5 different runners score.

Franklin put up 2 scoreless innings to close it down.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/22/10, 11:49:48 PM
The cards are a good team on my ROM, as they should be...solid pitching stafff, save for an average closer, and a solid hitting team...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:11:45 AM
Re-peat (or anyone else), if you want to track your season on my site, I'll set you up...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 12:48:10 AM
I'm starting my season over now that I'm competing against repeat (except not now, cause i'm drunk)
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 11:42:52 AM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 12:11:45 AM
Re-peat (or anyone else), if you want to track your season on my site, I'll set you up...

I'm just keeping track of scores and records really...  full box scores would be a little much.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:09:35 PM
Game 3

STL 3 v BAL 2

Baltimore jumped out to an early lead with a  1st inning 2 run shot for Markakis, who would prove troublesome all day.  For St. Louis the story was Colby Rasmus, who had a shot of his own as well as getting on base to set the plate for a Holliday RBI.

Also, Holliday had a solid BOP in left field that was way, way too reminiscent of last year's playoffs.  Also since Franklin came in with a 1 run lead in the 9th and struggled to get the three outs I was thinking "If Holliday BOPs and Franklin blows a save this may be the most realistic baseball game I've ever played".
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:10:29 PM
I don't think you understand, you just upload your save state to my site and it tracks your records and stats for you.  Takes like, 5 seconds at the end of the game...but, to each his own.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Gantry on 01/23/10, 12:11:29 PM
God is repeat dumb
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:13:14 PM
Sorry, I've never had fancy tools like that...  Sure, I'll get in on that action.

Although I've started on a hot streak that's not likely to keep up, so can I manually enter those games?  :)
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:16:45 PM
No worries man, I know stat extraction is new to this forum. I wrote that extractor a while back for the league we were in.  Do you think if more people knew how cool things like this make the game, they'd play more online?  I don't know, I constantly find myself jonesin' for some league play, even though the juiced CPU is fun.

Anyways, there's not a great way to manually enter games...never coded for that cause I always just uploaded my games.  You can either start over or just wait until your next round...either way, no biggie dude.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:20:13 PM
Well, I guess I'm only 2 games back (you caught me before shutting down the baltimore game)...

I think more people should play online, but there a lot of people on here who have a huge stigma against it because of lag they experienced when they tried to play with FCE back in 2002...  I will admit that sometimes Nestopia lags too and when it does it's fucking deadly.

How do all the Tecmo leagues do it?  Are there dedicated servers or something?  I can imagine lag ruining the shit out of those games.

Also, nothing compares to playing someone in the same room.  Ever. 
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 12:21:04 PM
Go ahead and set me up on the site.

I'd also be in for a league, or if there's not enough interest, even just a little online round robin type tourney thing with like 3 or 4 people.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:22:39 PM
Agreed about the same room thing, but for tecmo leagues, Nestopia runs lag free, the only nestopia problem is every now and then there's a slight hiccup, but there are no servers or anything, everyone connects P2P which is the best, fastest way to do it.  Lag free...

As for SNES games, ZSNES is console quality netplay...when you played nestopia before, you are probably remembering the server style play.  Someone wrote a kaillera netplay client that allows you to connect directly to your opponent bypassing servers, and it's like buttah...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 12:23:12 PM
Quote from: Attezz on 01/23/10, 12:21:04 PM
Go ahead and set me up on the site.

I'd also be in for a league, or if there's not enough interest, even just a little online round robin type tourney thing with like 3 or 4 people.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:24:46 PM
Awesome attez, you can send me an email at traviskjansen at gmail with your desired username and password, and I'll set you up, and send you an email back when it's ready.  Same goes for you, Re-Peat.  I'm gonna go make some beef jerky after getting trounced by the Cubs here, but I'll set you up later.

Also, if we can get 4 guys or so, that might be fun to do a round robin tourney or something...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:26:21 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 12:22:39 PM
Someone wrote a kaillera netplay client that allows you to connect directly to your opponent bypassing servers, and it's like buttah...

I've definitely played with that and have still had lag issues sometimes.  

Usually it's just fine, but when it's late in the game, lag can kill a game almost as bad as missing a roughing the passer or facemask call...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:26:45 PM
How about I email you and you send me some beef jerky?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:27:35 PM
Man, I just ordered a whole array of spices to make some great stuff, pepperoni, pepper/garlic, andoullae, teriyakie...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 12:26:21 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 12:22:39 PM
Someone wrote a kaillera netplay client that allows you to connect directly to your opponent bypassing servers, and it's like buttah...

I've definitely played with that and have still had lag issues sometimes.  

Usually it's just fine, but when it's late in the game, lag can kill a game almost as bad as missing a roughing the passer or facemask call...

I don't know, brother, NES leagues are almost exclusively Nestopia nowdays and it's been pretty smooth sailing...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 12:36:07 PM
There were a few seconds of lag when i played Tecmoturd the other night, but it was sorted out almost instantly and was really smooth the rest of the way.

Until Gregg Zaun hit a two run home run, of course, than it could go fuck itself.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 01:33:23 PM
Lag, or hiccups...let me define what I'm saying...

Lag - The delay that occurs between when you press a button and the sprites on the field react to that button press.
Ex. pressing "A" and then a brief pause, and then the swing occurs

Hiccups - A quick moment in the game where it pauses for a second, before catching up with itself and resuming...if it's a bad connection, it can jump a lot

I've not had true lag in any game I've played using nestopia/p2p kaillera.  I've had hiccups, usually when I've had a bunch of crap running (like AIM, or my antivirus updates, or whatever).  Soon as I closed that stuff, no more hiccups.  Still, some connections are more susceptible to hiccups (especially wireless connections with cheap hardware, that stuff drops packets like a muther chuck.

So, in conclusion, there are hiccups occasionally, but to me, the chance to play online is worth it.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 01:51:43 PM
Beat Boston in a crazy slugfest...  Homers everywhere in a 5-3 victory.

Pujols had 2, Holliday and Rasmus had one apiece.

Ortiz and Ellbury for Boston connected deep.

Even RPs Miller and Papelbon almost went deep (they were both easy outs, but impressive shots for pitchers).

I'm beginning to think Pujols might be a little too overjuiced, he's so crazy good...  but on the other hand he really is that good, so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 01:59:22 PM
 No Name   R/L   Avg  HR Cnt Power Speed
===============================
03 Pujols   RHB .327 47   12     950     129
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 01:59:22 PM
No Name   R/L   Avg  HR Cnt Power Speed
===============================
03 Pujols   RHB .327 47   12     950     129

That's about what I figured.  I want to say that's too good, but then again Pujols is too good in real life, so...

He's basically a Jorge Bell with more pop.  So sick...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 02:22:49 PM
Hard to not give a guy who hits that many homers the max power (in my rating system, anyways)
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Gantry on 01/23/10, 02:29:08 PM
It's pronounced "poo holes" - lol
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 02:36:10 PM
And the "s" at the end implies that he has more than one poo hole. Awesome.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 02:37:02 PM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 02:22:49 PM
Hard to not give a guy who hits that many homers the max power (in my rating system, anyways)

Well, it's the contact that's so noticeable.  Everything jumps off his bat.

But then again, if anyone in the league deserves good contact, it's Pujols.

And maybe that Mauer guy too.  But fuck him, right Attezz?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 02:39:18 PM
Hey, Re-peat, how do you feel about Pujols?

Do you think he's any good?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 02:43:19 PM
Nah, he's a fucking bum. 

He has some potential, but he just never really seems to get focused enough to keep his eye on the ball.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 02:43:46 PM
I'm glad we can finally hear your opinion of him in this thread.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 02:43:55 PM
Someone play me online
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 02:46:22 PM
I'll be around this evening to play a game or two...i'm gonnan play with my son now...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Re-Peat on 01/23/10, 03:52:50 PM
Edged out Cincy 4-2 with a 2 run Holliday blast in the 9th.  I don't know why but something made the Cincy pitchers really good, I was on the ropes all game until Cordero ran out of steam and floated a meatball to Holliday.

Carpenter gave up another couple of blasts, management is going to have a word with him...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 03:53:44 PM
I've slaughtered all three teams.

It is insanely easy to upload the stuff to the website, insanely. This is really good stuff.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 04:15:13 PM
You're really slaughtering teams. Wonder why you're doing so much better than I? Glad you find it easy. Hopefully others will too.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/23/10, 04:16:18 PM
The first twelve games or so was a bit of a struggle, kinda figured out the pitching pattern though and it's gotten easier for me to wear down the pitcher by about the third inning.

The Boston game was a bit of a massacre though.

I may go ahead and use the slider things and up the CPU settings for the next batch of games though.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 04:38:02 PM
Yeah, feel free if you want to make it harder...give them more power or something...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: TβG on 01/23/10, 08:50:10 PM
i'm not really participating in the challenge officially.  just thought i'd share some games here as i go.

the computer just turned a triple play against me. 

the bases were loaded with angels pitcher palmer at the plate.  he ground weakly to the pitcher who threw home and then to third.  the runner from first was too aggressive and when i rounded second with him the throw came in and was cut by the SS who tagged me out for the thrid out.  pretty awesome comp defense.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 10:23:06 PM
There is no official challenge, really, just started as an incentive for myself (and others who thought it'd be fun) to play the ROM.

Awesome work on the trip, CPU!  I actually got the first triple play of my life the other night...very rare, but it was cool...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Turd on 01/23/10, 10:32:29 PM
Attezz...I just realized I gave Mauer a really low contact and a lot of power...normally on paper I'd say that's about right, the dude hit .365 for 28 HRs last year, but I'm concerned he hits too many HRs.   In this situation with such low contact, I'd lower his power a little so that he doesn't hit a HR every at bat...in your realistic opinion, does he play about right?
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 01/24/10, 11:54:30 AM
Quote from: tecmoturd on 01/23/10, 10:32:29 PM
Attezz...I just realized I gave Mauer a really low contact and a lot of power...normally on paper I'd say that's about right, the dude hit .365 for 28 HRs last year, but I'm concerned he hits too many HRs.   In this situation with such low contact, I'd lower his power a little so that he doesn't hit a HR every at bat...in your realistic opinion, does he play about right?

Bear in mind that I'm just as bias about Mauer as Re-peat is about Pujols.

I think he's perfect.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Clambutt on 02/01/10, 10:45:00 AM
1st game, lost 3-4 to ARZ in 11 innings.  CIN is the biggest bag of shit ever.  Only good hitter is Votto.  Harang pitched an 11 inning CG though...
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Clambutt on 02/01/10, 11:10:34 AM
Game 2, W 5-1 vs. ATL.  Brandon Phillips KILLED.  3 HR, 5 RBI.  CG for Arroyo.
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Clambutt on 02/05/10, 03:35:37 PM
Attezz seems to be the Barry Bonds of 30 team challenge... :-\
Title: Re: My 30 Team Challenge
Post by: Attezz on 02/05/10, 03:40:32 PM
I did end up upping the computer batting rankings, I may give it a shot this evening since I'm snowed in and see if it's tougher.