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Title: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 11:07:05 AM
I was wondering if anybody would be interested in an online league? The page is allready set up. Gantry might also give us a forum on this board.  It will be an original team rom. We will use nesticle for gameplay.  The Schedule and everything is set. 20 game season, 2 games a week. We would like to use AIM for our league messenger, my aim is Clyon81, so if you are interested, contact me there, or by CandE53189@yahoo.com.  I am also interested in somebody that might want to set up a simple stat system so we could keep track of team stats. If im missing anything, just ask.

http://league.rbicentral.com

Look forward you hearing from ya,

C. Lyon
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/03/03, 12:01:11 PM
The site is up and looks good...

I guess I'll join the league and take the Angels..

For now, we'll use this thread to Iron out some rules.  Then when we get things going and fill out the teams, we'll start a forum.

Some things to consider:

1)  I don't really like the first-come-first-serve idea of getting teams.  Given this is a guinea pig league, it'll be fine for now.   But if the league takes off, people should be able to choose teams and/or a lottery if you want to use only one team.

2)  One or two starting pitchesr?

More ideas to come, but feel free to discuss...

Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: GDavis on 03/03/03, 12:16:43 PM
Will you need a high speed connection to play online, or will 56K be enough?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/03/03, 01:26:25 PM
I'm pretty sure that dialup connections are too slow to reliably play NES games.  But there's only one way to find out...

Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: vgp100 on 03/03/03, 02:47:11 PM
This seems pretty cool. What do you need to do?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 03:27:11 PM
I was wondering if anybody would be interested in an online league? The page is allready set up. Gantry might also give us a forum on this board.  It will be an original team rom. We will use nesticle for gameplay.  The Schedule and everything is set. 20 game season, 2 games a week. We would like to use AIM for our league messenger, my aim is Clyon81, so if you are interested, contact me there, or by CandE53189@yahoo.com.  I am also interested in somebody that might want to set up a simple stat system so we could keep track of team stats. If im missing anything, just ask.

http://league.rbicentral.com

Look forward you hearing from ya,

C. Lyon
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 03:29:53 PM
How to Join:

1-You need to get the emulator nesticle.
2-You need to get the original rbi baseball rom for the emulator (ill post it on the webpage soon, with links.
3- go to www.aol.com, get aim, and get a screen name

My aim is clyon81, so if you guys want to play a scrimmage or two or something, hit me up once you have done the above, also go to the league site and the teams section to find other members aim's and hit them up for a scrimmage.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: schneike16 on 03/03/03, 06:01:06 PM
I'll be taking the Mets. May Doc have mercy on your souls.

aim: Schneike16
email: schneike16@attbi.com
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 06:30:13 PM
After testing some other dial-ups, i have concluded that they work with cable, but not with eachother, so I guess Ill be the only dial-upper in this league. Cable or better only. (unless you test with me, and it works)
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 07:32:38 PM
Down the Middle Pitching only (no sinkers) only normal and fast pitching

6 innings max game length
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: jcbball86 on 03/03/03, 07:51:57 PM
oh, well i already took boston so heres my stuff

aim:jcbball86
email:jcbball86@yahoo.com

another thing, down the middle is just hit A, right? not moving over and barely knicking the plate?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/03/03, 07:53:44 PM
right, because otherwise it's a question if somebody acutally tries to knick, and misses. so just stand in the middle, and toss it
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/04/03, 03:29:44 PM
no problem. our forum is going to be at http://forums.dee-nee.com, so maybe go there and sign up(2 seconds) and say hi

Consider it done:  hi
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/04/03, 03:30:09 PM
I'm taking Houston
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/04/03, 03:30:55 PM
I think the pitching should be up the middle, but I also think that sinkers should be allowed at least.  Otherwise good pitchers are just worthless no?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: jcbball86 on 03/04/03, 09:24:23 PM
i dont think so, because most of the time its random, so theres not much skill involved with it.  the main point of down the middle is so people can hit the ball and not strikeout.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/05/03, 09:59:36 AM
I hate to be the one to knock a staight pitch style, but down the middle, no moving on the mound and no slowballs makes pretty much all pitching worthless.  It'll be a slugfest, but I'm up to the challenge....

The key is getting a demo league started and we can iron out the rules afterwards.  So it's clyon's league, let him pick the rules and we can adapt later.  Too many of these leagues never get started because there is too much preparation and everyone loses interest...
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: schneike16 on 03/05/03, 10:35:10 PM
up the middle still makes for a fun game, and i believe it makes the game go by a lot faster... we don't want these games to drag on... that way we can play two a week and not feel like we're ALWAYS playing baseball... and yes, it does take away somewhat from good pitching, but it makes guys like Nolan even more valuable
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/06/03, 02:21:28 AM
only having pitching up the middle completely devalues Nolan.  His biggest threat is the fastball.  It is not a threat if you can sit on it by knowing that the sinker isn't coming.  

If this becomes a pitch-up-the-middle slugfest, how in the world am I supposed to compete with Houston?!...

The sinker tires out pitchers as well as making the game more than just a slugfest.  With sinkers enabled, I played somone (Schneike?) and the score was 9-7 at the end of six innings.  Take away the sinker, double the score...
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/06/03, 11:33:12 AM
Down the midde pitching is not debateable. Sinker is. I guess we could have it if you guys want, but it has to be straight. The thing is sometimes people turn off sound to speed up the connections, and without that sounds, people sometimes don't know if's a sinder until they have allready swong the bat. (swong?)  So I guess let's play with it. But my concearn is some pitches have slow pitches that never cross the plate, and that would be a distinct advantage as opposed to somebody who can't do that.

2 more teams to go, then the season starts, get your 2 cents in soon cause I want to get the official season 1 rules up and started.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/06/03, 11:53:43 AM
We use a sinker with anything but two strikes.  Works pretty well and not too cheap...
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/06/03, 12:05:46 PM
Swung

I like the 2 strikes rule.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: nightwulf on 03/06/03, 03:41:30 PM
Quote from: clyon81 on 03/06/03, 11:33:12 AMThe thing is sometimes people turn off sound to speed up the connections,

Having sound on or off will have no effect on your game if you're using a computer built in the last 5 years. NESticle syncs CPU cycles via the network connection, but absoultely no part of the sound engine has anything to do with the network. If people are having problems with NESticle running a network game and the sound code simultaneously, they really ought to invest in a little RAM, and maybe a processor over 400MHz.

Christ, I had the old DOS version of NESticle running with sound, fully playable on a 25MHz machine with 12 megs of RAM ...

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/06/03, 09:23:29 PM
people who know things that others don't and talk down to those others to make themselves feel all smart and tough... are cool
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/06/03, 09:45:11 PM
I will admit that I assumed it did, because in playing tecmo it did appear to when people asked others and myself to do it.  If you are right or  not I don't know. Im not a computer nerd, so Ill take your word for it.


AS for the 2 strike rule, it sounds good, if there is no objection maybe we will use it. i would still like to avoid the "Accident" situations like when people didnt mean to throw a 2 stirke slow pitch that results in the end of an inning with potential runs in scoring position. I mean, there really is no way to make up for something like that, is there?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: nightwulf on 03/07/03, 08:14:09 AM
Quote from: Schneike16 on 03/06/03, 09:23:29 PMpeople who know things that others don't and talk down to those others to make themselves feel all smart and tough... are cool

Aye, about as cool as people who take offense and feel they're being "talked down to" whenever someone points anything out to them.

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Big Hath on 03/07/03, 09:26:55 AM
Ok.  You've both made your points.

Everyone please move along, there's nothing to see here . . . move along . . .
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/07/03, 10:06:14 AM
Sorry, I didn't realize you were pointing something out to Christ. I thought you were just using His name blasphemously to enhance a pompous statement. Obviously you can see how one could make that mistake. Please accept my apology.

Then, again, it is easy to misinterpret how things are being said when they're said in black-and-white. I take it all back.  :-*
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/08/03, 05:56:41 PM
So what's the word on this league?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: jcbball86 on 03/09/03, 10:32:02 AM
i like the 2 strike rule

anyway you put it, the league will have problems.  you are playing online with someone who could be across the country, and if something goes wrong, how can you decide on a conclusion?  and, how can the 2nd player be able to sub?  what if the 2nd player wants a sub and keeps saying it in the chat box, but the other player never checks? then what....there has to be a signal, like swing before the pitch comes or something.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/09/03, 11:16:46 AM
I would say that the swing when ready rule is good. or I would say that between each inning (only 6) you ask the other player if they would like to sub that inning. They should be responsible for knowing what part of their own order is coming up. we could just do that, AND/OR swing before each batter is ready.  As far as disconnects, keep your eye on the score and inning, so if it's 5-4 mets in the bottom of the 4th with 2 outs, just re-connect, and know that you would now have to play to the 3rd inning.  

I think somebody should decided on a vframe rate for playing games. I don't know how it works in tecmo, but a certin number possibly would give the most optimum, lagless game possible.

I would also like snap shots of the game stats during the sceen after the 6th inning, if the game does not need to go to the bottom of the 6th because the last up team is allready ahead, just bunt and get out the 3 at bats. Then snap the stats screen. Since the games are usually 9 innings, it might be hard, so I suggest just saving the state right when the last out is recorded, then you can just reload and snap it.

THe season will start as soon as we get 2 more teams, thanks to all of you who have waited so patiently. As you know we will be posting scores and summaries on this board, so when you get a chance, play some exhibitions, and post some summaries in here.

Thats it for now,

Chet
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/10/03, 10:24:35 AM
As far as NESticle is concerned, setting v-frame rate depends on your ping. Divide ping by 1/2 and add two is a general rule-of-thumb for deciding on v-frame rate. Otherwise the game gets laggy and jumpy. So if you have to play at v-11, get your timing down.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/10/03, 12:16:40 PM
We are going to do some experimenting with online play tonight, so we'll have more details on the best emu/settings/connection this evening...

Good to get this started!
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/11/03, 09:42:54 AM
I worked with AndrewMaselli (bro of Gwynn3k) last night to setup online RBI via FCE Ultra.  While we were able to get it going, I had some problems with lag.  And this was cable to DSL, so dialup player will probably SOL in the short-term...
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/11/03, 01:19:02 PM
has anyone played online using RockNES?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/12/03, 01:24:00 AM
Okay a few things.

A)  Neticle is the best out there so don't mess with it

B)  The two strike rule is dumb b/c accidents will happen... what is so wrong with strikeouts every now and again?  The pitch where you hold up and press A should be fine.  

C)  NightWolf or whoever is right, the sound makes NO difference

D)  If this is a high speed league, then we should play all of our games on vFrame 5.  Playing v11 is just whack.

5)  Have a nice day  ;D
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Gantry on 03/12/03, 08:27:35 AM
If Nesticle can play an online game of RBI without lag, then I guess we should go for it.  I personally see a few glitches when playing RBI, though I didn't try changing any settings.  Also, a DOS-based emu can cause problems with certain people (Andrew said he was having problem).  And does Nesticle let you play with a USB joystick?

I'd prefer to find a successor to Nesticle, but if it works the best then lets use it.  Nothing wrong with trying out other emus though...
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/12/03, 11:38:27 AM
I use a USB sidewinder to play on NESticle... or used to before I figured out that it's much easier to play TSB using the keyboard.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Schneike16 on 03/12/03, 12:18:57 PM
Sorry to do this, but I'm witdrawing my name from the RBI league. It sounded like fun at first but I'm not really that much of an RBI fan. Plus, if it takes this long to fill eight teams, I don't see the season lasting very long. Sorry, CLyon.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: ericdavisfan on 03/12/03, 01:43:31 PM
I was initially interested in doing the league, but I only have a decent net connection at school where I teach.  I don't know if I'd be able to get aim (I don't even know what that is!!!).  Plus, I don't know all of what is involved in linking up with another player.  I don't know if our firewall would prevent it.  Is there a way to play a test game to put aside any reservations and questions?  I didn't want to take a spot and then find out that I couldn't play.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: callmefairf on 03/12/03, 05:01:00 PM
ericdavis, email me at dleifriaf@yahoo.com, i'll get you all figured out
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: clyon81 on 03/16/03, 01:47:37 AM
I have decided to postpone the league until we can find 8 dedicated owners. Maybe once the MLB season is underway, people might be more interested in baseball. There are a number of people who like rbi baseball, but it seems hard to find 8 who are 1-willing to play online 2-willing to play on a regular basis over a period of about 2 months AND MOST IMPORTANTLY 3-equiped with some sort of high speed connection. If we could play RBI with dial-up like tecmo, I have no doubt this league could, and would be filled up. Until that time, or a time when we find 8 people similar to the above description, then we must put this on hold. Sorry for any inconvenience.

(Unless you guys wanted to make the league even smaller? maybe 5 team league, 6 games against each opponent for a 24 game season?)  

Its up to you guys.
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: nightwulf on 03/16/03, 01:37:05 PM
Quote from: clyon81 on 03/16/03, 01:47:37 AMIf we could play RBI with dial-up like tecmo,

Wait, you can play Tecmo fine on dial-up, but not RBI? That doesn't make much sense. Might hafta look into optimizing that.

Nightwulf
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: vgp100 on 03/17/03, 11:36:19 AM
Quote from: Schneike16 on 03/12/03, 12:18:57 PMI'm not really that much of an RBI fan.


Did he say what I thought he said?
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: ericdavisfan on 03/17/03, 11:49:21 AM
It does seem like an odd comment to make doesn't it?  ...or at the very least, it's an extremely odd place to make the comment...in an RBI forum?!?!?!  
Title: Re:Tengen League Baseball
Post by: jcbball86 on 03/17/03, 11:53:54 PM
not much of an rbi fan...but joins a league and posts regularly on a forum.  you have to be some what of an rbi fan.
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: TβG on 08/07/06, 03:54:30 PM
is this the thread doverbi was referring to?
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: ultimate7 on 08/07/06, 04:07:54 PM
This thread is embarrassing, there's no question about that
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Big Hath on 08/07/06, 05:11:26 PM
other than my post, this thread sucks
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: fightonusc on 08/07/06, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: Big Hath on 08/07/06, 05:11:26 PM
other than my post, this thread sucks

You posted in this thread? I'm checking the list of people that posted, and...I don't see your name there. Sorry!
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: BDawk on 08/07/06, 06:11:55 PM
Quote from: vgp100 on 03/03/03, 02:47:11 PM
This seems pretty cool. What do you need to do?

What a fucking dork...I hope he was being sarcastic
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: TβG on 08/07/06, 07:48:27 PM
n00bs
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: nomaaa on 08/08/06, 12:06:30 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/07/06, 04:07:54 PM
This thread is embarrassing, there's no question about that

edf doesn't even know what aol instant messenger is!
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: ericdavisfan on 08/08/06, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: nomaaa on 08/08/06, 12:06:30 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/07/06, 04:07:54 PM
This thread is embarrassing, there's no question about that

edf doesn't even know what aol instant messenger is!

Give me a break!  I was just a simple caveman teacher back then.
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: Big Hath on 08/08/06, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: ericdavisfan on 08/08/06, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: nomaaa on 08/08/06, 12:06:30 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 08/07/06, 04:07:54 PM
This thread is embarrassing, there's no question about that

edf doesn't even know what aol instant messenger is!

Give me a break!  I was just a simple caveman teacher back then.


that is so condescending
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: ericdavisfan on 08/08/06, 01:54:19 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of this:

(http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/3e0/133/3e013301-eea5-4f17-bec2-290ee0d4d68c.medium)
Title: Re: Tengen League Baseball
Post by: BlueDoverDown on 08/09/06, 07:10:45 PM
Read the whole thread and now i feel like sitting on a toilet and punching myself. That being said Tengen=RBI