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Title: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/05, 03:48:05 PM
What books out there (that deal specifically with RBI'ers or the era in which they played) should be considered "must read" books? 

Two I can think of offhand


I can vouch for One Pitch Away, a great read.  From what others have been saying about The Bad Guys Won, that is also a doozie.  What others?
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fknmclane on 04/25/05, 03:55:22 PM
I was gonna start a thread for this but I'll just include it here even though it isn't a book.

The All Fat team includes three RBIers. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/050425&num=0)

If Kevin Mitchell ever writes an autobiography, it should definitely be considered essential reading.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/05, 04:19:42 PM
That reminds me, has anyone read the Gooden or Canseco autobiography?  Essential or fluff?
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/05, 04:23:39 PM
From the article:

" For example, in 1990, he was four days late to spring training because he got injured eating a microwaved donut, requiring root canal work"

"We're not sure, but the legendary cupcake injury appears, upon further research, to have actually been the donut injury; we found many references to the cupcake that offer no details, yet we know that the donut icing melted into Mitchell's fillings, which caused that affliction."

The donut injury isn't on the Hall of Shame and this adds a little explanation to the mysterious cupake affliction.  Could it be untrue?  Can I no longer call him cupcake?
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 04:35:53 PM
"Play Ball" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679416188/qid=1114462728/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by John Feinstein has a lot of information that is RBI related. It follows the 1992 baseball season - a good chapter on the Mets of that year, plus Garner's first year as a manager, etc. If you like John Feinstein books, find this used sometime.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/05, 04:36:56 PM
And if you click on the used section of amazon, they have a bunch for $1
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 04:38:30 PM
I picked mine up at a used bookstore in Lake Tahoe over one vacation. It's prime shitter reading material, although the spine of the book is trashed and the pages are starting to fall apart.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/25/05, 04:43:42 PM
Buy some toilet paper and you won't have that problem... 
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 05:00:36 PM
I prefer Wet Naps...

Other RBI-related books I haven't read yet:

Bullet Bob Comes to Louisville (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/1888698209/ref=dp_nav_1/102-3226895-8080151?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books) by John "Blank" Morris - it got a very good review from Baseball Weekly, and I believe anything I read there.
Reggie: The Autobiography (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0394532430/qid=1114466374/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Potatoes
Wizard (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0809245949/qid=1114466468/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Ozzie Smith
The Ticket Out: Darryl Strawberry and the Boys of Crenshaw (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0743226739/ref=pd_sim_b_6/102-3226895-8080151?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) by Michael Sokolove (which is supposed to be an amazing book, BTW.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 05:03:24 PM
Also, I can't believe this is a real book:

Fowl Tips: My Favorite Chicken Recipes (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000723O2C/qid=1114466755/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Wade Boggs.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 05:13:13 PM
"Nothing But The Truth: A Baseball Life" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312921063/qid=1114467095/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Don Baylor
"Rocket Man: The Roger Clemens Story" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0828906297/qid=1114467209/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Roger Clemens and Peter Gammons
"Bottom of the Ninth" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1886947139/qid=1114467368/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Kirk Gibson
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 06:00:51 PM
"Miracle Man" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0849935075/qid=1114469946/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Nolan Ryan
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fknmclane on 04/25/05, 06:07:10 PM
Quote from: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 06:00:51 PM
"Miracle Man" (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0849935075/qid=1114469946/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-3226895-8080151?v=glance&s=books) by Nolan Ryan


I think you mean Elvis Costello.

(http://www.bobgruen.com/files/asst/R.280%20ELVIS%20COSTELLO%20LIVE'77.jpg)
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: RedBarron on 04/25/05, 06:32:16 PM
I have read Ozzie, Reggie, and One Pitch Away.

One Pitch Away should be REQUIRED reading for any fan of RBI baseball.  The book is amazing.

Ozzie is a so so read. . . . Reggie is much better because there was cussing involved.

Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 04/25/05, 06:42:57 PM
I'm sort of interested in the Don Baylor book - not someone I would have thought would have written a autobiography, but it could be interesting.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fknmclane on 04/25/05, 09:48:35 PM
I've had One Pitch Away for quite awhile now but still haven't read it.  It's at the top of my reading list for when school finishes up in the next couple of weeks.  Looks like perfect doody reading material.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: RedBarron on 04/26/05, 06:08:26 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 04/25/05, 09:48:35 PM
I've had One Pitch Away for quite awhile now but still haven't read it.  It's at the top of my reading list for when school finishes up in the next couple of weeks.  Looks like perfect doody reading material.


Not a page was read of that book when shit was not flowing from my asshole.


I'm reading "The Natural" now. . . . part is read while ryne takes a bath. . . other parts are read as I doody.


On deck is "Shoeless Joe"


Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: BeeJay on 04/26/05, 06:27:26 PM
I've never been able to read more than a quick article while on the toilet, and even then I'm just sitting there reading after I've finished crapping.  A book would probably take me years to finish if I only read it in the bathroom.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: RedBarron on 04/26/05, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: BeeJay on 04/26/05, 06:27:26 PM
I've never been able to read more than a quick article while on the toilet, and even then I'm just sitting there reading after I've finished crapping.  A book would probably take me years to finish if I only read it in the bathroom.


i shoot for a chapter a shit.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Attezzobal on 04/29/05, 12:52:58 AM
Scapegoats : Baseballs Whose Careers Are Marked By One Fateful Play

Chapters on both Donnie Moore and Billy Buck (Buckner makes the cover), picked it up for two bucks...Knew about Merkle and Snod and Branca and obviously Buck, Moore and Mitch Williams, but there's a handful that I wasn't too familiar with, plus it's unbelievably detail oriented, which is nice...Just got to the Donnie Moore chapter, after that comes Billy Buck, I'll edit this post with more info (if I come across any)
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/30/05, 02:20:25 AM
The chapter on Donnie Moor in One Pitch Away was quite good, and quite scary.  His wife went through a lot of shit with Donnie.  Seems a little off her rocker when being interviewed for the book, but then again being shot in the neck tends to do that...
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Nails on 04/30/05, 03:09:34 AM
I was glad to get that chapter out of the way in the beginning, so that I could enjoy the rest.  Depressing story to say the least, although I think it was even worse on TV.  I saw a show that told the whole story quite a few years ago, and to put faces and images to it made it even creepier.  I don't remember much detail about his wife's behavior, but I think she came off a little more level headed.   

Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/30/05, 03:11:56 AM
She wasn't completely loony, but some of her discussions were a little off.  But then again, it probably isn't an easy thing to discuss.  IIRC, she was shot multiple times and made it through.  Not to mention dealing with her husbands depression, alcoholism and beatings.  Take a strong lady to get through all she did...
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Nails on 04/30/05, 03:16:25 AM
Quote from: Gantry on 04/30/05, 03:11:56 AM
Take a strong lady to get through all she did...

Absolutely, I was amazed how she managed to cope through all that and then carry on afterwards. 
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 04/30/05, 09:26:33 AM
I guess when you get right down do it, you don't have much of a choice.  Not that what she's done isn't admirable but life goes on.  She had to be strong for her kids at the very least, that's gotta be hella traumatic...
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Nacho on 04/30/05, 05:02:45 PM
This may be asking a lot, but can someone summarize what happened with the Moore fiasco?  I know he committed suicide, but what added detail does the book provide?
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/22/17, 07:20:53 AM
Bumping

New book on 1970's A's has been terrific (Dynastic, Bombastic, Fantastic).  Most of the A's arcade roster is covered (Reggie, Tenace, Bando, Vida Blue).  Highly recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/Dynastic-Bombastic-Fantastic-Catfish-Charlie-ebook/dp/B01I4FPO3U

Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 10/22/17, 10:48:28 AM
Is Potatoes the major league asshole that people make him out to be? 
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Shooty on 10/22/17, 11:12:01 AM
I read the Sparky Lyle book and it would appear so.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: ultimate7 on 10/22/17, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 10/22/17, 10:48:28 AM
Is Potatoes the major league asshole that people make him out to be? 

Only half way through, doesn't sound like he was so bad in the Oakland years.  Charley Finley on the other hand was pretty much a lunatic, but also a marketing genius.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Reds on 10/23/17, 02:03:20 PM
https://deadspin.com/ray-knight-charged-with-assault-and-battery-1819777619
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 10/23/17, 02:07:24 PM
Just came here to post this.

"Police say that officers were called to Knight's home at 4:00 a.m. on Sunday after an argument between Knight and a 33-year-old male acquaintance turned into a fight."

This reads like he's being outed in a sneaky, shady way.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 10/23/17, 02:09:34 PM
4am is a little late to be up, Ray. 
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 10/23/17, 02:11:55 PM
See you on the other side (of the jail bars), Ray.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 10/23/17, 02:26:14 PM
It's A Shame About Ray
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: fightonusc on 10/23/17, 05:43:37 PM
Ray's gone bye bye
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: ultimate7 on 12/07/17, 08:03:07 PM
And this is coming out next year:

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/im-keith-hernandez-keith-hernandez/1124564278?ean=9780316395731&st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_New+Core+Shopping+Books_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP164974&gclid=CjwKCAiA6qPRBRAkEiwAGw4SdjprLhcQN3t7vJAI4nOQ9AWSu57PekDr9jd7yjiKODDr1GPL5pl2hRoCjZUQAvD_BwE#/
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Flood on 12/11/17, 04:38:12 PM
Nice link, newb.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: ultimate7 on 03/10/18, 06:03:15 PM
Split Season is about 1981, I'm about 1/2 way through, lots on Fernando, Reggie, Hawk, but also many players involved on the player rep side, RBIers, Bob, Boone and Doug Decinces amoung others

https://www.amazon.com/Split-Season-Fernandomania-Strike-Baseball/dp/B01LTHXKHM

Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: ryno on 03/10/18, 07:46:27 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 10/22/17, 10:48:28 AM
Is Potatoes the major league asshole that people make him out to be?


He's not an asshole.  He can back all his shit-talking up.
Title: Re: Essential RBI Reading
Post by: Gantry on 03/12/18, 08:42:31 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 03/10/18, 06:03:15 PM
Split Season is about 1981, I'm about 1/2 way through, lots on Fernando, Reggie, Hawk, but also many players involved on the player rep side, RBIers, Bob, Boone and Doug Decinces amoung others

https://www.amazon.com/Split-Season-Fernandomania-Strike-Baseball/dp/B01LTHXKHM



I should make a Wiki page or  *gasp* even a dee-nee.com page update for all of these.