Best Bench in RBI?

[Stock]

i can't imagine putting in stinky for wade fucking boggs

Same here.  Boggs is the man.

Agree.  I don't understand why anyone would take out boggs, but leave buckner in the game.  Makes no sense.
It is true that they have the same maximum power.  However, boggs is MUCH faster and he only has a -4 surcharge for not hitting the ball on the sweet spot.  So pretty much, he has nearly the same power as buckner when he doesn't even hit the ball on the sweet spot.

[Briznock]

Boggs sucks giant monkey dicks.

[Stock]

The dicks of giant monkeys?
Or the dicks of the monkeys with giant dicks?

[BDawk]

Giant monkeys have giant dicks.  Small monkeys have small dicks

[BDawk]

I took a few monkey dick classes in college so I know what I'm talking about

[nomaaa]

because that's what you do at penn state

[bigbrothermuscle]

What's the Barrett debate? I've read on here that a lot of people take out Maaaahhhty Barrett in favor of either Dave Henderson or possibly Armas (for the heavy 1st at-bat).

I've generally never had any major problems with the former Sox 2nd baseman, but it seems like he gets a lot of flack. Any reasons why?

Also, Stinky Sullivan is only worthwhile in the 9th. Made the crucial mistake recently putting him in the 8th for Gedman and it went nowhere.

[BeefMaster]

What's the Barrett debate? I've read on here that a lot of people take out Maaaahhhty Barrett in favor of either Dave Henderson or possibly Armas (for the heavy 1st at-bat).

I've generally never had any major problems with the former Sox 2nd baseman, but it seems like he gets a lot of flack. Any reasons why?

I think it's mostly because the Sox have three really good bench bats, and Barrett is one of the three worst Sox starters.

I always disliked Barrett partially because of his anemic power and partially because of his disappointing speed - he's one of the slower leadoff men in the game.

[TbT]

Agree.  I don't understand why anyone would take out boggs, but leave buckner in the game.  Makes no sense.
It is true that they have the same maximum power.  However, boggs is MUCH faster and he only has a -4 surcharge for not hitting the ball on the sweet spot.  So pretty much, he has nearly the same power as buckner when he doesn't even hit the ball on the sweet spot.

Thats was the best use of "surcharge" ever....by a landslide.

[Stock]

What's the Barrett debate? I've read on here that a lot of people take out Maaaahhhty Barrett in favor of either Dave Henderson or possibly Armas (for the heavy 1st at-bat).

I've generally never had any major problems with the former Sox 2nd baseman, but it seems like he gets a lot of flack. Any reasons why?

Also, Stinky Sullivan is only worthwhile in the 9th. Made the crucial mistake recently putting him in the 8th for Gedman and it went nowhere.

What beef said about barret.  I have him ranked as the 5th worst player in the game.  I would rather have Owen in the lineup than barret as I would give him a slight nod due to being a lefty.
As for sullivan, he is only good for one AB, so you should never sub him for a 1-8 hitter... only the pitcher's spot.
Once he blows his PH wad, he is worse than Buckner, and that is befor you factor in that he is only a righty.
Even with his PH bonus he is still the weakest bench player without the others having their pinch hit bonus.
With his pinch hit bonus, he is also weaker than Rice, Baylor, Evans, and Gedman.
Oh yeah, he is also tied for last in speed in the entire game.

[bigbrothermuscle]

I agree, Bucker has sucked it up lately. He hits dingers once in a while, but slaps into too many DPs a lot. Dave Henderson is the man coming off the bench though. That guy I'd put up there with Bayor and Armas in terms of pure power, he's got it.

[Stock]

I agree, Bucker has sucked it up lately. He hits dingers once in a while, but slaps into too many DPs a lot. Dave Henderson is the man coming off the bench though. That guy I'd put up there with Bayor and Armas in terms of pure power, he's got it.

Not to mention all the times Buckner gets thrown out from Right Field. 
He is the worst.

[golfer5714]

Boston hands down! Armas for Barret, Burks for Buckner, Henderson for Owens.  Sully is only used when I need to sub for the pitcher in late innings, but has been known to hit a grand slam or two for me!

[Metal King]

Johnny.

Well, being serious, I'd say Detroit (I just voted for them). Boston's bench may look better, stats & all, but I do alot better with Detroit's bench.

Madlock and Heath have a ton of power & always get me deep drives or homers (long ones), and I know everyone talks about how great Sheridan is (plus he's a lefty), and ol' Bergman can hit quite a few longballs (lefty too)!

I can't believe this game is now 23 years old......

[BDawk]

Madlock sucks!

[Stock]

Johnny.

Well, being serious, I'd say Detroit (I just voted for them). Boston's bench may look better, stats & all, but I do alot better with Detroit's bench.

Madlock and Heath have a ton of power & always get me deep drives or homers (long ones), and I know everyone talks about how great Sheridan is (plus he's a lefty), and ol' Bergman can hit quite a few longballs (lefty too)!

I can't believe this game is now 23 years old......

Detroit definitely has the lefties going for them.

Let's just take a look at the power stats and hand.
I have included Bo, Ca, & Dt (as I feel these are the only debatable teams in this argument).

Bo     Dt     Ca
R 918     R 849     L 891
R 888     L 831     R 849
R 879     R 819     L 816
R 789     L 789     R 789

Boston
Pros:  By far the best average & median power (32 & 51 respective points over Dt.)
         Only team with a 900+ bench guy.
         Boston's 3rd most powerful bench guy is more powerfull than all Dt's and 3 of Ca's.
Cons:  No Lefties
          The worst of the 4th best bench guys, driving the most variance (or inconsistancy) in bench power.

Detroit
Pros:  2 Lefties
         Most consistently powerful bench (lowest variance).
         The best #4 power guy.
Cons:  Lowest average & median power bench.
         
Cal
Pros:  Jones is only 27 points weaker than Armas, but is a lefty and has 10 points better speed.  (Arguably the best overall bench guy on the 3 teams).
         2 Lefties
         Top 2 guys have 60 more power points than Dt's.
Cons:  Blow their wad with Hndrk & Jones.  Lowest average bottom 2 of these three teams.


I think if I had to rank, I would still go with Bo being number 1.  Their only weakness is too many righties, but the power is so much greater.  
I will rank Ca ahead of Dt.  I could even accept an argument that they are better than Bo (depending on my mood).  2 good lefties with decent power and a strong righty.
Dt has a great bench and are very consistent.  However, they are consistently much weaker than Boston and Cal.  Their saving grace is Sheridan, in that he is the best of the 3 teams once you are down to your weakest bench guy.

[Metal King]

Well put.  Nice commentary, heh heh.

I can't believe all this good ol' discussion about a game that's almost 25 years old!

I still take Detroit, they probably perform well 'cause I'm a Tigers fan and live in Michigan....

Madlock sucks?  I'm shocked to see that. He has very McGwire-ish type power everytime I swing.

Ok CLOSE to his power, I'm tellin' ya, the ball flies off Mad Dog's bat.

I usually have trouble with Burks and Henderson off Boston's bench, especially Henderson. Lots of ground outs, but I swing the same way.

[bigbrothermuscle]

Putting in Armas for Barrett and Burks for Buckner has made a HUGE difference in how this Boston team gets their runs scored.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Hope your weekend coming up rocks!