Will mclane try to field a team with 5 OFs again?
I have no idea why my post has nothing to do about the draft
Will I select Ryne Sandberg with my first pick just to piss Ryno off?
I'm the GM for the OC--see how that sit's with everyone's strategy.
Where's Boomer?
I'll take even money that fknmclane tries to draft Eric Moulds.
No, He'll draft Strawberry and then trade him for Moulds
i hope defen comes around today. and somebody should track down baines. i cannot stress enough how important it is to get your proxy picks to sc to speed up this process.
Good thing we got this thing going with 3 quick picks, thanks a lot mclane.
Seriously, I think once everyone realizes that it has started, it'll move quickly, probably will take a couple of week days.
Mclane spends 12 hours a day here and he makes this the time to take a break from posting. Damn you Mclame, damn you.
Anyway, my first 2 rounds of proxy picks are into fighton. Hopefulyl others will do likewise.
Guys, I"m sorry. I'm terribly fucking busy at work this week. Our CEO is in town all week and he's totally nuts/hyper and it's just crazy. Anyway, I did make my first pick. I'll check in again in a bit. Methinks he's leaving around 2 or so my time to go do rich people stuff.
Holy cow, this is gonna be thin with 10 teams.
Like I said, there are no free agents (exactly the same number of teams as in the original game). Meaning two things:
- I expect to see a lot more trades this season (since you can't just dip into the free agent market for players
- Somebody's going to have Stinky Sullivan on their team
In watch mode you guys are aware I assume that the fourth pinch hitter never plays?
Quote from: Attezzobal on 10/26/05, 03:58:47 PM
In watch mode you guys are aware I assume that the fourth pinch hitter never plays?
Not true
The CPU will PH for the 8 hitter and the 9 hitter
i honestly can't remember from the games i saw last year. do we have proof of this from a boxscore or any stats from last season?
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 10/26/05, 04:05:25 PM
i honestly can't remember from the games i saw last year. do we have proof of this from a boxscore or any stats from last season?
Yes, by #4 PH got 3 ABs including a GW 3 run HR.
I could be wrong but I think I remember all 4 PHs being used in the same inning once, maybe not in fantasy though. PH for 8, 9, bat around PH for 8 again, but I think maybe won't PH for 9 the 2nd time since lead is usually big enough that it thinks it want to leave the pitcher (although the 9 spot is no longer the pitcher) in.
ok, i'll believe you. i thought i'd seen it too. this had the controversial makings of a pitcher hr. unbelievably, it was quelled within three posts.
The 4th PH will only bat when the game goes into extra innings, and then it's for the 8 hitter. How many total at bats did the 4th PH have last season?
Quote from: Attezzobal on 10/26/05, 04:13:17 PM
The 4th PH will only bat when the game goes into extra innings, and then it's for the 8 hitter.
Not true. The first pitcher could be PH for in the 4th. The 2nd pitcher could be PH for in the 7th. Then in the 8th 8 hitter and 3rd pitcher can be PH for. This is only one way it can happen, there are many others. I've watched hundreds of games.
Tu shay.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/26/05, 04:15:11 PM
I've watched hundreds of games.
You must have lots of cool stuff going on
Quote from: BDawk on 10/26/05, 04:20:28 PM
I'm bitter that fightonusc won't let me play in the league because he's jealous that I'm so funny.
Also, Baines is usually only around in the evenings, so it might be a little while until he checks in (unless fknmclane wants to give him a call and get a pick from him.)
i'll be logged back on tomorrow at 8am pacific. then i will disclose my #20 and 21 picks.
Let make some picks, in both drafts
Defen was here, but now he's gone and he didn't make his pick, what's the deal?
I didn't know I was up, I'm a dope. Pick made.
Are we allowed to do American League commentary (is anyone paying attention to that other than the guys in the league?)...If we are.
I'm surprised at how high Gehrig went, second overall seems awfully high for a guy with only 909 power and a horrific disease.
I agree with you Azz, but in reality, there are going to be 7 strong teams, I can understand picking your favorites because all lineups will be strong, and you want the guys you like.
You're going with Hack Wilson, aren't you?
Wow, USC went with Raines. He's coming off a mediocre season, I was considering him for my 3rd round pick, and I was assuming he'd be there.
I have faith in the Rock. I think that he wasn't getting high quality stuff last season, and that contributed to some of his problems. I have...connections...that I think will help him big time this season.
please tell me we wont have to wait three hours for fknmclane's pick.
OK
I know Gooden was money for Teddy last year, but IMO that's too high to draft a pitcher, he will be feeling the pressure from those expectations.
I would like to submit that my team be named "The Unholy Legions of Doom". Same uniforms and skin color as in previous seasons, however.
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Announcer: Welcome back to "Pardon the Interruption". Sponsored by "Rocky VI, crapping on glass tables next summer. And by Sharpie pens - everyone likes to steal them from the office, so why don't you?
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Tony Kornheiser: Alright, let's discuss The OC's strategy of drafting Dwight Gooden in the second round. I think that Teddy has basically lost his mind. Seriously, I think he's been huffing or something. I mean, I know he won the Cy Young last year, but pitching doesn't make a difference in this league. You have to load up on big sticks.
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Michael Wilbon: As usual, Tony, you're absolutely wrong. A good pitcher can still have a huge impact. It might be the difference between giving up five runs versus eight runs, but that's still three runs. And look at who won the World Series last year – pitching matters.
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TK: Pitching doesn't put butts in the seats – hitting does. The OC kind of flew under the radar last season – they're going to have a big target on their chests this season. And it was Jorge Bell that carried them in the playoffs last season – I can't believe Teddy let him slip away.
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MW: Let him slip away? He picked up Andre Dawson in his place! They have the reigning Cy Young winner AND the reigning league MVP on the same team! They might not lose one game this whole season – playoffs included!
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TK: What? Now I think you're huffing along with Teddy!
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TK: Dawson chokes in the stretch, and The OC gets knocked out in the first round.
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MW: After the break, we examine fknmclane's unhealthy obsession with Chili Davis and Beefmaster's similar obsession with Clarks.
Fighon, back in full form
good work, sc. i have a certain draft strategy that i'm trying to follow. we'll see how it turns out.
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 10/27/05, 11:35:30 AM
please tell me we wont have to wait three hours for fknmclane's pick.
Good pick by Ult in the American League, I was hoping Bench would fall to the second for me as I think having a good catcher is pretty important.
I'm the secret weapon for the OC. I'm the guy behind the guy behind the guy
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Really, I'm disappointed that Jerald Clark isn't in the original RBI.
Or Clark Griswold.
fkn Shooty, stealing Dirty Brookens out from under my nose. Those Canadians, they are shifty, I tell ya.
And you to, Baines...Geena was going to be my "steal" selection. All he does is hit doubles.
sorry about the delay guys, it's close to closing here at work and i also had to get a bunch of paperwork signed here. also you hosers took all the god catchers so i had to refigure everything
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 10/27/05, 04:52:56 PM
sorry about the delay guys, it's close to closing here at work and i also had to get a bunch of paperwork signed here. also you hosers took all the god catchers so i had to refigure everything
Shiva was a catcher? I always assumed that she would be a middle infielder.
yeah, after the gods are gone, it's just the titans and then all the humans... kinda sucks.
Where does Kevin Sorbo fit in?
Quote from: BeeJay on 10/27/05, 05:47:32 PM
Where does Kevin Sorbo fit in?
Lucy Lawless.
Oh!
im going home now. i may not be able to get back on tonight, and i will return by 9am pacific time. at this time i can't proxy because you guys took all my "gods" i was going to pick, so i'll have to rethink my strategy and give my best shots at picks #60, 61.
Rookie question here, but are we drafting bench players?
If yes:
Then if you draft a fourth outfielder, does he have to be on the bench?
If no:
Then what happens if you draft a fourth outfielder?
Yes, we draft all 16 players, so you may have 5 or 6 OFs but some will be on your bench.
The real question is, what happens if you only draft 3 IF or no C, are you kicked out of the league?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/28/05, 10:25:51 AM
Yes, we draft all 16 players, so you may have 5 or 6 OFs but some will be on your bench.
The real question is, what happens if you only draft 3 IF or no C, are you kicked out of the league?
I think we just disallow illegal picks - you can have no more than 4 non-starting players. For example, if someone has 7 OFs and tries to draft another one, they have to pick someone else (since the 4 extras would fill up the bench). The same applies if we're at the end and the person needs another RP - that would be the only legal pick, and if he tried to take an OF, we'd make him repick while mocking him mercilessly.
Yes, but it is conceivable that all catchers could be gone before a player makes their last pick.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/28/05, 10:39:36 AM
Yes, but it is conceivable that all catchers could be gone before a player makes their last pick.
Yes, there should be a rule of only one catcher per team.
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 10/28/05, 10:44:24 AM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/28/05, 10:39:36 AM
Yes, but it is conceivable that all catchers could be gone before a player makes their last pick.
Yes, there should be a rule of only one catcher per team.
That would be unpossible
Forget it, I asnwered my own question.
Which teams should have less than 4 reserves?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/28/05, 10:57:34 AM
Which teams should have less than 4 reserves?
Yours
I think those teams with less than 4 reserves should get a completely random pick of all the batters already drafted. so you could actually have Jim Rice as your fourth bench guy. Just a thought
I'm dumb
Here's how it will work - if there are two teams left that each only have drafted three IF, then we don't allow other teams to draft IF once there are only two left.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/28/05, 10:25:51 AM
Yes, we draft all 16 players, so you may have 5 or 6 OFs but some will be on your bench.
The real question is, what happens if you only draft 3 IF or no C, are you kicked out of the league?
in this case, you allow pedro to play 1B
One interesting thing we can start considering is if some players are just good fantasy players. Blank Morris had a very solid season last year, if he does it again is it still a fluke? I've considered last seasons sucess/failure with many of my picks. Can Dawson hit over .700 again?
He'd better
discostu is efforting gerlost right now. it's gerlost for 2 and back to baines.
Quote from: Teddyballgame on 10/31/05, 11:30:36 AM
discostu is efforting gerlost right now. it's gerlost for 2 and back to baines.
I do not believe this is a word. Or, at least, it shouldn't be.
If it is a word, I don't think I want to know what it means, or how Teddy knows that Gerlost is doing it with Stu.
Ultimate angry, ultimate about to piss people off with his pick.
Why does mclane always leave the forums right when it is his turn to pick?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/31/05, 04:02:32 PM
Ultimate angry, ultimate about to piss people off with his pick.
just punch yourself in the face, man.... everything will be alright.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/31/05, 04:02:32 PM
Ultimate angry, ultimate about to piss people off with his pick.
With the 8th pick of round 8, ultimate7 selects Stevo.
i'm going home. i should be back on by 4:30 pacific. if not, i'll definitely be on tonight to make my wraparound picks, so don't worry too much, ult.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 10/31/05, 04:04:07 PM
Why do I always leave the forums right when it is my turn to pick?
Welcome back to ESPN's exclusive coverage of the Fantasy RBI Baseball Draft. Brought to you by McDonald's: "Heart disease? I'm lovin' it!" And by Squirt cola: "With a name like Squirt, it has to be good."
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Chris Berman: Welcome back to coverage of the Fantasy RBI Baseball Draft. Now, there's been quite a bit of controversy about The Nimrods' selection of Tony Pena "Colada". I'm joined by ESPN's expert in all drafts, Mel Kiper, Jr. Mel, what's the issue here?
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Mel Kiper: Chris, the issue is that Nimrods GM Ultimate7 went ahead and drafted Pena even though he already had a starting catcher on his roster. And in doing so, he passed up other position players that rated higher that could have gone on his bench. The suspicion is that he did this to keep The Unholy Legions of Doom and The OC from getting Pena, forcing them to start a much weaker catcher.
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Berman: But this is all within the rules, right?
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Kiper: It is, but is it against the spirit of the rules? In my mind, you should be trying to better your team, not make other teams worse. He left quality players on the table – including some elite starting pitchers – to go after a catcher when that really only impacted two teams.
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Berman: RBI Baseball Tonight analyst and RBI player John "I Am Not A" Kruk has a different take on this. John?
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John Kruk: First off, I'm an infielder, not an outfielder. I can't believe that the commissioner's office blew something that basic. But in terms of Ultimate7's actions, I think that's just good, solid GMing. If you can damage two of your rivals, why not do it? Pena's not a bad addition to your bench, and perhaps you can deal a crippling blow to a couple of teams, including the defending champion. And by the way, this two GM thing is not working – how do two GMs let themselves get worked out of a chance of having any decent starting catcher?
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Berman: Let's go now via the OnStar Hotline to The Unholy Legions of Doom's GM and owner Beefmaster. Beefy, what's your opinion on what Ultimate7 did?
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Beefmaster: It's just outrageous, Chris. I mean, this fuc...excuse me, flippin' guy comes along and drafts a second catcher right before I'm going to take Tony Pena. There's no reason for him to do that, unless he's trying to damage my team and The OC. I just think it's sad that Ultimate7 has to try and hurt other teams because he knows that his team, once again, will choke in the clitch.
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Berman: Strong words there. I should point out that he contacted Ultimate7 for an interview, but we were told he was busy in the Nimrods war room punching himself in the face.
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Kiper: Let me just jump in here, Chris. Beefmaster, I have to say that the biggest problem I see with what happened is how you reacted? I mean, Marc Sullivan? That's a complete panic selection, in my opinion, and that's the reason that you're drafting where you are instead of where The Nimrods draft.
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Beefmaster: Mel, my postman knows more about Fantasy RBI Baseball than you do. I mean, have you ever worn a jockstrap before while playing RBI Baseball? Well I have! Marc Sullivan was our best option at catcher – it was either him or Alan Ashby!
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Kiper: What about Bill Schroder? What about Steve Lake?
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Beefmaster: What, they were available too? Jesus Chr – um..., I have to go now.
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Berman: Um, well, things are certainly getting heat here. More picks are coming, and we will be back soon with more from the draft.
QuoteI mean, have you ever worn a jockstrap before while playing RBI Baseball?
How did you find out about that?
I'm fairly sure I know USC's next pick based on the proxy list he gave me, but I guess we should wait for him to make it.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 11/01/05, 03:11:58 PM
I'm fairly sure I know USC's next pick based on the proxy list he gave me, but I guess we should wait for him to make it.
That would seem to defeat the purpose of giving someone a proxy list, no?
Well he gave it to me to use on Friday for use Friday and Friday night. Assuming he wants a SP, I know which one he would want (I think). Some of his recent picks haven't followed the list he gave me so I don't want to screw anything up.
i agree with you ult, better wait.
last year nobody picked up witt. i'm glad he's getting a chance this year. (of course with ten teams, everyone will get a chance). i've been thinking he could be one of the better pitchers. we'll see what happens.
I think it's going to be interesting with having 10 teams and no Teams Suck and Blow. I hope this means that we see a lot more trades during the season.
i'm leaving now, but i can't do proxy picks since i'm too controlling and paranoid today as we get to the last rounds. i'll check this again tonight and make a couple selections if i'm up.
Let's talk about the trade:
Nimrods send: Tony Pena and Jack Morris
The Unholy Legions of Doom send: Willie McGee and Don Sutton
I'd say that Ultimate7's strategy of drafting a lot of catchers paid off to some extent. He was able to trade Pena for a far better bench player (McGee), while I think that the pitchers were probably a wash.
However, I think that McGee was available to be drafted when Ultimate7 took Pena, so I don't know if the strategy actually made any difference.
yeah, mcgee was available. you never know what people are willing to trade for though. it was worth a shot. all that being said, taking a THIRD catcher might have been a little over the top.
I felt Ashby was the best hitter left
As far as drafting strategy goes. Once all my pitchers were off the board, I went after Pena because I was pissed, but I knew it would give me trade bait.
I decided I wanted Witt or Sutton with Sutcliffe, and I thought that might happen without drafting pitchers, in the mean time I was able to get better picks for my bench the whole way.
I'm not sure I'd rather have McGee off the bench than Pena, I think it's mostly a wash. I just didn't want Jack Morris, not that I dislike Morris per se, I just think the game vastly underrated him to be the worst watch pitcher, now watch him win Cy Young.
as i've said before, i'm really curious as to what the angels staff could do seeing as they weren't drafted last season. i was not willing to take the risk myself, but i want to see if the way i rank them matches up with their performance.
other thoughts: is there any chance canseco can be as poor this year as he was last year? can buckner repeat his tremendous output?
this is the best part of any baseball season, everybody has a chance.
Can Brookens continue his All-Star level play this season? That's a huge question this season. And will Potatoes be as mediocre as he was last season?
Did Doc go on a coke binge in the offseason or will he return to last season's form?
The answers to all of these questions and more on the next episode of "Soap"!
Winning my award for worst draft pick:
#127 - Donnie Moore
There were plenty of reasonable relief pitchers still left
it's hard to tell which relievers will do well. i'm really curious about all the picthing data we'll see this year and be able to compare it to last year. i believe there was some flukes, but of course i think doc will repeat. only time will tell.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 11/07/05, 03:21:00 PM
Winning my award for worst draft pick:
#127 - Donnie Moore
There were plenty of reasonable relief pitchers still left
blow me!
The Ghost of Donnie Moore will haunt your pansy ass all season long!