Attezz
Babe Ruth
Juan Samuel
Hans Lobert
Ty Cobb
Vince Coleman
Robin Yount
Frank Chance
Paul Konerko
Jake Stahl
Beefmaster
Barry Bonds
Roy Campanella
Rogers Hornsby
Dick Allen
Frank Robinson
Vern Stephens
Dick Stuart
Gus Zernial
Tony Conigliaro
Nacho
Alex Rodriguez
Vladamir Guererro
Joe DiMaggio
Honus Wagner
Andruw Jones
Craig Biggio
Stan Musial
Roger Maris
Eddie Collins
fightonusc
Albert Pujols
Nomar Garciaparra
Jeff Kent
Yogi Berra
George Brett
Lefty O'Doul
Frank Howard
Hack Wilson
Aramis Ramirez
fknmclane
Mickey Mantle
Frank Thomas
David Ortiz
Dean Palmer
Mickey Tettleton
Rocky Colavito
Roberto Alomar
Juan Uribe
Gorman Thomas
Gantry
Ted Williams
Adam Dunn
Eddie Mathews
Reggie Jackson
Jason Giambi
Johnny Mize
Howard Johnson
Rudy York
Delino Deshields
GDavis
Hank Aaron
Jose Canseco
Carlos Delgado
Bob Horner
Cecil Fielder
Jorge Posada
Hank Sauer
Rico Petrocelli
Julio Cruz
Weathermatt
Mark McGwire
Dave Kingman
Juan Gonzalez
Javy Lopez
Jose Valentin
Rob Deer
Tony Batista
Reggie Sanders
Joe Carter
Nomaaa
Manny Ramirez
Gary Sheffield
Miguel Tejada
Brett Boone
Carlton Fisk
Fred McGriff
Dale Murphy
Carl Crawford
Carlos Beltran
Rack
Ralph Kiner
Albert Belle
Chipper Jones
Derek Jeter
Jeff Bagwell
Jimmie Foxx
Ivan Rodriguez
Chuck Klein
Paul Molitor
AlecTrevylan
Lou Gehrig
Willie Mays
Troy Glaus
Johnny Bench
Jimmy Rollins
Jackie Robinson
Ichiro Suzuki
Magglio Ordonez
Ellis Burks
Ryno
Rafael Palmeiro
Mike Schmidt
Ryne Sandberg
Andre Dawson
Cal Ripken Jr
Gary Carter
Eric Davis
Will Clark
Jim Rice
Shooty
Sammy Sosa
Hank Greenberg
Richie Sexson
Matt Williams
Jim Edmonds
Lance Parrish
Tony Womack
Dave Justice
Frank Taveras
Ultimate
Alfonso Soriano
Ernie Banks
Darryl Strawberry
Willie McCovey
Todd Hundley
Willie Stargell
Kevin Mitchell
Duke Snider
Raul Mondesi
BigHath
Jim Thome
Harmon Killebrew
Joe Gordon
Lance Berkman
Greg Vaughn
Jay Buhner
Bobby Bonds
Rafael Furcal
Bill Dickey
Stock
Ken Griffey Jr
Mike Piazza
Larry Walker
Todd Helton
Mo Vaughn
Rickey Henderson
Mel Ott
Joe Morgan
Travis Fryman
Atezz draws the first overall pick.
Drafting order was determined by a random number generator. 16th pick in the first round gets the 1st pick in the second and so on (ie.. After the first round, 1 & 16 will get two picks in a row). I will do my best to keep a running tab in the first post of this thread.
When the draft is complete, you must have a line-up with a valid player for each position + a DH which can be any player.
There is no need to declare the position when drafting. When the draft is over you will be asked for 1) your line-up, 2) The position for each player in your line-up, 3) Which hand you would like any switch hitters to bat, and your team colors. If you make an error (ie.. you draft 6 outfielders), you will be forced to correct your team with the remaining undrafted players.
YOU WILL HAVE 24 HOURS TO MAKE YOUR DRAFT PICK AFTER THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU DRAFTS. Hopefully most drafting will take this long, but wanted to accommodate everyone's busy schedules. If you think you will not be online in the course of 24 hours, please send me/someone proxy picks or appoints someone to draft in your place.
Please reference the attached spreadsheet when drafting so you will know what their "RBI" stats will be and what position they have played. Each player is eligible for any position listed in the attached file OR any position they played in at least 150 games in their career.
The league will be comprised of 4 divisions. The divisions will be named after the first 4 players drafted. After that, each team needs to pick what division they would like to be in along with their first pick (4 teams total per division).
Each team will play every team in their division 6 times, and every other team 2 times.
Schedule will be posted after the draft.
Each division winner along with 2 wildcards will advance to the playoffs which will be played out similar to the NFC Championship playoff structure in the NFL. The first 2 rounds will honor home field advantage to the top seed in all games in a best of 3 series. The Championship will be a best of 5 series alternating home field advantage with the top seed getting the 1st and 5th game if necessary. All seeds will be determined by overall record, with the 4 division winners are gauranteed seeds 1-4. Tiebreakers in order will be head-to-head, runs/AB, Batting Average, and Slugging.
Game Play: Will be the same as last year's league. I will be playing offense for both teams against weakenned pitching. All pitchers for all teams will have the same attributes. Strikeouts, Walks, and Errors are turned off and I will not be stealing any bases. 10 run rule is in full effect. I will be keeping stats for AB, Hits, doubles, triples, HRs, Batting Average, Slugging, and of course RBIs.
Babe Herman, biotches!
Wow, this looks fucking awesome. That's a ton of work you put into this, Stock.
Couple questions:
1) Is this a complete list of 3,000+ AB players, thus the definitive draft board?
2) What are the asterisks for? Looks like it's all active players, is that all it means?
Wait, I want the Babe (Hermann) who had the second most power and 16 contact.
Quote from: WeatherMatt on 01/28/08, 08:53:34 PM
Wow, this looks fucking awesome. That's a ton of work you put into this, Stock.
Couple questions:
1) Is this a complete list of 3,000+ AB players, thus the definitive draft board?
2) What are the asterisks for? Looks like it's all active players, is that all it means?
1) I am hoping it is complete. If there is anyone missing, they need to have 3,000 abs to be eligible. Please PM me their name ahead of time so I can give you their RBI stats. Also, they must be modern day enough players (usually if they played most of their career post 1900 you are good) for MLB.com to have OB% numbers for them.
2) Not sure what the astrisks mean. MLB.com has them by some of the player names. I think it is supposed to mean they are active players, but there are astrix next to some guys that definitely are not active. You can just ignore them.
Quote from: Attezzobal on 01/28/08, 08:55:55 PM
Wait, I want the Babe (Hermann) who had the second most power and 16 contact.
Either you are kidding or you sorted the list wrong.
Babe Herman: 790-power, 16-contact.
Babe Ruth: 995-power, 9-contact.
Please confirm.
I probably sorted wrong, Babe Ruth it is!
Quote from: Attezzobal on 01/29/08, 08:37:57 AM
I probably sorted wrong, Babe Ruth it is!
That's cool. When you said you drafted Babe Herman, I just assumed you were using The Babe's middle name.
Kinda threw me a curve ball.
Barry Bonds
Quote from: GDavis on 01/29/08, 08:26:30 AM
If I'm not around when it's my pick, shoot me an email at matt WATT!@gmail.com
Alex Rodriguez
Sorry guys...I need someone to take over my team or be partners as I won't be able to committ to this over the next few days.
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 01/29/08, 10:10:20 AM
Sorry guys...I need someone to take over my team or be partners as I won't be able to committ to this over the next few days.
Shooty sent me a ranking formula to make his picks.
I will follow the formula to a tee, if he is not around for his picks.
What could possibly be going on in Shooty's life that is more important than a fantasy video game draft?
A live fantasy video game draft.
Apparently the State of the Union thread is more important to fightonusc.
Albert Pujlos
Excellent.
We have our 4 divisions set.
1. Ruth
2. Bonds
3. ARod
4. Pujols
With each remaining draft pick in this round, also pick which Division you would like to be in (4 teams per division).
That was a twist I wasn' expecting
To sweeten the deal to be in the Ruth division with me, my team is gonna be focused on speed!
My team is gonna be focused on prima donnas.
My team is going to be unfocused as a cultural statement on modern society.
My team is going to be focused on Krokus
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7576/krokubb4975863495329830ky1.jpg)
So the top 4 drafters are automatically in the division named after the player they drafted?
Makes sense, but confirmation would be good.
Quote from: WeatherMatt on 01/29/08, 01:15:06 PM
So the top 4 drafters are automatically in the division named after the player they drafted?
Makes sense, but confirmation would be good.
What exactly do you want confirmation on?
Quote from: Stock on 01/28/08, 07:53:42 PM
The league will be comprised of 4 divisions. The divisions will be named after the first 4 players drafted. After that, each team needs to pick what division they would like to be in along with their first pick (4 teams total per division).
Each team will play every team in their division 6 times, and every other team 2 times.
Schedule will be posted after the draft.
Whether or not Attez, Beef, Nacho and USC get to choose their divisions or if they are set in divisions based on who they drafted.
Never mind, Stock posted before I could finish.
Mantle...stick me with Ruth.
Quote from: fknmclane on 01/29/08, 02:18:22 PM
Mantle...stick me with Ruth.
Does that mean you want to be in Attez's division?
I'll take Ted Williams and put me with ARod...
This is the part where I tell Gantry that I hate him. I don't care if Teddy would never have made it to me.
I'm quite shocked that he hasn't been taken yet, do people know more about this secret rating system than I do?
We know he has 926 power, 130 speed and 9 contact, as we saw in the spreadsheet from the first post (or maybe two).
Hammerin' Hank Aaron - OF/1B
And put me in the Pujols division with Man Freddi (oh it's on!)
Wow, surprised Big Mac slid to me.
Mark McGwire, and random.org says I'll play in the A-Rod division.
Quote from: AlecTrevylan006 on 01/29/08, 02:32:27 PM
We know he has 926 power, 130 speed and 9 contact, as we saw in the spreadsheet from the first post (or maybe two).
I never saw said spreadsheet... I really regret not taking McGwire now...
Quote from: Gantry on 01/29/08, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: AlecTrevylan006 on 01/29/08, 02:32:27 PM
We know he has 926 power, 130 speed and 9 contact, as we saw in the spreadsheet from the first post (or maybe two).
I never saw said spreadsheet... I really regret not taking McGwire now...
It's in the second posting in this thread (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=19222.msg438624#msg438624)
I found it, hence "really regret not taking mcgwire"
This entire draft is a SHAM! Less attentive people did not have access to the same information.
I demand a new draft, one in which I get Ted Williams automatically.
Aaron vs Mac was a tough decision, but Hammerin Hank has more speed and contact and is eligible at both OF and 1B.
Quote from: GDavis on 01/29/08, 02:54:43 PM
Aaron vs Mac was a tough decision, but Hammerin Hank has more speed and contact and is eligible at both OF and 1B.
Good call.
Remember my spreadsheet is not complete for all positions a player is eligible for. They are also eligible for any position in which they played at least 150 career games.
I was just trying to help people out....
I went Poo-Holes since I can play him either at 1B or OF. And 1B are harder to find than OF.
Quote from: fightonusc on 01/29/08, 03:38:21 PM
I went Poo-Holes since I can play him either at 1B or OF. And 1B are harder to find than OF.
I'm not sure I agree with that.
I saw Nomaaa online.
Now he disappeared.
manny ramirez and pul me int eh ruth division
Sure, take my other favorite Red Sox of all time.
Why don't you jam that barbed wire cathoder further :-/
Spike Owen is still available.
Quote from: Stock on 01/29/08, 06:16:19 PM
Spike Owen is still available.
Nah, that's more of a sulfuric acid enema
Shit. Manny was my pick. Gimmie a few.
Ralph Kiner (OF)
Lou Gehrig, in the poo-hole
I was going to go with Gehrig, but I have him in the All-Time league that Ace is never going to start.
Quote from: Racktacular on 01/29/08, 07:31:32 PM
Ralph Kiner (OF)
What division would you like to be in?
Oh yeah.
Everyone is scared of Beef. I'll take him on!
Quote from: Racktacular on 01/29/08, 08:34:30 PM
Oh yeah.
Everyone is scared of Beef. I'll take him on!
You just want the chance to beat up on the "cheater".
maybe
Yo', stock, how bout editing a division list into the first post for the last few guys, make it a bit easier?
My team will dominate in the key statistical categories of hat size and bacne.
j foxx
by proxy, Shooty selects Sammmmmy Sosaaaaaa
Alfonso Soriano
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/30/08, 07:02:49 AM
Alfonso Soriano
That is an outstanding pick, and thought he would have slipped down to me. 2B tallent runs dry very fast.
What division do you want to be in?
Quote from: ryno on 01/29/08, 11:54:39 PM
j foxx
What Division do yo want to be in?
just got into work, gimme a sec
oops forgot, I'll go Ruth division
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/30/08, 07:09:42 AM
oops forgot, I'll go Ruth division
The "Ruth" Division is set.
Attezz, fknmclane, nomaa, & Ultimate
James Howard Thome
and put me in the Pujols division
Quote from: Big Hath on 01/30/08, 07:16:56 AM
James Howard Thome
and put me in the Pujols division
The "Pujols" Division is set:
Fighton, GDavis, AlecTrevylan, & Big Hath.
I will take Ken Griffey Jr and Mike Piazza.
Ryno and I will be in the "Bonds" division with Rack and Beefmaster.
Shooty will be in the "AROD" divsion with Nacho, Gantry, and Weathermatt.
Hath, you are up again.
Harmon "Killer" Killebrew
Ernie Banks
I'll take Hank "The Jew" Greenberg
Via Email, Ryno selects Mike Schmidt.
AlecTravylan is up.
Willie Mays, not of the Hayes variety
Also, no base stealing makes me a sad panda, and really screws over guys like Cobb
Quote from: AlecTrevylan006 on 01/30/08, 09:54:34 AM
Willie Mays, not of the Hayes variety
Also, no base stealing makes me a sad panda, and really screws over guys like Cobb
However, you will notice the compensation made to these guys' speed stats. They will get a ton more IF hits, triples, and will be nearly impossible to double up.
I decided not to have stolen bases since against the computer you can steal 2nd base pretty much whenever you want even with a slightly below average speed guy.
*sigh* fair enough I guess...
Albert Belle (OF)
Quote from: GDavis on 01/30/08, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 01/30/08, 08:41:15 AM
I'll take Hank "The Jew" Greenberg
You SOB
Don't worry, Shawn Green and Rod Carew's agent are still available.
this 16 team draft is insane, 25 players go off the boards between my picks
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/30/08, 11:02:14 AM
this 16 team draft is insane, 25 players go off the boards between my picks
Try to relax U7. We'll make it through this together. :thumbsup:
what do the asterisks mean?
Quote from: nomaaa on 01/30/08, 12:47:20 PM
what do the asterisks mean?
Not sure exactly. There are just next to some of the names when I copied them over from mlb.com.
I think they are supposed to mean they are still active players or something.
gary sheffield
Weathermatt selects Dave Kingman via proxy.
GDavis is on the clock.
I'll take Jose Canseco
Adam Dunn - OF
(http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/images/2005/03/11/L5mFp6Qy.jpg)
So basically, you just picked the equivalent of RBI Darrell Evans, but with less power and about 80% worse contact?
I can't believe he fell that far
I accidentally crossed him off my list :'(
I'd really like my team if I actually, you know, figured out that there was a spreadsheet and drafted McGwire in the 1st round...
I'll take the Big Hurt.
Nomar
fuck you man.
Quote from: nomaaa on 01/30/08, 05:05:26 PM
fuck you man.
I think his strategy is to rape you in a trade after the draft.
fine by me.
Vlad
Beefmaster selects Roy Campanella via proxy.
Atezz has 2 picks coming.
Before I pick, can somebody explain what the asterisks mean?
Just fucking with ya.
I take Juan Samuels, 2b, and HANS Lobert, 3b extraordinaire.
Beefmaster selects Rogers Hornsby via proxy.
Nacho is on the clock.
Damn, I wanted Hornsby.
I'll take DiMaggio.
Jeff Kent
Thanks for waiting for me assholes. I'll just wait till somebody disappears so I can take over a team again.
Fuck, so I'm all over europe for a few days and come back to see this? I knew I should have visited dee nee during my swing around europe fighting the establishment.
Quote from: The Dark Side on 01/31/08, 12:08:26 PM
Thanks for waiting for me assholes. I'll just wait till somebody disappears so I can take over a team again.
Fuck, so I'm all over europe for a few days and come back to see this? I knew I should have visited dee nee during my swing around europe fighting the establishment.
If you check with Shooty, he may be willing to give you (or at least co-manage) his team.
Aparently he has some other important things going on in his life right now.
I almost took Hornsby with my second round pick... argh...
I'll take Fatty Ortiz. He's available, right?
He's also a DH only... Are we going to let him play 1B?
Quote from: Nacho on 01/31/08, 03:40:45 PM
He's also a DH only... Are we going to let him play 1B?
This league has rules, according to those rules, Ortiz can play 1B.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/31/08, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 01/31/08, 03:40:45 PM
He's also a DH only... Are we going to let him play 1B?
This league has rules, according to those rules, Ortiz can play 1B.
As long as he has played in at least 150 games at 1st base, he is eligible.
If not.....
Are we drafting 12 deep (as in RBI)?
No. 9 starters, and that's it - with the DH, there's no need for pinch hitters (I assume Stock either maxes out or minimizes pitchers' stamina).
Quote from: Stock on 01/31/08, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 01/31/08, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: Nacho on 01/31/08, 03:40:45 PM
He's also a DH only... Are we going to let him play 1B?
This league has rules, according to those rules, Ortiz can play 1B.
As long as he has played in at least 150 games at 1st base, he is eligible.
If not.....
he has by a pretty large margin.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/31/08, 04:23:46 PM
No. 9 starters, and that's it - with the DH, there's no need for pinch hitters (I assume Stock either maxes out or minimizes pitchers' stamina).
Beefmaster has it.
Last year for pitchers, they all got a 0 rating for curves and sinkers. Curve & Fast speed equal to 130. Sinker speed equal to 95. Stamina 99. No sidearm pitchers. Strikeouts and walks turned off.
The only pitcher attribute you will have control over is whichever batter you choose to bat in the 9th spot will be the hand of your teams pitcher. .... but shouldn't really matter.
Your intent should be to put together the best offensive team possible in a "straight pitch" style format, as that is what I am trying to recreate.
Ah, didn't know that. Almost totally eliminates the need for good contact.
Quote from: Nacho on 01/31/08, 04:33:16 PM
Ah, didn't know that. Almost totally eliminates the need for good contact.
To some extent. I will still be swinging at most strikes, so don't expect I am good enough to get the sweet spot with every swing. On pitches on the corner of the plate, I am not sure it is even possible to hit the sweet spot.
So you are actually playing this? Either I didn't read this right or I am taking in a lot of new info.
Quote from: Nacho on 01/31/08, 04:50:53 PM
So you are actually playing this? Either I didn't read this right or I am taking in a lot of new info.
Yes. The offense will be done exactly like last year's.
http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=19206.msg438151#msg438151
I will be playing offense for both teams in every game. The computer will be playing defense for both teams in every game. (picture a watch-game mode where I keep switching controllers b/w innings).
Eddie Mathews (3B)
Big Hurt
Delgado
Juan Gonzalez
miguel tejada
Chipper Jones-3B. Bat him lefty please.
Damnit, Chipper was my pick.
I'll take whatever third baseman has the most power rather than actually investigating. T. Glaus IIRC...
Quote from: AlecTrevylan006 on 02/01/08, 02:56:19 PM
Damnit, Chipper was my pick.
I'll take whatever third baseman has the most power rather than actually investigating. T. Glaus IIRC...
It would have to be Troy Glaus. He has the 2nd most power left, and Sexson has not played much 3rd base.
Ryno selects Ryno via proxy.
Not sure what Shooty's status is.
He gave me a list of proxy picks a while ago, but unsure if he is willing to draft his DH already.
I will give him a half hour or so to make a pick and then I will make his next proxy pick for him.
I'm beginning to wonder whether taking Sandberg in the first round of any draft and then demand ransom to trade him to Ryno is a viable option.
Since the next two guys on Shooty's proxy list are 1st basemen, I hope he is ok with my pick for him.
One of his first basemen will have to be his DH.
He selects Richie Sexson via proxy.
The good news is, he is the last guy left with 900+ power.
Shooty, please send me a PM if you would like me to change your drafting strategy going forward.
How many other teams besides me have 3 guys at 900+?
It's not how much power you have, it is how you use it.
Darryl Strawberry
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/01/08, 04:03:01 PM
It's not how much power you have, it is how you use it.
I'm hoping to use it by hitting home runs
Quote from: Stock on 02/01/08, 03:57:18 PM
Since the next two guys on Shooty's proxy list are 1st basemen, I hope he is ok with my pick for him.
One of his first basemen will have to be his DH.
He selects Richie Sexson via proxy.
The good news is, he is the last guy left with 900+ power.
Shooty, please send me a PM if you would like me to change your drafting strategy going forward.
Greenberg played over 150 games in the OF so can't I use him there and have Sexson as 1B?
^^^^
Well, we are cool then.
Holding sndbrg for ransom would have worked.
Joe "Flash" Gordon
Stock chose via proxy:
Larry Walker and Todd Helton.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/01/08, 10:09:29 PM
Stock chose via proxy:
Larry Walker and Todd Helton.
Thanks!
Big Hath up again.
Quote from: GDavis on 02/01/08, 04:01:21 PM
How many other teams besides me have 3 guys at 900+?
Shooty, Weathermatt, & fknmclane.
Lance "Big Puma" Berkman
Jimmie Foxx is on the trading block
Willie Mccovey
MWilliams 3B
you say foxx is on the block.
for a pick or what?
I'll give my next pick for foxx.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/02/08, 07:36:58 PM
I'll give my next pick for foxx.
Me too.
.... or Todd Helton.
Troy Glaus and my next pick for Foxx and your sixth round pick >_>
dawson
Foxx is on the trading block.
I'll wait til someone drafts Mark Grace then trade Foxx to them.
J. Bench
Quote from: ryno on 02/03/08, 12:13:20 AM
Foxx is on the trading block.
I'll wait til someone drafts Mark Grace then trade Foxx for last place.
Lance Berkman-OF
Bat him lefty please.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/03/08, 09:57:04 AM
Lance Berkman-OF
Bat him lefty please.
Picked already.
ahhh crap. hold on.
Derek Jeter- SS
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/03/08, 11:36:56 AM
Derek Jeter- SS
shit. end the draft now. Rack's team will win it all.
bret boone
Bah, was hoping Boone would make it back to me.
Javy Lopez
Quote from: WeatherMatt on 02/03/08, 04:33:18 PM
Bah, was hoping Boone would make it back to me.
Javy Lopez
me too. thankfully he did.
Bob Horner 1b/3b
so, GDavis, how about that trade proposal?
I'm very serious about it.
Quote from: ryno on 02/03/08, 09:48:22 PM
so, GDavis, how about that trade proposal?
I'm very serious about it.
It's a possibility. Will you give me time to see who I get with my next pick before I decide?
No problem at all.
Give me Potatoes, POOYAN!
You want gravy with that?
I'll take the always fearsome, Dean Palmer.
Yogi Berra
Honus Wagner
Quote from: Nacho on 02/04/08, 11:34:29 AM
Honus Wagner
Are you trying to make Attez cry?
Dick Allen
Honus Wagner
Or Ty Cobb and Vince Coleman
My team sucks.
you are making your team suck for some reason. Perhaps you'll be the STL Cardinals of the SATRBIL (Stock All-Time RBI League).
Or perhaps I'll get 3 infield hits, a grand slam, then two infield hits and a triple EVERY SINGLE INNING!!
Q: Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio?
A: To BeefMaster's team, in round 5 of the Stock Fantasy Draft.
Corrected:
A: To Nacho's team, in round 3 of the Stock Fantasy Draft
Since Beef wasn't paying adequate attention, can I just draft now before he steals who I want to pick?
I think if we instituted a rule that says, "if you select someone already picked then the draft goes on without you, although you can pick at any time". I think that would make sure you double check Stock's updated page 1 selections beforehand. I messed up once. Beef just did. I would think it is only going to get worse from this point forward. Plus with 24 hours to pick, said culprit may not know about it.
Dammit... I did searches for the other positions I was considering, and forgot to do it for the outfielders. I apologize for being an idiot.
Frank Robinson.
Nice pick. I passed him up for Jeter and I'm not sure if it was the right move.
And I almost goofed and tried taking Sheffield (long gone) and then Strawberry...
I'll take Andruw Jones.
I'm still a big fan of the Steve Lake rule (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=5305.400), myself, which I don't think has gotten nearly the attention it deserves.
George Brett
i hope stock likes hitting with righties.
He's a centrist
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/04/08, 04:13:57 PM
He's a centrist
i thought he was playing offense, not defense.
Cecil Fielder.
Damn, that's who I meant to pick, then forgot. Surprised he fell this far.
I think that gives mclane 3 1st basemen, though Fielder did somehow play 2 games at 2B he can't use him there
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/04/08, 08:33:50 PM
I think that gives mclane 3 1st basemen, though Fielder did somehow play 2 games at 2B he can't use him there
Yeah that does give McLane 3 1B. I think Cecil should be added back to the FA pool and he should pick again.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/04/08, 11:02:14 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/04/08, 08:33:50 PM
I think that gives mclane 3 1st basemen, though Fielder did somehow play 2 games at 2B he can't use him there
Yeah that does give McLane 3 1B. I think Cecil should be added back to the FA pool and he should pick again.
This makes sense to me.
Also, fknmclane is a fuckin' dolt...
Cecil Fielder added back to the free agent pool.
McLane, please pick again.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/04/08, 01:35:27 PM
I think if we instituted a rule that says, "if you select someone already picked then the draft goes on without you, although you can pick at any time". I think that would make sure you double check Stock's updated page 1 selections beforehand. I messed up once. Beef just did. I would think it is only going to get worse from this point forward. Plus with 24 hours to pick, said culprit may not know about it.
I agree. Going forward, if there is a mix up in a person's draft pick (weather they draft someone that has already been drafted, or they draft and ineligible player due to duplicate positions), the draft will move on.
The team that is skipped may make their next pick any time they see fit before their next pick, or they will just draft 2 players on their next pick.
Sound fair??
Sounds fair to me, although I'd lean toward waiting for McLane since this wasn't in effect when he picked.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 08:16:36 AM
Sounds fair to me, although I'd lean toward waiting for McLane since this wasn't in effect when he picked.
Agreed.
Quote from: Stock on 02/05/08, 05:07:51 AM
Going forward
Quote from: Stock on 02/05/08, 08:20:26 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 08:16:36 AM
Sounds fair to me, although I'd lean toward waiting for McLane since this wasn't in effect when he picked.
Agreed.
But the not having 3 first baseman rule WAS in effect. Let's move on.
Quote from: Shooty Babitt on 02/05/08, 09:32:32 AM
Quote from: Stock on 02/05/08, 08:20:26 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 08:16:36 AM
Sounds fair to me, although I'd lean toward waiting for McLane since this wasn't in effect when he picked.
Agreed.
But the not having 3 first baseman rule WAS in effect. Let's move on.
Agreed.
Mickey Tettleton.
Cunts.
Giambi...
I'll take Big Daddy Cecil.
Ryno, I'm not going to be able to do that deal because now I have too many 1Bs (cecil and delgado)
Jose Valentin, hooray 2B eligibility!
EDIT: Oh yeah, bat him lefty.
I probably should've asked before we started drafting, but will the pitchers be righties or lefties?
Quote from: GDavis on 02/05/08, 12:22:58 PM
I probably should've asked before we started drafting, but will the pitchers be righties or lefties?
It'll depend on what hand your #9 hitter bats with.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 01:02:56 PM
Quote from: GDavis on 02/05/08, 12:22:58 PM
I probably should've asked before we started drafting, but will the pitchers be righties or lefties?
It'll depend on what hand your #9 hitter bats with.
Oh my, an interesting twist!
Are we allowed to do a (simple flip-flop) based on who our opponent is?
Quote from: John Kerry on 02/05/08, 01:04:39 PM
Are we allowed to do a (simple flip-flop) based on who our opponent is?
well played
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 01:02:56 PM
Quote from: GDavis on 02/05/08, 12:22:58 PM
I probably should've asked before we started drafting, but will the pitchers be righties or lefties?
It'll depend on what hand your #9 hitter bats with.
Is this true?
yes, Stock said it in some post
Found it:
Quote from: Stock on 01/31/08, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/31/08, 04:23:46 PM
No. 9 starters, and that's it - with the DH, there's no need for pinch hitters (I assume Stock either maxes out or minimizes pitchers' stamina).
Beefmaster has it.
Last year for pitchers, they all got a 0 rating for curves and sinkers. Curve & Fast speed equal to 130. Sinker speed equal to 95. Stamina 99. No sidearm pitchers. Strikeouts and walks turned off.
The only pitcher attribute you will have control over is whichever batter you choose to bat in the 9th spot will be the hand of your teams pitcher. .... but shouldn't really matter.
Your intent should be to put together the best offensive team possible in a "straight pitch" style format, as that is what I am trying to recreate.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/05/08, 01:37:42 PM
Found it:
Quote from: Stock on 01/31/08, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 01/31/08, 04:23:46 PM
No. 9 starters, and that's it - with the DH, there's no need for pinch hitters (I assume Stock either maxes out or minimizes pitchers' stamina).
Beefmaster has it.
Last year for pitchers, they all got a 0 rating for curves and sinkers. Curve & Fast speed equal to 130. Sinker speed equal to 95. Stamina 99. No sidearm pitchers. Strikeouts and walks turned off.
The only pitcher attribute you will have control over is whichever batter you choose to bat in the 9th spot will be the hand of your teams pitcher. .... but shouldn't really matter.
Your intent should be to put together the best offensive team possible in a "straight pitch" style format, as that is what I am trying to recreate.
Interesting.
Stock, FYI, Chuck Knoblauch pitches sidearm.
Quote from: GDavis on 02/05/08, 02:09:52 PM
Stock, FYI, Chuck Knoblauch pitches sidearm.
Does that make it easier to plunk Olbermann's mother?
Care to make another reference that I won't get Man Freddy? Maybe something about college sports?
For GDavis, who clearly is a Yankees historian... (http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2000/0617/590292.html)
Quote from: fightonusc on 02/05/08, 02:18:48 PM
For GDavis, who clearly is a Yankees historian... (http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2000/0617/590292.html)
I don't remember seeing this on YES network's Yankeeography
Where the hell in Nomaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I'm fkn ready to pick!
Quote from: GDavis on 02/05/08, 01:04:39 PM
Are we allowed to do a (simple flip-flop) based on who our opponent is?
I am only going to allow 3 opportunities to switch a lineup throughout the season. (There will be an 18 week season + playoffs).
1. After Week 6 is complete.
2. After Week 12 is complete.
3. After week 18 is complete (ie.. before the playoffs start)
I am already going to be playing 300+ games, not including playoffs as well as keeping team and player stats up to date on a weekly basis. I don't need to be wasting any time constantly altering ROMs.
This draft was moving along at a decent pace until mclane drafted his 6th 1st basemen
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/05/08, 02:44:53 PM
Where the hell in Nomaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I'm fkn ready to pick!
i wonder if he has class?
i probably should have made my pick while my teacher was in the exam room.
carlton fisk
Jeff Bagwell-1B
um... Jimmy Rollins I guess?
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/05/08, 04:13:06 PM
This draft was moving along at a decent pace until mclane drafted his 6th 1st basemen
Don't worry, I doubt this will be the first time I've brought it to a screeching halt.
Quote from: fknmclane on 02/05/08, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/05/08, 04:13:06 PM
This draft was moving along at a decent pace until mclane drafted his 6th 1st basemen
Don't worry, I doubt this will be the first time I've brought it to a screeching halt.
Don't you mean "I doubt this will be the
last time..."?
Dolt.
Cal Ripken
JEdmonds OF
Todd Hundley
Quote from: fightonusc on 02/05/08, 05:54:16 PM
Quote from: fknmclane on 02/05/08, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/05/08, 04:13:06 PM
This draft was moving along at a decent pace until mclane drafted his 6th 1st basemen
Don't worry, I doubt this will be the first time I've brought it to a screeching halt.
Don't you mean "I doubt this will be the last time..."?
Dolt.
Is that two dolts I've received from fighton in this thread? I'm on fire.
Gregory Lamont Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Rickey Henderson
Jay "Bone" Buhner
Quote from: Big Hath on 02/06/08, 07:25:19 AM
Jay "Bone" Buhner
I'll trade you Ken Phelps for him.
Willie Stargell
Lance Parrish C
Jesus Christ . . . ..I mean, Gary Carter
Quote from: GDavis on 02/06/08, 08:06:46 AM
Quote from: Big Hath on 02/06/08, 07:25:19 AM
Jay "Bone" Buhner
I'll trade you Ken Phelps for him.
Well, Buhner was a good prospect, no question about it. But my baseball people loved Ken Phelps' bat. They kept saying "Ken Phelps, Ken Phelps."
Jerry this is Frank Costanza. Mr. Steinbrenner's here. George is dead. Call me back.
J Robinson
Raffy Palmeiro-1B
gimme the crime dogg.
Rob Deer, and holy crap my team's gonna have the worse contact ever. Can I draft MikeD from Bonny's league next?
Larry Walker
fuck!
I'll take Jorge Posada (lefty)
Give me Johnny Mize (DH)
Thanks to Gantry for bringing an error in my spreadsheet to my attention.
In case anyone was actually interested in "D Johnson (1B/2B)" from my spreadsheet, HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR 2B. He is eligible for 1B & 3B.
This is Deron Johnson 1960-1976 (mostly Reds/Phillies).
Had someone picked him unknowingly (ie.. trusting the accuracy of the spreasheet I posted), I would have let slide.
However, consider it corrected.
TRADE MADE between Rack and Ryno
Rack gives Raffy Palmeiro and his 8th pick to Ryno for Jimmie Foxx and his 9th pick.
Thanks for trading for Foxx, I didn't have the heart to tell Ryno that I'd have to be on drugs to approve a Foxx/McGwire swap, straight up.
I requested that Trade before I realized how insanely good McGwire was in this league.
and no one has to tell me how well rack made out in this trade.
Poorly.
I made out poorly? OK.
I'd say Rack made out damn well.
He essentially got 52 power points, 4 speed points, and 15 contact points by just giving up an 8th for a 9th pick.
Or he really just got a 1st and 9th pick by giving up a 6th & 8th pick.
It will be up to Rack/Ryno to keep track of their picks.
Ryno, what do you have against Foxx? I don't know you to be that much of a Palmeiro fan to give up so much for him.
I decided to go a different route with my team. .. .. . .and I think I needed a lefty.
Jesus ryno
Ryno wants all players from the 80's
Quote from: ryno on 02/07/08, 07:19:03 AM
I decided to go a different route with my team. .. .. . .and I think I needed a lefty.
lol. Spoken like a true GM.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/07/08, 08:18:23 AM
Ryno wants all players from the 80's
Shhhhhhhhh!
Looks like this draft came to a halt again. Who's pick is it? Oh yeah, McFknLane's.
I figured Ryno would shun Palmeiro, given that whole debacle with Sandberg's wife.
Colavito
Lefty O'Doul
Quote from: fightonusc on 02/07/08, 11:46:22 AM
Lefty O'Doul
I don't see him on Stock's list, did you get a stat conversion?
he's on the list
OK, I found him but now I don't understand why Fighton drafted him. Must be a huge fan of low contact.
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/07/08, 01:04:47 PM
OK, I found him but now I don't understand why Fighton drafted him. Must be a huge fan of low contact.
He'll bat 2-10, but 1 of those hits will be HR's.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/07/08, 01:08:01 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/07/08, 01:04:47 PM
OK, I found him but now I don't understand why Fighton drafted him. Must be a huge fan of low contact.
He'll bat 2-10, but 1 of those hits will be HR's.
Low is good for contact, Rack.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/07/08, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/07/08, 01:08:01 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/07/08, 01:04:47 PM
OK, I found him but now I don't understand why Fighton drafted him. Must be a huge fan of low contact.
He'll bat 2-10, but 1 of those hits will be HR's.
Low is good for contact, Rack.
I know, but at some point the power number outweighs the contact number. So this player will probably pop most hits up and because his power is so low they will be popouts. With the occasional HR.
Since I've probably seen more watch games than anyone in the world, I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing with my team.
Thanks for the help!
BUT THIS SEASON ISN'T WATCH MODE!
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/07/08, 01:57:33 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/07/08, 01:27:04 PM
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/07/08, 01:08:01 PM
Quote from: ultimate7 on 02/07/08, 01:04:47 PM
OK, I found him but now I don't understand why Fighton drafted him. Must be a huge fan of low contact.
He'll bat 2-10, but 1 of those hits will be HR's.
Low is good for contact, Rack.
I know, but at some point the power number outweighs the contact number. So this player will probably pop most hits up and because his power is so low they will be popouts. With the occasional HR.
Are you trying to make Nightwulf's head explode?
I think he's trying to prove that he made out poorly in the trade with Ryno
Quote from: GDavis on 02/07/08, 02:13:10 PM
BUT THIS SEASON ISN'T WATCH MODE!
Yes it is. Stock is a robot. So him batting is just like watch mode. (Also, he's still batting against the shitty computer AI defense, so the same lousy ground balls will still get through the IF for a triple instead of being turned into easy outs by a decent human defender. Eat it, GDavis.)
Quote from: fightonusc on 02/07/08, 02:01:41 PM
Since I've probably seen more watch games than anyone in the world, I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing with my team. I have no life.
Thanks for the help!
Biggio
Can I use him as a catcher? I'd think I should be able to...
I choose Vern Stephens. And Nacho, as long as he played 150 games at catcher (which I'm pretty sure Biggio did), he's eligible there.
Robin Yount
Frank Chance
Didn't check to see if they've already been drafted, draft without me if they were
Nice timing... I just sent proxies to Stock.
Dick Stuart
Musial
Quote from: Nacho on 02/07/08, 04:19:04 PM
Biggio
Yes.
He has caught somewhere near 400 games.
Quote from: Attezzobal on 02/07/08, 04:50:31 PM
Robin Yount
Shit! I knew I should have picked him with my last pick.
I just couldn't pass on the power Mo Vaughn brings to the table.
I can still hope Molitor will slip to me.....
Is anyone interested in running an all-time sim league? For some reason, I think thing will turn out much different with CPU playing CPU.
Frank Howard
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/07/08, 09:25:25 AM
I figured Ryno would shun Palmeiro, given that whole debacle with Sandberg's wife.
Water under bridge.
Who's pick? Oh yeah. McLane.
Trend noted.
Quote from: Racktacular on 02/08/08, 09:04:25 AM
Who's pick? Oh yeah. McLane.
Trend noted.
Oh, that's going in my dee-nee notebook.
Now he's posting in ATG. That's another demerit.
I'm fairly sure he was on ATG last night too. We might have to band mclane from fantasy leagues
That's another demerit, and I'm switching to red ink
Man, if people are upset that a guy with 780 power is taken, it might be time to shore up the middle infield...
Roberto Alomar
Howard Johnson, SHORTSTOP, and make him lefty...
Hank Sauer OF
Tony Batista, also a shortstop.
the hawk
WHERE THE FUCK IS RACK!!![move]
Quote from: nomaaa on 02/08/08, 01:53:40 PM
the hawk
Hey Nomaaa,
Ryno already has Dawson. Was there another "Hawk" you were talking about?
Rack,
Please stop holding up the draft, and pick already!
Ivan Rodriguez- C
how about dale murphy?
stock: i hate you
I thought you picked Ken Harrelson?
that was hath
nomaaaa, don't get old. the eyes are the first to go.
Ichiro
Eric Davis
Tony Womack (you can start engraving my name on the trophy now)
Kevin Mitchell
Bobby Lee Bonds
Mel Ott
Joe Morgan
Rafael Antoni Furcal
Duke Snider
David Justice
Quote from: Stock on 02/09/08, 02:43:42 PM
Mel Ott
Joe Morgan
Cock. Couldn't decide between Ott and I-Rod. Went with I-Rod. Had fingers crossed Ott would get back to me because I knew 100% that I-Rod wouldn't.
(http://www.insidestl.com/webpics/stlsports/willclarkistheking.gif)
Nuschler, Jr 1B / DH
Ryno, remember you get my next pick (which is your last pick).
Should I go with Thad Bosely or Keith Moreland?
Yes.
Hey Ryno,
AlecT's clock will be up at 10:36pm (cst) tonite.
You can feel free to make your pick at that time, if AlecTrevylan does not do so earlier.
you think he really wants Keith Moreland?
Magglio Ordonez
Jim Rice
I'm done and I'm very happy with my team.
carl crawford
Fuckity fuck yourself. Second time you've swiped who I wanted one pick before me.
Reggie Sanders.
Rico Petrocelli SS
take it up with ryno, matt. he's the one who fucked you.
if a=b, and b=c,
then a=c.
Actually, I agreed to the trade that gave Ryno my pick and I wasn't going to take Rice. So a=b, and b=c, and c=d, then a=d.
I hate to do it, but I finally gotta draft a righty because of his power advantage.
Rudy York - Catcher
Quote from: Gantry on 02/11/08, 01:29:01 PM
I hate to do it, but I finally gotta draft a righty because of his power advantage.
Rudy York - Catcher
Power whore.
This one's for Strassy...Juan Uribe.
Quote from: Stock on 02/11/08, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 02/11/08, 01:29:01 PM
I hate to do it, but I finally gotta draft a righty because of his power advantage.
Rudy York - Catcher
Power whore.
I'll be sure to slip you the $20 for leaving him off the catcher list buddy, thanks!
Quote from: Gantry on 02/11/08, 01:50:43 PM
Quote from: Stock on 02/11/08, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 02/11/08, 01:29:01 PM
I hate to do it, but I finally gotta draft a righty because of his power advantage.
Rudy York - Catcher
Power whore.
I'll be sure to slip you the $20 for leaving him off the catcher list buddy, thanks!
I am making so much money taking bribes from people, I feel that I should increase the pot.
...but I won't.
Another $20 comes your way if you can dig up a hidden lefty 2B with 800+ power...
Hack Wilson
Screw you for choosing Hack, I'd been waiting on him since my last pick.
Roger Maris.
Sorry for the delay; completely forgot to check this thread in the late afternoon.
Gus Zernial
Paul Konerko
Jake Stahl
For my final pick, I'll take Tony Conigliaro and hope to avoid beanings.
Attez, Konerko isn't fast. What are you trying to pull here?
DH!!
Eddie Collins
Paul Konerko
I'll allow it
But your Konerko has to go solely for the Petis
Fuck it, I was reading off of the front page, which Stock hadn't updated with your picks (although he did with Beefmaster's and Nacho's).
Give me Aramis Ramirez, then...
Norm Cash
Here we go again...
Delino fkn Deshields, and you go for a Pettis EVERYTIME if first base is open Stock.
I just drafted Vince Coleman with 50 less power points, worst pick ever...
Please tell me Mclane did not seriously draft yet another first baseman and then leave.
Had I known that Attez genuinely wanted to draft a team capable of scoring only 2 runs per game, and that Mclane would have to drop half his drafted team for having too many first basemen, I'd have joined the Ruth division no questions asked.
Holy shit, he did draft another first baseman!
I can't tell you how Furious George I am for taking that sack Deshields. At the other weak positions I was able to find guys with higher power #s wading around in the 1st/OF/3B pool (York & Hojo) but I couldn't find a 2B with even 800 power. Soriano would look good on my team in retrospect...
Don't worry Gantry.
I cannot wait to see who is left for me at SS.
Quote from: WeatherMatt on 02/12/08, 05:51:36 PM
Please tell me Mclane did not seriously draft yet another first baseman and then leave.
I can't stop laughing, that fucking guy. He made USC's pick look brilliant
I'd say a 4th attempt of drafting a 1B gets him on the Dee-Nee milestones thread. Shit, it's the biggest draft debacle since Matt Nokes in my eyes. Unless you want to count my Ted Williams pick in this draft before I knew there was an excel with all the numbers...
Gantry I will make whatever trade is necessary to get Ted Williams from you.
I will in fact trade all of my team for Ted Williams, and have ONLY Williams in the lineup.
Julio Cruz (2b)
Try to hit it to the left side plz
Joe Carter
It's worth mentioning again, my team contact completely blows. Juan Gonzalez, with 29 contact, is my best contact hitter. Holy Christ, that's bad.
You're gonna finish 4th out of 4 in the Ruth division
MARK IT!
Nomaaaaa you going to pick? You've been on this thread twice now. last pick, let's fkn do it already.
Nomaaaaaaaaaaa needs a 3B and I don't. Can I pick?
Not necessarily, Sheffield is easily eligible at third, so he could plug him there and draft a DH.
carlos beltran.
i should pick a 3b to fuck with rack.
You probably should have picked a 3B.
I'll take Chucky Klein (OF)
why?
I swear to all that is holy Norm Cash is listed as an outfielder on the spreadsheet. Seeing that I deleted his name from it, I'll never really know. If I'm an idiot, I'll just take the best available outfielder tomorrow when I get into work (I don't have excel on my home computer...yeah, that's right.)
I rule.
E Burks and I'm done
Paul Molitor- 2B
Ryno is done.
Shooty is up.
Fuck, I had thought Molitor was gone.
F Taveras SS
Raul Mondesi
Man, I miss Raul Mondesi, he has such small feet too.
William Malcolm Dickey
Please replace Norm Cash with Gorman Thomas. He's an outfielder, right? I need one of those, right? Christ...
Dead last player selected is:
Travis Fryman
Quote from: Stock on 02/13/08, 03:47:49 PM
Dead last player selected is:
Kirby Puckett
unsticky?
Quote from: Shooty on 02/15/08, 11:38:12 AM
unsticky?
Yes.
A moderator??
We could probably sticky the "results" thread instead.