Guys, I'm starting to compile the lineups for the post-season ROM. I'm going to use a combination from couple of sites as a default, but I'm going to allow "team experts" to override that as we've done in the past. So, if you so desire, please reply in this thread with:
8 starters
4 bench guys
2 SP
2 RP
I don't need ratings, just lineups.
For AL teams, there's no DH built into the game, but a guy like Big Papi should probably be in the lineup, so feel free to put him in and leave someone else off as the first bench player...basically pretend all AL teams are playing in an NL ballpark.
I'm working on a some other supplemental stuff to go with this ROM, but first things first, the ROM needs to get done. The more lineups I have, the more I can get to the ratings.
Thanks! I'm going to go down the list in order that they are on the ROM, so starting with Arizona, Atlanta, Baltimore, etc...
P.S. I want this to be the best ROM I've done yet, and hopefully with some of the code I wrote to automate some things, I can make a yearly ROM update a reality.
Minnesota
Denard Span
Ben Revere
Joe Mauer
Josh Willingham
Justin Morneau
Trevor Plouffe
Jamey Carroll
Alexi Casilla
Ryan Doumit
Darin Mastroianni
Brian Dozier
Chris Parmelee
Scott Diamond
Sam Deduno or Cole DeVries
Jared Burton
Glen Perkins
Doumit usually starts, but they run a rotation of Morneau, Mauer, and Doumit at C/1B/DH, and this lineup is NL-friendly. If you want to work him in, bench Casilla and leave them short a middle infielder (although it's not bad to have Doumit as a strong bat off the bench). Pedro Florimon replaced Dozier on the roster for the last month and a half of the season, so if you're trying to reflect how they ended the year and not the season as a whole, you could do the same.
This is a surprisingly decent team - decent lineup (speed on top, power in the middle), great relievers, and while the starting pitching is what killed the Twins this year, picking just two is at least not a complete disaster.
2012 Colorado Rockies
CF Fowler
2B Rutledge
LF Gonzalez
SS Tulowitzki
1B Pacheco
C Rosario
RF Cuddyer
3B Nelson
SP Pomeranz
SP Chacin
RP Belisle
RP Betancourt
PH Helton
PH Colvin
PH LeMahieu
PH Young
Of course, with the myriad of injuries, this crew never actually played together. However, it represents players that played a lot in 2012 and look to be part of the team for next year.
Perfect, tthanks guys. And fatty, that's quite ok...I think it's good to keep it realistic, but at the same time a Rockies fan will probably have more fun with this lineup, and it's a believable one, so it works.
1 MTrout CF
2 Hunter RF
3 Pujols 1B
4 KMorls 3B (really DH)
5 Trumbo LF
6 Kendrk 2B
7 EAybar SS
8 Iannta C
9 Pitcher
B1 VWells
B2 Calspo
B3 MIztrs
B4 BWlson
SP1 CJWlsn
SP2 JWeavr
RP1 SDowns
RP2 Frieri
you can substitute Peter Bourjos for Bobby Wilson if you want more excitement.
SF Giants
CF - Pagan
2B - Scutaro
3B - Sandoval
C - Posey
RF - Pence
LF - Nady
1B - Belt
SS - Crawford
Bench - Blanco
Bench - Arias
Bench - Theriot
Bench - Sanchez
SP - Cain
SP - Bumgardner
RP - Romo
CL - Lopez
LA Dodgers
2B - M. Ellis
LF - Victorino
1B - Gonzalez
CF - Kemp
SS - Ramirez
RF - Ethier
3B - Cruz
C - AJ Ellis
BENCH - Rivera
BENCH - Gordon
BENCH - Kennedy
BENCH - Abreau
SP - Kershaw
SP - Capuano
RP - Belisario
RP - Jansen
Awesome. You don't know how much time that little effort saves me.
fighton, I think you forgot the bench players for the Dodgers.
Whoops. Fixed.
CF Jay
RF Beltran
LF Holliday
1B Craig
3B Freese
C Molina
SS Furcal
2B Schumaker
B Descalso
B M Carpenter
B Berkman
B Kozma (only played a few games but the kid is going to be good)
P Wainwright
P Loshe
P Lynn
P Motte
Thanks, got these integrated into my docs. Much appreciated...
Thanks for all the help...these are the teams in need of lineups to feed into my base ROM generator. After that, I will go through and tweak like a boss. Then it's onto pitching...
The AL teams are especially painful to get lineups for because I need to find an appropriate NL lineup for them. A lot of times I'll put the DH in a spot even though he might not play 1B or whatever just to get him in, since RBI doesn't have fielding attributes anyways.
New York Mets
New York Yankees
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Washington
I'll fire up Baseball-Reference and try to nail down some of these teams.
Yeah, I use a combo of MLBDepthCharts.com, BR's team pages, and BR's common batting order pages...I tried to only include guys who are still on the team at the end of the season, so Alex Gonzalez on the Dodgers instead of the Sox, etc...
Thanks for stepping up, fighton...
Texas Rangers
2B – Kinsler
SS – Andrus
CF – Hamilton
3B – Beltre
1B/DH – Young (Moreland plays 1B but Young is a more of an essential hitter and plays 1B in interleague play)
RF – Cruz
C – Napoli
LF – Murphy
BENCH – Moreland
BENCH – Gentry
BENCH – Soto
BENCH - Snyder
SP – Harrison
SP – Darvish
RP – Ross
RP – Nathan
San Diego Padres
RF – Denorfia
2B – Forsythe
SS – Cabrera
3B – Headley
LF – Quentin
C – Grandal
1B – Alonso
CF – Maybin
BENCH – Venable
BENCH – Amarista
BENCH – Baker
BENCH – Kotsay
SP – Richard
SP – Volquez
RP – Gregerson
CL – Street
Oakland As
CF – Crisp
SS – Drew
LF – Cespedes
1B – Moss
RF – Reddick
3B – Donaldson
C – Norris
2B – Pennington
BENCH – Gomes
BENCH – Smith
BENCH – Rosales
BENCH – Kottaras
SP – Parker
SP – Milone
RP – Blevins
CL – Balfour
Awesome, only a few more to go.
For Oakland, you had Moss on there twice...I'll have to look into that one...
Hi, I'm new (and I appologize if this is posted in the wrong place) but I've been following the progress of the ROM. I've used your 30-Team editor (Thanks! Its incredible) to edit all the teams and using a combination of websites I have come up with my own version of the 2012 team line-ups. I'm curious to compare the ROMs in the end. I could give you a copy of the ROM if you'd like. However, my question to you is Have you changed the Florida Marlins to the Miami Marlins? ...and... If all the teams are suppose to be in alphabetical order then Chicago (CC and CW) should come before Cincinnati. (By the way, Cincinnati is spelled wrong in your ROM [Cincinatti].) I hope that helps :-)
Quote from: Turd on 10/02/12, 02:11:21 PM
For Oakland, you had Moss on there twice...I'll have to look into that one...
I meant to put Rosales in there on the bench. Edited.
Tampa Bay Rays
LF – Jennings
CF – Upton
SS – Zobrist
3B – Longoria
2B – Keppinger
1B – Pena
RF – Joyce
C – Molina
BENCH – Scott
BENCH – Rodriguez
BENCH – Roberts
BENCH – Giminez
SP – Price
SP – Shields
RP – McGee
CL – Rodney
Washington Nationals
RF – Werth
CF – Harper
3B – Zimmermann
1B – LaRoche
LF – Morse
SS – Desmond
2B – Espinosa
C – Suzuki
BENCH – Lombardozzi
BENCH – Flores
BENCH – Bernardina
BENCH – Moore
SP – Gonzalez
SP – Zimmermann
RP – Burnett
CL – Clippard
Fighton, thanks.
Beastie,Compare ratings or just lineups? I'll send my output when it's done.
Yes I've updated Miami. I've also corrected the misspelling and the team order. Part of me wants to reorder by league. Well see when I release the official dee-née version what I do.
Also as I said, this rom will have the grounder hack in it as well.
I'm also planning on a label/box art for 2013's preseason ROM. I have it designed, I just have to see how it prints.
Cool! We could compare both. I'm currently making adjustments.
I am not familiar with the grounder hack. I must have missed it...
The box art sounds cool. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, Nightwulf's editor on RBIcentral allowed you to turn off the 10-run mercy rule. Is there a way you could add on that feature?
The grounder hack makes it so you can give high avg guys (mauer) high power but it limits lift so they don't hit HR as much.
Mercy rule can probably find its way in.
We should think about combining efforts. I feel like my system is sound but I could use a second set of eyes.
Nice. I like that idea of the grounder hack.
I also like combining efforts. I'm all for assisting in making this the best RBI ever!
I like to release a good officil rom each year. More help the better.
I'm in! I've been playing RBI baseball since probably around 1990. It was always a fun game to turn to for a quick game of baseball. I even kept my own stats back in 2007. But I had long forgotten about the game until about the end of July this year when I was able to put a Nintendo emulator on my Nintendo DS. I had so much fun being able to play RBI portable.
One day I was curious and looked up RBI Baseball on Wikipedia and found a link to this website at the bottom.
I was overjoyed that this game has a cult following.
So... yes, I want in on some of this RBI Baseball ROM action!
I can't thank you enough for putting life back into this great NES baseball game (The best imo)
Agreed. I'm almost done with the lineups. Then I'll run it through my generator to get a base rom. Ill probably need help with the tweaking or double checking errors.
Sounds good. I can definitely "proofread" your work. With pleasure. :-D
White Sox
1. De Aza CF
2. Youkilis 3B
3. Konerko 1B
4. Rios RF
5. Pierzynski C
6. Viciedo LF
7. Ramirez SS
8. Beckham 2B
Dunn
Wise
Flowers
Hudson (ugh)
SP1 - Sale
SP2 - Peavy
RP - Jones
RP - Thornton
Thanks temp, I've updated the Sox with your suggestions, as I haven't gotten to rating them yet. Our lineups were not the same, and I had Dunn in the lineup. This is why I rely on team experts instead :)
My Brewers are perhaps the easiest team in all of baseball to provide a lineup for, as it never changes...
Adam Dunn is tailor made to be an RBI bench player, he'd be pretty deadly with the PH bonus.
Cubs
Castro SS
Rizzo 1B
Rizzo 2B
Rizzo 3B
Rizzo OF
Rizzo OF
Rizzo OF
Rizzo C
Rizzo B
Rizzo B
Rizzo B
Rizzo B
Shark SP
Rizzo SP
Rizzo RP
Marmol RP
I think your paste button is broken
speaking of him, Paste would make for a decent RBI player. Bay would be better. . .
I'm still working on the line-ups too :-\
I've actually gotten into rating hitters. I have an interesting idea for a hack too. Need to know if its possible. Will post when I know more.
I've got the following teams rated for hitters:
Arizona
Atlanta
Baltimore
Boston
Cincinnati
Chicago Cubs
Chicago White Sox
With my base rating scale, I've been able to make this process go quicker, so I should have most of the hitters done in the next few days.
Beastie, I'll probably send to you soon for a little feedback and playtesting. This groundball hack is in its infancy, and I want to make sure it plays like it should without messing up the RBI mojo...anyone else who wants to help with playtesting the groundball hack and other ratings, please let me know.
Quote from: fightonusc on 10/04/12, 06:48:18 PM
Washington Nationals
RF – Werth
CF – Harper
3B – Zimmermann
1B – LaRoche
LF – Morse
SS – Desmond
2B – Espinosa
C – Suzuki
BENCH – Lombardozzi
BENCH – Flores
BENCH – Bernardina
BENCH – Moore
SP – Gonzalez
SP – Zimmermann
RP – Burnett
CL – Clippard
I would make a couple minor changes to the Nats lineup
Washington Nationals
RF – Werth
CF – Harper
3B – Zimmermann
1B – LaRoche
LF – Morse
SS – Desmond
2B – Espinosa
C – Suzuki
BENCH – Lombardozzi
BENCH – Flores
BENCH – Bernardina
BENCH – Moore
SP – Gonzalez
SP – Strasburg
RP – Clippard
CL – Storen
Thanks Brett, looks like you really just made pitching changes...
I kind of thought Strasburg should be in there and decided I'd address that when I rated pitchers.
awesome. i'll be around when you need me to proofread it.
Anyone on here have a rbi 2 or rbi 3 editor? I found this site http://softerhosting.com/rbi/list.php?sdf (http://softerhosting.com/rbi/list.php?sdf) but you can't change the stats so it seems.. any help would be appreciated thanks.
Dude don't hijack my thread!
RBI 2/3 doesn't get much love around here.
come on man please help me out hell if anyone can help me out i will paypal you MONEY! :|
Again with the hijack. Sorry broseph, I don't care for 2 or 3 and I have limited time the way it is. Gotta spend time on stuff I enjoy...
Turd - are there any teams that you're missing line-ups for?
Nope, I'm good, thanks. I've started the rating process, thanks to your (and others help). Lineups are the worst part...
That said, I'm a little nervous how this will play with the new groundball hack...that process might be an evolution...in any event, I'll have people play test and whatnot and give feedback.
@PreDeadMan - Sorry, I'd have to agree with Turd. You're outta luck checking around here for RBI 2/3 (But I did enjoy the sound FX [I think it would be cool to have some of those SFX in RBI 1])
@ Turd - I can't wait to try it and I'll absolutely give feedback. By the way, I was using your editor and making adjustments on player's batting averages and spotted something that I'm not sure if you've noticed. When I input an .AVG that has a 0 in the middle of the number (e.g. .306) the editor doesn't keep the 0 in the middle spot and instead will save as .360. The first digit doesn't matter .103 will save as .130. Unless the third digit is also a 0 the middle digit 0 will always swap with the third digit (.100 will still be .100 obviously. But a .009 will save as a .090) Again, I'm not sure if you are already aware or not. I noticed it when I kept trying to save SF Giant's Marco Scutaro's .AVG as .306 and when I played the ROM it appeared as .360 and when I reloaded the ROM in the editor it was .360 again. I checked a few other player's .AVG and found this to be true for any player, and any team. So I tested all the different numbers and how they saved and came up with this observation. I tested this also for pitcher's ERAs and it looks like there are no problems in that category. I hope this helps!
Yeah, I knew about that bug, it doesn't show up on later ROMs because I use my web-based editor for that, but that editor isn't a multi-user thing, just something I wrote that runs on my local development server. I should probably get around to fixing the editor itself...
Might i suggest trying to fuck it?
I've tried doing that, but I just keep going back to my fleshlight...
ok, I understand its not a perfect program. I was just curious to know if you knew of the glitch. I can work around it for my ROMs.
Blue Jays
3B Lawrie
CF Rasmus
RF Bautista
1B Encarnacion
C Arencebia
2B Johnson
SS Escobar
OF Davis
Bench Lind
Bench Vizquel
Bench Gose
Bench Cooper
SP Morrow
SP Romero
RP Frasor
RP Janssen
Hey Turd,
Been a while. As usual nice job with the roms and whatnot. Can't wait to see what the new one looks like.
Thanks Houts...yes, it has been a long time. Down to 13 teams worth of hitters left to rate...
Make it 3...beastie, you'l have a ROM with hitters on it tonight or tomorrow...
Quote from: Turd on 10/02/12, 12:47:59 PM
Awesome, only a few more to go.
Travis - which lineups are you missing, I'll contribute one so you quit F-ing around on the dee-nee boards and come help me with this MAME machine!
;)
I'm done, my friend. I've been doing the ratings on downtime at work...
Are we still shooting for tonight for your mame machine?
Quote from: Turd on 10/16/12, 12:18:14 PM
I'm done, my friend. I've been doing the ratings on downtime at work...
Are we still shooting for tonight for your mame machine?
Congrats, nice job, will be looking forward to loading that rom onto the mame setup.
Tonight still works for me, I have a softball game at 7:15, done at around 8 and can be back to my house around 8:30. My kids will be down and out by that point.
Good time last night bastard...that machine is going to crush at the party...
Beastie, I have ROM text for you...I'll PM it to you...
Thanks, I got the message. I'll send you a reply.
My line-ups and stats are done too.
I'm doing pitchers now.
Ok, instead of limiting this to beastie, I figured I'd post it here and get everyone's feedback. The text file is attached to this post...
Here is some info:
Here it is. A few things:
Pitchers are not rated, those are previous year's ratings. Only look at hitters for now
I rate to reflect a season snapshot, so if a guy was really bad but is normally good, I tend to rate him a little lower to reflect that. I do make exceptions for injuries, etc, but a guy like pujols won't get the max power this year even though he's normally right up there. He'll still be good, but he's not getting Andre Dawson power.
I cap the power at 954, which is the most on the original ROM
Bench players are rated for their role...if they are often in the lineup, I give them enough power to be subbed in and played with. If they are usually a pinch hitter, I rate them low enough that they are useful for their first AB where they get +64 power, and after that, aren't really useful
I rate on a scale, so there's a general pattern, and then I tweak from there
These ratings utilize the new grounder attribute. N = normal power, no modifications. W = weak power, basically that they aren't able to hit as many homeruns, so a guy with 3 HR who bats 300+ might get a good amount of power and be set as a W power guy, so don't freak when you see guys 3 HR guys with a power of 860 or something like that...
What I'm looking for from you is your help in making the ROM for the community the best it can be. I want this to start being something people put on a cartridge every year. So, glaring power mistakes, etc. Speed doesn't necessarily translate to speed in real life, because it affects OBP and BA in RBI, so if you think a guy is too fast or too slow, that will help. Also, if a lineup is completely invalid, that's good info too.
I'm open to any and all feedback. When you stare at this stuff, it's easy to miss things...thanks!
Yea, good call allowing everyone to give feedback.
First thing, you said you cap Power at 954. That makes sense. But what's your range for Batter Contact? I barely have any batters with contact over 27 on my ROMs but have felt maybe I should make adjustments for certain batters that it would probably be more appropriate for having higher contact stats.
Second, I think SF Giants should have Belt batting 6th , Blanco batting 7th and Nady on the bench.
Edit* - I think I answered my own question... basically when I changed the batter's contact from the ROM that came with the editor after changing the lineups (They're mostly around 17-22 but no less than 10 or higher than 27, except pitchers which i had at 30), I did so because I had juiced the CPU and cut the bench batter bonus by half and therefore felt it would balance in a way with the defense being faster and throwing the ball quicker and the batters having better hits on the field. I dunno... Its part 'personal preference' and part 'just-what-works-well-thru-trial-and-error'.
But my point is that I forgot your ROM is going to be with default settings and therefor my batters stats from my ROM are probably going to be a little juiced for certain players you have having contact of over 30 and stuff like that.
And you made that point about bench players that are good for pinch hitting and bench players that are good for substitutions. I had not thought about that and so my stats don't reflect that concept.
Regardless, I'm still going to look it over more and give feedback and make a default settings ROM as well.
I always rate for default so people can play it unjuiced. Then I juice it after the fact for playing vs. CPU.
Yeah, there's a lot of variables that come into play when rating guys that doesn't seem obvious at first glance...
I'll take a look at the giants lineup, thanks for the rec...
I'll also be putting these hitters on a ROM soon for play testing...
Basically, looking at these ratings from afar, I feel like the ratings trend higher than the original ROM (due to the groundball hack). I'll need to put some serious playtesting in to see how it works, but if if detracts from the original style of play, I might go back to rating on a purely studs and duds approach based on power, and trying to find that happy medium between power and batting average.
So, in essence, this 2012 postseason ROM will be a trial run. If I don't like it, I'm going back to my tried and true method for the 2013 preseason release.
I'll be expecting feedback from people...
Ok, attached the ROM in the first post, and I'll also link to it here:
http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28352.0;attach=25223 (http://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=28352.0;attach=25223)
Remember, the pitchers are previous years. The only changes in this ROM are:
Updated batter lineups/ratings
Switch hitter hack
Groundball hack
Changed Florida to Miami and updated uniform (still unsure of this one)
Anxiously awaiting your playtesting feedback...
OH BOY! I CAN'T WAIT TO BOMB SOME DODONGOES!
So, any feedback? It was downloaded 7 times...or is Beastie just stealing my ratings :)
Alrighty, all of a sudden Beastie is MIA...that said, I've got a good roll on the pitchers ratings...should have them done soon and can release a beta version...
Sorry, I was on vacation in Maui. I just got back today.
HOW 'BOUT THEM GIANTS!!! WORLD SERIES CHAMPS!!! (I'm a Giants fan, LoL)
Anyway, I didn't have much time to preview your ROM while I was gone but I'll be getting to it very soon. The first playthru I did went well; I know you're looking for feedback for the batters, but I was curious to know what the different graphics on the field and with the scoreboard were about.
And don't worry, I won't steal your ratings ;-)
Maui? Dude. Why'd you come back! What different graphics on the field? The dirt paths? I had those added a while ago. Gives it a modern feel.
I know you're not stealing ratings. If I was really worried I wouldn't have shared them.
Anyways, look at the numbers on the sheet as well as play tr game Nd let me know what ya Think.
My mistake, Your ROM is fine. I did something wrong to it. The different graphics I think were a glitch after I made a change to your preview ROM using your editor. The "Game Over" black box on the scoreboard was shifted to the left and the lines on the field where the 1st and 3rd base coaches stand were glitched and showed X's. It was strange, but when I opened the original preview ROM unedited it was just fine.
And so far the batters with the grounder hack that I've played with have all had ground ball base hits into the gaps.
More feedback coming soon...
Great. Looking forward to it. I'm sure that editor isn't capable of editing the grounder hack ROM and that's why it glitches.
Yea, that's the conclusion I came to as well. The changes in the ROM are not fully compatible with the editor. No worries.
Sorry, Been busy looking for a new job, so I've had little time to give your ROM a full blown test run. But from what I've played it feels and plays like it should. I don't notice much of a difference with the grounder hack. But maybe thats still because I haven't played enough.... More to come...
Aside from that, I put my personal player line-ups and stats on a .txt file if you wanna see it. I don't have the pitcher ability and pitch speeds included in the .txt but the names, order and ERA are included. Just curious to know what you think.
Yeah, I've been busy too and haven't been able to chip away at it. Perhaps this ROM will be more of a preseason release :)
Its a work in progress for sure... But I'm still testing things.
If you wanna see my version of the line-ups, I can send that too.
If you ever find time to update and fix bugs in the editor I know I'd be appreciative of that. (But you are a person with a life so I know I can't keep my hopes up too high :D )
Any new news?
None yet, got some new tabletop sim baseball games and a football board game that have been taking up my time. I also got burned out and got busy at work, so that's a progress killer right there.
I think I said above I was going to shoot more for a preseason 2013 ROM instead of post-season...
Hi,
I was just recently introduced to updated RBI roms the other day by someone who told me about RBIbaseball.us. Anyways, I play RBI baseball on my phone all the time, and have just recently started paying close attention to the actual MLB teams, players, etc. Anyways, I'm a Braves fan, and have been tearing apart the web for a 2012 version, I did find a rom but it only contains the playoff teams, which is fine and dandy, but i figured yall here were the pros and I wanted to help in any way that I can. Anyway, just to get an idea of where you are at, it looks like you had plans of releasing the new 2012 rom, but got busy and pushed it back til preseason 2013. Is the rom still going to be based on the ending rosters of 2012 or the changing rosters of early 2013? I wanted to put together a Braves roster, as I didn't see one already made, I glanced quickly, so I may have missed it, but again, I have a good one if it is still necessary for your work on the new rom.
Thanks for all the work!
Quote from: Cannellizer on 11/28/12, 07:52:03 PM
Hi,
I was just recently introduced to updated RBI roms the other day by someone who told me about RBIbaseball.us. Anyways, I play RBI baseball on my phone all the time, and have just recently started paying close attention to the actual MLB teams, players, etc. Anyways, I'm a Braves fan, and have been tearing apart the web for a 2012 version, I did find a rom but it only contains the playoff teams, which is fine and dandy, but i figured yall here were the pros and I wanted to help in any way that I can. Anyway, just to get an idea of where you are at, it looks like you had plans of releasing the new 2012 rom, but got busy and pushed it back til preseason 2013. Is the rom still going to be based on the ending rosters of 2012 or the changing rosters of early 2013? I wanted to put together a Braves roster, as I didn't see one already made, I glanced quickly, so I may have missed it, but again, I have a good one if it is still necessary for your work on the new rom.
Thanks for all the work!
I'm not sure what Turd's plans are for the future RBI Baseball 30 Team ROM. He mentioned releasing a 2013 ROM instead of the post season 2012. Turd made a ROM that had a few special hacks in it. I had been testing it and was gonna give feedback. The rosters were mostly done, but not complete. I was gonna use that ROM and finish the rosters and share my team line-ups and stats and let others give their comments on my feedback.
However, that particular ROM isn't fully compatible with the ROM Editor that Turd put out for regular people to change up the teams. [I believe Turd has other editors and programs he uses personally to make changes but is not available for everyone and anyone to use]. So I went back to using the RBI30 Team ROM that comes with Turd's 30Team editor. I changed all the team line-ups to have what I felt was the best and most realistic batting line-ups for the 2012 season. I did my best trying to take into consideration player injuries, trades and reassignments. Attributes were generated by my own method. The pitchers were picked based mostly on which pitchers had the best stats for each team. I have 2 starters and 2 relief for mostly all the teams.
If you're not familiar with the editor I can let you know all the things that you can change in the game. If you want to make your own ROM you can download the RBI 30Team editor. Or if you'd rather just give me the line-up you want I can make a ROM for you.
I'll just go ahead and include everything I've got up to this point and upload it here. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask. My ROM does not include the special hacks Turd had been working on. It plays just like the original game except I made the CPU defense a little faster. You can adjust that setting in the editor. Its pretty simple to use and understand. Also my ROM does not include trades made after the World Series.
Enjoy!
Quote from: Turd on 11/27/12, 02:10:29 PM
None yet, got some new tabletop sim baseball games and a football board game that have been taking up my time. I also got burned out and got busy at work, so that's a progress killer right there.
I think I said above I was going to shoot more for a preseason 2013 ROM instead of post-season...
Yea, I got a new job that is taking my time too. Lately, when I take a break from RBI Baseball I go play Mario Superstar Baseball on GameCube. :-P
[I gave MLB Power Pros 2008 for Wii a try too. Its not a bad baseball game at all. I had fun with it.]
I loved power pros. The fact that it stopped getting released was a major bummer. I also tried Bobble Head pros, but that also failed to deliver on updates or expansions to be able to edit players.
For the ROM, I have a definite goal to release one ROM a year, but I got in spurts of having tons of time and then having no time. Now that we have some more interest, perhaps a joint effort is in order to release a ROM. Beastie, I can try and spend some time to clean up the most recent version of the 30 team editor and send it to you if you want to help out. I am done with batters, I just need to finish pitchers...
Let me know...
P.S. Cannellizer, thanks for your interest. I was going to release a end of year and preseason ROM, but now it looks more like a 2013 ROM preseason is in effect that would basically be the same attributes as I've rated them for 2012, but on their new teams, so your Braves would no longer have Chipper in the new ROM...make sense?
That would be awesome to have an updated editor. I can definitely still help out for the official ROM.
Just let me know what you would like to be done and I'll take my free time to work on that.
Awesome. I am going to check out your 2012 upload and see how it plays. If its good i will just stick with that, I may end up checking out the other downloads you posted and if I have questions I will let you know. Thanks again.
Quote from: beastietg on 11/29/12, 12:49:27 AM
Quote from: Cannellizer on 11/28/12, 07:52:03 PM
Hi,
I was just recently introduced to updated RBI roms the other day by someone who told me about RBIbaseball.us. Anyways, I play RBI baseball on my phone all the time, and have just recently started paying close attention to the actual MLB teams, players, etc. Anyways, I'm a Braves fan, and have been tearing apart the web for a 2012 version, I did find a rom but it only contains the playoff teams, which is fine and dandy, but i figured yall here were the pros and I wanted to help in any way that I can. Anyway, just to get an idea of where you are at, it looks like you had plans of releasing the new 2012 rom, but got busy and pushed it back til preseason 2013. Is the rom still going to be based on the ending rosters of 2012 or the changing rosters of early 2013? I wanted to put together a Braves roster, as I didn't see one already made, I glanced quickly, so I may have missed it, but again, I have a good one if it is still necessary for your work on the new rom.
Thanks for all the work!
I'm not sure what Turd's plans are for the future RBI Baseball 30 Team ROM. He mentioned releasing a 2013 ROM instead of the post season 2012. Turd made a ROM that had a few special hacks in it. I had been testing it and was gonna give feedback. The rosters were mostly done, but not complete. I was gonna use that ROM and finish the rosters and share my team line-ups and stats and let others give their comments on my feedback.
However, that particular ROM isn't fully compatible with the ROM Editor that Turd put out for regular people to change up the teams. [I believe Turd has other editors and programs he uses personally to make changes but is not available for everyone and anyone to use]. So I went back to using the RBI30 Team ROM that comes with Turd's 30Team editor. I changed all the team line-ups to have what I felt was the best and most realistic batting line-ups for the 2012 season. I did my best trying to take into consideration player injuries, trades and reassignments. Attributes were generated by my own method. The pitchers were picked based mostly on which pitchers had the best stats for each team. I have 2 starters and 2 relief for mostly all the teams.
If you're not familiar with the editor I can let you know all the things that you can change in the game. If you want to make your own ROM you can download the RBI 30Team editor. Or if you'd rather just give me the line-up you want I can make a ROM for you.
I'll just go ahead and include everything I've got up to this point and upload it here. If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask. My ROM does not include the special hacks Turd had been working on. It plays just like the original game except I made the CPU defense a little faster. You can adjust that setting in the editor. Its pretty simple to use and understand. Also my ROM does not include trades made after the World Series.
Enjoy!
Sweet! Let me know what you think of it
Beastie, what's your email? I will send you some stuff today...
i sent a PM with my e-mail to you. i hope it worked. let me know if i need to send it again.
Are you guys cybering via PM?
Can I join?
Take it to Skype, perverts
A/S/L
Hey man, this Rom is great! It's got all my favorite players (for the Atlanta Braves) on it. I like how it is a little juiced for the CPU to be a little harder. The only very minor detail, is that I was hoping to see Kris Medlen on there, just because of the stellar season he had, but I understand he didn't make an appearance til about mid season or so. He could very easily be swapped in there for Tommy Hanson, who fell apart towards the end of the season. I was really happy to see Kimbrel in there though, he is awesome. Other than that though, I couldn't be happier with the Rom, I appreciate your work on it, and will continue to play it until the release of the 2013 Preseason Rom. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
Thanks again!
Quote from: beastietg on 11/30/12, 02:49:19 PM
Sweet! Let me know what you think of it
Quote from: Cannellizer on 12/05/12, 07:23:30 PM
Hey man, this Rom is great! It's got all my favorite players (for the Atlanta Braves) on it. I like how it is a little juiced for the CPU to be a little harder. The only very minor detail, is that I was hoping to see Kris Medlen on there, just because of the stellar season he had, but I understand he didn't make an appearance til about mid season or so. He could very easily be swapped in there for Tommy Hanson, who fell apart towards the end of the season. I was really happy to see Kimbrel in there though, he is awesome. Other than that though, I couldn't be happier with the Rom, I appreciate your work on it, and will continue to play it until the release of the 2013 Preseason Rom. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
Thanks again!
Quote from: beastietg on 11/30/12, 02:49:19 PM
Sweet! Let me know what you think of it
Your wish is granted.
Beastie, let me know if you got the stuff I sent you...
Nothing really new to report.
The ROM is a slow work in progress.
Should be finished in the next couple weeks I hope.
Merry Christmas!
Your wish is granted.
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Nice!!!
Only downfall is that now I have to start a new season... LOL
Just wanna chime in that I haven't forgotten about you guys.
My new job and the g/f suck up most of my free time to work on all the pitchers for the new ROM.
However, Its still being worked on.... just slowly :-)
Quote from: beastietg on 01/18/13, 04:18:58 PM
Just wanna chime in that I haven't forgotten about you guys.
My new job and the g/f suck up most of my free time to work on all the pitchers for the new ROM.
However, Its still being worked on.... just slowly :-)
Thanks a lot man! I'm anxiously awaiting the new ROM, and am definitely very appreciative of the work being done!
Beastie, I'll actually step back in when I have a few minutes and rate some more...if we have it done by season start, all we have to do is move guys to their appropriate teams for a 2013 ROM...
I'm gonna have to step out for awhile. Lots of work, family birthdays and now my gma passed away and I will have to travel outta town for a couple weeks. Sorry guys. I'll be back!
Turd, I see you develop a lot of these nes ROM hacking utilities. Have you or do you plan to release the source code for any of them? Also how do you do the ratings? Wouldn't you be able to parse some player ratings from lets say... espn.com and use that to generate in game ratings? Curious as I'd really like to take a look at the code.
Thanks,
-Jake
I haven't ever released the source code because a lot of it is really shitty "just get it done" type stuff and wouldn't be anything worth sharing. Especially the 30-Team editor, since it's written in WPF, and I really don't know XAML all that well so it's really a fucking mess. For ratings, I start with a base formula for contact, power, speed, and some pitching stats, and then I tweak from there. Pitching is the most difficult thing to rate...
I know there hasn't been movement on this, but I'm working on a new stats gathering method that should GREATLY ease the rating of my ROMS (plus the possibility of another cool hack). So, I have no idea when this will be done, or of it'll be done before the 2013 season, but pain now = potential greatness and really fast rating of ROMs later on...
Thanks Turd. Once again. If there is anything I (a simple man) can do to lighten the work load, say the word, otherwise I will patiently be waiting.
Quote from: Turd on 02/11/13, 11:06:15 PM
I know there hasn't been movement on this, but I'm working on a new stats gathering method that should GREATLY ease the rating of my ROMS (plus the possibility of another cool hack). So, I have no idea when this will be done, or of it'll be done before the 2013 season, but pain now = potential greatness and really fast rating of ROMs later on...
Haha, Turd I'll only bug you one more time... If you were to release the source others would be able to help contribute, I don't know what you have planned for the stats gathering method, but I possible could help contribute to that, but if anything I could help clean up some of the code up.
Regardless, I cant wait for the 2013 ROM to come out :)
Jaker, if I ever get it to a point to where it can be shared, ill release the source. But, my new method should vastly speed things up. Ill see what I can do this week.
Hey guys... bad news. All my work I've done with the pitchers thus far has either been deleted, corrupted or otherwise unusable.
I still don't quite understand what happened to all my files... :-(
I hope this doesn't set you guys back. I just don't know how much help I can be at this point now...
Sorry guys...
Btw, I'm pretty fuckin pissed about this whole situation. I feel like I lost a lot of hours for nothing.... >:(
I'll go try and calm down for now...
Good luck with the future 2013 ROM!
No prob. I got this...
You can make it up to me by adding your assessment on which guys might benefit from the ground also hack when I'm done.
Man, this is going to be real nice...the only thing painful thing about rating ROMs now will be the pitch speed. I must see if I can somehow automate that from pitchfx data...
Soon I'll post my projected lineups for all the teams and ask that the rest of you help in updating them as usual...
Been entering lineups, but I wonder if it's smarter to wait until things solidify before doing so...maybe release teh ROM week 1 of season begin so that it's more accurate? It should go pretty quick now that I have a helper program to assist me...
Keep up the great work. The masses await the final product eagerly.
It'll be there...I'll release it after the season starts so we have accurate rosters...I also have box art that should come along for the ride on this one...
Is this for RBI 1?
Yes.
Happy to help with lineups. Knowing most of those may be one of the blessings of doing so much fantasy baseball. Please pm me when you need help as I'm not on dee-nee as much as I should be.
Quote from: Turd on 02/19/13, 10:38:40 AM
Man, this is going to be real nice...the only thing painful thing about rating ROMs now will be the pitch speed. I must see if I can somehow automate that from pitchfx data...
Soon I'll post my projected lineups for all the teams and ask that the rest of you help in updating them as usual...