MLB PR just tweeted a few minutes ago that they're coming out with an RBI Baseball 14.
I mean, who knows, it very well might suck and will probably not be as good as an updated ROM of the original, but I just thought that was something I should put here. I could put it in the RBI forum, but I haven't really looked at it in probably six months.
Also looking at the mentions of #RBI14 is pretty entertaining. Lot of fucking RBI fans out there.
http://rbigame.mlb.com/rbigame/home.jsp
Will be on consoles and mobile. What a perfect Iphone/Ipad game
http://extramustard.si.com/2014/01/14/new-rbi-baseball-mlbam/
http://rbigame.mlb.com/rbigame/home.jsp
I'm in
RBI Baseball is trending right now. So good...
This is big news, unfortunately I have no fancy devices to play, maybe it will suck though. Latest technology is Wii.
This will be on my Xbox minutes after it comes out.
Damn I was just going to post this. Awesome.
Sweet!
I'd love to see this reinvigorate interest in the classic ROMs, maybe this will drive a bunch of traffic to the RBI hacking community!
I'm also pretty pumped to play a modern arcade style baseball game. Just hope they don't incorporate pay-to-win or pay-to-unlock style features that are too common in modern multi platform games.... Give me a sweet game, charge me once and leave me alone!
Agreed.
Things I'd love to see:
something like the Pro Yakuu Family Stadium games with updated rosters. Same classic gameplay, updated rosters, and maybe a few fixes like diving/jumping, stadiums, DH. Season play. League option for playing vs. friends. "Classic" mode like Tecmo's redux did where you could play with the original graphics. Actual player names and cities (I don't need logos or real team names, though that would be cool).
Things I don't want to see:
Drastic overhaul of the graphics or gameplay. Powerups mode where you get something like a "super shot" or "split multiple balls pitch." I doubt they would, but sometimes that's how they refresh things. Pay-to-win/unlock as brahmy mentioned. This would be stupid.
I was just about to post this here but I figured I should check "breaking" because this is big news. So fkn happy right now. This will be a perfect 3ds game to play online. I hope they keep the 3ds version like the japanese family stadium was on the ds. It was awesome.
Fantastic news, though I remember an XBox version that was supposed to come out before and never made it.
You can give them your email address on that page for updates, I highly recommend that everyone do that so they see some interest.
This sounds a lot more promising than the rumored one from a couple years ago. In that case, I don't know that there was ever a formal announcement - someone spotted an ESRB registration, and the development studio confirmed that they were working on it... and then it basically just disappeared. This one sounds like it has a more firm release date and is being a bit more heavily publicized.
Absolutely, the fact that MLB has a hand in it makes me hopeful
Quote from: Turd on 01/15/14, 07:22:44 AM
Things I'd love to see:
something like the Pro Yakuu Family Stadium games with updated rosters. Same classic gameplay, updated rosters, and maybe a few fixes like diving/jumping, stadiums, DH. Season play. League option for playing vs. friends. "Classic" mode like Tecmo's redux did where you could play with the original graphics. Actual player names and cities (I don't need logos or real team names, though that would be cool).
Since it was announced by MLB Advanced Media, I'd assume real team names are a given. You'd think that they'd have the MLBPA on board as well for something like this - I don't know that they've worked separately since Griffey (MLB but not MLBPA) and RBI (MLBPA but not MLB).
All the stuff you've suggested, though, are right on with what I'd expect. Basically, I'd like RBI with updated rosters, ideally some historical teams (an "original rosters" option would be phenomenal), and Baseball Simulator-style season mode. Retro graphics would be cool, and if they were really ambitious, maybe multiple gameplay modes - original RBI, RBI 3, and "modern" (based more heavily on Pro Yakyuu).
Quote from: Turd on 01/15/14, 07:22:44 AM
Things I don't want to see:
Drastic overhaul of the graphics or gameplay. Powerups mode where you get something like a "super shot" or "split multiple balls pitch." I doubt they would, but sometimes that's how they refresh things. Pay-to-win/unlock as brahmy mentioned. This would be stupid.
Christ, I hope they don't go free-to-play - I would much rather just pay my $10 and get everything (although I didn't terribly mind having to unlock the historical players in NBA Jam), rather than have to grind or feel like a tool for paying for stuff. Not a fan of that model at all.
Power-ups were occasionally fun in Baseball Simulator, but I'm in agreement that they don't have a place in RBI.
Very strongly agreed on the "changes to the gameplay" part, particularly the pitching/hitting model - I never have cared for the "move the reticule to the spot where the pitch is going" behavior that's been the standard in baseball games since the N64 era. I wouldn't mind them adding diving and jumping, like you said - they had that in very early RBI sequels, so it's not really counter to the spirit of the game. In my above scenario, you could just enable that in "RBI 3" or "Family Stadium" mode.
Quote from: Turd on 01/15/14, 07:22:44 AM
Agreed.
Things I'd love to see:
something like the Pro Yakuu Family Stadium games with updated rosters. Same classic gameplay, updated rosters, and maybe a few fixes like diving/jumping, stadiums, DH. Season play. League option for playing vs. friends. "Classic" mode like Tecmo's redux did where you could play with the original graphics. Actual player names and cities (I don't need logos or real team names, though that would be cool).
Things I don't want to see:
Drastic overhaul of the graphics or gameplay. Powerups mode where you get something like a "super shot" or "split multiple balls pitch." I doubt they would, but sometimes that's how they refresh things. Pay-to-win/unlock as brahmy mentioned. This would be stupid.
Totally agree on all points.
Quote from: Baines on 01/14/14, 09:50:58 PM
RBI Baseball is trending right now. So good...
What is #KrollShow
MLB is losing a lot of licensing money now that the 2K series has announced they will no longer make a baseball game, so it's in their best interest to try to push this. Hopefully they get the playability right. The RBI series went to shit went it got to the Genesis generation, pushing for more reality and hurting the actual fun of the game. Keeping my fingers crossed...
I would actually buy a current generation system if it meant I could play RBI online easily.
Quote from: Baines on 01/14/14, 09:50:58 PM
RBI Baseball is trending right now. So good...
this usually means an influx of people to the forums that Reds will scare away after 3 posts.
8)
Million posts, HERE WE COME
Gameplay is key, if they change it too much it really isn't RBI and just cashing in on the retro name recognition.
gantry, merge topics. you know you want to do it
jaw on the floor.
Who saw this coming.
Fingers crossed MLB doesn't fuck it up too much.
But I'll still be downloading/ordering Turd's 2014 hack-- good stuff.
Unless they knock it outta tha park, as it were, my hack will still be happening.
This post compliments of the news.
I had to come by and see the thoughts brewing around here.
#Mergethegoddamntrheadsalreadygantry
Does anyone know if it will be made by NAMCO? If yes then it will be worth getting. I've played the later versions of their Famista series including Nintedo 64 and Pro Yakyuu Famista 2010 on Nintendo DS and the gameplay is very much like the original RBI chubby players and all.
The only thing that sucks about this is if it's good I'll have to get an Xbox One or PS4. If that's the case I'll have to find out which console you guys prefer so I can play y'all online.
I'm getting a ps4 simply for mlb the show. And now this.
The webpage for the game is literally just one page, with no information on the developer (just that MLB Advanced Media is behind it somehow). I'm not sure what to expect about a developer. Some outfit called Six Degrees Games was behind an attempt at an RBI remake a few years ago, but the internets appear to indicate that they have gone out of business, and that remake went away quietly without materializing.
I'm curious what platforms they'll be supporting. "Current and next generation consoles" implies both levels of Xbox and PlayStation plus the Wii U, except no one makes anything for the Wii U. The press release said "smartphones and tablets", so iOS and Android as well (Windows 8 and Windows Phone are probably less likely). 3DS and Vita would make a ton of sense, too, although I don't know whether those are considered "consoles" or what.
Personally, I've got an Xbox 360, so that'll be my platform of choice.
I remember that six degrees one. I think this has more of a chance thAn that one did.
Well see. Very much looking for the next update.
it better be on the Wii U. If not, Sony and Microsoft are fools for not mentioning this killer app when the consoles were released.
Quote from: Turd on 01/15/14, 01:26:29 PM
Unless they knock it outta tha park, as it were, my hack will still be happening.
I have been thinking about RBI Baseball 2014 all day long.
A reboot of this franchise COULD prompt a lot of people to seek out the classic versions. I suppose there is a chance that RBI Baseball 2014 is the greatest RBI game ever, but ... really? I don't see it happening. The classic game is just too perfect.
You keep doing your thing Turd... I'll keep doing mine :) My prediction is that demand for classic ROMs goes up this year!
Bastardo sighting!
Just what needed to happen to get Greg and Gwynn3k back playing RBI.
We had a discussion started on what we wanted to see starting with my post and Beef's response:
https://forums.dee-nee.com/index.php?topic=29147.msg920543#msg920543
I'd be interested to hear what the rest of you were hoping for in a game...
Yeah, Gantry, merge 'em!
Because it has the '14 in the title, it definitely seems like it'll be 2014 modern day rosters. If they do this and it hits, it'd be cool if they released a new one every year. Oh, and beef mentioned classic teams. That'd be freakin' sweet!
The dream is to let people make their own teams, but there is no way they allow that...
Quote from: Turd on 01/16/14, 10:46:46 AM
Because it has the '14 in the title, it definitely seems like it'll be 2014 modern day rosters. If they do this and it hits, it'd be cool if they released a new one every year. Oh, and beef mentioned classic teams. That'd be freakin' sweet!
The dream is to let people make their own teams, but there is no way they allow that...
I guess you never know... Tecmo Bowl Throwback at least had the option to rename players, so I've got most of the NFL with accurate names (although there's no ability to edit teams, so the colors are still wonky).
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I hate you all, but merged
I was thinking, maybe we could have a second thread regarding the new RBI game coming out, after all this is the biggest thing to happen to RBI since the death of Donnie Moore.
:POW:
Sure thing, brb
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Wait I liked the other thread better...Can we switch back to two separate threads?
Seems like a modest request.
Gantry?
Quote from: Burnzky on 01/15/14, 11:47:45 PM
Just what needed to happen to get Greg and Gwynn3k back playing RBI.
YES! how are you guys doing? feel free to PM me. I live in Colorado now.
Quote from: Bastardo on 01/16/14, 12:27:41 PM
Seems like a modest request.
Gantry?
Sure thing, brb
Very accommodating.
Saw this news, had to come back to comment on it. Hope everyone has been well!
This totally fucking rules.
DRYDEN!!!
Hey buddy, how's things?
What'd I miss?
Quote from: Dryden on 01/16/14, 02:11:26 PM
Hey buddy, how's things?
What'd I miss?
Gantry merged the threads.
No, no, that isn't quite it... it'll come to me eventually.
;)
Look at this fucking guy... welcome back buddy!
Hey dryden!
Also, Gantry, can you merge this with the haiku thread. Thanks.
Since we're merged I went ahead and at least put RBI 14 in the title.
Can we get this thread moved to the private forum? Seems more appropriate there...
The kids say "appropes"
^
Ill have what he's having...
well this got awkward.
Quote from: Dryden on 01/16/14, 02:06:56 PM
Saw this news, had to come back to comment on it. Hope everyone has been well!
This totally fucking rules.
FUR DILDOS!!!!!1
It took me a minute to even remember what that was about. Well-played, good sir.
Half the shit on this thread doesn't seem apprope at all.
Bro its totes appropes so just relax and enjoy the celebraish
Quote from: broiler on 01/17/14, 09:58:33 AM
Bro Brah its totes appropes so just relax and enjoy the celebraish
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he called you bastaro, I'd kill him.
Can we ban the ONE, or at least install a plugin that converts the word ONE in caps to spaces?
Quote from: hort22 on 01/17/14, 10:38:36 AM
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THIS
Simply put, I used to like conversing with you. I just find all the ONE stuff really annoying and hard to read, and completely unnecessary outside of your One United thread. I'm not bullying, I'm just being honest.
Truth be told I wasn't serious about actually banning you, I was just making a point. I was polite previous, but it became obvious that it was a thing now so you were gonna ramp up the ONE jabbering even more,
So I took it one level past polite.
You have to be able to at least see how your posts could be annoying from someone else's vantage point. But, it's obvious you're ok with it and will continue, so nothing I can do but ignore it. Turd out.
P.s. How ironic that I wrote this post from the shitter. :)
Quote from: Turd on 01/18/14, 07:07:30 PM
Simply put, I used to like conversing with you. I just find all the ONE stuff really annoying and hard to read, and completely unnecessary outside of your One United thread. I'm not bullying, I'm just being honest.
Truth be told I wasn't serious about actually banning you, I was just making a point. I was polite previous, but it became obvious that it was a thing now so you were gonna ramp up the ONE jabbering even more,
So I took it one level past polite.
You have to be able to at least see how your posts could be annoying from someone else's vantage point. But, it's obvious you're ok with it and will continue, so nothing I can do but ignore it. Turd out.
P.s. How ironic that I wrote this post from the shitter. :)
Did you write the post script before or after wiping?
Dude, drop the stupid schtick and just post as a normal fucking person.
What has happened here? Trolling in the return of RBI thread? Blasphemy
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Just for clarification, do you really want me to change my name to TurdFan or was that just sarcasm?
.
Saw this thread, thought I'd comment to joke about all the new members we'll get, and old members coming back.
Then I saw Dryden came back.
Has anyone seen BeeJay?
It's funny, I lurk quite often because I'd really like to hang out again at some point with some of the Dee-Nee fucks around the area but the announcement of the new game got me to post and per usual it's a good time.
Bastardo, it's time to get another MKE RBI thing going. We can try to get Gantry, Re-Poop, and a few others. Maybe the ONE RBI messiah.
I'd be down for another Milwaukee gathering, I think my NES Arcade cart is still in someone's possession somewhere up there.
Oh, you WANT the ONE RBI messiah there. Do it! He's good people
Quote from: Gantry on 01/20/14, 09:08:27 AM
I'd be down for another Milwaukee gathering, I think my NES Arcade cart is still in someone's possession somewhere up there.
I think my buddy Shaun has it, in a paper bag of sorts. I don't remember much from the second half of that day, though there was a time riding around in a car post tournament, pre-bar time that was absolutely hilarious.
Yeah, we went to that place downtown and had PBR in a bag. That was a cool bar, actually. Gantry was drunk, perched on a chair, I believe if I'm not mistaken, moments away from falling asleep where he perched.
Very few memories after that Dr. McGillicudies (sp) shot during the finals. Too much booze, too fast.
Repeat still has my nes and RBI, I'm a fool to not have gotten it back from him sooner.
ONE love
Dirty Swinger is a suave mother fucker. Why is George Clinton catching for you?
So much booze, so little time.
Joe from Milwaukee had his wife pick him up mid-tournament without any of us even noticing he had left.
Someone's NES fried too right? After we got kicked out of the bowling alley and had to play in the hall.
Quote from: Bastardo on 01/23/14, 09:48:33 AM
So much booze, so little time.
Joe from Milwaukee had his wife pick him up mid-tournament without any of us even noticing he had left.
I noticed.
Which is surprising, considering you were still in body-shock from all the bumpy roads.
Ivan Stewart....
Ok so we are 2 months away from opening day for MLB with no information on the game AT ALL. Usually new release games have at least screen shots 6 months prior to launch while this game has jack squat. I'm guessing the game won't be released until mid-late summer. If you guys did a pool on the launch date put me down for July 22nd.
This game probably requires much less design time than most games, I bet it will be ready by early April
I felt the same way, at least some kind of teaser would be nice. I'm buying a PS4 for MLB The Show (and RBI 14, of course) and neither game have given us squat, a littl emore than a month away from season start...
Quote from: Turd on 02/10/14, 10:17:16 AM
I felt the same way, at least some kind of teaser would be nice. I'm buying a PS4 for MLB The Show (and RBI 14, of course) and neither game have given us squat, a littl emore than a month away from season start...
When you get your ps4 lemme know, I'll have the Show as well.
Did you get a PS4 already? I'm getting mine soon...
PS4??? Y'all are much cooler than me. I just got a PS3 for Xmas! I did check first to confirm that MLB the show will come out for PS3 as well as PS4 this and next year. But I'll admit the new RBI 14 has me intrigued too
I got my ps4 on launch night, set it up next to the ps3, then turned my ps3 on.
That's pretty much how it has been ever since but I'm looking forward to the Show.
VEGAS - what kind of games do you like? I have tons of ps3 games that I could loan to you, would probably start with the Uncharted games/Resistance games. Let me know if you are interested.
That'd be sweet. I've only had the 360. I'm only using the PS4 for The Show, really, and it'll probably be mostly to play you and my buddy who is also PS4ing for the first time.
I like FPS shooters, COD, etc. I'd LOVE to get my hands on an old NCAA basketball game for the PS3 since they don't make them anymore. If I could do that, I'd be super happy.
Quote from: Turd on 02/12/14, 10:11:41 AM
I'd LOVE to get my hands on an old NCAA basketball game for the PS3 since they don't make them anymore. If I could do that, I'd be super happy.
I didn't think the PS4 was backward-compatible.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 02/12/14, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: Turd on 02/12/14, 10:11:41 AM
I'd LOVE to get my hands on an old NCAA basketball game for the PS3 since they don't make them anymore. If I could do that, I'd be super happy.
I didn't think the PS4 was backward-compatible.
It's not, I was writing to VEGAS about lending the PS3 games, not to Turd.
But Turd lives 15 minutes from me so if he'd like to come over and play some PS3 he is more than welcome.
Ahh shit, I didn't see you were directing that at Vegas. Carry on...
Bastardo,
thanks for the offer. Maybe I'll take you up on that one day, but first I need to set up my PS3. I know, its embarrassing that I've had it since Xmas and its not even set up. I just got busy with some family drama. Anyway it came with Tomb Raider, Last of Us, and some Batman game but I'm mostly play sports games (Baseball, Basketball and Football). Mostly I find myself with 20-40 minutes to play so a long drawn out game where I sit and play for a few hours just isn't an option. Thus sports games seem to work best when I have about 30 min to play. (Though I'll admit Assassin's Creed looks pretty interesting.) I'd love to hear some recommendations for PS3 games (sports or otherwise).
~VEGAS
Quote from: Bastardo on 02/12/14, 10:09:44 AM
I got my ps4 on launch night, set it up next to the ps3, then turned my ps3 on.
That's pretty much how it has been ever since but I'm looking forward to the Show.
VEGAS - what kind of games do you like? I have tons of ps3 games that I could loan to you, would probably start with the Uncharted games/Resistance games. Let me know if you are interested.
Quote from: VEGAS on 02/13/14, 04:27:01 PM
Bastardo,
thanks for the offer. Maybe I'll take you up on that one day, but first I need to set up my PS3. I know, its embarrassing that I've had it since Xmas and its not even set up. I just got busy with some family drama. Anyway it came with Tomb Raider, Last of Us, and some Batman game but I'm mostly play sports games (Baseball, Basketball and Football). Mostly I find myself with 20-40 minutes to play so a long drawn out game where I sit and play for a few hours just isn't an option. Thus sports games seem to work best when I have about 30 min to play. (Though I'll admit Assassin's Creed looks pretty interesting.) I'd love to hear some recommendations for PS3 games (sports or otherwise).
~VEGAS
Quote from: Bastardo on 02/12/14, 10:09:44 AM
I got my ps4 on launch night, set it up next to the ps3, then turned my ps3 on.
That's pretty much how it has been ever since but I'm looking forward to the Show.
VEGAS - what kind of games do you like? I have tons of ps3 games that I could loan to you, would probably start with the Uncharted games/Resistance games. Let me know if you are interested.
The Batman games no matter which one, are great.
The best sports game hands down for playstation is The Show, and then of course FIFA is always pretty good (that's probably what I play the most).
I've got plenty of sports games when you are ready to get to it.
I think I found some PS4s at the Wal-Mart on the way home from work. I may have to stop...
Quote from: Turd on 02/17/14, 08:22:53 AM
I think I found some PS4s at the Wal-Mart on the way home from work. I may have to stop...
Yup, sounds like a few stores around here finally got another shipment.
I bought a gently used system from a dude at work. Stupid PS4 version of the show isn't coming out until May 31st! That's shit.
I hope they make the PS3 be "upgradeable" to bridge the gap. Or, I hope RBI 14 is a servicable stopgap or even better
When PS3 was released, MLB the Show was released for 2-3 more years on BOTH PS and PS3. There some features that only worked on the newer platform (and also the appearance was better on Ps3), but my fellow PS3 owners should have a high level of confidence that the show for this season will be released on PS3.
In fact you can pre-order it for PS3 on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/MLB-14-The-Show-PlayStation-4/dp/B00GG4BBUM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392763177&sr=8-1&keywords=mlb+the+show+14
of course they are charging as much for the Ps3 and they are for the ps4 version. BASTARDS!
Quote from: Turd on 02/18/14, 09:09:16 AM
I bought a gently used system from a dude at work. Stupid PS4 version of the show isn't coming out until May 31st! That's shit.
I hope they make the PS3 be "upgradeable" to bridge the gap. Or, I hope RBI 14 is a servicable stopgap or even better
That's not what I mean. There have been a lot of requests to allow purchase of the PS3 version and then upgrade for a cheap price to the PS4 version when it comes out, but now that I think of it, that doesn't help me cause I don't have a PS3 and couldn't play it anyways.
God I hope RBI is good enough to get me to May 31st.
Bastardo, what's Ur Psn name?
They have done that upgrade thing for a few games like COD and BF4, that would certainly be cool if they did it for the Show but I doubt it will happen.
Guido13 is my PSN name.
Bastard, I know you said you haven't turned your PS4 on, but I did go ahead and add you as a friend and send you a voice message (I was testing out the headset).
I can't wait for the show to come out (end of May, what???)
Some screens:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/check-screens-mlb-14-show-ps4-fear-beards/
And vs. PS3
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After watching the video for Tom Clancy's "The Division" I might have to pick that one up as well. Wow...
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Turd - I know the guy you bought your PS4 from, we stood in line together to get them.
How the hell do you know who he is?
He's tall, bearded and one heck of a nice guy.
And it's fucking hilarious that I know the both of you.
He is a good guy. Do you actually know him? Did you meet him in line, or did you know him previous?
Oh shit. It just clicked. He told me yesterday he had a friend who was really into RBI, even built his own MAME cabinet, he's got the actual RBI arcade system, and he takes it in the ass from random dudes at the wayside.
That's fucking you!! I'm dying over here. I can't believe he was describing you...I told him to give me his PSN and whatnot. Turns out I already had it. I wonder if he knows I helped you build your MAME cab.
This is so damn weird.
He just loaned me FIFA and BF4.
Quote from: Turd on 02/28/14, 09:34:07 AM
Oh shit. It just clicked. He told me yesterday he had a friend who was really into RBI, even built his own MAME cabinet, he's got the actual RBI arcade system, and he takes it in the ass from random dudes at the wayside.
That's fucking you!! I'm dying over here. I can't believe he was describing you...I told him to give me his PSN and whatnot. Turns out I already had it. I wonder if he knows I helped you build your MAME cab.
This is so damn weird.
He just loaned me FIFA and BF4.
This was a nice Dee-Nee touch.
Thank you thank you.
It was fantastic when I realized what was going on last night, the wife was impressed.
Then she asked me how long I had been taking it up the ass.
I'm such an amateur though. It would have been better had it read:
Quote
Oh shit. It just clicked. He told me yesterday he had a friend who was really into RBI, even built his own MAME cabinet, he takes it in the ass from random dudes at the wayside, and he's got the actual RBI arcade system.
I'll get there, one day.
Keep working on it, you're doing great.
That's what I tell the guys doing it for the first time, in my ass.
http://www.operationsports.com/news/703256/press-row-podcast-what-will-rbi-baseball-14-be/
Nothing substantial, but the guys discuss what to expect...
I can't make it, can you talk more about the technology? I'm not sure what this is...
Am I the only one who's getting a bit leery about the new RBI? Spring Training has already started, and while MLB The Show is not shipping until April this year, they usually ship in March (they're delaying it to make sure the PS4 version is ready), and here we are in March and RBI doesn't have so much as a screenshot or an achievement/trophy list, much less something of substance like gameplay footage or a trailer.
Quoteyou are difficult to talk to
I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but I'll bite, because well, you know, pots, kettles, black, and all that (as previous posts in this thread would indicate), but I digress. I was being 100% serious, I will likely never be able to get down to one of these events, and I was honestly intrigued by what technology you're talking about.
That said, Beef, I recently posted something similar to that that to @RBIGame on twitter...I'm losing faith in the whole thing. I'm not sure if they are doing this on purpose to keep people talking or if it's mismanaged or what's going on, but it's pretty crappy. I was hoping on RBI to get me to May for MLBTS...I'd like to at least hear SOMETHING about it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=forum+troll
I meant it in the sense that you were just trying to get a rise out of me, as there was no other reason to put "you are kind of hard to talk to lol" in your reply unless you were attempting to incite some kind of response from me. Especially when I'm over our whole spat and had no ill-intent in any of my words. In fact, I propose a little truce. We have both said our peace, and I'm all for trying to keep it chill from here on out.
We used to be forum buddies. Somewhere along the lines, we drifted apart. I started seeing other forums, you started a political movement. We became two different people. A single, lonesome tear rolls down my cheek.
If you agree to my olive branch, then we should play some RBI 14 if and when it comes out. If I remember correctly, I had the edge on you, though there's a good chance you've surpassed me since you obviously have had a lot of practice over the past few years.
I miss those leagues...
Wow. You have completely and utterly misread everything, but that's fine, it's obvious we'll never see eye to eye...noONE can say I didn't try.
Though, if for a moment you can unclench, perhaps you can clear something up. Aren't you "dirtyswinginace?" I thought we used to play RBI online vs. each other all the time and chat on IM about RBI...perhaps I'm confusing you with someone else. "Dirty Swinger" played 19 games on my rbi players site (http://rbibaseball.us/players)
If you are not the same, then my bad.
Either way, sounds like you're good where you're at, so I guess continue to do your thing being sensitive and completely misinterpreting everything I say. I'm quite sure I'm not alone in thinking you're a screwball...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_branch
I get it, if you don't understand something, you consider the person who said it "hard to talk to." Makes sense.
You talk about me getting away to Chicago like it's an easy thing to do when you have a good sized family and a busy schedule. I'd much rather be at my son's wrestling tournament or spending time with my family than playing RBI with a bunch of people I don't know. If I had free time and the ability to just get away whenever I wanted, it'd be a different story.
Again, completely misinterpreting me. Again, pot calling the kettle black.
Fair enough. I probably won't do the same, I have better things to do with my time, but let me know how it goes. I do base my happiness on what people I've never met before in another state may or may not think of me, especially based off of some false hearsay or misinterpreted forum posts, perpetuated by an unreasonable nutjob.
Ok.
Well, I'm glad that got ironed out.
What does the $2 go towards?
Any of that worth reading or was I correct in skipping everything longer than one sentence?
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back to the original topic...rbi release date is april 10...no ps4 or xbox one as of now.
http://toucharcade.com/2014/03/07/rbi-baseball-14-release-date/
Still no screenshots or anything, though.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 03/07/14, 03:47:44 PM
Still no screenshots or anything, though.
Yep not looking good...or maybe it is?
sweet jesus that podcast is 75 minutes long. Anyone who listened to it available to note the highlights?
Quote from: Turd on 02/28/14, 11:15:38 AM
http://www.operationsports.com/news/703256/press-row-podcast-what-will-rbi-baseball-14-be/
Nothing substantial, but the guys discuss what to expect...
http://deadspin.com/heres-what-the-new-r-b-i-baseball-game-will-look-like-1542223275
heres a few more screenshots on this site
http://www.operationsports.com/media/1123/rbi-baseball-14/
yuck...hope it plays like rbi
While I was hoping for pudgy fat guys, if the graphics are like tihs but the game plays like RBI, I'm totally happy with that...MLBTS for realism, RBI for arcade stuff.
Looks like I'll still have to make my RBI updates every year ;)
QuoteEach MLB team will feature 16 real players, but every player will be represented by one of three basic character models: average-sized guy, slugger, or little guy.
I like that the player models are simple, though I was hoping for more than 16 players. At least enough for a 4-man rotation...
From this article:
http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/12/5499176/r-b-i-baseball-14-mlb-preview-simple-fast-paced
QuoteR.B.I. 14 doesn't feature online play at all; multiplayer action is limited to local one-on-one games.
Fucking what? That is a major bummer. It better be really difficult in single player mode.
dead link
Quote from: hort22 on 03/12/14, 11:42:15 AM
heres a few more screenshots on this site
http://www.operationsports.com/media/1123/rbi-baseball-14/
yuck...hope it plays like rbi
Quote from: VEGAS on 03/12/14, 03:07:40 PM
dead link
Quote from: hort22 on 03/12/14, 11:42:15 AM
heres a few more screenshots on this site
http://www.operationsports.com/media/1123/rbi-baseball-14/
yuck...hope it plays like rbi
http://www.operationsports.com/media/1148/rbi-baseball-14/
dont know why they changed the link.
little more about it...nothing major
http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/new-rbi-baseball-aims-to-be-a-faithful-update-of-the-original/
Quote from: Turd on 03/12/14, 01:24:38 PM
QuoteEach MLB team will feature 16 real players, but every player will be represented by one of three basic character models: average-sized guy, slugger, or little guy.
I like that the player models are simple, though I was hoping for more than 16 players. At least enough for a 4-man rotation...
I get that they're trying to stay "true to the original", but given the fact that they added a season mode, bigger pitching rosters would've made sense - even the 6-man staffs from Baseball Simulator 1.000 would've helped. Also, since they have graphics in the vein of RBI 3, they could easily have justified at least having the option for a full roster, like RBI 3 had.
I can handle the rosters mostly. Biggest issue is no online play for me. I don't even know how they can release it like that. Most people these days don't have groups of friends to play it in person.
I seriously hope it's challenging enough.
Simple gameplay is key/...
When I first got my Playstation, I fiddled with Triple Play 2000 trying to get it to play like RBI. With the overhead batting view, it was surprisingly good, although there were too many buttons for my taste. I'm still quite intrigued by what RBI 14 could be, I want it to be just what they are promising: quick pick up game with little learning curve but fun competition. Yeah, I'm not happy about the online situation and the truncated rosters, but I'm still holding out hope of a fun purchase.
Agreed. Still giving it a chance.
I think this is enough info for a rare front page update.
Sucks about online play.
Sucks more about no fat guys.
Has there been any word on the music. Any chance they stay with the original?
really hoping this is released for Wii U as well...
Quote from: Gantry on 03/12/14, 05:05:53 PM
I think this is enough info for a rare front page update.
Done
Quote from: malnuboy on 03/12/14, 09:08:22 PM
Has there been any word on the music. Any chance they stay with the original?
Didn't see anything about it, but I bet they keep it. It's a common song for baseball in Japan isn't it? I think most of the Pro Yakyuu titles used it as well, fingers crossed
Quote from: TempoGL on 03/13/14, 12:04:29 AM
really hoping this is released for Wii U as well...
I'm going to guess this doesn't get any Wii-U love. It'd be cool, but I'm highly doubting it. Even PS4/XBOne is released after the other two...
Assume everyone just got this.
Bet there's an unlockable classic fat guy mode...
That'd be cool. I'm not terribly upset by the updated graphics, though I'm not gonna lie, that thing Tecmo did with their throwback where you could push a button and go from HD graphics to retro was fucking money. The only thing they did right with that game...taht way you could get a taste of both modes...
What ball player is supposed to be in the photo/ad? Looks like a Neanderthal.
Quote from: Dryden on 03/13/14, 10:04:50 AM
Assume everyone just got this.
In Super Famista 5 and Famista 64 the music is not the original RBI baseball tune so I doubt RBI '14 will use it. Plus I bet Namco has some kind of patent on the tune and it doesn't look like they had anything to do with RBI '14...which is a bad thing.
For me it will all come down to the fielding. If it plays more like Super RBI baseball than the original count me out.
Having it look like ichiro's avatar would be awesome! But yes, hopefully the fielding is the same as it used to be with maybe the ability to dive...
That would be funny to see those lifelike player models all moving together as one in the outfield. I suspect that aspect will be gone.
Never thought of that...that'll be interesting...
Quote from: fathedX on 03/13/14, 11:25:01 AM
That would be funny to see those lifelike player models all moving together as one in the outfield. I suspect that aspect will be gone.
That would be a HUGE change from the original gameplay, although it would make the computer opponent (an inexperienced humans) less susceptible to walking themselves into triples trying to get to grounders in the hole.
Quote from: Dryden on 03/13/14, 10:12:26 AM
Bet there's an unlockable classic fat guy mode...
Given the fact that they didn't bother to even put online play into this, I'm skeptical, even though it'd be cool.
Quote from: Turd on 03/13/14, 10:18:43 AM
That'd be cool. I'm not terribly upset by the updated graphics, though I'm not gonna lie, that thing Tecmo did with their throwback where you could push a button and go from HD graphics to retro was fucking money. The only thing they did right with that game...taht way you could get a taste of both modes...
What was your objection to Tecmo Bowl Throwback? I would've preferred the NES version instead of SNES, I guess, and the fact that you could modify names but not team colors was disappointing, but I thought the game itself was pretty decent, and it's cool to be able to play it on the Xbox, since my TSB cartridge is flaky.
I did notice a small but important behavior difference between the graphical modes. When using the classic graphics, the player indicator goes away during a handoff, so you can't tell if it's real or fake (consistent with the original). With the updated graphics, it's there the whole time, so you get tipped off earlier whether the opponent is running play-action.
Two big beefs...
Inability to edit teams, and player editing was really a pain.
Online play was bugged, so people could rage-quit and still get the win.
Oh and I don't remember there being any increases in difficulty, so single player mode was too easy.
The updated graphics on that game were actually pretty perfect. Modern but still cartoony. And as I said, the ability to switch graphics modes was a great thing.
Being one of the biggest SNES guys out there, I expected a lot, including the ability to share rosters and play leagues with friends. In their defense, I'm a power user and probably expected way too much out of it. Unfortunately, the game flopped in regards to sales, if I remember right, so they never had the chance to keep putting out releases with more features. That said, I hoped that they would get around the license by letting people edit them (even if they didn't provide logos) to be the correct teams. Seems like an easy feature that they just failed to implement.
I've since done a 180 and actually prefer the original TB game with the larger player models, 9 players per team, and 4 plays, but that game doesn't lend itself to a redux like the SNES or TSB for NES did.
In all honesty, if I had friends who played it, I'd probably buy it again and play it with them. But, I only have a PS4, so I don't even know if I can play it.
Quote from: Turd on 03/13/14, 01:02:02 PM
Two big beefs...
Inability to edit teams, and player editing was really a pain.
Online play was bugged, so people could rage-quit and still get the win.
I didn't get the game until a couple years after it came out (I was a late adopter of the Xbox 360), so I've never been able to even get into an online game, much less find out it was buggy. The editing was really a pain, I will agree - I spent a few lunch breaks going through most of the NFL and putting in player names, but it would've been miserable if not for the ability to hook up a keyboard to the 360.
Quote from: Turd on 03/13/14, 01:02:02 PM
Oh and I don't remember there being any increases in difficulty, so single player mode was too easy.
I thought the difficulty ramped up like usual during the season, but I've only played through one complete season, so maybe I'm just overrating how good I am (my Vikes pretty easily went 19-0, although my offense stuck for the last half of the season when the CPU clamped down on passing routes).
I totally understand your complaints, although I'm not expecting all that much more from RBI other than an MLB license.
The difficulty did ramp up...it's a juicing system, and it basically takes your wins - losses and applies juice...
1-0 = level 1 juice
10-5 = level 5 juice
16-0 = level 16 juice
Juice basically increases 5 attributes on Off. and 5 on Def. speed, INT, passing accuracy, etc. The coverage on your WR also never ramped up until late in the year, so even on high juice, you'd have guys wide open that was an auto TD.
For the ROMs, we would hack the juice to make every game play like you were undefeated in the super bowl, and also increased CPU coverage on RBs on the run and WR going for passes, so it was more difficult to crush the computer.
We also have juice in RBI which makes it inherently more difficult to beat the CPU. All things considered, to me the biggest killer for this game, at least for me will be if the game is as easy to beat on single player mode as it was originally. If that's the case, it's prettty much unplayable.
yah really wish they would have went in this art direction...this is from family stadium 2003 on the gamecube, released in japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6FrgJhCuOk&list=PLgwdsbkcm-n9do0wznRgydzIxpCk1G1eb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6FrgJhCuOk&list=PLgwdsbkcm-n9do0wznRgydzIxpCk1G1eb)
Quote from: Turd on 03/13/14, 01:44:25 PM
The difficulty did ramp up...it's a juicing system, and it basically takes your wins - losses and applies juice...
1-0 = level 1 juice
10-5 = level 5 juice
16-0 = level 16 juice
Juice basically increases 5 attributes on Off. and 5 on Def. speed, INT, passing accuracy, etc. The coverage on your WR also never ramped up until late in the year, so even on high juice, you'd have guys wide open that was an auto TD.
That's awesome - I never know how the actual formula worked, just that the computer got progressively tougher throughout the year.
I'm really hijacking this thread... do you have a link to how the juice effect works, more specifically? I'm really wondering about how the pass coverage works... it always appeared to me as the equivalent of the CPU rarely picking pass defenses early in the season and always picking pass defenses late in the season.
http://tecmobowl.org/topic/11363-juice-helper-spreadsheet/
Works same for SNES and NES.
TB is a whole different ball of wax...
Quote from: hort22 on 03/13/14, 01:54:04 PM
yah really wish they would have went in this art direction...this is from family stadium 2003 on the gamecube, released in japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6FrgJhCuOk&list=PLgwdsbkcm-n9do0wznRgydzIxpCk1G1eb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6FrgJhCuOk&list=PLgwdsbkcm-n9do0wznRgydzIxpCk1G1eb)
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Agreed - I think if you're not going for realistic appearance, going all-in on a cartoony style is better.
Still, if the game plays well and they keep releasing it every year with updated rosters and add features, this thing still has potential. I do like the screens they showed...
Quote from: Turd on 03/13/14, 03:31:14 PM
Still, if the game plays well and they keep releasing it every year with updated rosters and add features, this thing still has potential. I do like the screens they showed...
I was going to say that updates seemed unlikely, but the downloadable version of NBA Jam, released in 2011, was patched with roster updates last year before the playoffs and again during this past preseason. If RBI does well, that's probably not out of the question.
Absolutely. Hell, if it's good enough, I'd pay a reasonable amount for updates as a DLC purchase.
My close, personal friend Will Leitch played RBI Baseball 14 and gives it a thumbs up: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/71246016/rbi-baseball-14-video-game-appeals-to-nostalgia-and-fun
He also links to the Dee-Nee page for St. Louis, which is nice. And calls Dee-Nee.com "one of the Internet's finest achievements" which is OK, I guess.
Fantastic writeup. At this point I've resolved to the fact that I'll be happy as long as the CPU is challenging enough.
I've been tweeting with this Will Leitch guy..."I got the impression that online play was coming sooner than later."
Plus, there are more pics in that article, and it'll cost $5...I'll likely buy it for iPad AND PS4.
That's a great article, although it clearly says it's $20 for the consoles and $5 for the iPad
Correct, I forgot to mention the $5 is for the iDevices.
If they add retro teams/online play/league play, this this is well worth $20
Good writeup, I'm officially excited. Wish I had something I could play it on though - will have to buy it at the Good Brother's on Thursday.
PS4/XB1 are coming after the fact. That's a shame, hopefully it comes sooner than later...iPad will ahve to suffice for now...
Another review/preview along the same lines
http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/7/5590218/rbi-baseball-14-release-date-ps3-xbox-360-ios-hands-on-preview
A month delay on the next gen consoles? I'll have the show by then...ugh. SOmething needs to tie me over until May 6
That is crummy news, I can't see this being the same experience on an iPad without a controller.
Since when are download-only games $20? Of course I only have $17 in credit on my Microsoft account... looks like it's time to cash in some Bing Rewards.
Also, I enjoyed Leitch's article and the good words he said about our fearless leader.
Yeah, I understand the price but I don't like it a lot. I know it's old fashioned but I sure like having the physical game disc so you can take it places or look it over when you're reminiscing. I'll pay it but won't be thrilled about it.
Xbox 360 Achievement List (http://www.xboxachievements.com/game/rbi-baseball-14/achievements/)
Notably, there's one for a pitcher home run, so apparently that's a possibility (for those of us who are less awesome than BAINES) in the new version.
I want to know how the controls will work on the iPad iPhone. I'll buy for on the go. And cause it's my only option for now.
Yeah it's so cheap I'll buy it on Zorb's on Thursday. Still not expecting much. How the heck will you be able to pitch?
thanks for sharing the link. GREAT article.
Quote from: fightonusc on 04/07/14, 02:25:34 PM
My close, personal friend Will Leitch played RBI Baseball 14 and gives it a thumbs up: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/71246016/rbi-baseball-14-video-game-appeals-to-nostalgia-and-fun
He also links to the Dee-Nee page for St. Louis, which is nice. And calls Dee-Nee.com "one of the Internet's finest achievements" which is OK, I guess.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/08/14, 06:52:22 AM
Also for any XBOX experts out there, when they announce that a game is going to be available for download on a certain day does that mean it is available at midnight on that day? or is there a standard time on that day it becomes available for download?
I have not downloaded much on the XBOX but was wondering if I could expect when it would be available. Sweet Jesus, I feel like a kid on christmas eve :D
I'm pretty sure it's midnight Pacific time (since Microsoft is on the west coast). When I had the Xbox 360 on yesterday evening, there was a countdown for the Titanfall release (officially today), and that's what it was counting down to, although I suppose that could just be for the retail release. If it is midnight Pacific, then it will come out at 2 AM tomorrow morning for those of us in Central time.
But it's not available for the Xbox tomorrow, right? Or just one the one and is for the 360?
It is...tomorrow is xb360, PS3, and iOS. XB1/PS4/Android is coming later (possibly a month later, from what I hear).
Man, it'd be awesome if it supported something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Ion-Mobile-Controller-iPhone-ICG07/dp/B006ZZU450
Ah gotcha - hopefully the Good Brother still uses his PS3 somewhere and we can play it.
One of the best micro-beers ever made. Do you have to come to WI to get it, or do they sell it down in Chi-town?
The Good Brother has made mutiple runs to Woodman's in Kenosha to get Spotted Cow, pretty sure it still isn't available here.
any news on if we are getting more then one stadium?
how many of you are buying tomorrow?
also spotted cow...what does it taste like? would like a real response from you fellas instead of a snob on beeradvocate or ratebeer.
It's a farmhouse ale. Light. Crispy. Refreshing. I know very few people who don't like it, including IPA fans to fans of Belgians and wheats. New glarus has some great stuff outside of this as well.
I'm buying the game tomorrow, most likely on the 360.
I live in something of a craft beer mecca but still wish I could try this cow stuff. The map on their website says it's only available in WI for the most part.
Another dee née fest Milwaukee ends to happen. You can get all you want. It really is fantastic beer. Easily one of my faves.
Quote from: hort22 on 04/08/14, 11:34:50 AM
any news on if we are getting more then one stadium?
The infield grasses look authentic. The Tigers have the home plate pentagon shaped dirt. I haven't seen enough of the outfield walls to know if those will be stadium specific or not.
I'm going to pick it up for my ipad tomorrow and probably wait until it comes out on PS4 to get a console version. Either that or just get it on PS3 if I get too impatient.
I thought I read there were stadiums. The screenshots at least show the stadium name.
Quote from: hort22 on 04/08/14, 11:34:50 AM
any news on if we are getting more then one stadium?
how many of you are buying tomorrow?
Like the other guys said, it looks from the screenshots like we'll get unique stadiums - it would be especially cool to have unlockable retro stadiums, including the original RBI one, although I doubt that's likely.
I'll be picking it up tomorrow, assuming my Bing Rewards credits can be converted into MS credit by then.
I never thought of that. The original RBI stadium would be great!
Quote from: Turd on 04/08/14, 03:23:29 PM
I never thought of that. The original RBI stadium would be great!
Were I in charge of this game, the original RBI stadium would also have wallzies.
Another fantastic article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rbi-baseball--14-is-here-in-all-its-simple--perfect-glory-193246243.html
Here's the best part:
Which may be sooner than we thought. At the time, Leece said, RBI did not have definitive plans to include a multiplayer system in which you could play a friend online. That changed Tuesday. A source close to the game told Yahoo Sports that RBI '14 plans to offer a multiplayer option available via free download this summer. In addition will come updates with players like Masahiro Tanaka, who isn't in the game because he wasn't on a major league roster at the end of last season.
If you watch the fly ball at the start of that video it shows the outfield wall of Miller Park. It looks like the stadium fences will be the right dimensions too. That's awesome.
I didn't even notice the video! Awesome. I'd be happy even if the stadiums were represente but not perfect replicas...
I wonder what they're going to do about DH since they're only 16 players that means there's no DH position. Are pitched going to like in the original
They can't have that, they just can't. It has to be adjustable or DH in AL parks or something. I doubt it will fly with anyone but this crowd to have a Bo vs NY game and have Lester bat with Papi on the bench. That's taking nostalgia to a dangerous place.
I agree but with 16 players that leaves four pitchers and 12 hitting players hopefully they allows to set one of those bench players as a DH but I seriously doubt it from what I've heard
Did siri post that?
Ha ha yes. Siri usually works great but sometimes it royally fucks up my dictation
Forgot about the DH situation, I guess we'll see...
truth!
Quote from: fathedX on 04/08/14, 04:52:06 PM
They can't have that, they just can't. It has to be adjustable or DH in AL parks or something. I doubt it will fly with anyone but this crowd to have a Bo vs NY game and have Lester bat with Papi on the bench. That's taking nostalgia to a dangerous place.
It will probably automatically put the first guy off the bench as the 9 hitter for AL games. Thats what they did in RBI 2 and 3.
That'd work just fine
How does it work in Interleague or World Series games?
Same way. If home team is AL it'll use first spot off the bench.
Quote from: Turd on 04/08/14, 06:17:39 PM
Same way. If home team is AL it'll use first spot off the bench.
To fuck Gantry's boycunt.
This has been confirmed.
Quote
To fuck Gantry's boycunt.
This has been confirmed.
Fair's fair...
OK got an email from the RBI 14 folks, some sites for you:
http://rbigame.com <- not much there now
https://twitter.com/rbigame <- their twitter account with over 10K followers
http://www.rbiempire.com/ <- new fan based site on the new game
Thanks for the shoutout Gantry! It's my first shot at a web page. I'm still a noob at the whole website building thing. If anyone has suggestions on improvements let me know!
If you need assistance, of course you know I do websites for a living ;) I'd offers assistance for free. Hell, I'd even let you use my domain at rbibaseball.us if you'd rather. If not I'd still help.
Great idea, btw. I fully support it!
I didn't know that. That's awesome. I will definitely hit you up if I need assistance.
Thanks for starting it! We need more RBI sites, keep it up. I'd say keep the blog going with updates/reviews/etc and you'll be just fine - content is king. I'll be updating dee-nee but it won't get too much RBI14 stuff outside of forum generated content and front page updates. So make yourself the source for all things 14!
Yeah. The planned ideas you mentioned are great. Rosters are a great start that will surely attract people.
Will do! I plan on blogging tomorrow night after I get a few games under my belt with first impressions and more gameplay screenshots.
Quote from: Turd on 04/08/14, 07:37:58 PM
I'd even let you use my domain at rbibaseball.us if you'd rather. If not I'd still help.
I was able to get the domain on godaddy for 2 years for $12 so I'm good for a while. Once that runs out I will definitely look over some new options. Right now I'm using their website builder. I have very limited experience with HTML so it works great for me for now.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/08/14, 07:54:25 PM
Dirty Swinger catches RBI messiah shooting star while driving and getting the rainbow money shot or one UFO in Kenosha boathouse
The aliens are coming to get the new RBI 14 technology.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/08/14, 07:48:21 PM
Will do! I plan on blogging tomorrow night after I get a few games under my belt with first impressions and more gameplay screenshots.
Great, definitely post some links here when you get some new blog posts up
You poor bastards. I go to any local grocery store or liquor store for Spotted Cow. Guess I am spoiled. Spotted Cow and RBI what a great combo.
Me too. I have a 12er in my fridge right now. Actually it's currently a 10er but y get the point.
Ill PayPal shipping and the cost of a beer to try this spotted cow...any takers?
I don't think it's very legal...but don't think jail time would be involved...
Bought it for iDevices. Tried a game on my iPad...the Brewers have 3 SP and 1 RP. That really kills the way I like to play, which is 1 SP per game...plus, I threw one pitch, it stuttered and then crashed on me. Not a great first impression, but I'll keep trying. It IS an iPad2, but still...
Ouch.... are you saying you didn't get past one pitch?
The catcher caught it and then it crashed.
I just loaded up a second try and no more crash, but it is unplayable on the iPad2. It skips a bunch of frames, almost like you're playing with online lag.
Does the Apple App store let you restrict downloads/purchases based on devices? The Google Play store checks for a compatible phone/tablet before getting an app...
I think it can. the iPad2 should be powerful enough to handle this game, it an handle much fancier shit, I'm hoping it's just something on my device. it's been chugging a lot on opening apps lately anyways, perhaps I just need to restart it.
Played on the iPhone5, it works really well, though it's harder to see. Still, nothing will compare to when we can use an actual controller...
Does it have an on screen controller or something? Seems silly to even make it for the idevices if you have no joystick.
yes, it's an onscreen controller. Throwing and whatnot is fine, but movement is weird.
Also, it works better on the iPad after a reboot...
So, just played a 3 inning game. Here's my take on the iOS version...
Positives:
Fun, quick play just like we remember. Graphics are fun and fit the style well and gameplay was smooth. Enjoyable game when taking a shit or killing time. It's actually a lot of fun, and the computer is definitely harder to beat than the original. They dive, jump, and go after grounders. It's also harder to hit as they vary their pitch selection.
Negatives:
Strictly related to the iOS, fielding is almost impossible on standard. You need to set it to "automatic" or "assisted" which moves the fielder but you still throw the ball. Not a great way around that part on a device with no controller. There are 3 SP and 1 RP, at least for Milwaukee. This is dumb. Why not 2/2 like the original?
Somewhere in between:
The stadiums, at least as far as I can tell are not fully rendered stadiums, but they are personalized with team colors and dugout graphics. I'm actually OK with this. They don't need to be flashy, but it does need to feel like home when you're playing. Also, the unlockables are going to be tough. To unlock the retro brewers jersey, you need to be down by 4 runs and then hit a walk-off HR in a season game. But, I guess cool stuff should be something you have to work for. Might be kind of fun trying to get all the unlockables, but that also requiring to do it in a season game is going to be tough since I'm not gonna play a season with everyone.
I haven't tested the DH thing yet...
$20 on console. Kinda high people.
I played three innings on an ipad 2. Stuttered a bunch, almost unplayable. I threw the pitch down the middle on every batter and didn't give up any hits until the pitcher came up. I got some hits but hitting was a struggle with so many missed frames. Three starting pitchers on the Rockies as well. Controls were adequate, assisted fielding pretty much takes you out of it but at least no dumb misses because I didn't know what was going on. I stole two bases standing up, got caught once when I started late but at least I did slide that time (not controllable I don't think). I will reboot and try again but I am concerned. I'll download it to my iPhone 5 too, the splash screen said it was optimized for the 5.
Fathed, I had the same exact issues and the reboot made it play perfectly. No idea why, but I know my iPad was acting weird for a while too. I really find myself missing the controls though. I'd consider buying one of those snap on controllers if I knew it'd be compatible, but I doubt it. Sigh, looks like I wait for the PS4, or continue to work on my ROM :)
Quote from: Turd on 04/09/14, 08:19:13 AM
Also, the unlockables are going to be tough. To unlock the retro brewers jersey, you need to be down by 4 runs and then hit a walk-off HR in a season game. But, I guess cool stuff should be something you have to work for. Might be kind of fun trying to get all the unlockables, but that also requiring to do it in a season game is going to be tough since I'm not gonna play a season with everyone.
Yeah, that kinda sucks. I suppose the solution is to start a fresh season when you want to try and work on a team's unlockable jersey and just play it until you get the unlock.
If my Amazon gift card through Bing Rewards doesn't come through by lunchtime, I'm just going to buy the extra MS credit and use the gift card on something else.
The Twins are going to be SO TERRIBLE in this game. I suppose that will help to up the challenge factor.
I think the challenge factor has been upped anyways. I doubt you'll win every game like you could in the original where you realistically could go 162-0 with 100% mercy rules. I wish my xb360 didn't red ring on me.
Same stuttering issues on Ipad and then it crashed for me in the bottom on the first inning. I hope the reboot fixes this. Also, I have a blu-tooth game controller I'm hoping (
praying) it might work with this game. I'll test that out later today.
Quote from: fathedX on 04/09/14, 08:34:02 AM
I played three innings on an ipad 2. Stuttered a bunch, almost unplayable. I threw the pitch down the middle on every batter and didn't give up any hits until the pitcher came up. I got some hits but hitting was a struggle with so many missed frames. Three starting pitchers on the Rockies as well. Controls were adequate, assisted fielding pretty much takes you out of it but at least no dumb misses because I didn't know what was going on. I stole two bases standing up, got caught once when I started late but at least I did slide that time (not controllable I don't think). I will reboot and try again but I am concerned. I'll download it to my iPhone 5 too, the splash screen said it was optimized for the 5.
Please do report back on that controller.
its supposedly out for the 360...thats what the twitter page of @RBIGAME says...ps3 out later today.
also damn was looking for HR distance to be included...looks like its not. :(
Just kicked off the download on my 360... I've got an appointment over my usual lunch break today but will try to work in a break from work at some point to give it a shot.
Much smoother on the iphone 5, played 5 innings and was losing 3-2 ( I swing at most everything, I'm guessing Samardzija is at maybe 40 pitches through 5). Haven't noticed any pitcher fatigue yet, fastballs are coming in at 96-98. The curveball wiggle is still there but I'm still swinging, bitch.
The ball physics down the line is weird, everything goes straight and nothing curves foul. I've seen that probably five times now, you hit an opposite field fly ball right down the line and it just keeps going straight and lands fair. I'm ok with that, just kinda weird considering all the other things the game does right.
I noticed in Wrigley field that when the outfielder had to retrieve a ball in the corner and went out of sight, the player turned into a ghost so you could still see him. Really cool. No ivy by the way.
I continue to throw the ball right down the middle and the CPU continues to get itself out most times. I did give up a towering home run in the second inning but then the next batter swung through three of these pitches. Almost seems like a glitch, next game I will move the ball around and see if the CPU hits any better.
Overall it's pretty fun, I like many of the things they kept. I even threw the ball to the wall after my first baseman fielded a grounder and I tried throwing to the base. Got the 'old school' banner when that happened.
Still haven't tried an AL park to see what the deal is with the DH. Has anyone yet?
I tried it with the Brewers in an AL park and I confirmed that it used the first guy off the bench for DH. I need to et used to moving my fielder to 1st instead of throwing it if noone is there...the onscreen controls are still a little wonky. That said, I am getting better with the controls. Fun game...no replacement for the original, though it's close. It misses on a few things, I think. I'll play through a seasn and see if it gets more difficult. That's my only concern...
Can anyone confirm if there is an option for online play?
It's been confirmed a few times now that there is no online play, although Jeff Passan mentioned in his review on Yahoo that it's being strongly considered as a free update this summer.
Actually, it was recently confirmed in one of the above articles by the developer that online play will be coming in a free download this summer.
If anyone has played it on the 360 or PS3 please let me know how the fielding is. Since only one fielder moves instead of all the fielders in unison it will be interesting to see if it's better or worse.
Also does it show the box score with individual stats at the end of the game? During season mode does it keep stats and does it have league leaders?
THe end of game screen only shows the team score, with the addition of batting average. I believe that they said no individual stats for a given season, but I ahven't tried it yet.
Quote from: Turd on 04/09/14, 10:40:15 AM
THe end of game screen only shows the team score, with the addition of batting average. I believe that they said no individual stats for a given season, but I ahven't tried it yet.
Yeah, saw that in Leitch's article as well.
P.S. You can tell a pitcher is tired by how he looks before he pitches. His body will be slumped a little with his head hanging, but only if there's not a runner on base. He pitches from the stretch in that scenario...
Picked it up for my ipad 3 this morning. Mine crashed as well on the initial boot up. I restarted and haven't had any problems since.
I've played through a 3 inning game and a 9 inning game with the Braves and an All-Star game as the NL vs. the AL.
Controls took a bit to get used to but I am getting used to them. I lost to the Royals 0-1 and to Milwaukee 5-8. As the NL I beat the AL 14-6. It's definitely harder and takes some adjustments.
Different hitters definitely make a difference. Uggla and BJ Upton like to strike out regardless of how I swing, which is accurate.
Medlen was a lot better than Teheran for the Braves. I threw 6 innings of 1 run ball with Medlen. Teheran came in and gave up 7 runs in 2 innings. Part of that was me missing 2 fly balls on standard fielding. I hadn't missed any up to that point. But his pitches didn't curve near as much as Medlen's.
Standard fielding is super difficult on the iPad.
its out on the psn network
https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/rbi-baseball-14/cid=UP2121-NPUB31467_00-RBIBASEBALL00001
Just played my first game on the Xbox - got shellacked by the White Sox, using the Twins. Thoughts...
The batter-pitcher matchup is very similar. The bats are more realistically skinny, so it feels like you have to be more precise with your swing timing and location, although I got use to it after striking out with my first two batters - I think I ended up striking out about a half-dozen times. CPU players will chase curveballs off the plate sometimes, and I struck out about six of my opponents as well.
Baserunning used the old controls but had a couple major departures from the original behavior. In the original RBI, if you wanted to have your runner stretch a single into a double, you could hold up-B as he approached first, and he'd automatically make the turn and keep going. In this one, the up-X isn't registered unless it's pressed after the runner is already at the previous base, so if you hit one into the gap, you basically have to hold up and pound X to make sure he gets off to second base quickly. The other big difference is the runners' behavior. In this one, they don't automatically take off if they're not force (depending on the situation). If there's a grounder to the right side of the infield, you have to remember to manually send your runner from second base.
I will note that some of this is sour grapes because I sucked at it, and it will improve as I get use to it, but at the moment I would describe fielding as an absolute fucking disaster. The fact that players don't move in unison means that only one of your fielders is active at a time, which also means that you have to remember to hit "A" to switch fielders once the ball gets by your infielder, something I have never done before in a baseball game (I have played very little of simulation-style games, if this is normal there). In addition, you have no choice which infielder goes after a ball, and I got caught a couple times trying to use the wrong guy - I can recall one where a ball into the hole on the left side seemed like a natural one for the shortstop, only they'd given me the third baseman with no way to switch.
It's the outfielding that's really the pain in the ass, though. The game either needs a smaller outfield or faster outfielders, because by the time they get into view on the screen, it's VERY difficult to get them lined up with a fly ball before it drops. The original had an unrealistically small outfield (I think someone measured that, given the length of the baselines, the fences would be something like 200' down the lines) that kept fly balls manageable; this game appears to do no such thing, and while it's more zoomed out than something like Griffey on the SNES, it still could use a radar like Griffey had to keep track of your outfielders.
Once I get use to the fielding, I think I will grow to like this game. At the moment, though, it was a fairly fun offensive experience interspersed with a tremendous exercise in frustration that did not at all resemble the game we all love.
The switching fielders thing is pretty normal for modern baseball games. I think it'll just take some getting used to. I played on iPad, but I noticed the same baserunning thing where you can't stretch it until your on the base. Frustrating.
I'm still only playing on the iOS platforms but I did think more than once that the outfield situation felt a lot like RBI 4 or '93 on the Genesis, you seemingly get a window and only one outfielder, with no real frame of reference. It's frustrating and a far cry from the original.
It might not feel quite like the original, but I thought the fielding was pretty solid on PS3.
I did have one play where I threw to second on a grounder to short to get the out and the second basemen ran across but never touched the bag. I didn't realize it until after I threw to first. I'll have to play with it to see what the deal is there.
As far as outfielders go, I had 1 play where my left fielder felt slow, but I found that if the ball is hit and I start running right away toward the ball that they will get to most balls unless they're deep in the gap or corner. I was able to top the Brew Crew 7-2 at Miller Park.
On a side note, it takes a shot to hit the ball 400 feet. I had a couple deep flies to CF that did not go out. On the contrary Justin Upton hit an oppo HR to RF and pulled one out to LF. Heyward also hit one out to deep RF. Both those fences are around 345 feet. I'm going to say that the fences are pretty close to accurate when it comes to dimensions.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/09/14, 02:40:26 PM
It might not feel quite like the original, but I thought the fielding was pretty solid on PS3.
I did have one play where I threw to second on a grounder to short to get the out and the second basemen ran across but never touched the bag. I didn't realize it until after I threw to first. I'll have to play with it to see what the deal is there.
I had the same thing happen to me once. Not sure if that means I just need to wait longer to make the turn on the DP, or if we got hit by a glitch.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/09/14, 02:40:26 PM
As far as outfielders go, I had 1 play where my left fielder felt slow, but I found that if the ball is hit and I start running right away toward the ball that they will get to most balls unless they're deep in the gap or corner.
My big problem was gauging the depth of the fielders - most of the ball's flight takes place with your fielder off-screen and only tracked by the arrow indicator, and by the time I figured out where the ball was going to land, the fielder was too slow for me to adjust his position correctly. Fielder placement is one of those things that you learn by playing in a baseball game (I'm sure I had the same problem with RBI at one point), so I'm guessing I'll get the hang of it better, but it was a huge annoyance for someone who was hoping for it to be a lot closer to the original.
I thought th same thing. Standard fielding is really tough.
I'll probably be a no go for this game due to the fielding aspect. It's too bad Namco couldn't have signed on for this one. I look forward to the REAL RBI 2014 via Turd's ROM!
Yeah. Reinspired :) I'll still plY it though
Haven't installed it for iPad 2 yet. Installed XBox 360 trial. Played 3-inning Red Sox-Cards game and Nava for BOS smacked 2 dingers. Unfortunately, the Cards teed off on my starter Lackey (edit) for 6 runs in the bottom of the third and Sox lose, 6-5. One note: While the home run animation was okay, I was hoping the homers would show the distance hit -- say "389 Feet" -- or even a quick replay of my shot. Maybe those items can be fixed with a patch or update. On the plus side, game play goes pretty fast, which has always been a problem for big league sims (besides R.B.I. of course). Game play (including flight of ball) looks very similar to R.B.I. 3 or R.B.I. 4 on Genesis with the exception of modern/superior graphics. David Ortiz looks fatter than other guys so there is realism although you don't ever see their faces. I don't have base running down yet and, on defense, I threw a couple of balls "south" toward the backstop that were intended for other bases. Errors show a "!" and I had one at first base and the computer made two. No major complaints but I guess I'll just have to pay the $20 to try out my Cincinnati Reds ;)
My shortstop booted the very first ball put in play against me. "Welcome to RBI 14, n00b!"
I'm sure the fielding is better on the Xbox than on the iPad. Does it use a virtual joystick, or a click-and-drag mechanic of some sort, or what?
Still not positive whether to use the D-pad or the joystick; I mostly used the D-pad my first game. Using the joystick does do fully analog control, rather than just 8-way like it does with lots of old-school games, but I worry that it's going to be slow or imprecise for throws. Then again, I managed to throw the ball to the wrong base (third instead of home) at least twice in my first game - "precision" is a relative term with the worthless D-pad on an Xbox controller.
One of the achievements mentions a "fast throw", but I haven't been able to figure out exactly how to do that - I threw the ball around a bit after giving up hits, and it seemed like hitting the direction and button simultaneously didn't really make any difference.
The achievements thing seems like a good idea, though all games probably do that at this point eh?
Quote from: Gantry on 04/09/14, 06:07:11 PM
The achievements thing seems like a good idea, though all games probably do that at this point eh?
Yah most do...they are called trophies on psn...always thought they called them that cause gamers probably never ventured outside to win an actual trophy...lol
There's already emails with the old school Dee-Nee crew to get together and play this when the PS4 version comes out. I'm guessing we'll rock Anything Goes on this version, though one never knows.
Quote from: Gantry on 04/09/14, 06:07:11 PM
The achievements thing seems like a good idea, though all games probably do that at this point eh?
Microsoft has required games to have achievements since the Xbox 360 came out.
The highest-point achievement in RBI '14 is "Complete 5 R.B.I. Challenges" - I'm not really sure what that refers to, although I'm guessing maybe it's the things to unlock the retro jerseys.
I generally stay up late playing video games on Wednesday nights, so I'll try out a few more games tonight and see if I can get the hang of fielding better.
Most important question... if we get the Android version, can we edit the rosters?
As in...
Can we do fantasy baseball in RBI 14?
I'd bet a copy of the game that we can't. The other versions don't allow it, android is no different.
Quote from: Turd on 04/09/14, 10:54:31 PM
I'd bet a copy of the game that we can't. The other versions don't allow it, android is no different.
It's Android, it's usually much easier to get into files and mod stuff compared to a console.
Not something I'm capable of but I want fantasy back
Yeah, I'm betting it ain't happening. Use my rom for it. I made good progress today.
I played 10 games today. It is a very good game. I would have liked to hear more original RBI music and option for online play. My understanding they will add the online play option so that makes it sweeter. Very nice work. I totally approve this version of R.B.I.
I approve as well. I figured it would be good seeing that the game's producer wanted to kick it old-school. It lives up to it. Yes, it's a different game, but it's closer to RBI 1, 2 & 3 than it is to RBI '94.
I made it through 8 games tonight and won 7 of them. My only loss was as the Mariners to the Twins. Dozier hit a Grand Slam off of me. I couldn't recover. My quickest game on PS3 was 18 minutes. Most took 22-23 minutes. Still a hell of a lot faster than The Show or 2k. The fielding got a lot better as I played. I really like how it feels now.
Got a new blog up!
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/
Rebooted my iPad 2 and played a great game as the dodgers vs the cards. Had a blast, took 24 mins for 10 innings. I'm happy with the game, just what I was looking for. Damn CPU executed a beautiful hit and run with two outs, I had to laugh.
Will be trying it out today at Zorbs, though since we don't have a ton of time (mini family fest) I may just get the iPad version instead of blowing $20 on the XBox 360 to use for maybe a couple games.
Got in three more games, starting a season with the Twins. Additional thoughts...
- Fielding has grown on me quite a bit, and I think part of the problem before was that in my first game, the CPU was just teeing off on me. In my season games, they were no longer launching everything into the gaps like they did in the preseason blowout. Also, I'm slowly figuring out the balls' trajectory and having at least a general idea where my outfielders are - it seems like the ball carries much farther than you would expect given its speed, and I've learned to account for that. It's like playing the outfield in real life - your first step should be back. Switching players manually is still dumb, for what that's worth - it should auto-switch to an outfielder as soon as the ball gets past an infielder. That isn't rocket science; Griffey Baseball was doing that effectively in 1994.
- SO MUCH STATION-TO-STATION PLAY. I think the problem is partially that I'm using the Twins, whose leading home run hitter had 18 last year. In four full games, I have yet to hit a home run, and in one game I had 18 singles and one double. In that way, it reminds me a lot of Griffey, in which a hit off the wall was often a single. At least you can effectively score from second on singles - in Griffey, you spent a lot of time with the bases loaded.
- The rosters were apparently from early in Spring Training. The Twins' roster has three guys who did not making the Opening Day roster - Alex Presley is leading off (he was waived and picked up by the Astros), and Chris Parmelee (passed through waivers, in AAA) and Chris Herrmann (optioned to AAA, although he's currently with the Twins as a DL replacement) are on the bench. The Twins are probably a special case, since they're a crappy team whose roster was in a lot of flux, but I still found it interesting that they didn't update the rosters in the two weeks before release. Jason Kubel, Aaron Hicks, and Josmil Pinto would be the new guys on the roster, all of whom would probably upgrade the terrible offense (Hicks can't hit, but at least he's fast).
One more thing - I think the "retreat" still works. I thought about it 7 innings into my last game, in a moment of frustration with my players never hitting anything out of the goddamned infield, and tried consciously attempting to pull back on the controller when swinging. In that limited sample, it certainly seemed like I was hitting more balls in the air to the outfield when I did that, and the one time I pushed up while swinging resulted in a grounder.
The rosters thing seems like a pretty glaring omission, though I assume they can do a game update and get the proper ones in at anytime?
I get what you are saying about "station to station play" but I have no idea what that term means
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 08:03:36 AM
One more thing - I think the "retreat" still works. I thought about it 7 innings into my last game, in a moment of frustration with my players never hitting anything out of the goddamned infield, and tried consciously attempting to pull back on the controller when swinging. In that limited sample, it certainly seemed like I was hitting more balls in the air to the outfield when I did that, and the one time I pushed up while swinging resulted in a grounder.
:thumbsup: This would make me quite happy
I think they are doing a roster update soon. That'd be good cause there are a few guys not on the team anymore either for the Crew.
Does it bother anyone else that there are three SP's?
I'm sure all old school people would prefer 2RPs but not a deal breaker to me. Seems weird though
Quote from: Gantry on 04/10/14, 08:11:35 AM
I get what you are saying about "station to station play" but I have no idea what that term means
It means advancing one base at a time, no more - runners rarely go first-to-third or second-to-home on a single, and there are not a lot of extra-base hits. I assume it's a metaphor where the bases represent train stations.
Quote from: Turd on 04/10/14, 08:12:44 AM
Does it bother anyone else that there are three SP's?
A bit. Partially, I'd like to replace Phil Hughes with one of the Twins' many non-shitty relief pitchers, but it also makes it more difficult to have a war of attrition, trying to gain an advantage by tiring out your opponent's pitchers. Big strategy change there.
In season mode, it automatically picks your starting pitcher for you, and all three starters are available each game. I haven't played a vs. exhibition game to see whether it starts up a 7-game series like it did in the original - if it doesn't, that would also be a pretty glaring omission.
I wouldn't consider that an omission. I think the mindset is they have a season mode, so doing a series isn't as big of a deal...that was basically the original's version of a season mode.
Quote from: Turd on 04/10/14, 08:51:43 AM
I wouldn't consider that an omission. I think the mindset is they have a season mode, so doing a series isn't as big of a deal...that was basically the original's version of a season mode.
Sorry, that wasn't clear - I'm talking about for two-player games. The original did 7-game series, and the sequels even staged 2-3-2 home field format.
RBI 2 and 3 even varied how the single-player games worked, based on what team you used. If you picked a regular AL/NL team and an opponent in the same league, you'd play through the league in "season mode", like in the original (culminating with a faceoff against the Tengen team). If you used a historical team or picked an opponent in the opposite league, you'd play a best-of-7 series against them.
Gotcha, I see what you mean.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 07:54:47 AM
- it seems like the ball carries much farther than you would expect given its speed, and I've learned to account for that. It's like playing the outfield in real life - your first step should be back. Switching players manually is still dumb, for what that's worth - it should auto-switch to an outfielder as soon as the ball gets past an infielder.
I noticed the same thing on line drives. They carry like a baseball. I would compare that to the original RBI where the ball carries more like a softball in that game. Line drives go deep but then fall straight down like a softball. In this game line drives carry and descend like a line drive in baseball and high fly balls in this game ascend and descend in about the same arc. And the switching players thing is pretty awful. I've had to play defense on some hard hit grounders and it gets to my outfielder before I even see him. You have to trust that the CPU is going to get there.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 07:54:47 AM- SO MUCH STATION-TO-STATION PLAY.
I haven't had quite the experience with this that you've had. I play mostly as the Braves and they hit their fare share of home runs. I'm 9 games into the season and I've hit a home run with everyone in the line-up except for the pitcher spot. I know pitchers can hit them though. Jose Fernandez hit a rocket 3-run shot off of me in a humbling 0-11 beat down by the CPU. I still haven't hit a pinch-hit home run either.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 07:54:47 AM- The rosters were apparently from early in Spring Training.
I had the exact same beef about this. If they waited until the season was nearly 2 weeks old to put out the game you would think with a team of 40+ that they could have done a semi-quick roster update without messing up too much. I have read that they will have new rosters up this summer. Probably around the same time they add online play.
I'll have a more complete review in my next blog entry as well. There is a lot to talk about with this game.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/10/14, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 07:54:47 AM
- it seems like the ball carries much farther than you would expect given its speed, and I've learned to account for that. It's like playing the outfield in real life - your first step should be back. Switching players manually is still dumb, for what that's worth - it should auto-switch to an outfielder as soon as the ball gets past an infielder.
I noticed the same thing on line drives. They carry like a baseball. I would compare that to the original RBI where the ball carries more like a softball in that game. Line drives go deep but then fall straight down like a softball. In this game line drives carry and descend like a line drive in baseball and high fly balls in this game ascend and descend in about the same arc. And the switching players thing is pretty awful. I've had to play defense on some hard hit grounders and it gets to my outfielder before I even see him. You have to trust that the CPU is going to get there.
I think my problem is that, at least compared to the original, it seems like the fly balls don't descend fast enough given how slow they are moving through the air. I think that's by design, given that the outfielders are slow and have a lot of ground to cover, but it gave me fits my first game, and I'm only now getting somewhat use to it.
Also, fathed noted this earlier, and I will second the observation - batted balls don't appear to hook or slice at all. In the original, you'd quite often see some curve on balls that were pulled or pushed toward the lines, but that doesn't appear to be the case at all in this version.
I'm reaching out to the RBIGame Twitter account to see if I could get someone from the dev team interested in an interview - I'd like to ask them about the technical aspects of the game, particularly how familiar they were with all the guts that nightwulf and the gang have discovered about the original, and how much of that they put (or attempted to put) into RBI '14.
I played a three inning game last night on the ipad. I've never played any sort of game on the ipad before so it was certainly a different experience. Still fun. My timing on hitting was shit but did hit a game winner in the bottom of the third. Will definitely be playing more, and chubbs is getting it for the xbox. We're planning an RBI night in the next couple weeks.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 09:43:53 AM
Also, fathed noted this earlier, and I will second the observation - batted balls don't appear to hook or slice at all. In the original, you'd quite often see some curve on balls that were pulled or pushed toward the lines, but that doesn't appear to be the case at all in this version.
I've noticed that fair balls actually curve toward center field when hit in the air. Foul balls don't come back to fair territory, but if it's hit to mid-right field it will slowly curve toward center field. I'm not sure if it's a camera trick or if they meant to do that. Home Runs do it as well.
And I got the jerseys up with all the unlocks on the rbi empire website. Click the sig
RBIEmpire, did you see the thread I started for you? We started adding rosters and whatnot for our teams to help your project out...
Also, a bunch of your links are broken...if you click into teams and then click any of the links, you get a 404 error...I also couldn't find the jerseys on your site...
Quote from: Turd on 04/10/14, 01:33:12 PM
RBIEmpire, did you see the thread I started for you? We started adding rosters and whatnot for our teams to help your project out...
I didn't see it! Thanks! That will definitely help out.
As far as the broken links on the site go, I'm not sure what the deal is. Last night on my home PC it was broken like what you're saying but today here on my work PC it's working just fine. I'm not sure what the deal is. Gantry, Mr. Web Design, any ideas?
It's working now. It must have been cached (or not published).
Two tips, RBIEmp:
1.) Consider selecting the alt jersey and then taking the snapshot to get rid of that little checkbox in the corner
2.) Consider making the images single images instead of one large image so that you can link them to the team pages. It's always a nice UX to have anywhere you see something involving a team that you can click it and drill into the team details.
Quote from: Turd on 04/10/14, 02:37:50 PM
Two tips, RBIEmp:
1.) Consider selecting the alt jersey and then taking the snapshot to get rid of that little checkbox in the corner
2.) Consider making the images single images instead of one large image so that you can link them to the team pages. It's always a nice UX to have anywhere you see something involving a team that you can click it and drill into the team details.
I thought about removing the checks about half way through editing the pics. I will get it done but it'll have to be something I do after I get the rosters going.
I didn't even think of making them into links to each team roster. That's a great idea. I'll have to figure out how to do that through the website builder.
Quote from: Turd on 04/10/14, 02:37:50 PM
Two tips, RBIEmp:
1.) Consider selecting the alt jersey and then taking the snapshot to get rid of that little checkbox in the corner
2.) Consider making the images single images instead of one large image so that you can link them to the team pages. It's always a nice UX to have anywhere you see something involving a team that you can click it and drill into the team details.
Love both of those ideas. One more for you - it might be a nice touch to make the picture (and maybe the text) in your "Remember the original" space on the front page link to Dee-Nee.
You guys are really going to make me learn actual web design! ^-^
Right now I'm limited by the website builder on godaddy.com, but I should be able to link all of that stuff.
Keep the ideas flowing!
Tough but fair RBI '14 review by Grant Brisbee on SBNation (http://www.sbnation.com/2014/4/10/5601308/rbi-baseball-14-review-ps3-360). I completely agree with is last two paragraphs:
QuoteNow picture this: The original game, gameplay completely intact, warts and all. The original game with updated rosters. The original game with 100s of all-time rosters, from the Big Red Machine to the '27 Yankees. The original game with the capability of 30-team online leagues and seasons, with trades and updated stats. I wouldn't be writing this. I'd be calling in sick to play the game. I'm no video game marketing whiz, but there's no way that wouldn't be a sensation. Keep the familiar fun whole, then build around it with 2014-level memory capabilities.
Instead, this is a game that might as well be named Baseball Superstars or Baseball Game 2: The Baseballing. The only reason we're interested is because it has R.B.I. Baseball in the title. If only they nailed the reason why that interested us so much in the first place.
I commented with a link to rbibaseball.us.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 03:49:04 PM
Tough but fair RBI '14 review by Grant Brisbee on SBNation (http://www.sbnation.com/2014/4/10/5601308/rbi-baseball-14-review-ps3-360). I completely agree with is last two paragraphs:
QuoteNow picture this: The original game, gameplay completely intact, warts and all. The original game with updated rosters. The original game with 100s of all-time rosters, from the Big Red Machine to the '27 Yankees. The original game with the capability of 30-team online leagues and seasons, with trades and updated stats. I wouldn't be writing this. I'd be calling in sick to play the game. I'm no video game marketing whiz, but there's no way that wouldn't be a sensation. Keep the familiar fun whole, then build around it with 2014-level memory capabilities.
Instead, this is a game that might as well be named Baseball Superstars or Baseball Game 2: The Baseballing. The only reason we're interested is because it has R.B.I. Baseball in the title. If only they nailed the reason why that interested us so much in the first place.
Nice, thanks Beef!
I commented with a link to rbibaseball.us.
There is a green monster at the Fenway park on this game. I doubled off of it.
Quote from: fknmclane on 04/10/14, 12:37:17 PM
I played a three inning game last night on the ipad. I've never played any sort of game on the ipad before so it was certainly a different experience. Still fun. My timing on hitting was shit but did hit a game winner in the bottom of the third. Will definitely be playing more, and chubbs is getting it for the xbox. We're planning an RBI night in the next couple weeks.
I expect a new thread when said meetup happens, I'll do the same when Lips gets his PS4 one.
Really wasn't enough time at the Good Brother's to get it on his iPad so I guess I'm waiting until the next gen versions come up. Great discussion all around here boys, most activity this board has gotten in ages!
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/10/14, 03:49:04 PM
Tough but fair RBI '14 review by Grant Brisbee on SBNation (http://www.sbnation.com/2014/4/10/5601308/rbi-baseball-14-review-ps3-360). I completely agree with is last two paragraphs:
QuoteNow picture this: The original game, gameplay completely intact, warts and all. The original game with updated rosters. The original game with 100s of all-time rosters, from the Big Red Machine to the '27 Yankees. The original game with the capability of 30-team online leagues and seasons, with trades and updated stats. I wouldn't be writing this. I'd be calling in sick to play the game. I'm no video game marketing whiz, but there's no way that wouldn't be a sensation. Keep the familiar fun whole, then build around it with 2014-level memory capabilities.
Instead, this is a game that might as well be named Baseball Superstars or Baseball Game 2: The Baseballing. The only reason we're interested is because it has R.B.I. Baseball in the title. If only they nailed the reason why that interested us so much in the first place.
I commented with a link to rbibaseball.us.
Making a physical "all-time" NES cart would rule, maybe via a Dee-Nee selection process. Perhaps the 20 best all-time teams, the 5 best original teams and 5 new teams?
If you guys want to get in another project, I could easily manage that. In fact, I have a spreadsheet that people could use to help with the editing...kind of like we did with the 1987 ROM. If none of us had jobs, it would be fun to try and get as many years worth of ROMs as we could, but that'll never happen.
It would definitely need to be a group effort - some people deciding on teams and the math geeks to work out the proper formulas most people agree upon - especially with figuring out a way to accurately give the proper # to teams across generations. Would be a project for sure...
I have a lot of great base formulas and could probably generate a base ROM for almost any season. The only tweaks to the formulas would have to be for generational or "era" differences. Honestly with all the automation I have, the only difficult part about rating a ROM now is getting lineups correct and pitching speeds. I've even automated this for modern years to some degree with pitchfx data, but it's still a manual process.
Once you get a base ROM, it's just going through and tweaking low power high average guys, making sure bench guys fit their role e.g., low AB guys provide a great pop off the bench with their +64, and then afterwards are kind of useless, making them only good for pitcher replacement vs. high power guys to replace some gibroni int he starting lineup.
I'd really like to redo the 1987 ROM with what I know now...
Well shit, that's handy. We'd mostly have to work out deciding teams and tweaking the details then.
Are we talking "all-time teams" as in "Best year of a franchise" (e.g. 1927 Yankees), or "Best players who played for that team" (Ruth, Gehrig, Jeter, Mantle)?
anyone buy this thing on a ps3 yet?
still on the fence here...plus with no spotted cow, i mean really whats the point?
Hort, where are you located?
I'm actually quite curious to hear if any of the bluetooth controllers for the iphone work with it...
I noticed last night while playing against my son that when NL plays at an AL park, the team has a different line-up. Doumit is usually the first guy off the bench and against AL teams he hits 6th. That's kind of a cool thing. Much better than just putting him 9th.
Wow, that's great! I thought it was just first bench guy. I wish I could get that hack into my ROM.
sorry for the delay on checking the blutooth. Got busy at work yesterday and today. I'll test it out on the icade (via blutooth) tonight and a NESstyle blutooth controller too. Alas, from al that I've read on the settings and on the web, it doesn't look promising.
Quote from: Turd on 04/11/14, 09:57:42 AM
Hort, where are you located?
I'm actually quite curious to hear if any of the bluetooth controllers for the iphone work with it...
Drinking this at my desk. Thinking of all the sad folks who've never had the Cow.
Is anyone here close to target Field? I am going to be on a training next week Sunday through Thursday and I plan on hitting a game up some evening maybe Tuesday or Wednesday.
Sad news, I tried the Bluetooth controller and the icade (via blutooth) it's a no go at least on the iPad/iPhone. Maybe in the 2015 version or in some updated patch they'll figure out how to do that because it would be awesome!
Quote from: Turd on 04/11/14, 05:10:05 PM
Is anyone here close to target Field? I am going to be on a training next week Sunday through Thursday and I plan on hitting a game up some evening maybe Tuesday or Wednesday.
I live in North Dakota but sadly I only get over there about once a year. Target Field is pretty nice though. The jalapeños are spicy!
I'll be at Target Field with my brothers next month, but too far for an impulse midweek trip, as fun as that would be. With the Twins sucking, attendance is down, so check the secondary market for cheaper tickets.
Empire, where are you at in ND? I grew up in northwestern SD and have a brother in Bismarck.
Dickinson. I moved here back in 2002. It's a great place to raise kids but too far to make impromptu trips to Minneapolis. It's about a 7 hour drive. 6 1/2 if I don't make many stops.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/12/14, 05:27:49 AM
ONE feature that I noticed does not exist in RBI 2014 is cpu vs cpu mode. No prime up mode, hopefully there will be a future update for this one. I was thinking about how much more development may be required for this update and began thinking what type of AI design would have to be incorporated to do the cpu vs cpu. Any one know about the complexity of designing the CPU vs CPU mode and the level of complexity that would be required? Just wondering if they did not include this feature out of the gate for sake of keeping it simple or not.
It already includes AI for both offense and defense, so I'd assume you could just run them at the same time.
Most likely, it was left out because they didn't realize that there were crazy people like us who would find it interesting. Yet another way that they would've been better off doing a straight port rather than a full remake.
Well mine will be done soon. Hopefully with cover art, and some other surprise I'm efforting that once again I can't promise will but not for lack of effort.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/11/14, 11:59:30 PM
Dickinson. I moved here back in 2002. It's a great place to raise kids but too far to make impromptu trips to Minneapolis. It's about a 7 hour drive. 6 1/2 if I don't make many stops.
I've spent lots of time in Dickinson, although I haven't been there in the last decade or so, so I haven't seen it since the oil boom. Dickinson was the default "we want to go somewhere with fast food and a mall" Saturday destination, if we didn't feel like putting in the extra hour-ish to get to Bismarck.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/14/14, 02:48:14 AM
ONE has found running the IOS version and using the mac app Reflector allows the game to be displayed on the mac display. Not sure if I am liking the controls on the xbox or the iPhone at this point TBD.
Still growing on me on the Xbox. It seems like they always pick the wrong guy for a ball in the 1B/2B and SS/3B holes - I want the middle infielder, and they always pick the corner guy, so I start in the wrong direction and miss it. I'm also not a fan of the switch to actively controlling the guy with the ball, rather than the direction+B running to a base. It feels really unnatural when, for example, throwing in to second from the outfield, as you have to make your guy turn away from where he's throwing before he makes the throw. It doesn't affect the quality of the throw, but it feels weird, and honestly if they were going to switch that so dramatically, they may as well have gone to the newer-school pattern where you throw to a base by picking the appropriate face button on the controller.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/11/14, 11:21:32 PM
I'll be at Target Field with my brothers next month, but too far for an impulse midweek trip, as fun as that would be. With the Twins sucking, attendance is down, so check the secondary market for cheaper tickets.
Empire, where are you at in ND? I grew up in northwestern SD and have a brother in Bismarck.
I was able to score a ticket 8 rows behind home plate for tomorrow's game for $20. Thanks for the suggestion to go through secondary ticketing...StubHub FTW!
I got it on my phone/ ipad. I like it. Not quite as perfect as the old game but a terrific phone game.
I agree mostly, Dirt, but for me, I don't view it as a replacement from the original...I'll likely play that more, I think. 14 is a great game though, and perhaps i'll even play it more when it comes out for the console...
One big positive about the new game - my son is on much more equal footing with me than with the original, so he's been much more excited about playing the new one with me. I will be getting in much more video game baseball thanks to RBI 14.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/14/14, 08:19:44 AM
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/11/14, 11:59:30 PM
Dickinson. I moved here back in 2002. It's a great place to raise kids but too far to make impromptu trips to Minneapolis. It's about a 7 hour drive. 6 1/2 if I don't make many stops.
I've spent lots of time in Dickinson, although I haven't been there in the last decade or so, so I haven't seen it since the oil boom. Dickinson was the default "we want to go somewhere with fast food and a mall" Saturday destination, if we didn't feel like putting in the extra hour-ish to get to Bismarck.
Yes, it is definitely the fast food and mall town here in the western half on North Dakota. But you wouldn't recognize this place anymore. It's crazy how the oil boom has really made this city explode. There are so many new buildings and businesses up here along with 8 or so new hotels. It's now second in the nation as far as rent and cost of living go, only behind Williston, ND, which as you probably know is north from Dickinson 2 hours. Luckily we bought our house 9 years ago and it didn't effect us outside of food costs. But with 4 kids, it does add up. Not a bank breaker though.
I have a new blog entry up. It covers the aesthetics of RBI 14.
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/post/82699867003/rbi-baseball-14-the-good-the-bad-the-how-can-we-fix
Your blog touched on two things that also bugged me. The tag animation is a disaster - your throw has to beat the runner to the base by a LONG time to actually get an out, and it's disappointing every time you think you have the out and fail to get it.
Regarding the rosters, you mentioned the fact that (most teams') Opening Day was the 31st, so they had 10 days, but the rosters they used were even older - I checked the Twins' transaction logs, and the three non-roster players they included were let go on the 24th and 25th of March. Aaron Hicks (who's not in the game) was confirmed by Gardy as the starting center fielder a few days before that. About the only thing I can see that makes sense is that they figured that they should have rosters finalized at the time of the first official regular-season game, the Australian series between the Dodgers and D-Backs.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/14/14, 01:16:20 PM
Your blog touched on two things that also bugged me. The tag animation is a disaster - your throw has to beat the runner to the base by a LONG time to actually get an out, and it's disappointing every time you think you have the out and fail to get it.
Regarding the rosters, you mentioned the fact that (most teams') Opening Day was the 31st, so they had 10 days, but the rosters they used were even older - I checked the Twins' transaction logs, and the three non-roster players they included were let go on the 24th and 25th of March. Aaron Hicks (who's not in the game) was confirmed by Gardy as the starting center fielder a few days before that. About the only thing I can see that makes sense is that they figured that they should have rosters finalized at the time of the first official regular-season game, the Australian series between the Dodgers and D-Backs.
I think disaster is the exact word for it. I've even had plays where my runner goes in standing up while the ball barely beats him there and yet he's called safe. Now that I expect it it's not a big deal, I basically just have a split second long heart attack whenever I try to steal a base and wait for the call.
I'm not sure what the deal was with the rosters. Maybe you're right and they had them finalized for that very first set of games and left them that way. Grady Sizemore is another guy missing from the Red Sox who won their opening day spot in center field. He's not on the game either. The Braves still have Medlen and Minor on the roster. Medlen won't pitch this season and Minor won't be back for a while. I guess you have to declare the deadline sometime, so whatever I guess. It should be fixed with the update.
Yeah - if they're adding online play at some point, then that'll almost certainly have a roster update to go along with it.
It'll be interesting to see what they do for next year (assuming this game is successful). NBA Jam On Fire Edition came out at the beginning of the 2011-2012 season, but it has had regular roster updates since then, as recently as the beginning of this season. I thought that was a nice touch, rather than EA's usual "bleed you for a new release every year" strategy.
Then again, that was also the second version of the NBA Jam remake, and it was an improvement over the original pretty much across the board, so maybe we should hope for at least one fresh release of RBI to get in some of the features we've been looking for (more authentic RBI gameplay, or at least an option for it; classic rosters; more gameplay tuning).
I bought the disc version of NBA Jam on 360 when it came out. I never did pick up the On FIre edition. I might trade my disc in and get that download. I liked the disc version but it still lacked that replayabilty of the original. If the On Fire edition at least has roster updates that might be the way to go.
I had the disc version on the Wii, so I also had a basis for comparison. On Fire Edition added a bunch more extra teams, a bunch more historical players, a better system for unlocks (you get "Jam Bucks" for winning games and performing various "challenges", and you buy stuff using those), tag mode (so you can switch players, on both offense and defense), and they brought back Team Fire. About the only additional thing I could've asked for was the create-a-player mode from NBA Hang Time.
I think you have me sold Beef. I'll have to pick it up now.
Hey guys, I just posted Part 2 of my thoughts on RBI 14.
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/post/82827423714/rbi-baseball-14-the-good-the-bad-the-how-can-we-make
Thanks! I can try to help. What are you having the most trouble with? Are you giving up runs or struggling to get hits?
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/14/14, 11:24:46 AM
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The first 3 reviews are all ONE star.
Get it? ONE!
I really need more ONE/swinger vs Turd drama in this thread. What a loon...
Nah I'm out. Gantry yelled at me. :(
Plus that conversation goes nowhere.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/16/14, 12:22:09 AM
Thanks! I can try to help. What are you having the most trouble with? Are you giving up runs or struggling to get hits?
I'm sitting 2-2 in season mode so far (haven't played 1-player in a few days), but I'm also having a lot more trouble with the CPU than you are. My hitting has been tolerable, but the CPU seems to be crushing EVERYTHING - in my two losses, I've given up a combined 32 runs. I'm mostly throwing normal pitches (again, old RBI habits, although given that all three starters are available, maybe I should adjust this), but still, seems like I'm getting hammered pretty ridiculously in my losses.
I'm wondering if the pitcher actually has a hand in how hard the batter hits the ball - the Twins' pitchers are awful, so maybe the game just gives guys a power boost because Phil Hughes is pitching.
I have only lost one game, I've found the CPU challenging, but nowhere near impossible to beat.
I'll be interested in seeing what Empire has to say about the fielding. That's been, by FAR, my biggest complaint about the game so far, and the biggest departure from the original. The batter-pitcher matchup is pretty consistent, other than that the computer isn't as easy to strike out (they don't consistently chase those curves just off the outside corner like they use to).
The thing about the matchup against the CPU is that I'm not finding an avenue to get an advantage. One thing I liked about old-school sports games is that once you got good at them, you could beat the computer nearly every time even with an inferior team - there was always something that could give you an advantage, and it was really a test of skill rather than a simulation of your team matchups. The CPU appears to field, hit, and run the bases pretty optimally, so I haven't found a place for human advantage yet (other than that you can still take advantage of the first-and-third situation - the problem there is that balls reach the outfielders so quickly that it's hard to get first-to-third on a single in the first place).
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/16/14, 06:30:37 AM
Funny the computer appears to be dominating on both sides, I did notice related to hitting that the pitcher will become tougher in certain run scoring situations, have you noticed this as well?
Pitching I have been trying to conserve my 1st starter without using the 2nd starter since that is the way we normally play, so I have been in quite a few close games but have not beat the cpu yet lol. Are you using all your pitchers?
I have also played most of my games with the training wheels off, I've switched back to putting the training wheels on and it seems like the CPU is a bit easier on me hitting and pitching but cannot confirm if this is true yet. Do you play with the assisted features/training wheels on? Do you think having them on or off change the level of difficulty of the cpu besides just assisting you with fielding?
Also are you playing a majority on the xbox or the iOS or both? If so do you notice a difference in the level of difficulty on either?
Ive mostly been playing on the iOS using the Reflector to display on my macbook just out of pure convenience instead of firing up the xbox but if there is a difference it will most likely motivate me to play on the xbox more.
I play mostly on PS3. That's where the 24-3 record I referred to in the article came from. I'm guessing the xbox would be about the same. I just like the d-pad on PS3 a lot so I got it for that system. As far as the settings go I've only played with standard fielding. I haven't used any assisted fielding on either version so I have no idea if it would affect the difficulty. My record on ipad isn't near what it is on PS3. I think I'm 2-3 or 2-4 on ipad. I only play that version if I'm in bed. I might play a game before I fall asleep. The controls are definitely harder to master on the touch screen and I think that makes it a little bit harder. The biggest difficulty for me on ipad is pitching. Getting the pitch to do what I want with the touch screen is incredibly tough. Fielding isn't so bad since you have a little time to get to a spot when the ball is hit.
The CPU will definitely bring the change of speed with runners on. I'm pretty sure they did that on purpose. That's when most of my strike outs happen. I've been able to string together a few innings where I put up 4 or 5 runs on base hits but they don't happen that often. I've also noticed that it's pretty hard to score in the first 2 innings without hitting a home run. A full-stamina starter pitches pretty good for the CPU.
I try to throw as deep as possible into the game with my starting pitcher. I usually get at least 5 out of him before I pinch hit. I've gone as deep as 7 2/3 with a starter but he was throwing really slow at that point and I had to pull him cuz he gave up 2 hits in a row. I usually only use 3 pitchers. Sometimes all 4 but mostly just 3. I rarely throw a fast ball unless it's with my closer. I only throw 'knuckle' balls with a 2 strike count if I need a strike out. The rest are just regular pitches so he doesn't get tired as fast.
Playing a human is a lot different. I play my 11 year old son and he stays with me for the most part through the first few innings. He usually loses it about the 4th inning when his pitcher starts to tire. He hasn't quite figured out how to pitch with a tiring pitcher.
As far as rankings go I think I'm around 15th in wins on PS3. I'm pretty sure it only counts season wins toward that because I've also played a few exhibition games against my son and the CPU and those wins don't seem to be counted, which is fine and makes sense. I think in stolen bases I've been as high as 9th. Win % I think I'm somewhere around 30th. I don't hit a ton of home runs or strike out a lot of batters. I only average about 3 strikeouts a game vs. the CPU. There are some really good players. One of the guys on there was 17-0 to start. I'm not sure what he is now but that's pretty damn good.
As soon as I finish my first season I'll post a picture with all of my box scores. I take a pic of the post-game screen after each game. That way you can see how I do and I can track my season stats.
Here were my stats after my first 10 games with the Braves.
RECORD Through 10 8-2
AB HITS 2B 3B HR SO BB SB AVG
ATL 372 139 28 2 18 30 0 24 .373
OPP 369 109 19 1 13 30 0 6 .295
I hope they start to track stats. With my next blog entry I'm going to touch on fielding and some improvements and stat tracking is definitely one of them. I've always been a big stats guy dating back to when I was a kid I would create my own schedule and score the game while I played in an official score book just so I could have player stats. It took forever to get through full seasons though.
Got the next ten games done real quick
RECORD Through 20 17-3
AB HITS 2B 3B HR SO BB SB AVG
ATL 771 310 60 4 27 56 0 60 .402
OPP 718 204 39 1 22 63 0 7 .284
You can see I got a little better at both hitting and pitching. There are some strategies I use for both that I'll share later.
Yeah, I use excel, but haven't written in the formulas to make it automated. I don't have enough experience with it. That's why I do 10 games at a time. Makes it a little less of a burden. Your site has essentially the same stats that I have and even breaks it down to a per game number. That's pretty cool. I'll decide at the end of the season how in depth I really want to get with my stats. I think I'll end up putting my stats on the RBI Empire site and might even flirt with letting others put theirs on there too. But I have to do some research before I go about doing that since I don't have a forum on there.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/16/14, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/16/14, 12:22:09 AM
Thanks! I can try to help. What are you having the most trouble with? Are you giving up runs or struggling to get hits?
I'm sitting 2-2 in season mode so far (haven't played 1-player in a few days), but I'm also having a lot more trouble with the CPU than you are. My hitting has been tolerable, but the CPU seems to be crushing EVERYTHING - in my two losses, I've given up a combined 32 runs. I'm mostly throwing normal pitches (again, old RBI habits, although given that all three starters are available, maybe I should adjust this), but still, seems like I'm getting hammered pretty ridiculously in my losses.
I'm wondering if the pitcher actually has a hand in how hard the batter hits the ball - the Twins' pitchers are awful, so maybe the game just gives guys a power boost because Phil Hughes is pitching.
Sorry Beef, I missed this post earlier!
When I pitch I try to pay close attention to where the CPU stands as he moves after every pitch.
For all of these examples lets assume it's a righty on righty match-up and I always throw a regular pitch. Never a fast ball or drop pitch.
When the batter is off the plate (far left of the box):
-If he's up in the box (toward the pitcher) then I move to where I can barely see the left side of the rubber on the release and throw a curve outside.
-If he's even with the plate or deep in the box (close to the catcher) I move all the way left on the rubber and throw a curve outside.
-Keep in mind the varying curve ability of each pitcher too. You may have to adjust your starting point accordingly.
When the batter is in the middle of the box (from left to right):
-If he's up in the box I will try to throw a curve at him and break it close to the inside corner. You have to be careful with this because the CPU can step back and crush this pitch.
-The other two options here are to move to the middle of the rubber and try to curve it outside and get him to chase or start the pitch over the plate and curve it back into the hitter. You have to give it a touch of right on the d-pad then bring it back left. The latter of these two can get the hitter moving toward the plate and swing at a pitch too far inside. Often times the CPU swings really early on this pitch.
When the batter is crowding the plate:
-If he's up in the box or middle of the box I start just inside the left side of the rubber and start it over the middle of the plate and curve it back into the batter.
-If he's deep in the box I start far left and throw a curve outside. Most of the time the ball is too far outside for him to hit. It's either going to be a ball or a swing and miss.
With a righty pitcher vs. a lefty hitter it gets a little harder for me but I use the same concepts. It feels almost like they did that on purpose giving the hitter a slight advantage. Which makes sense since that's how baseball is.
With a batter hugging the plate I try to get it inside but I move my pitcher all the way to the right, start it over the plate and curve it over the inside corner.
If he's off the plate I start it in the right handed batter's box and try to curve it over the outside corner. This is another one of those pitches where if you catch too much of the plate it'll get crushed. If that doesn't work start just inside the left edge of the rubber and start the pitch over the plate and curve it outside. This seems to be the more effective pitch of the two.
The main thing is to keep the ball off the middle of the plate. Also set your pitcher up to give yourself the best angle of attack. My ERA isn't ranked really high but it's below 4.00 and it keeps me in most games.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/16/14, 11:48:11 AM
Yes very cool I am open to collaborate with you if you are interested and as I move forward with upgrading my site maybe we can share some ideas. I really like your passion with RBI 2014, it is the most positive thing Ive seen on this forum in ONE very long time :) ONE applauds RBI Empire :thumbsup:
Thanks Swinger! I think it's because I've been waiting for a game like this for a very long time. As a 33 year-old I grew up with the old stuff on NES. Most baseball games since SNES have tried to be way too real. I can't get into it. So, for a game like RBI to be rehashed and released similar to the original I've jumped on it and had a great time with it so far. Everything is different, but still familiar to what I grew up with. I know the game isn't perfect, but it's a good start and if MLBAM pays attention I think they can turn this version into an excellent arcade baseball series.
I hope it keeps getting updates and getting better. Either way, it's a great supplement to MLB: The Show. I get the best of both worlds...
I found a glitch today over my lunch hour.
Attempt to steal a base then hit L1 (on PS3) to do a quick sub just before the pitcher releases. Sub in a pinch hitter and the pitching animation resets but the base runner keeps going. He will be at the next base before or just as the pitcher throws the pitch. It's an automatic stolen base.
I stumbled on it by complete accident with my pitcher up to bat. It doesn't work if you don't put in the pinch hitter. So there is a price to pay and a user can't just glitch their way around the bases.
Part 3 is up. It's all about defense. Some good, some bad. But in the end it's, in the words of our beloved Justin Beiber, a'ight.
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/post/82942427107/rbi-baseball-14-the-good-the-bad-the-how-can-we-make
Played another game last night - gave up 9 runs to the Blue Jays and lost 9-3. I also got burned again by the "pull the 2B off the bag" problem/glitch, which of course was immediately followed by a 3-run bomb from Bautista.
Might try starting a new season with a less-terrible team, just to get an idea whether the problem here is me or the Twins.
I've had that double play glitch happen a number of times. TBH, I've even had it happen in the original game, but not as often as I see it here.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/16/14, 07:19:28 PM
Part 3 is up. It's all about defense. Some good, some bad. But in the end it's, in the words of our beloved Justin Beiber, a'ight.
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/post/82942427107/rbi-baseball-14-the-good-the-bad-the-how-can-we-make
Just gave this a read. FYI, the original Griffey on the SNES had fielders with correct handedness and skin tone, but not positive whether it was very common otherwise.
I just noticed the pre-fielding-screen pitcher movement for the first time last night but was not aware of the middle infielders doing that same thing. That will be a huge help - as you said, their choice of 3B/SS and 1B/2B is AWFUL.
I still can't get over that they included 3 SPs. I'm annoyed by this.
I am still awaiting the release of this game on the PS4...the iPhone controls aren't cutting it and I think I'd have a lot more fun with it if i was using an actual controller. The game is good, and honestly there are only a few things I'd change about it. These range from "god I wish they'd do it" to "meh, just a minor annoyance."
1.) 2SP and 2RP instead of 3 to 1
2.) Expanded rosters. Not a lot, but a little to get some extra pitchers in the game
3.) Some of the challenges are pretty difficult
4.) Add-on teams (a download pack for the original ROM rosters would be awesome). 82 Brewers! 57 Braves!
I really hope this thing continues to get roster updates (for future seasons). Features too, but definitely roster updates. If it's a few years down the road and we're still playing with 2014 rosters, that's a deal breaker for me.
I wonder how feasible it's going to be to get historical teams. There aren't a whole lot of games that have done much with historical rosters, because it's a pain in the ass to get the rights for retired players - since they're not in the union anymore, you have to contract with them individually, and some players are apparently difficult to get. NBA 2k has had a few selected teams, particularly for the Dream Team and Michael Jordan themes they've done, and NBA Jam has a bunch of individual players, but even they've had their issues - Scottie Pippen was almost excluded from the NBA 2k Dream Team because of rights issues, and there are guys like Charles Barkley and Reggie Miller who are conspicuously absent from NBA Jam. I don't think Madden has ever made an effort to have more than jersey numbers for historical teams, and RBI 3 simply used initials and position numbers for retired players.
Arcade RBI got around this using the tried-and-true legal maneuver of "not giving a shit" and just used whoever they wanted.
Quote from: Turd on 04/17/14, 09:05:49 AM
I am still awaiting the release of this game on the PS4...the iPhone controls aren't cutting it and I think I'd have a lot more fun with it if i was using an actual controller. The game is good, and honestly there are only a few things I'd change about it. These range from "god I wish they'd do it" to "meh, just a minor annoyance."
1.) 2SP and 2RP instead of 3 to 1
2.) Expanded rosters. Not a lot, but a little to get some extra pitchers in the game
3.) Some of the challenges are pretty difficult
4.) Add-on teams (a download pack for the original ROM rosters would be awesome). 82 Brewers! 57 Braves!
I really hope this thing continues to get roster updates (for future seasons). Features too, but definitely roster updates. If it's a few years down the road and we're still playing with 2014 rosters, that's a deal breaker for me.
I was going to wait for the PS4 version to come out as well so that I could record games and post them on youtube as a dynasty type thing. It would also allow me to keep my own player stats through the season. But then I realized that I only have 1 PS4 controller and I would have to buy a 2nd one so that my son could play. That would make RBI 14 an $80 purchase for me so I went with PS3 instead.
The controls on ipad don't really compare to using a real controller. It makes a world of difference. After I used the controller and went back to the ipad I played better with the touch screen, but still not as good as I do with the controller on PS3.
I have a list of things that I'll put in my next blog entry that I think will make this a game even better. But, much like DirtySwinger, I give this my seal of approval with its quirks and all.
I know for sure that they will update the rosters this summer some time. As far as future rosters I haven't heard anything about it. I imagine that if they don't put out an RBI 15 then they will throw out some sort of roster update. But that might be my own wishful thinking as well.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/17/14, 09:59:36 AM
I know for sure that they will update the rosters this summer some time. As far as future rosters I haven't heard anything about it. I imagine that if they don't put out an RBI 15 then they will throw out some sort of roster update. But that might be my own wishful thinking as well.
Yes, I know they are putting out an update. I'm talking more on the future years, much like you said, wishful thinking. Hopefully it's not! Online play will really make this thing shine.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/17/14, 09:54:32 AM
I was even thinking the ultimate feature to this new RBI Baseball framework would be to offer licenses to developers who would like to purchase the base code as a framework and potentially extend the base code with customizations of their own liking so people can be building features in parallel with the gaming company. If the gaming company likes the feature some developer creates then maybe they will include it in their base product.
I could see mods being an option if there was a PC release, but that's the kind of thing that console and mobile developers have shown zero interest in - they keep those systems locked down tightly. Also, allowing custom rosters to be shared means that you could have "unlicensed" rosters being widely distributed, which the MLBPA probably doesn't like the idea of, particularly if it's a precursor to an unlicensed game that just allows you to download someone else's copy of the game with the correct names in place.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/17/14, 10:56:34 AM
I could see mods being an option if there was a PC release, but that's the kind of thing that console and mobile developers have shown zero interest in - they keep those systems locked down tightly. Also, allowing custom rosters to be shared means that you could have "unlicensed" rosters being widely distributed, which the MLBPA probably doesn't like the idea of, particularly if it's a precursor to an unlicensed game that just allows you to download someone else's copy of the game with the correct names in place.
It's a great idea indeed. I'd love to have fully editable rosters, but if past history is any indication, I don't see it happening. It's something we all strongly desired for Tecmo, and that never happened either. Though, I think the new Gridiron Heroes Tecmo game might have it in a future update.
We'll have to play "wait-and-see" to find out what's in store for us in the upcoming years for this game.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/17/14, 11:04:08 AM
SO what is your Beef Master, or should I say what is your point? Do you have anything positive to add to the idea or how to improve on it or are you just another know it all negative re-enforcer like the other guy on here? LMAO 2 turds
I was just pointing out the fact that it is extremely unlikely that a console/mobile game gets any kind of official mod support, because mods are generally a PC-only thing.
Quote from: Turd on 04/17/14, 11:12:22 AM
It's a great idea indeed. I'd love to have fully editable rosters, but if past history is any indication, I don't see it happening. It's something we all strongly desired for Tecmo, and that never happened either. Though, I think the new Gridiron Heroes Tecmo game might have it in a future update.
Tecmo Bowl Throwback had editable roster names (based on real players), but it was hampered by the fact that you couldn't edit team data and couldn't share rosters (so everyone who owned the game would have to manually enter the real player names).
Not familiar with Gridiron Heroes, so I gave it a googling - a Facebook-based Tecmo Super Bowl remake? I'm intrigued...
Yes, Dave Murray over at the Tecmo forums has a team creating the game. Written in Unity so ability to share between xbox, iphone, PS3, facebook, etc. You'll be able to play people online. It was supposed to be coach mode only, but they have decided to implement PvP and it looks to be pretty fantastic.
In fact, the guy who added the extra teams to Tecmo Super Bowl, Tecmo Bowl, and the RBI 30-Team ROM has been working on showing them how the original did stuff so they could replicate it in their game. It's basically the same game with some enhancements...
Tangible is a relative term. I'm interested in Beef's take whether it helps the cause or whether it's just an opinion that the future looks bleak for opening the licensing.
They had some discussions over at tecmobowl.org about this game and asked some of us RBI hardcores over there to chime in...conveniently I was able to basically link them to RBI Empire's site...thanks again for writing that, dude. It's a great idea that I wish I had thought of.
I asked this to stop, and it's going to or people are not to post anymore. You two simply can't get along, so Swinger and Turd stop replying to each other. I don't want excuses or "he started it" BS - just stop addressing each other from this point on. I don't care thinks they are right or who thinks the other at fault, I just want the animosity off this board. Move on, thanks
Okay I've played over 50 games and have to say I'm bored playing CPU. I'm ready for online play. Really, really good game. I have no complaints other than the lack of online play.
You guys aren't getting it. DO NOT REPLY TO EACH OTHER OR MENTION EACH OTHER IN POSTS FROM HERE ON OUT.
I deleted both your posts and will continue to do so. It stops now
Quote from: Johnny Tecmo on 04/17/14, 02:23:45 PM
Okay I've played over 50 games and have to say I'm bored playing CPU. I'm ready for online play. Really, really good game. I have no complaints other than the lack of online play.
Online! It's coming dude. Summer, I think I heard. It'd be cool to get some kind of Dee-Nee leaderboard for just us guys here...it'd be fun to try and beat our fellow homies to climb the ladder...
Quote from: Gantry on 04/17/14, 02:26:26 PM
You guys aren't getting it. DO NOT REPLY TO EACH OTHER OR MENTION EACH OTHER IN POSTS FROM HERE ON OUT.
I deleted both your posts and will continue to do so. It stops now
Why are you getting on Johnny Tecmo like that? Poor bastard hasn't done anything wrong. STOP TAKING SIDES!
Quote from: BDawk on 04/17/14, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Gantry on 04/17/14, 02:26:26 PM
You guys aren't getting it. DO NOT REPLY TO EACH OTHER OR MENTION EACH OTHER IN POSTS FROM HERE ON OUT.
I deleted both your posts and will continue to do so. It stops now
Why are you getting on Johnny Tecmo like that? Poor bastard hasn't done anything wrong. STOP TAKING SIDES!
No kidding. The guy's got like 3 posts!
Johnny Tecmo thinks we're sellouts.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/17/14, 02:27:05 PMSo I will be clear Gantry I have no interest in any comments with Turd or Beefmaster as long as they do not comment on mine. Fair Gantry?
That is what I am asking and everyone knows this now. We're moving on...
I should really change that since the admiral avatar is gone.
Nah fuck it
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/17/14, 01:31:32 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/17/14, 01:24:30 PM
I was just pointing out the fact that it is extremely unlikely that a console/mobile game gets any kind of official mod support, because mods are generally a PC-only thing.
That is almost a fair response, but what is your justification behind your statements? do you have any justification or is this just your opinion or emotion at this time of reading the idea? FYI i am not attempting to question your integrity but I am more interested in gaining accurate knowledge if you have anything tangible to offer more than emotions. Thanks ;)
My justification is basically just history - while user-created mods are common on the PC (and, honestly, one of the best things about gaming on that platform), they're virtually unknown in the console community, for a few reasons.
First and foremost - it's hard. Modding, even stuff as basic as making custom rosters, involves typing, and that's a pain in the ass if you don't have a mouse/keyboard setup. I manually entered most of the real player names in Tecmo Bowl Throwback on my Xbox 360 (I think I finished 22 of the 28 teams by the time I finished my first season and got tired of data entry), and even with a wireless keyboard it took me a couple hours, all told, because I had to go back and forth between the keyboard and the controller to move through the roster. What you're talking about (the idea of a "framework" that others can build on) is even more involved than that and would likely require some coding, and that'd be impossible to do on a console at all, bringing me to the second problem...
Consoles are REALLY locked down by the manufacturers - they don't want you to do anything with their hardware and software that they don't specifically authorize and design. On a PC, you can get at all the files on your drive in order to copy and move whatever you want. On a console, you simply can't, at least not in a user-friendly manner - you'd have to do stuff like copy files to and from flash drives, and every time you do something like that you risk getting banned from the internet or even bricking your console.
Now, it's possible that they'd make the game open to some sort of editing - as I mentioned earlier, Tecmo Bowl Throwback allowed you to edit player names, as did many of the NCAA games. But even then, Tecmo Bowl Throwback didn't have any mechanism to share those rosters. You and a friend want to have real player names on both your consoles? Then you're both going to have to type them all in. It may be more allowable in RBI since it's got an MLBPA license (I assume Tecmo Bowl Throwback didn't have that partially because they were scared of an NFLPA suit when people started sharing real rosters), but they might fear the same kind of thing from retired players, or they may want to prevent user editing just to make sure that they're the only ones who can provide new rosters, which they could charge extra for.
Basically, I'm saying that video game publishers have historically had pretty much zero interest in any sort of modding support on consoles or mobile devices, and I see no reason why that would change in this case, particularly when custom rosters are something that lends itself well to paid DLC.
EDIT: Am I still allowed to reply, since I'm being polite? I spent like 10 minutes writing this.
Another reason for not allowing mods on consoles, other than it's difficult to program that in for 3rd party use, is contol of content by the company giving the rights to use their product, in this case MLB and MLBPA. I know for a fact with the NFL and a game like Madden that the NFL has final say on what goes in the game.
http://extramustard.si.com/2014/03/12/ea-sports-madden-features-nfl-remove/
The NCAA also had this same control and wouldn't allow EA Sports to put a playoff system in their game. They didn't want their fans to be swayed in favor of a playoff system before they had one in place. There were other features as well.
PC games are much easier to hack into than a console game. I'm no hacker, but I assume that for a console game you have to rip all of the raw data off of the game disc in order to get it into a program on a PC and then find a way to make a compatible digital copy for the console or put it back on another disc. In the latter case you would need a modded console just to read the newly burned disc. Most people don't have that technology at their fingertips.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/17/14, 09:54:32 AM
I was even thinking the ultimate feature to this new RBI Baseball framework would be to offer licenses to developers who would like to purchase the base code as a framework and potentially extend the base code with customizations of their own liking so people can be building features in parallel with the gaming company. If the gaming company likes the feature some developer creates then maybe they will include it in their base product. Careerwise I do a lot of extensions with out of the box software and have developed many bridge patterns that allow for this collaborative approach to designing software in a very effective approach to getting the software to be the best it can be for whatever purpose it may serve.
I am looking to propose this idea as soon as i find a good contact to discuss it with at the gaming company. With the brains and passion we have floating around on this forum alone ONE thinks we can come up with some very kick ass customizations and extensions that would give everyone that flavor of RBI baseball they want and allow to share it for others who do not code their same excitement.
Honestly I think what you're getting at is a good idea and definitely out of the box. I think the others on this forum would agree with you that having a company open up programming to a variety of different developers but ultimately maintaining control over what goes in the final product would be a positive for any game, not just RBI. I even think it would take some of the burden off of the producing company.
I think back to many discussions I've had about EA Sports NCAA Football. They've gone so far as to have "community days" where they bring in players from all over the country involved in the NCAA internet community (operation sports, nutopia, gaming tailgate, simsports etc.) to test out the new version months before it's advanced. It's not quite the same as what you've proposed, but these players are allowed to say what they like and dislike about the current version and even make suggestions for features that would be great additions to the game. Sort of like making a pitch for the feature without putting all of the time in to program a demo of said feature. In the end though EA has the final say on what they can put in.
I like your idea even though I'm not a programmer, but I wonder how many developers would be willing to put in a bunch of time working on a feature without getting paid and with the possibility of not even having their feature accepted.
On the other hand, a game that is completely customizable from team Names, Locations, Colors, Roster Size, Stadium and so forth would be awesome with RBI gameplay. Throw in roster sharing and we could have rosters from every season as a possiblity. It could be endless MLB RBI Baseball. :)
If you guys remember, paste any of the links you recall with good (as in quality of review, not strictly positive) reviews of RBI 14. Need to do a front page update.
I'd like to think that my blog is quality work ;) but if I get time later tonight I'll try to find a few that I read last week. Either that or just google RBI 14 reviews.
Will definitely link to yours, should add you to the links page as well. Heck that thing probably needs some MAJOR cleanup.
Played a couple more games today... it continues to grow on me, although that was helped by the fact that I won both games handily - my opponents weren't crushing the ball as much as before, and the hitting gods were on my side. My last game, against the Rays, I had NINE homers, still using the usually-power-deprived Twins. I also tested and confirmed the stolen base glitch that Empire posted earlier, although it didn't make a difference in the game.
Xbox Achievement note: I won my last game 12-2, and it gave me the "Sandlot Pro" achievement for winning by mercy rule even though the game went the full nine innings (I scored my last run in the top of the ninth). Apparently the logic just checks for a ten-run victory, not a specific number of innings.
I've been trying to nibble the corners a bit more when I pitch, and I think it's making a difference - it seems like the power penalty for hits off the end or handle of the bat is more pronounced in the new version. The next thing I work on is patience - I swing at basically everything, and I need to stop doing that.
Holy crap man, 9 homers!?!? That's some nice work! The most I've hit in a game is 4 and I've only done that twice. Got any tips to up my power game?
I played some games on the iPad on the plane today. You guys are lucky to have a console version cause playing like this ah-sucks.
Yeah, the controls are decent for it being a touch screen game, but it doesn't compare to the console version.
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/16/14, 08:48:41 PM
Anyone notice it more common to have power to the opposite field? I don't know if it's the way I have been hitting but it appears most of my hrs so far have been to the opposite field.
There does seem to be more home runs hit to the opposite field on this game. Most of my home runs go to either center field or to the opposite field. I want to believe that there is a way to hit bombs while pulling the ball but I haven't figured it out yet.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/18/14, 01:07:04 AM
Quote from: DirtySwinger on 04/16/14, 08:48:41 PM
Anyone notice it more common to have power to the opposite field? I don't know if it's the way I have been hitting but it appears most of my hrs so far have been to the opposite field.
There does seem to be more home runs hit to the opposite field on this game. Most of my home runs go to either center field or to the opposite field. I want to believe that there is a way to hit bombs while pulling the ball but I haven't figured it out yet.
I've noticed this, too. Part of the issue is that there's a slight bit of hook to pulled balls, while opposite-field hits go completely straight, so they're a little more likely to go foul if you pull them. Also, I'm late on pretty much everything, so it's not like I have a lot of choice.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/17/14, 10:19:04 PM
Holy crap man, 9 homers!?!? That's some nice work! The most I've hit in a game is 4 and I've only done that twice. Got any tips to up my power game?
That was the first game in which I'd hit more than three, so I really don't know whether it's a trend or not - I'll find out next time I play. I've been trying to use the Retreat (http://dee-nee.com/rbi/glossary.shtml), holding down when I'm looking for home run power. Research has shown (really!) that holding up or down when you swing in the original RBI affects the trajectory of the ball (down for flies, up for liners/grounders), and I've had decent luck trying it out in this one, although at least one of my homers was when holding up.
I've also started using the analog stick instead of the D-Pad... I like the additional precision in the field, and it's not been any worse for throwing to bases (although that's partially because the Xbox 360's D-pad is an abomination).
Operation Sports review
http://www.operationsports.com/reviews/749/rbi-baseball-14/
I haven't pulled the trigger on a purchase. $20 is pretty high. Plus I'm still sad about lack of fat guys/retro graphics.
Here's another one that someone posted earlier.
www.sbnation.com/2014/4/10/5601308/rbi-baseball-14-review-ps3-360
So consoles are definitely hard to mod on, but I would think that the Android version would be more moddable... you have access to the files, you can run an Android OS on a PC... I'd think that it would be POSSIBLE to mod that at least.
Shows how little I know about programming though...
Quote from: bonny on 04/19/14, 12:54:01 PM
Operation Sports review
http://www.operationsports.com/reviews/749/rbi-baseball-14/
I haven't pulled the trigger on a purchase. $20 is pretty high. Plus I'm still sad about lack of fat guys/retro graphics.
Review is pretty fair, all things considered, although I wish the writer would have learned the difference between "tenet" and "tenant".
Just finished part 4. My suggestions for upgrades for the game. Now, hopefully, I can focus on the website and try to get the rosters finished.
http://rbiempire.tumblr.com/post/83634305508/rbi-baseball-14-the-good-the-bad-the-how-can-we-make
So, playing with an All-Star team is really easy on this game. I wonder if they beef up the players on these teams. It's cool that they added the home field advantage headline.
Has anyone picked off a runner when playing against the computer?
I haven't. I've tried a few times. I also haven't been able to throw them out on a steal attempt.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 04/25/14, 02:39:21 PM
I haven't. I've tried a few times. I also haven't been able to throw them out on a steal attempt.
Same on both, although in fairness, I've never picked off the computer in the original RBI series, either.
I just threw my first complete game with a starter on RBI 14. Innings 7-9 he threw around 57 mph the whole time. The cpu only had 3 hits in those last few innings.
200 MB update to the Xbox 360 version today, but there don't appear to be any functional changes - the Twins' roster was the same, unless they just preserved the old rosters for in-progress seasons, and no online play or anything.
hey turd i might have to pick up the game now...look what a little birdie dropped off for me today!
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Let us know how you like that crisp, creamy fresh farmhouse ale...
Quote from: Turd on 04/28/14, 04:05:48 PM
Let us know how you like that crisp, creamy fresh farmhouse ale...
will do...also in the meantime i hacked my wii into playing japanese gamecube games...ordered that famista 2003 game used for $11...its tougher then hell! but its what i wish rbi 14 would have looked and played like.(sorry off topic here)
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/28/14, 03:28:53 PM
200 MB update to the Xbox 360 version today, but there don't appear to be any functional changes - the Twins' roster was the same, unless they just preserved the old rosters for in-progress seasons, and no online play or anything.
This might have been to fix the save bug. I was tweeting with Jamie Leece, who worked on the game, and he helped my bro-in-law with freezing issues. Apparently it only affected a small percent of consoles and it was Microsoft's fault. I'm guessing the update was to fix that.
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Quote from: Turd on 04/28/14, 04:05:48 PM
Let us know how you like that crisp, creamy fresh farmhouse ale...
will do...also in the meantime i hacked my wii into playing japanese gamecube games...ordered that famista 2003 game used for $11...its tougher then hell! but its what i wish rbi 14 would have looked and played like.(sorry off topic here)
You're brave to hack a console. I could never bring myself to do that with my 360/PS3. I did have a friend hack my psp so I could play cso/iso games straight from the memory stick. That was a great choice. Saved me $$$$
My brother had a hacked original Xbox. It was pretty spectacular - he threw in a big hard drive, and he could just throw all his games on there and never have to bother with changing discs or anything.
Quote from: hort22 on 04/28/14, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Turd on 04/28/14, 04:05:48 PM
Let us know how you like that crisp, creamy fresh farmhouse ale...
will do...also in the meantime i hacked my wii into playing japanese gamecube games...ordered that famista 2003 game used for $11...its tougher then hell! but its what i wish rbi 14 would have looked and played like.(sorry off topic here)
That is one of the only Famista versions I haven't played yet besides the DS versions. What's nice about the Gameboy Advance and DS versions is that you don't need a hack to play them on U.S. systems. If the gameplay is as good as you say I guess I'm gonna have to get me one of them thar hacked Wii's.
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brave to hack a console. I could never bring myself to do that with my 360/PS3. I did have a friend hack my psp so I could play cso/iso games straight from the memory stick. That was a great choice. Saved me $$$$
Nah, it's not so bad. Especially with soft-modding...I did my Wii using the smash stack hack. Easy as pie...cracking the case is where it gets scary, and even then it aint' so bad. The other day my buddy bought a dud NES off of craigslist, complete with RBI, Tecmo, Mario 3 and a few others. It wouldn't work for shit, so we took it apart, took the 72-pin connector off, boiled it in water, stuck a sand paper wrapped credit card in the slots to clean it off, and then bent each of the pins up to their normal zero-day angle. Threw it back together and the things works like it's brand freakin' new, including Mario 3 which previously wouldn't even boot up. Funny enough, we used Mario 3 as a "cleaning" cartridge after taking the connector out of the boiling water since we figured it was rattling inside and didn't work anyways. Looks like it had nothing to do with the game :)
If I didn't have my powerpak and HTPC running my games, I'd seriously considering getting a raspberry pi and building a retro game console out of that for $40.
I should try that with the spare NES I have lying in the box o' hardware in my office. I replaced the 72-pin connector on the one hooked up to the TV, but maybe I'll have to see if I can simply fix up the connector on the old one.
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Quote from: Turd on 04/28/14, 04:05:48 PM
Let us know how you like that crisp, creamy fresh farmhouse ale...
will do...also in the meantime i hacked my wii into playing japanese gamecube games...ordered that famista 2003 game used for $11...its tougher then hell! but its what i wish rbi 14 would have looked and played like.(sorry off topic here)
That is one of the only Famista versions I haven't played yet besides the DS versions. What's nice about the Gameboy Advance and DS versions is that you don't need a hack to play them on U.S. systems. If the gameplay is as good as you say I guess I'm gonna have to get me one of them thar hacked Wii's.
yah it wasnt very tough to do...the next step is to be able to run games from a flash drive...but thats another step...anyway famista 2003 plays pretty well, but its very tough to pitch...got beat 23-3 the first game i played against the cpu...lol
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/29/14, 01:34:35 PM
I should try that with the spare NES I have lying in the box o' hardware in my office. I replaced the 72-pin connector on the one hooked up to the TV, but maybe I'll have to see if I can simply fix up the connector on the old one.
I read tons of stuff on it, and the success rate was about 9/10...I couldn't believe it, but it worked. It was noticeably cleaner afterwards, and then of course bending the pins up really helped. It was more difficult to piece it back together than it was actually cleaning it!
Updated stats after 30 games in my 52 game season with the Braves.
My batting average went up a few points. You can see my pitching got better as well. The weirdest thing from games 21-30 is that my errors doubled. I have no idea what I'm doing different either. I'm thinking it's just random. Who knows?
Now through 40 games. My average dropped 3 points, but I've learned how to hit home runs. I more than doubled my home runs from my first 30 games in the last 10 games. I think someone mentioned it earlier, but the retreat does work. I use a modified version of it. I don't start at the top of the box but I do press and hold down just before I swing. Lots of bombs hit like this.
My pitching continues to get better the more I play. My ERA went down and my K/9 went up.
It's still really hard to hit triples on this game.
I've misplayed a couple fly balls into triples, but I don't think I've ever hit one yet. Still REALLY station-to-station most of the time.
Got my Twins season back to 5-5 today with a win over the Orioles. Haven't had much time to devote to the game the last week or so, and still struggling with keeping the opponents' hits in the park - I won today's game 10-8.
Just hit a triple tonight. Pedroia hit one to right field at Fenway and it rolled around. Stand up triple, my first! (This was on the iPad version for those making the distinction)
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/30/14, 11:23:08 PM
I've misplayed a couple fly balls into triples, but I don't think I've ever hit one yet. Still REALLY station-to-station most of the time.
Got my Twins season back to 5-5 today with a win over the Orioles. Haven't had much time to devote to the game the last week or so, and still struggling with keeping the opponents' hits in the park - I won today's game 10-8.
Did you see my pitching tips that I posted before? I don't have the best ERA, but if you're scoring 10 runs then you should be doing okay if you can follow those a bit.
I found something really lame a week ago. You can play a 1 inning game in exhibition mode and add to your win total. So basically you can be all star team versus worst team and rack up 10 wins in 10 mins.
Hey RBI Empire. Are you keeping your own stats? Or does does the game keep them and reveal them from time to time? Or can they be looked up?
I keep my own. I take a pic with my phone after each game and then enter the data on a spreadsheet and add it up every 10 games. It sucks that they don't have stat tracking on there.
Downloaded the game tonight. I suck at pitching. My first homer was with Jose fuckin veres. The pitcher!
Quote from: RBI Empire on 05/01/14, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: BeefMaster on 04/30/14, 11:23:08 PM
I've misplayed a couple fly balls into triples, but I don't think I've ever hit one yet. Still REALLY station-to-station most of the time.
Got my Twins season back to 5-5 today with a win over the Orioles. Haven't had much time to devote to the game the last week or so, and still struggling with keeping the opponents' hits in the park - I won today's game 10-8.
Did you see my pitching tips that I posted before? I don't have the best ERA, but if you're scoring 10 runs then you should be doing okay if you can follow those a bit.
The pitching side is getting at least a bit better - I try to nibble the corners as much as possible, which usually keep the homers down and gets me a strikeout every inning or two (I pretty much always throw a drop ball with two strikes).
Quote from: Johnny Tecmo on 05/01/14, 05:46:14 PM
I found something really lame a week ago. You can play a 1 inning game in exhibition mode and add to your win total. So basically you can be all star team versus worst team and rack up 10 wins in 10 mins.
I'd never looked at the leaderboards, but that sucks for people who take them at all seriously.
RBI Baseball, sewius business:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwxwUiDbRCk
The leaderboards on RBI 14 are a joke. It blows my mind that they didn't think to at least put games played requirements for each category.
Western suburbs of Chicago!? I lived in Bolingbrook as a kid for about a year. My dad was working in Aurora for the railroad back in '85-'86. I lived there when the Bears won the Super Bowl. It was awesome!
I was in Kindergarten at the time. I have 2 older brothers. I can't remember what schools they went to but one would have been in 4th grade and the other would have been in 7th. My older brother is Brian, not that it really helps. We moved from an apartment to a house in spring of '86. The house was in Essex Ct off Old Stone Road. It's really close to Bolingbrook HS.
Small world indeed. Will do!
Question: Does anyone know whether the RBI Challenges (the things that unlock the retro jerseys) can be done in Postseason mode instead of Season? I'd like to see if I can knock out a few of the single-game ones (two homers with one player, hit for the cycle as a team, two homers in an inning), but I am 12 games into my season with the Twins, and you can't have more than one season in progress at a time (which is yet another poor design decision).
I nearly got the Twins' challenge, back-to-back shutouts - got a 2-inning 11-0 slaughter against Cleveland, then kept the Tigers scoreless until they got back-to-back doubles to lead off the bottom of the 7th.
I thought about this too. I haven't tested it though. It's opening baseball season for our 11 year old this weekend, so unfortunately I don't think I'll have time to test this. Let me know if you get to it before I do.
I'll be out of town to go to a Twins game this weekend, so I'm not going to be able to do it, either. I'll start a postseason when I get back and give it a shot, most likely with one of the "two homers with one player in a game" or "two homers in an inning" teams, because those seem like the easiest.
Quote from: Gantry on 05/02/14, 08:10:52 AM
RBI Baseball, sewius business:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwxwUiDbRCk
I have the same reaction to that video I imagine a three year old would. I just start giggling.
Love me some this is sewius.
It's time fo some celewee!
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/02/14, 03:14:57 PM
I'll be out of town to go to a Twins game this weekend, so I'm not going to be able to do it, either. I'll start a postseason when I get back and give it a shot, most likely with one of the "two homers with one player in a game" or "two homers in an inning" teams, because those seem like the easiest.
Started a playoff series with the Braves (two homers in an inning), and managed to sit six home runs in the Wild Card Playoff... all in different innings. Three of them came with no outs in the inning, and the one in the 8th was followed by two warning track fly balls. DAMMIT.
Also, I discovered in my regular season that you do not get credit for the perfect game achievement in a slaughter, which I kind of assumed but had not confirmed (unless it HAS to be combined, like the description says; I only used one pitcher because it was a two-inning game).
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/02/14, 03:14:57 PM
I'll be out of town to go to a Twins game this weekend, so I'm not going to be able to do it, either. I'll start a postseason when I get back and give it a shot, most likely with one of the "two homers with one player in a game" or "two homers in an inning" teams, because those seem like the easiest.
Just confirmed that the RBI Challenges do not appear to work in postseason games - had three two-homer innings in Game 2 of the NLDS with the Braves, and it did not give me credit even after the game was over. I guess that means I have to play another 40 games with the Twins (which hopefully will manage to include two consecutive shutouts) before I can start getting any other teams' retro uniforms unlocked.
Man, that's kinda crappy. It would have been nice to be able to unlock jerseys that way. Hopefully they fix that in the next version.
I guess it does say "Season Mode", but if they're going to do that, they should allow for parallel seasons. I guess I could try and work around it by creating a new save on the memory unit or cloud instead of my hard drive, but I assume the unlocks are tied to the save, not to my profile, so I wouldn't actually be able to use them.
Just made my first triple play in rbi14! Wooo.
Got the achievement for homering with my pitcher over lunch, against the Brewers with Kevin Correia. Not a wallzie-esque hit, either - it was four or five rows deep into the left field stands.
I'd given up one before that, to Jeff Samardzjklbzdcflspa while trying out the Braves in a postseason, and it also was not a cheap shot. Pitchers apparently have far more power in this version.
Also, as the game continues to grow on me (partially because, with the help of constantly using the Retreat to boost my power output, I'm putting up much more offense), I'm realizing that the gameplay reminds me much more of Griffey on the SNES than RBI. Really, the only thing about it that's more RBI than Griffey is the presence of the drop pitch. The fielding, batted balls, and general pace of the game are all far more similar to Griffey than RBI.
learned that by pressing down when swinging, the ball goes much much much farther. . . . now I can win a game or two
I've noticed that the Retreat seems to provide quite a power boost, not just the trajectory boost that it does in the original. I have been using it pretty much every at-bat, and even guys like Alex Presley and Pedro Florimon are hitting some occasional dingers.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/12/14, 08:27:10 AM
I've noticed that the Retreat seems to provide quite a power boost, not just the trajectory boost that it does in the original. I have been using it pretty much every at-bat, and even guys like Alex Presley and Pedro Florimon are hitting some occasional dingers.
thanks for the retreat tip... my homeruns have gone up significant since I started using it.
So when is this coming out on the PS4? We want to plan a dee-nee RBI night after it comes out
I haven't heard a release date yet. Initially they said sometime in May. I'm not sure if that still holds true or not.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/02/14, 02:41:42 PM
I nearly got the Twins' challenge, back-to-back shutouts - got a 2-inning 11-0 slaughter against Cleveland, then kept the Tigers scoreless until they got back-to-back doubles to lead off the bottom of the 7th.
FINALLY completed my first RBI Challenge today - had a two-inning shutout slaughter against the Mariners followed up by a tense 6-0 beating of the A's. The A's didn't threaten until the last inning, when they got back-to-back one-out singles, the first of which was actually off the wall and would have triggered a substantial amount of rage if it had cleared the wall.
The Retreat has made beating the CPU a pretty regular occurrence - I think I have the Twins are on a 14 or 15-game winning streak (REALISTIC!), although I did manage to lose the All-Star game in the middle of that. I'm not quite 40 games into the 50-game season, currently 6 games up on the Royals in the Central, and they're three games ahead of the second Wild Card, so I theoretically could clinch a playoff spot within the next three or four games. I think I'm about 25 or so games from being able to start some fresh seasons and try for other RBI Challenges to get more retro jerseys.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 05/30/14, 02:14:27 PM
I'm not quite 40 games into the 50-game season, currently 6 games up on the Royals in the Central, and they're three games ahead of the second Wild Card, so I theoretically could clinch a playoff spot within the next three or four games. I think I'm about 25 or so games from being able to start some fresh seasons and try for other RBI Challenges to get more retro jerseys.
Got my winning streak up to 20 and clinched the AL Central thanks in part to a collapse by the Royals (who dropped from rivaling me for the best record in baseball to a tie for the second Wild Card in the span of about ten games). It appears that the "Make the Postseason" achievement does not trigger when you clinch a playoff spot; that must happen at the actual end of the regular season.
I also confirmed over lunch that jersey unlocks are tied to your saved game, not to your profile - selected my cloud save (which I've never used) instead of my local one, and the Twins' retro jersey was not available.
Trying to figure out which RBI Challenge(s) (http://www.rbiempire.com/jerseys.html) to try for next. The ones for striking out 8 batters in 5 innings seems to be the easiest (since you can just refuse to throw out any batter who puts the ball in play), although it's a boring set of jerseys (Jays and Rays).
Tweet from the RBI Baseball official account this morning:
QuoteThe alumni pack should be available for sale later today for iOS users. #rbi14
I responded asking for clarification on what exactly the "alumni pack" is and when/if it was coming for consoles; no response on that front yet.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/game/3524050/rbi-baseball-expands-rosters-with-new-players-old-timers/
About freaking time with the roster update.
Two new players per team is a disappointing add-on - I was hoping for something along the lines of full rosters, or (even better) original RBI teams. I suppose they wanted to be able to offer something for fans of every team, but I'd have much rather had a few full teams instead.
I'm sure they don't have an interface setup for selecting those add-on teams. They would have to code another screen that lets them sift through any add-on teams and the way this project has been going it seems like they haven't gotten that deep yet, so the low-hanging-fruit was to add players to existing teams. Lame, but I do kind of understand it. Being in software development, I constantly hear "just put a button on the page, it's simple" or "it's gotta be easy to just change the copy on that page." People don't realize how much extra crap can sometimes go into complex software, and while it seems trivial to "just add xyz" it might not always be the case.
That said, I've been let down by the whole project in that they haven't released for the PS4 yet, among a few other things. They are close though. Really close...an add-on pack with the original 10 teams would be so great...or maybe even all 24 from that year...
I have generally gotten the impression that the whole RBI '14 project was fairly thrown-together... I'm hopeful that any potential RBI '15 would have a lot more polish.
The problem with having all the teams is that the original spans two years, so if you picked a year you'd end up with the wrong versions of half the RBI teams. I think an Original 10 set is better, both because you wouldn't have to pick a year and because you could use the fudged stats that the original game used.
I agree, though we did that whole 24 team project a few years back and we had a good mix of teams that represented the two years...though yes, I'd agree easier and still satisfying to have the original 10 teams (and maybe the arcade teams)
The biggest hurdle to arcade teams is probably the fact that you'd have to track down a lot of dead guys' estates to get their rights.
I want to apologize to everyone for being MIA the last month. Once baseball started for my boy and I, I haven't had any computer time, or any free time, at home. Plus, I've been working out of town the last few weeks and haven't been at my office to keep tabs on the happenings around here.
I haven't fired up my PS3 but 1 time to play RBI with a buddy a week and a half ago and even then it was only 1 game. I beat him 3-2 as the Braves. He's a Cubs fan.
I have heard mention of the roster update. Any details? Is it just 2 more position players per team?
I'm also in the process of starting my own athletic apparel/t-shirt business. I'll keep you guys in the loop on that as well as soon as I get it off the ground. Because I'm not busy enough...
Also sorry I haven't made any time to work on the website. I really have to get those rosters updated and get another blog entry in. Not enough hours in the day.
No need to apologize for slacking on an RBI Baseball website. If that was the case I'd be one sorry mofo for the past decade...
Quote from: Johnny Tecmo on 06/10/14, 01:24:12 PM
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/game/3524050/rbi-baseball-expands-rosters-with-new-players-old-timers/
Has anyone had success downloading the "alumni pack"? I tried yesterday on my ipad and had the same issues this article talked about (i.e. a "Buy" button that does nothing).
Was just about to write and ask if anyone bought it. I wonder if it's another bench player or you have to insert him into the lineup or what.
also, no robin Yount? Suck.
When the eff is this coming out for ps4? I need a real controller!
glitch/problem has been resolved.
Jim Rice just belted two HRs for me today and Bob Stanley (What, no Schraldi?) closed out the game.
Quote from: VEGAS on 06/13/14, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: Johnny Tecmo on 06/10/14, 01:24:12 PM
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/opinion/game/3524050/rbi-baseball-expands-rosters-with-new-players-old-timers/
Has anyone had success downloading the "alumni pack"? I tried yesterday on my ipad and had the same issues this article talked about (i.e. a "Buy" button that does nothing).
See ya, crappy Ryan Ludwick! Hello Eric Davis of 1987! And fellow MLB Alumni pitcher Tom Browning has been great in middle relief. I'm just 12-16 in my 52 game Reds season on my iPad but am smacking dingers (3-5 per game lately). Even with that, it appears they upgraded the Brewers with the latest update. Played a game with my Reds and hit 6 homers but lost 14-9 as the Brew Crew had 25 hits! Damn! The game actually froze at final scoreboard and did not count! I won the replay 4-2.
Just announced today. RBI baseball 14 will be released for xbox one & ps4 next Tuesday (6/24).
Quote from: VEGAS on 06/18/14, 08:42:10 AM
Just announced today. RBI baseball 14 will be released for xbox one & ps4 next Tuesday (6/24).
$20?
I'll consider it for PS4, any other PS4 peeps here?
I'll get it as well...
Quote from: Turd on 06/18/14, 08:49:41 AM
I'll get it as well...
FYI Turd, I'm not sure is the answer to your question via text last night, I was in the midst of some grueling FIFA online pro matches and didn't notice your question until after the fact.
Quote from: Bastardo on 06/18/14, 08:43:26 AM
Quote from: VEGAS on 06/18/14, 08:42:10 AM
Just announced today. RBI baseball 14 will be released for xbox one & ps4 next Tuesday (6/24).
$20?
I'll consider it for PS4, any other PS4 peeps here?
It was $20 on 360/PS3 as well. Also, note that there's no online play, although the word is that they're "hoping" to add it into a patch this summer. No idea when to expect that, though - consoles still haven't got the roster update that iOS got a week or two ago, and it seems pretty ridiculous to wait until the baseball season is more than half over to deliver something like that.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/18/14, 09:09:33 AM
Quote from: Bastardo on 06/18/14, 08:43:26 AM
Quote from: VEGAS on 06/18/14, 08:42:10 AM
Just announced today. RBI baseball 14 will be released for xbox one & ps4 next Tuesday (6/24).
$20?
I'll consider it for PS4, any other PS4 peeps here?
It was $20 on 360/PS3 as well. Also, note that there's no online play, although the word is that they're "hoping" to add it into a patch this summer. No idea when to expect that, though - consoles still haven't got the roster update that iOS got a week or two ago, and it seems pretty ridiculous to wait until the baseball season is more than half over to deliver something like that.
Me no like.
Online multiplayer and X360/PS3 roster update confirmed for "mid-July to late July" (http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/18/5821554/rbi-baseball-14-release-date-ps4-xbox-one-online-multiplayer). They also originally claimed that the game would be out on PS4 and Xbox One in May, so take that with as big a grain of salt as necessary. I'm kinda pissed it's taking until the end of July to update rosters that were out of date a week before the season started, but I guess we'll take what we can get.
Also, it was kind of implied in the article that the Alumni Pack will be included in the console update rather than being DLC, although it's not 100% clear.
Never been a fan of mixing players from different years, so the alumni pack isn't for me unless it's full rosters...
Just got confirmation on Twitter that the Alumni Pack is paid DLC, not included in the roster update.
You guys playing any modified rules? I've always been a 1SP per game kind of guy, but wirh only one reliever, that's kind of tough.
What about something like "starter has to pitch 6 innings or more"
I like making pitching something you have to think about.
I play very little multiplayer, pretty much just with my son, and I haven't come up with any modified rules against the CPU. I generally do try to leave my starter in as long as I'm in the lead, particularly now that I've gotten the back-to-back shutouts for the Twins' alternate jersey.
Gonna be had to get that brewers one.
I've only got three games left in my season with the Twins, and after I finish the playoffs I'll be making attempts to get some more retro jerseys unlocked. I think the easiest will be the "two homers in one inning" and "two homers with one player" ones, with the "8 Ks in 5 IP" ones up there as well (since you can just refuse to record outs if guys put the ball in play).
Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/19/14, 05:10:31 PM
I've only got three games left in my season with the Twins, and after I finish the playoffs I'll be making attempts to get some more retro jerseys unlocked. I think the easiest will be the "two homers in one inning" and "two homers with one player" ones, with the "8 Ks in 5 IP" ones up there as well (since you can just refuse to record outs if guys put the ball in play).
Made it to the playoffs and played my first game, but it didn't give me the "Make it to the postseason" achievement for some reason, which I find annoying. Currently have a 1-0 lead over the Wild Card Blue Jays in the ALDS, so I'm ten wins from going for more retro jerseys.
I was able to get in a couple games against my son this weekend for my first RBI action in a while. He was the Tigers and I was the Giants. I beat him pretty good the first game. 12-1 in 8 innings. Second game he took the lead in the top of the 9th. I was up 4-1 and he rallied to go up 5-4. I loaded the bases with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th and Kung-Fu Panda ripped on oppo single to walk off 6-5.
The time is going to come when the boy finally beats me. Luckily it wasn't this weekend.
I've lost to my son once already. I tend to take it fairly easy on him - I keep the pitches in the zone and don't change speeds very often ("slurve" style, in original RBI parlance, for the most part). He was using the AL against the Astros, and I managed to give up a walk-off grand slam to Miguel Cabrera with two outs in the bottom of the 9th - I did groove the pitch for him, but he still had to hit it.
Anyone getting this for XBOX one or PS4 today? Come and jump in the RBI 2014 pile
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I picked it up last night for PS4. It plays the same but the running seems more responsive. Maybe it's just me. It was a lot easier to get out of run-downs than it seemed to be on PS3. The lighting also seemed more crisp on PS4. Not sure if that's a system thing or because I was playing on a smaller/different TV.
Sweet, I'll be picking it up soon...
Do you have MLBTS?
Quote from: RBI Empire on 06/25/14, 09:41:18 AM
I picked it up last night for PS4. It plays the same but the running seems more responsive. Maybe it's just me. It was a lot easier to get out of run-downs than it seemed to be on PS3. The lighting also seemed more crisp on PS4. Not sure if that's a system thing or because I was playing on a smaller/different TV.
Haven't seen it on another system yet, but I can see more responsive running as being possible, at least. One of my big complaints about the gameplay is that all the animations are very slow - runners take a long time coming out of slides and turning around, and fielders take FOREVER to get a tag down (so there are a lot of close plays that you think should be outs and are not).
UNRELATED: Currently leading the ALCS 3-0 over the Red Sox, with the DBacks doing the same in the NL over the Wild Card Nats. The DBacks went 26-26 in the regular season, starting really good and then dropping to .500 with a 10-game losing streak late in the year to barely hold off the Rockies (who went 9-1 during their losing streak) and Dodgers.
May be a dumb question but what is MLBTS?
MLB: The Show
Gotcha.
I bought the show back in '08 and got about 20 seven inning games into a season. Those games still took forever to finish and I'm not a sim guy so I gave up and sold it. For me nothing beats the simplicity of RBI. If we could mix this game play with the stat tracking of the show I would be in baseball video game heaven.
I'm in agreement that leaving stats out of season mode in RBI was a pretty ridiculous decision. Yeah, they're not going to be realistic, but so what? I didn't get realistic stats in Baseball Simulator 1.000, either, but I still enjoyed seeing how well my players were doing and where they stacked up with the league leaders (who had similarly cartoonish numbers).
I also lack the patience for simulation-style baseball games. I got MLB Power Pros '08 on the Wii (which is in a cartoony style but plays as a sim), and I just couldn't get into it as much as I'd hoped. I want something that I can get through a game of during my 20 minutes on the treadmill.
So I think I'm going to start a season on PS4 where I pick a player to feature and keep stats for him throughout the season. Just the basic stuff like H/AB/BB/R/RBI/XBH/etc., stuff like that. I want to be able to include video it but I've yet to find a simple way to take video on PS4 and be able to merge videos into one. I want to be able to record the ABs and put them all together in one short video per game. So each game would take about 30 seconds to watch for the viewer. Anyone have any experience with the new recording feature on PS4 and is willing to give suggestions? So far I can only upload to facebook but I don't want to flood my facebook with a bunch of 5 second videos of unorganized crap that no one wants to see.
I have gone back to the simpler games as well, but the Show is so awesome, and it plays pretty fast if you cut out the extra cut scenes. Regardless, I'll always prefer the simple stuff first.
What are you guys finding in regards to difficulty? Is the CPU tough to beat?
Quote from: RBI Empire on 06/25/14, 12:31:55 PM
So I think I'm going to start a season on PS4 where I pick a player to feature and keep stats for him throughout the season. Just the basic stuff like H/AB/BB/R/RBI/XBH/etc., stuff like that. I want to be able to include video it but I've yet to find a simple way to take video on PS4 and be able to merge videos into one. I want to be able to record the ABs and put them all together in one short video per game. So each game would take about 30 seconds to watch for the viewer. Anyone have any experience with the new recording feature on PS4 and is willing to give suggestions? So far I can only upload to facebook but I don't want to flood my facebook with a bunch of 5 second videos of unorganized crap that no one wants to see.
Hey if your interested in stat tracking, www.RBIManager.com is a great utility to track all stats related to RBI baseball. The framework we have designed is quite flexible in allowing for additional features to be added that might be of interest to any RBI players Stat keeping needs. Give RBI manager a test drive, if you have recommendations to how to improve for bettering the RBI experience for others, please feel free to provide feedback. Good or Bad and we will take much consideration in allowing the framework to evolve for every RBI Players enjoyment. :thumbsup: RBI UP!
Quote from: Turd on 06/25/14, 12:41:33 PM
What are you guys finding in regards to difficulty? Is the CPU tough to beat?
It starts out REALLY tough, while you get the hang of fielding and running the bases. If you're using the Retreat for every batter, though, you'll outslug the computer basically all the time, and you can win pretty predictably once you've gotten fielding down - I ended up going something like 43-9 with the Twins, and that was after a 4-5 start. At one point, I ripped off a >20-game winning streak, and I just made it to the World Series after sweeping both the ALDS and ALCS.
Big changes from the original:
- Only one fielder moves at a time. It's very difficult at times to figure out which guy will be assigned to the ball, particularly for hits into the 1B/2B and 3B/SS holes - it seems like it incorrectly picks the corner guy over the middle infielder far too often. Also, because of this, there is no way to cut off a throw, and the CPU is aggressive about taking an extra base if you throw in to first from the outfield.
- Holding direction+button before a runner gets to the base does NOT make him advance - you have to hit the button after he reaches base. On potential doubles, then, you're holding up and pounding X (on Xbox) to make sure the guy turns as quickly as possible. That change does not apply to fielding (even though I think it WAS that way on the original) - holding down the throw button while the ball is on the way will immediately throw the ball after it's caught. I think both behaviors are identical to how Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball on the SNES worked.
- Maybe it's just me, but fly balls seem to carry more than I anticipate given their speed. I let a TON of flies go over my outfielders' heads the first few times I played.
- As mentioned above, the tag animation is really slow. Expect a lot of "OH COME ON!" reactions on close plays.
- Direct movement of fielders - you just walk the guy to a base rather than hitting direction+button to cover a base. Not really a big deal, other than that the fielders move comparably slower than in the original when running to a base. Also, if you run off a base, another nearby fielder will cover the base for you.
BeefMaster pretty much nailed it. There is a learning curve, but once you figure out defense it becomes pretty easy. I touch on a lot of the differences in my blog series. It's 4 parts of review/comparison. If you want to check it out click on my sig and you'll find links to it there.
Quote from: RBI Empire on 06/25/14, 11:29:11 AM
...For me nothing beats the simplicity of RBI. If we could mix this game play with the stat tracking of the show I would be in baseball video game heaven.
This quote fucking completes me.
It amazes me that even in the 8-bit era, you had Tecmo Super Bowl that could track stats for a full season, yet with the power of an Xbox One, they just couldn't either A) Figure it out, or B) Give a shit.
I think B is the answer. I think this game was made for mobile and ported to console. Their FAQ covers the no player stat tracking question, so you know everybody asked them about it being in the game.
I don't think it's a "we don't give a shit." Being part of project teams for software development for 14 years, I'm guessing it went like this:
"We have a shitload of features we could put into this game. Stat tracking, online play, leagues, etc. Let's make this teh awesome!!"
"Yeah, those are great ideas, but we're never going to make everyone happy. Still, we need to put these ideas on the backlog and focus on putting out a game that stays pretty simplistic and true to the original. Hell, we were already delayed once on this just trying to accomplish that goal. Once we put this game out and we see if people are going to buy it, we'll consider those features for the second iteration or as an update down the road. We may piss off the hardcores, but we think the casual fan will love it."
I could be wrong, but I know there's a process and a lifecycle for software development, and it's not always just as simple as "some people are begging for these features so we must get them in the product right away."
I know in my own development of some of my stuff, I build the core to get it out the door and then add features as requested or as deemed necessary.
I'm not 100% defending them because there are a few things that fall short on this release, but I'm still holding out hope that they have some development sprints planned to enhance this thing while staying true to the simple spirit of things.
I think this game was REALLY rushed into production - they got the IP and scrambled to get it out by Opening Day. At least, that's my hope, and that a sequel would be a big step forward.
It might have been rushed into production, but I think they're taking the steps to make this a more complete game. Adding online play in July is only the first step, hopefully. From there they can add a bunch of other features like local and online multiplayer seasons, stat tracking, etc.
It seems they've had a good enough response that they will stick with the game for at least another year. (That's just my opinion with no factual info.) I hope they continue to build on it. There are definitely some things to clean up and if they fix those little things and add more features this game could be great.
Agreed. A more polished sequel would be awesome and would garner my $20 every year if it was featured enough. I'd definitely like to see the CPU difficulty turned up a notch too...
Quote from: Turd on 06/30/14, 11:00:24 AM
I'd definitely like to see the CPU difficulty turned up a notch too...
Either that or scale back the power of the retreat hitting.
You could just not use the retreat...
Quote from: Turd on 07/01/14, 07:54:59 AM
You could just not use the retreat...
Self control is un-American
I actually kind of like the overpowered Retreat. Without it, the outcome seems more arbitrary than I care for. One thing I always liked about classic sports games like RBI and Tecmo Bowl was that the outcome was mostly based on skill - if you played the game well, you usually won. More realistic games are often based more on the quality of your team and how well the random number generator likes you.
I am 10-2 with the Cards. 8 game win streak since reading this thread and incorporating the retreat. Loads of HRs. 2 with Adam Wainwright and I've had 2 pitchers hit HR's off of me. I'm not sure I can handle this. Pitcher homeruns?!
Live RBI14:
http://www.twitch.tv/mlbam_games
Just threw a 6 hit shutout with Cueto/Bailey. Fairly pleased with that.
So I got it figured out now.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/r-b-i-empire-gameplay
that should take you to my live stream. I'll be playing here for a little bit. Maybe a game or two.
Quote from: Reds on 07/03/14, 06:51:19 PM
Just threw a 6 hit shutout with Cueto/Bailey. Fairly pleased with that.
Nice work. Nine-inning shutouts are HARD to do. It took me about 35 games into my season before I got the back-to-back shutouts challenge with the Twins, and one of those was a two-inning slaughter. I think I only had three or four nine-inning ones throughout my season.
I've always been a move the batter up style of hitter in RBI... Does retreat work better in RBI '14?
Jerky, pressing up when hitting the ball actually tells the game engine you want to hit a grounder, and your chances of hitting it on the ground are greater...pressing back does the opposite...this has been proven by looking at the code in the original game. As for the new game, no idea if it works better, but people seem to think so...
Quote from: Turd on 07/07/14, 07:26:39 AM
Jerky, pressing up when hitting the ball actually tells the game engine you want to hit a grounder, and your chances of hitting it on the ground are greater...pressing back does the opposite...this has been proven by looking at the code in the original game. As for the new game, no idea if it works better, but people seem to think so...
It's been confirmed on their official Twitter account as well:
R.B.I. Baseball 14 @RBIGAME · Jun 7
Having trouble hitting the ball out of the park? Try holding DOWN when you swing. That will put the ball in the air! #rbi14
Also, I just completed the World Series in my season with the Twins, and the "Win the postseason without losing a game" achievement didn't trigger despite the fact that I went 11-0 in the postseason. I also didn't get the achievement for making it to the postseason. Achievements are silly, but still...
Beef, I wonder if you have to play through the actual post season game option instead of a full season. I wonder if that's their way of getting you to play the other game mode. Seems silly since it would seem harder to do it during a full season. Who knows?
Quote from: RBI Empire on 07/07/14, 02:22:34 PM
Beef, I wonder if you have to play through the actual post season game option instead of a full season. I wonder if that's their way of getting you to play the other game mode. Seems silly since it would seem harder to do it during a full season. Who knows?
Could be... I started one to test whether the RBI Challenges work in that mode (they don't), so I'm already three games into that mode. Wouldn't hurt to attempt the last few games there and see if it pops for that.
I still tend to use the advancing batter for faster runners, but for guys like Mike Napoli on the Red Sox, who are really slow power hitters that tend to hit into a lot of double plays, this worked wonders.
The crowd looks like microwaved pizza on the iphone.
We talking Tombstone, Jacks or Red Baron? Regardless, sounds like a delicious crowd
Gantry, have you had a chance to try this out yet?
Nope, the Dee-Nee crew are a bunch of old busy fucks who can't all get together for a weekend.
I'm thinking maybe Red Baron. Who looks like the most powerful hitter in this game? Edwin Encarnarcion takes the cake for me. That's a fearsome back to back duo, Batista and Encarnarcion.
I think Miguel Cabrera homered the first two times I faced him, so I am leaning toward him, but Encarnacion does hit the snot out of the ball. Chris Davis theoretically should be high on the list, but I haven't faced the Orioles enough times to see his big power displays.
On the Twins, Alex Presley is the guy who I hit the most homers with compared to how many I'd expect him to hit. Chris Parmelee has pretty decent power as well.
Note that neither of them should be on the Twins' roster - they were both waived during Spring Training, with Presley getting claimed by the Pirates and Parmelee making it through to AAA (he's back with the Twins now thanks to a series of injuries). We're at the point where I'm not positive whether the roster update should be Opening Day or All-Star Break rosters - the Twins' Opening Day roster would contain Jason Kubel, who was released, and Aaron Hicks, who was so bad that they sent him all the way down to AA.
There are inconsistencies with many teams right now, since there hasn't been a roster update, on the iphone, at least.
Davis is theoretically more powerful, but he doesn't scare me as much. The right field porch at Camden Yards is perfectly tailored for his swing, so he probably wouldn't have hit as many if he played at say, Target Field. Man, that's a terrible name for a baseball field.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 07/07/14, 02:10:36 PM
Also, I just completed the World Series in my season with the Twins, and the "Win the postseason without losing a game" achievement didn't trigger despite the fact that I went 11-0 in the postseason. I also didn't get the achievement for making it to the postseason. Achievements are silly, but still...
Decided to fire this game back up the other day and go for some of the RBI Challenges - I'd already done the Twins' while going through the season, and over the last few days I've finished the Rays (8K in 5IP), Royals (come back from 4 runs down), Reds (4 HR in one game), and just finished the Blue Jays (8K/5IP) over lunch. The achievement for 5 RBI Challenges was not triggered; apparently achievements in general are broken on my game (the last one I got was in May, for the first RBI Challenge I finished).
Also, the roster update + online play scheduled for "end of summer" never materialized. I am assuming it was abandoned and will be sending an email to ask about it, but I am guessing it will get no response.
FYI for Xbox owners: RBI '14 is half-off through Xbox Deals with Gold on both Xbox One and Xbox 360. $10 is much less egregious a cost for this game, particularly given the fact that they never delivered online play.
CONFIRMED: Online multiplayer ain't gonna happen.
Quote from: RBI 14 Support
Thank you for your inquiry. Unfortunately multiplayer and updated rosters will not be coming to R.B.I. 14 for the Xbox 360 due to technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience and value your passion for the game.
Regarding your question about achievements, we have been unsuccessful in replicating the behavior that you have reported, however, we will continue to investigate the behavior in an attempt to identify the cause.
Gah! What a craptastic little nugget of info. They freakin' dropped the ball, no pun intended.
Quote from: BeefMaster on 06/25/14, 02:06:46 PM
- As mentioned above, the tag animation is really slow. Expect a lot of "OH COME ON!" reactions on close plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNJKQiIbhzc
:thumbsup:
Griffey is one of those games I never really played much, remember once at Satori's house in high school and that's it. Does the game still hold up?
Played a TON of it in college (we had an SNES but not an NES). It holds up quite nicely, and it was one of the last baseball games with the old-school feel of NES games like RBI and Baseball Stars, until RBI '14 showed up.
Gameplay-wise, Griffey was almost as simple as RBI - two-button gameplay, same set of commands for sending/holding runners, same basic pitching setup other than the lack of a drop ball. The big difference was fielding - you only controlled one fielder at a time, and the camera was really zoomed-in. Fortunately, there was a radar in the corner that tracked the ball, the player you controlled, and the projected spot where a fly ball would drop, and it wasn't too hard to get decent at it once you figured out how to use the radar.
The game was made back in the era when games would often get either the MLB or MLBPA license, but not both, and this one just had MLB, so the only "real" player in the game was Griffey. Players were modeled on existing players and had real stats, and there was a "team editor" mode that allowed you to change their names, so you could put in the real player names if you really wanted to. The fake names often had a team theme (the Twins were classic film actors; the Mets, I think, were musicians), so it was sometimes entertaining to just leave the fake names in place.
One of the things that helped me warm to RBI '14 was to realize that it was more of a spiritual successor to Griffey than to the original RBI - the fielding, especially, was a lot more Griffey-like.
So is it good for both two and one player modes? I recall a home run derby
There is a home run derby mode, which I think always takes place in Camden Yards (the game was based on the '93 season, and that's where the All-Star game was that year).
Single-player is good - computer doesn't cheat, but it also has really competent AI, and it won't screw up in the field or run itself into outs. Unlike with RBI 1-3 (where you can take advantage of out-of-place fielders) or RBI '14 (where the Retreat makes your team way more powerful), there's no magic bullet you can use to win games, so you'll still lose occasionally even when you've figured out what you're doing.
It's a spectacular two-player game, right up there with RBI.
I played multiple seasons on that game with the cubs and tigers.
I still play it and super batter up